John McCain on Torture

Sen. McCain voraciously defended his position on torture this Sunday-on Face the Nation. He is in the middle of a fight with Dick Cheney, who wants the CIA to have an exception to McCain's principle.

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Larry Johnson says: "Unlike Dick I have spoken with three CIA operations officers in the last three months--all who have worked on terrorism at the highest levels--and not one endorses torture or believes it will help us. In fact, they believe it will hurt us on many levels...read on"

Senate Ethics Committee Clears Shelby

National Journal:

"The messages were discussed at length during a closed door session of the Senate Intelligence Committee on June 19, 2002, by Lt. Gen. Michael V. Hayden, the then-director of the National Security Agency. Shortly after the hearing concluded, CNN aired a report disclosing the two messages. The next day, both The Washington Post and USA Today published much more detailed news reports regarding the intercepts. Shelby was at the time the top Republican on the Senate Intelligence Committee...read on"

How could the Senate Ethics Committee find no wrong doing from a Senator who immediately passed on classified information to two reporters as soon as he left the meeting and soon after a report appeared on CNN? Why does it take 15 months to investigate this story when obviously there are so few players to actually investigate?

"Had the Ethics Committee probe determined that a Republican senator had leaked sensitive classified information, so soon after the indictment of I. Lewis (Scooter) Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, the finding would have had wide-ranging political ramifications, Democrat and Republican congressional staffers said in interviews."

That about explains it.

Kicking back and taking a break...

(via JC Christian) (KSL News) Police now say an argument caused a 21-year-old man to jump from a moving truck in South Jordan. Tyler Poulson was riding with his brothers last night when he became offended by one of them using profanity. Poulson, who recently returned from an LDS mission, threatened to get out of the truck if he continued.

One of the men, not thinking he would, told Poulson to. Earlier police said the car was going about 35 miles an hour when Poulson opened the door and jumped. He was pronounced dead on scene.

Senators Roberts and Rockefeller Debate

On Fox News Sunday, Senators Roberts and Rockefeller debated intelligence.

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Think Progress: Appearing on Fox New Sunday, Chris Wallace asked, "What about this question, Sen. Roberts, about whether or not-the fact is you didn’t get the same intelligence. Is that a legitimate concern?"

Roberts acknowledged: "It may be a concern to some extent."...read on

FiredogLake has a few choice words for Chris Wallace: Define Imminent: The new GOP meme, as repeated by White House marionette Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday this morning, is that "The President never said Saddam posed an imminent threat."...read on

I'm watching the Giants and Vikings in between the Sunday Talk Shows.

Ken Mehlman uses false intelligence claims

The "walking- talking point," parroted the same line that everyone saw the same information as the the administration did (false)and then cited the Silberman-Robb Commission(Josh debunked the using of this report) as evidence that the White House has been cleared of any manipulation of intelligence.

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We are still waiting for Pat Roberts to release his findings Ken. There's a lot more to discuss in this clip so go for it.

(Update): Talking Points Memo addresses the "full number of lies and half-truths that rolled out of Mehlman's mouth" in this small clip: " I know that some of my more cautious readers will blanch at my use of the "L" word. But when so many falsehoods and misleading statements are rolled atop each other, there's really no other description that fairly categorizes what the man is doing. ....read on

Josh says to pull up a chair and read a few emails.

Bush with Kilgore

Sunday Funnies (party time?)

I was sent this video and received many emails asking C&L to post it. I usually will try to post requests with as many as I received on this video. President Bush tries to help Mr. Kilgore right before the election. How did that work out?

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The video came from CanOFun