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Senator's Say Lifetime Terror Detentions 'Bad Idea'

WASHINGTON (Reuters)

"It's a bad idea. So we ought to get over it and we ought to have a very careful, constitutional look at this," Republican Sen. Richard Lugar of Indiana, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said on "Fox News Sunday."

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Sen. Carl Levin of Michigan, senior Democrat on the Armed Services Committee, cited earlier U.S. Supreme Court decisions. "There must be some modicum, some semblance of due process ... if you're going to detain people, whether it's for life or whether it's for years," Levin said, also on Fox.



Chris Wallace is usually as straight a shooter on FNC as there is. We were a little surprised to see him lie about the initial amount that the United States was offering up to the Tsunami catastrophe.

Wallace: The intial pledge which was thirty five million...

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As documented here and later by Colin Powell on MTP, The U.S. pledged four hundred thouand dollars, then fifteen million, then thirty five million and finally three hundred and fifty million. It's surprising because Mr. Wallace had all his facts together when he questioned Jan Egeland earlier in the broadcast amid his controversial remarks regarding relief help from rich western countries.



MTP 1/2: Interesting Round table discussion plus Colin Powell

Colin Powell answered many of the Tsunami questions as we figured he would, but was very evasive when Russert asked him about Iraq, the Powell doctrine and the Washington Post's report of proposed long term imprisonment for suspected terrorists.

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On the Round Table:

William Safire called James Dobson a Rolodex Ranger and a trouble maker!

Evan Thomas says Reagan would have been impeached but people thought he was senile.

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Kate O'Beirne from the National Review, talked about the reluctant republican allies for Social Security reform. A claim that hasn't really been made yet. Her statement fuels the speculation that President Bush hasn't made the argument for privatization of Social Security even among some republicans. Will this be a bigger challenge for President Bush than has been reported so far?



Lock em' up, torture em',

Long-Term Plan Sought For Terror Suspects

Administration officials are preparing long-range plans for indefinitely imprisoning suspected terrorists whom they do not want to set free or turn over to courts in the United States or other countries, according to intelligence, defense and diplomatic officials. The Pentagon and the CIA have asked the White House to decide on a more permanent approach for potentially lifetime detentions, including for hundreds of people now in military and CIA custody whom the government does not have enough evidence to charge in courts. The outcome of the review, which also involves the State Department, would also affect those expected to be captured in the course of future counterterrorism operations...read on

One approach used by the CIA has been to transfer captives it picks up abroad to third countries willing to hold them indefinitely and without public proceedings. The transfers, called "renditions," depend on arrangements between the United States and other countries, such as Egypt, Jordan and Afghanistan, that agree to have local security services hold certain terror suspects in their facilities for interrogation by CIA and foreign liaison officers. The practice has been criticized by civil liberties groups and others, who point out that some of the countries have human rights records that are criticized by the State Department in annual reports. "The whole idea has become a corruption of renditions," said one CIA officer who has been involved in the practice. "It's not rendering to justice, it's kidnapping." But top intelligence officials and other experts, including former CIA director George J. Tenet in his testimony before Congress, say renditions are an effective method of disrupting terrorist cells and persuading detainees to reveal information. "Renditions are the most effective way to hold people," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of "Inside al Qaeda: Global Network of Terror." "The threat of sending someone to one of these countries is very important. In Europe, the custodial interrogations have yielded almost nothing" because they do not use the threat of sending detainees to a country where they are likely to be tortured.

Will Alberto Gonzalez head a committee that reviews this new proposal?



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We start the New year off with a little Wing Nuttery

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Jack Burkman, a Republican strategist wants President Bush to chop the heads off of moderate republicans so Christian conservatives can rule the party! In another outburst from the Christian right, there is a fight brewing for control of the Republican party. Already CC's are unhappy with Bush. Will the moderates give way to the evangelicals?



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Rehnquist Sees Threat to Judiciary

LA Times:

WASHINGTON — Ailing Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist said today that judges must be protected from political threats, including from conservative Republicans who maintain that "judicial activists" should be impeached and removed from officeThe Constitution protects judicial independence not to benefit judges, but to promote the rule of law: Judges are expected to administer the law fairly, without regard to public reaction," the chief justice, whose future on the court is subject to wide speculation, said in his traditional year-end report on the federal courts. In his report, the chief justice did not name names, but instead spoke of his concern for the "mounting criticism of judges for engaging in what is often referred to as 'judicial activism.' " read on

Rehnquist comes out swinging against these judge bashers like Tom Delay.



Dobson sets his sights on the Senate

AMericablog - 1/1/2005 10:43:48 AM

According to The New York Times (registration required as you know), the Reverend Dr. James Dobson, President of Focus on the Family, has set his sights on the U.S. Senate. Seems the good Reverend has sent a letter to his followers about six Democratic Senators who he will defeat them if they block Bush's judicial appointments. Seems Reverend Dobson believes that he single-handedly elected Bush and defeated Tom Daschle. Now, he wants to control the Senate.

Obviously the only thing that matters to evangelical leaders is the supreme court nomination. They have made it very clear that the state of the economy, health care, gov't spending, the Iraq war, and education have no meaning to them. Only the appointment of a suitable judge. Sure seems anti-Christian to me!



ALL HAIL, CAESAR

Via Suburban Guerrilla

Via Kos, Scoop (the Australian site) has posted the raw exit polling data from Mitofsky, the pollster who refused to release the numbers. They were updated around 4 p.m. on Election Day.

Now, I'm no statistician but I looked at a least a dozen reports and they sure look like a Kerry landslide to me. (They're .pdf files - scroll down to the last question, asking for whom they voted.) Not only did people overwhelmingly say they voted for Kerry, the other questions indicated the majority of voters had a deep dissatisfaction with Bush and the way the country is headed.

Yet on Nov. 2, and only after 4 p.m., that suddenly came to a screeching halt (like the Road Runner at the edge of a cliff - meep meep!) and was followed by a rapid and radical turnaround.

No wonder Emperor Caligula thinks he can walk on water.