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ACTION ALERT: "Bipartisan" cuts to stimulus must be stopped

According to Greg Sergeant, Senators Ben Nelson and Susan Collins are conspiring to cut a whole lot of important stuff out of the stimulus bill, all in the name of "bipartisanship" and pleasing minority Republicans.

I’ve just obtained an internal Senate committee memo detailing the latest cuts being eyed by the gang of Senators being led by Dem Ben Nelson and GOPer Susan Collins. Here is what’s being eyed in the bill right now:

Total Reductions: $80 billion

Eliminations:

Head Start, Education for the Disadvantaged, School improvement, Child Nutrition, Firefighters, Transportation Security Administration, Coast Guard, Prisons, COPS Hiring, Violence Against Women, NASA, NSF, Western Area Power Administration, CDC, Food Stamps

Reductions:

Public Transit $3.4 billion, School Construction $60 billion

More info here.

I fully understand the need to compromise on certain aspects of the stimulus -- it's a HUGE bill and, as much as we hate to admit it, 46% of the country voted for the other guy. But this attempt at bipartisanship just plain stinks. The media has done a hell of a job distorting the debate, claiming that things like food stamps and unemployment benefits have nothing to do with stimulating the economy, but the facts show they're wrong.

Go here, find your Senators contact info, and make your voice heard.

Note from sitemonitor: Any further comments mentioning 9/11 on this thread are getting deleted. At this point it's flamebaiting, regardless of whether it's on topic or not. Funding firefighters is a good thing. Our own Nonny Mouse made that point, and we get that. Now stop it.

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I criticize Obama for being too moderate and centrist. This is what happens. Obama himself took two major portions out of the House version and still got an Empire State Building-sized middle finger from the GOP.

Why do we still feel the need to work with these assholes just because we don't have the Holy Grail of the 60th seat in the Senate?

and

why Al Franken just can't get his certification in MN.

Let alone $900 billion for a stimulus package. The US is insolvent, we have been a deficit debt foreign ridden nation for over 20 years.

Deficit means you are:
In the hole
Broke
Running a tab
Empty pockets
Pulling rabbit ears at your hips
Spending pocket lint
Got no cash
Living off the tit
Sponging
Gold digging
Looking for change in the furniture
Free loading
Begging
Pan Handlin
Coffers are empty
Walking or hitching a ride
So poor you can't pay attention
Selling bright ideas
Paying with your good looks
Hookin
Ho-in
All flash no cash and sellin ass
Eating wind dip and air pudding

Any questions?

No public hearings or testimony from experts yet the congress passes the greatest swindle in the history of world. They bailed and continue to bail out the Bungling and Swindling Banksters.

Yet here are numerous items that have been begging for years because we have been enriching the war profiteers. Now what do we get.

The 'Stimulus' package is a pittance compared to what the war profiteers and the Banksters have made off with.

this whole thing is still theirs to win. This economy tailspins on Obama and you will have your Republican Revolution. Bankrupted Fed, and whats left of it is privatized.

ps should have let them fucking filibuster the thing, noting is more tool like than a senator forcing himself to pontificate

"Head Start, Education for the Disadvantaged, School improvement, Child Nutrition,...School Construction $60 billion"

It would have been easier to list which parts of the Education portion got left in. What is it with Republicans and the DINOs? They've been fighting the Department of Education tooth and nail every single day since it was formed. Are they really that afraid of a well-educated electorate?

P.S. I gave up writing my senators a long time ago, since they're Hatch and Bennet. Deaf ears, and all that.

Shit, I'm stuck with McCain and Kyle.

I got sick and tired of their patronizing office staffs years ago, the pricks.

I wrote to both Sens. Kyl and McCain, seeing as I'm from AZ, over a week ago, and not a single peep back. Meanwhile, my extremely right-wing father has a letter from kyl sitting on his desk from an email he wrote the day before the letter was sent...

I guess the Reps don't really want to take Obama's stance on things and listen to the other side every once in a while, huh?

The hell with the fact that America's dying.

Give Reaganomics a chance to work for chrissake!

And yeah...

Reaganomics has been given it's chance, that's the funny thing.

The Reps don't see it. Until we have a COMPLETELY regulation-free economy and no taxes on the rich whatsoever, they'll keep telling us we haven't tried it yet...

You know what I say to them?

We haven't tried socialism yet, either! :-D

my band is playing @ 2nd St and Roosevelt at 8pm.

On the street corner. Listen for bagpipes.

But I'm in East Mesa, so it's a bit of a trip...

Please, by all means, let me know if you're ever playing a little closer to my neck of the woods!

Course, when I get a JOB (HA!), I might be able to pay for gas for going out there anyway.... lol!

arent you afraid the phoenix pd might billy club your band for useing bag pipes!

For being illegal immigrants!

If it ain't got an electric guitar, it's not from 'Murica!

/sarcasm

the cops like our pipes and drums.

They use pipes for their funerals, retirements etc.

"I guess the Reps don't really want to take Obama's stance on things and listen to the other side every once in a while, huh?"

Not interested in the slightest. Their mid-to-late 70s shift to radicalism has served them so well the last thirty years, why give up now?

to people who aren't already wealthy!

Change we can give up on!

Poor people choose to be poor!

They all have the same chance (regardless of the differences between growing up in a wealthy household and growing up in inner-city slums), so why should we give anything to them?

Anypne who doesn't fight tooth and nail to get out of the slums is just a lazy SOB!

Ok, I'm going to stop now.... I feel slightly sick...

Unfortunately, Obama seems to have forgotten that Republicans are masters at turning strengths into liabilities. Remember John Kerry - War Hero? If nothing is done to stop them by the end of 6 months Obama wil be neutralized and paralyzed. They are already throwing his "I want bipartisanship" right back at him saying "If you don't pass the Stimulus bill without all the crap we want in it, it won't be bipartisan and you will have lied about your intent."

And many people buy it.

That he is smart enough to see it, and to have something up his sleeve for dealing with it...

Like forcing a filibuster, so the Reps can go down in history as the people who didn't want to save America! :-)

I'll just bet all those firefighters in New York post 9/11 wouldn't mind having their budgets cut, after all, what do we need them for now that it's all over, right?

Oh boy.

I can assure you that the GOOPERS love their photo-ops with us!

But they undercut the "everyday heroes" (their propaganda) every chance that they get.

Because the IAFF union generally supports Dems.

just uniquely 'Murican, ain't it?"

I can't wait to move to a blue state so my boyfriend (who is to become a teacher) will actually get PAID.

Another useless, elitist job...if yer a GOPher.

In reality - overworked, underpaid and vital for the future.

Or in GOPher terminology: not profitable enough.

We figured out that if we stayed in Flagstaff, he'd MAYBE get $25K starting, and MAYBE up to $50K or so by the time he retired...

Don'tchya just LOOOOVE our legislature? Especially with new new $140M in cuts to K-12!

I know for a fact my dad voted for Pearce, that damned Nazi...

on all counts. That kinda pay sucks.

Regarding our legislature - AZ Schools used to be able to say, "Well at least we're ahead of Mississippi!"

With all of the GOPher cuts to Education, AZ now ranks #50!

GOP "family values" in action.

Amazing that all the Mormons here in Mesa are still having 9-14 kids at a time like this...

And actually, Pearce is even worse than THAT.

He actually put a bill on the legislature floor that would ban public schools from teaching anything "unAmerican"... Meaning things like the Japanese internment camps, or Vietnam, or Korea, or anything basically the GOPhers of the Bush era would take offense to...

Now I just can't figure out why AZ is ranked among the top states in terms of charter schools...? Why would anybody be pulling their kids out of our public school system to send them someplace that'll TEACH them something....?

It's time for full page ads paid by the DNC (and any leftover Obama money if that's legal) to run in the hometown newspapers of every Republican attempting to block this recovery package.

Hit them where it hurts...at home! Embarrass the hell out of them and call them out for what they are...enemies of the middle and working class.

Then, all the things lost in the bill will pass in individual spending bills over the next several months.

Call the Republican bluff.

Many of us feared that bipartisanship was not possible. Now ,we see that the Gut Our People Party along with some Blue Dogs want to wipe out parts of the bill that people who have lost or will soon lose their jobs will need. You know, those unnecessary items like food and daycare. No one needs to learn how to read or write. It just makes for an unhappy rabble who will have the sense to turn off Glenn Beck's rant of the week or Joe the Loser's dissertation defense. Susan Collins wants them all to eat cake. John McCain calls it socialist. Well I call them all thieves who are paid by us, the taxpayers, and are standing by as the country sinks. Where is compassion? How patriotic are you if you hate and revile the majority of people who make up this country? President Obama get mad. There is no smoking the peace pipe with these guys. If they aren't part of the solution, they are obstacles which need to be plowed over. Many of us are just waiting for the word to start plows' engines.

That bit you mentioned about how people don't need education...

Reminds me of the Reformation... Europe really started to pull out of the Middle Ages because of the printing press, and what it meant for the populace.

I mean, if the people can READ and interpret for themselves, why would they rely on the Catholic Church to tell them what to think and believe?

Seems to be that the GOP are promoting a similar situation here... In a cague, metaphorical sense :-)

If Obama doesn't just dig his heels in and tell the Repugs to fuck off and forget this bipartisian BS... he will fail.

but were told this is all part of Obama's grand strategy to block the GOP into a corner. Maybe he is smarter than the rest of the world, but notice that progress has only been made since he started coming out swinging, like he did yesterday.

I'd bet that if he had come out swinging from the start, he wouldn't have received zero GOP votes in the House.

Here's something that should DEFINITELY be ADDED!!!!:

http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/553.html

What? Are we living in the freakin' STONE AGE????

Somebody should clue the Prez in to the fact that Chevron is nothing more than a criminal cabal that should have this battery patent taken from them and a major investigation should be done!

Is anybody else over all this criminal shit yet???

Have you guys reached the breaking point yet????

What's it gonna take to REALLY piss everybody off?

Just askin'.

gets 300 mph

the electric version gets 125 miles between charges

its a 2 seater

instead of allowing for a tax deduction on any car....these cars should be targeted

Where you goin with that 300 mph car in your hand?
I might be missing something here, but, do you mean 300 miles per charge?

miles between charges.

Just guessing.

MPG? Key word: Hybrid (miles per gallon)

this should be a straight "jobs" bill

every part of the bill should be able to stand on its own in regards to job creation

yes health care is important....create another bill for it

head start is important....if it doesnt save or create new job...should be in an education bill

etc

the reason the repugs and blue dogs are gaining traction is that no one can defend certain aspects of the bill as job creation....and its just too big

My uncle, a teacher, used to do Head Start. It was enough to keep his family afloat, until they cut head Start again, and he had to get a second job at H&R Block.

That second job could have gone to somebody else, if Head Start had simply stayed properly funded. Then there'd be two people employed, instead of one!

Unc Joe the education part was for fixing/building/upgrading schools. Think construction. If some went to hire teachers then there is more jobs.

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Bipartisan has three definitions...

Republican definition: Our way or no way.

Democrats definition: Compromising vales, principles, and Constitutional laws.

Dictionary.com : representing, characterized by, or including members from two parties or factions

Now, when the bill was in the House, it's success was NOT supported with a bipartisan vote. Only it's demise was...
... Because seeing Americans fail is a bipartisan effort!
But Americans success, well, that's considered a partisan matter.

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Why does the Senate hate women, children, first responders, and infrastructure?

Maybe Susan Collins can explain why she hates women's issues...

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This afternoon, I called Sue Collins, D. C. Office, and as soon as I said "Hi, I have a question about cutting
the Coast Guard"...............BAM, the phone in her office went dead.

Lady Sue is taking hits on the Coast Guard cuts.

Can you believe the cuts for Firemen!
Food stamps!
Head Start!
On and on......................... Bushonomics!

Ben Nelson should take hits for the CDC cut. Remember the
Nebraska Tainted Beef Scandal?

The Senate reached a compromise on the stimulus bill. Price tag: $780 billion.

My question: Where did the other 157,000,000,000 go? What got cut and how many of us did the Democratic Party sell up the Potomac River in order to suck 2 votes out of the GOP?

{ Edited, SiteMonitor}

feinstein's page is down, figures

Her phone line is off too.

Boxer's voice mail is full and the other number I have will not answer. Assholes!!

Phone # for Boxer that works: (213) 894-5000 They say they pass along the message. Office of Senator Russ Feingold | 202/224-5323 John Kerry Office of Senator Russ Feingold | (202) 224-2742

edited. Turns your caps lock off. - Sitemonitor

it is amazing how the republicans can hold so much power seeing as both houses are controlled by the dems and a dem is in the white house. It seems the republicans are still calling the shots. How come the dems could not do this when they were the minority. The republicans are terrific politicians, if only they could actually govern.

Yep

They can govern. They can't govern well. After Reaganomics and 2 Boosh's, What's it gonna take to get them to see that their policies are bunk?

I voted for the "other guy" when Bush was in charge and I got no representation at all when they went to war without My personal consent. The republicans have had their chance and they screwed up the country. I want the ENTIRE stimulus bill. Hell, they've wasted more money on that stupid war that could have entirely rebuilt our infrastructure for the next 100 years. But clearly we couldn't do that because that would have been a good idea. "Good Ideas" are always off the table.

Additions: everything the republicans wanted

I fully understand the need to compromise on certain aspects of the stimulus -- it's a HUGE bill and, as much as we hate to admit it, 46% of the country voted for the other guy. But this attempt at bipartisanship just plain stinks. The media has done a hell of a job distorting the debate, claiming that things like food stamps and unemployment benefits have nothing to do with stimulating the economy, but the facts show they're wrong.


what kind of limbaugh crap have you been smoking? 46% voted for the other guy? Is that logical? are you that ignorant of the facts of this meltdown?
that capitulative reasoning is why Ben Nelson and Lindsay graham are winning - because you and your verbose ilk are willing to convolute your own reasoning to accomodate them.

There's a petition at education.change.org that takes less than thirty seconds to send to your senators. They'll be renegotiating into next week, so there's still time after the vote.

This was a victory for Obama and for the country. It is 780 billion. Everything doesn't have to be in this bill. The only way it could be passed was to get those 3 Republicans on board. As Spector read out, many things were reduced but they were not cut out. Given the recalcitrance of the Republicans there is realistically no other way, than appealing to the few moderate Repubs., to get anything through the Senate.

How 'bout we just cut food stamps for all registered Republicans since they're the ones who want the tax cuts. This is insane! Cutting social services at a time when the country is hauling ass in an SUV in the express lane to a depression is absolute craziness. Let's see how the Rethuglican last-century morons like it when their jobless, homeless, food-less, healthcare-less constituents start screaming to them about it. In the meantime, the registered Dems and Independents will be productive members of society because we have food to eat, jobs, homes, and healthcare...and for the Dems caving in to all these tax cuts, GET A SPINE & A SET OF BALLS...medical science can now grow you a set using your own stem cells...oh wait, on second thought, you never had any to begin with, so maybe they can grow you someone else's...if that doesn't work, let's line up all the Dems, have them drop their drawers, and give them super-sized shots of testosterone...maybe that'll work...and America, since I live in Rethuglican capital of the world, Florida, the "Redneck Riviera," no less, please help a poor liberal have her voice heard (& the voices of millions of other poor Floridians), & please sign this petition: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/equaljustice.... Thank you.

Carol Tucker, MA
Pensacola, FL
a/k/a "Redneck Riviera"
Court Reform-NOW
http://www.courtreformnow.ning.com

Nothing new here . . . in the cover of so-called "BIPARTSANSHIP" the Dems roll over again and the Repubs smuggly rant on we won!

WHEN ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS CO-CALLED CHANGE OBAMA?

Thank God someone is actually going through this bill and cutting some of the programs. I am in no way saying that most of the programs aren't needed, but they should NOT be part of this bill. Things are being added to this bill with the knowledge that it will probably be passed because of the urgency to get the stimulas bill passed. Wake up people, this county is already broke. Stop spending money we don't have and can never repay.

I support our presidents attempt to get this passed, but there is a two party system for a reason. Neither party is always right!! Lets pass the best bill we can. If not we'll have another 800 or 900 billion flushed just like the TARP money.

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