Chicago Tribune: Obama 'Privately' Supports the Public Option
By Susie Madrak Monday Oct 05, 2009 7:00am
I wish I wasn't all hoped out these days, because then maybe I could see this news as a push for the public option on its merits, an actual solution and not as a campaign of CYA for the Democratic brand, something in which anything remotely resembling a "public option" will be good enough for their purposes - i.e. convincing supporters this actually is a representative democracy.
I suppose we'll see:
WASHINGTON - -- Despite months of seeming ambivalence about creating a government health insurance plan, the Obama White House has launched an intensifying behind-the-scenes campaign to get divided Senate Democrats to take up some version of the idea in the weeks just ahead.
President Barack Obama has long advocated a so-called public option, while at the same time repeatedly expressing openness to other ways to offer consumers a potentially more affordable alternative to health plans sold by private insurers.
But now, senior administration officials are holding private meetings almost daily at the Capitol with senior Democratic staff to discuss ways to include a version of the public plan in the health care bill that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., plans to bring to the Senate floor later this month, according to senior Democratic congressional aides.
Among those regularly in the meetings are Obama's top health care adviser, Nancy-Ann DeParle, aides to Reid, and Senate finance and health committee staff, both of which developed health care bills.
At the same time, Obama has been reaching out personally to rank-and-file Senate Democrats, telephoning more than a dozen lawmakers in the last week to press the case for action.
Administration officials are also distributing talking points and employing other campaign-style devices to rally support for passing a bill this fall.
The White House initiative, unfolding largely out of public view, follows months in which the president appeared to defer to senior lawmakers on Capitol Hill as they labored to put together gargantuan health care bills.
It also marks a critical test of Obama's command of the inside game in Washington in which deals are struck behind closed doors and wavering lawmakers are cajoled and pressured into supporting major legislation.
"The challenge is to go to the (Senate) floor, hold the deal," said Steve Elmendorf, a lobbyist who was chief of staff to former House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt. But "they are more involved than people think. They have a plan and a strategy, and they know what they want to get and they work with people to get it."








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Obama'll get a "bill." He'll get to brag about a VICTORAY!
It won't do shit for the ill or injured, but it will do WONDERS for the parasites' bottom lines, and "thePrez's" ratings for a brief while, until the folks figger out they've been politely, and thoroughly, fucked...
Total bullshit!
It's a right wing rag that totally supported McCain/Palin....a Chicago Newspaper.
Isn't that the group that put lights in Wrigley?
Thanks for the insight L&L...but if dennis is still lurking, he's gonna claim it's a bastion of truth and objectivity, and that we're all really racists hypocrites who hate this country.
lNm? Shoe on you.
Dennis is really getting boring and predictable.
always say.
...'I don't kiss and tell.'
is like kissing you sister." But don't tell dennis
cause he will claim that is a defense of Roman Polanski, too.
Seems to me that it's the President's job to sign or veto the legislature passed through Congress, then execute the law if he does sign it.
After eight years of Bushco, and how and where he led this country, I want an executive in the White House and leadership in the Congress, not the other way around.
... it don't mean that the president's office isn't supposed to lead.
How about Johnson leading the US into Vietnam? Nixon leading us into bombing Cambodia? Reagan? The first Bush? There's a pattern here of Congress just passing major legislation handed them by the President. It's time for the House and Senate to show some fucking initiative of their own. And its about time we start expecting them to do so, rather than laying every last victory or defeat at the feet of the President, no matter who that President is.
government system, the president acts as the head of state. So he/she has a leadership position.
But I agree with you that the houses need to do their jobs. Had there be more people like senator Morse in both houses, neither Johnson nor Nixon would have been able to get away with what they did regarding issues like Vietnam.
The only ones doing their "job" so far is the Supreme Court. I am not implying they are doing a good job, but they are the only ones exercising their function, even if it is to perpetuate a putrid agenda IMHO.
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...because the reason Medicare is so efficient administratively is because it's a single payer system. The primary benefit of a public plan would probably not be administrative costs but rather bargaining power with providers, and to get that it would need to be very large, certainly much larger than anything currently "on the table."
But a "backdoor" option that would grow to a size that would be efficient, or could be combined with Medicare itself later, and maybe Medicaid, SCHIP, Indian Affiars now, (and maybe Tricare even much later) might work.
Once you have ~4 plans doing much the same thing, combining them will be useful, esp. for administrative costs.
that America had graduated into the knowledge economy?
What happened to that? Other then corrupt politicians, corrupt bankers, and corrupt business men exported our entire manufacturing base to other countries (like India & China) and ran up HUGE national debts.
You still think they care about us?
No really they care about us...
Without "us," they'd have to be fucking each other...
is a good way of putting it. Obama promised transparency, change and a new way of doing business. Yet, everything is just as clandestine, pay to play, sc**w the people as before. Obama "PRIVATELY" supports PO. Why isn't he publically fighting for a strong PO. That's what he campaigned on. That's what leadership is all about. Stating your position and then fighting for it to bring others around. All he has done is give vague speeches with lots of weasel room. He is looking more and more like a corporate whore just like the rest of DC. I wonder if the Democrats have an idea that they are shedding voters like a bad case of dandruff.
I believe in You!!! We can believe in it! Oh yeah!
Right?
The Week Ahead. Corporate earnings season gets underway.
This should be interesting.
In other words,
transparencyopenessbusiness as usual.The congressional leaders were particularly miffed that Steele had in late August unveiled a seniors’ “health care bill of rights” without consulting with them. The statement of health care principles, outlined in a Washington Post op-ed, began with a robust defense of Medicare that puzzled some in a party not known for its attachment to entitlements. :-o
Elected Republicans urged Steele to focus on the governors’ races in New Jersey and Virginia and other political matters, such as fundraising, rather than on attempting to establish party policy.
Steele was taken aback by the comments from Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), Senate GOP conference Chairman Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Senate GOP policy Chairman John Thune of South Dakota and grew defensive during the 10-minute discussion, according to two people in the room.
There are larger issues at hand, though, beyond a tense exchange over strategy. Since Steele took over the party earlier this year, congressional leaders and their staff have often cringed at the voluble chairman’s gaffes and rolled their eyes at his unambiguous view that he alone leads the party.
“He’s on a short leash here,” said one top House GOP leadership aide.
Is the token Steele going Rogue? ;)
As much as I dislike them... GOP leaders to Michael Steele: Back off
[ http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/278... ] ;-)
teh GOP...not so grand anymore.
Will have a robust public option.
It will not be a perfect bill. It will not address every concern of everyone.
It is a good start and FAR FAR better than anything that would come down the pike under a McCain/Palin presidency.
All the pessimists can bellyache all they want to.
It is a done deal. Obama isn't going to let you down - you all seem to do THAT (esp you Susie) all on your own no matter what the "news" is.
There's too much lame cynicism on the old blogosphere sometimes.
is often regarded as 'cynicism' by those who haven't got it." -- G.B. Shaw
Apparently some people think it makes sense to squash criticism based on reality with excuses rooted in fantasy.
Jeez.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVA9qLBViPc
... that your favorite flavor is Projectionberry?
LOL
See below.
.. as Congress.
I fully expect Congress to let people down. But, I live where southern blue dogs heel from, so I know some Dems are to the right of some Reps.
Supreme Court was the only reason I needed to not vote McCain anyway.
Sorry but you can deal in happy talking points from Obama and democrats. I'll be over here watching there actions, And their actions show that if we get anything it will be ether a rigged to never be pulled triger public option or a co-op type system hidden with the name public option that will be too weak to effect any sort of change.
And No anything but the current system is not acceptable. We need real chnage not just a piece of $%#@ new system that really hurt us all but is dressed up to look nice.
Neoatg 9:08 10/5/09
The last thing we need is another No Child Left Behind type policy. A new policy that sounds great looks great but really is just a forced set of rules that makes the current problems worse. That's what seems to be coming out of congress. A forced mandate, another round of tort reform but no real reform to prevent the insurance companies screwing us all. In fact many parts will make things worse because it will force we the people to pay not only more for a policy but more of a co-pay.
to what you say you seem to see coming from Congress.
policy. Obama actions if not naive show a continuous effort to sabotage any sort of real reform. He has shown that he is willing to give up anything and everything just to get a few GOP Votes. He is one of the ones that put all the power in the Hands of Max Profit Baucus. Sorry but Obama is just at fault for this failure in congress as the congress themselves. When the progressives in Congress started to flex there muscles it was Obama that helped the effort to try and shut them down.
Seeing as how Obama sold out his base a week after taking office, why would anyone still be holding out hope that Prez Milquetoast would actually support the Public Option in the light of day? He is a wuss and everyone, especially the REPUKES know it..
Really?? And what was he when he ordered the Navy Seals to kill the kidnappers of our U.S. ship's captain. To continue on the nautical theme, you can't turn around an aircraft carrier on a dime. The man hasn't even been in office for a year yet. Congress is full of hypocrites and people that have been paid off by the health care industry. He is trying to fight one of the largest industries we have, next to oil.
At the same time there is the economy, the largest national deficit ever....created by the Bush years, two wars, nuclear Iran, etc. I think the man must go to bed at night knowing that he is responsible for our soldiers in the wars, the unemployed, the uninsured, the crumbling schools, etc., etc. And you think he should solve all this in 8 months with a Congress that has been paid off by the health care industry, Wall Street, the Industrial Complex, and the Oil Industry????
60 million Americans just want Obama to fail. It's that simple. Country first? What a joke! They are bitter because they lost to a black guy, who Thank God, happens to be smatter that all the Republicans put together. Then again, what a fuck am I saying? That's precisely why Obama won!
Obama sold out his base the day after the primaries…
Fixed it.
Day after week after month after year after decade, the idiots still do not understand what is going to happen to this country if we are denied our basic rights yet again.
They just do not understand who they are trying to kill.
Is it anybody else's understanding that half a trillion dollars in government spending will go directly to the insurance companies?
I suppose it is to get them to do things like stop denying for pre-existing conditions and declining coverage when people are critically ill.
I hacve heard zero concessions coming from private insurers. Where there are concessions, it was because of direct financial consideration from our government.
Why not start out demanding single-payer, then strategically retreat in compromise to merely a robust public option?
Why start out secretly hoping for a watered down public option?
... is a hasty retreat.
out of the way of the guy with the razor, myself. But that is just my false HOP.
LOL...
why dust off anything other than the old cliches for a post based on a leak to the Chicago Tribune? Hell, they couldn't even play an A-game with Blagoevich.
.
What's in it for him?
LOL
condom physics, is it?
when you don't have an answer... divert, divert, divert...
LOL.
steps in to save me by declaring us hopelessly off thread. (Dammit I used "hope" in this answer.)
you misspelled 'trolling'
Anyhow, take care. Cheers.
You said "hope" you DFH!
You like Obama! You like Obama!
HA!
my errors in spelling have been exposed for all to ridicule. I am going off to kill my pathetic uneducated passive aggressive ass. Stick a pitchfork in me,
I'm done.
Put down the pitchfork and back away slowly....
.
How many times has the Whitehouse leaked Obama’s opinion on the public option? As if Obama's Opinion is the real issue. Sorry Mister Obama No one gives a damn what you Opinion is anymore. What we care about is your actions and if you ass hasn't been the classic case of naivety when it has come to healthcare reform. And that's not even the worse case it feels more and more likely that You Obama have been purposely trying to kill healthcare reform and that just sad.
I don’t know what the hell is going on anymore more and more it looks like if a bill passes it will be a Bailout and reduction of rights type bill that the democrats hope will encourage the insurance companies to treat people better. Like hoping to encourage a hungry lion from not eating you by patting him on the head.
president obama knows that health care insurance cost needs serious reform. he knows this is a matter of economic necessity. he and his staff understand this is a collective issue but that there are those that are against that political/economic philosophy. the opposition was ready for this fight way before obama was on the scene. "we the people" have been taken out of the system and replaced by special interest(s). some of this is political strategy by both sides. i feel president obama has good/correct intentions and will get the best reform possible. i feel he's revealing the right's inability to be bipartisan so not to require a super majority. having said all of that i hope that the house/senate understand beyond the special interest that the public options needs to be open to all. otherwise it will fail much to the liking of those who don't like government.
I'd like to see Obama sit back and let everyone take sides. I'd like to see this thing defeated by obstructionists or dragged out until the midterms next year. I'd like to see Obama veto any plan that is less robust than HR 676. I'd like to see marmalade trees and tangerine skies ...
National Health/Single Payer privately AND publically. The Public option is shite.
to any real, meaningful national health-care reform.
You'll all be dead and gone by the time anything happens to actually improve health CARE to any but the wealthy...
This president and his administration have proven themselves to not only be ineffective but a heck of alot weaker than anyone who voted for Obama thought so. This man talked the talk during the campaign and quickly after consolidating the vote and winning, this man was back pedaling and making excuses for all the "change" we all believed he would lead this country into. Obama, instead, has proven himself to be manipulated by the minority party into a powerless position time and time again. He is proving to have been the wrong choice, at the wrong time, with the wrong qualifications. America needed a strong leader with vision and determination; instead we got a weak capitulating ineffective orator of bovine excrement.
who was the right choice. president obama was handed the worse legacy known in politics. it's my opinion no one would be prepared to manage two mismanaged war(s)/occupations, HUGE deficit from BUSH/(r)'s, record foreclosures,financial bailout(s), automaker crisis/bailout, record UNemployment,
record bankruptcies,GiTmo,Iran debacle,N.Korea nonproliferation failure.......just to name some of the crap BUSH handed president obama. president obama's intentions may not be realized in the REAL world of compromise. something that is not appreciated by the obama opposition/HATERs is that he's trying to reduce the obvious division in this country. president obama is a clear contrast to the BUSH presidency
....he's not authoritarian. "excuses" "a lot weaker" "manipulated" "wrong choice" "ineffective orator of bovine excrement".........is over the top and doesn't fit the situation(s) he's been given.
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