Colleges Are Now Admitting More Students Who Can Pay The Full Fare
I know in the ideal Republican world, only the children of the wealthy should be able to attend college, but the rest of us are worried about the effect the economy has on everyone's else's educational options. Looks like there are good reasons to worry:
Facing fallen endowments and needier students, many colleges are looking more favorably on wealthier applicants as they make their admissions decisions this year.
Institutions that have pledged to admit students regardless of need are finding ways to increase the number of those who pay the full cost in ways that allow the colleges to maintain the claim of being need-blind — taking more students from the transfer or waiting lists, for instance, or admitting more foreign students who pay full tuition.
Private colleges that acknowledge taking financial status into account say they are even more aware of that factor this year.
“If you are a student of means or ability, or both, there has never been a better year,” said Robert A. Sevier, an enrollment consultant to colleges.
The trend does not mean colleges are cutting their financial aid budgets. In fact, most have increased those budgets this year, protecting that money even as they cut administrative salaries or require faculty members to take furloughs. But with more students applying for aid, and with those who need aid often needing more, institutions say they have to be mindful of how many scholarship students they can afford.
Colleges say they are not backing away from their desire to serve less affluent students; if anything, they say, taking more students who can afford to pay full price or close to it allows them to better afford those who cannot. But they say the inevitable result is that needier students will be shifted down to the less expensive and less prestigious institutions.
“There’s going to be a cascading of talented lower-income kids down the social hierarchy of American higher education, and some cascading up of affluent kids,” said Morton Owen Schapiro, the president of Williams College and an economist who studies higher education.
That kind of completes the Reagan revolution. Make educational opportunity available to the elite. F*ck the American Dream. Lets make sure if you are born into poverty you stay there.
But what do you expect schools to do when money runs short?
Maybe you will also see an "up-scaling" of less prestigious colleges and a "down-scaling" of elite colleges. I know I can recall all those rich kids that didn't do jack in college except spend daddy's money at the bar...
I attended The Evergreen State College in WA. I've lived here all my life. Paid my own way through thank you. That college is kinda famous for a large number of Trustifarians (rich little hippie/white boy rastas with trust funds for life). These little pukes were about the dumbest class members in any program I took. They were there because they paid full out of state tuition. I hate to say it but there's nothing dumber than your basic trustifarian. If this holds true for all the other social sub-groups of spoiled rich kids I fear that tomorrows leaders today are just gonna drag this country further towards idiotocracy.
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
i feel very fortunate to have obtained a college education. the cost of a higher education has taken a sharp rise the last 10 years. i guess it's like everything else. this country better find a way to improve the educational system for citizens or we are going to be left behind......maybe that's the plan.
I had been gone out of college. So I had to stay gone after trying to come back backfired. :(
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This is one of the best examples of this class warfare that the Republicans are screaming about. When it comes to a point that the middle class can't go to college we are regressing as a nation to a very very sad and scary point. This does nothing but hold back the less fortunate and keeping them in their position on the social ladder. Exactly what conservatives want.
What their voters can't figure out, this affects a large amount of the backwoods from from Georgia, Mississippi, Alabama, and Oklahoma to name few. Maybe their all happy, working at a filling station and living in a trailer and just don't realize that one point in time they actually had a chance to better themselves.
Ah hell, as long as you believe in Jesus and can own a rifle. If you keep education from them, this is all they'll believe in.
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If elite colleges start taking more people that can pay regardless of whether they qualify to attend that kind of school won't they, in the long run, be hurting their own reputation? If Yale only takes GW Bushes for the next few years then who would want to attend or teach at a school for privileged idiots? Better to attend a smaller state school that cares about more about higher learning than bottom lines. I went to a very small state school and no one was there that didn't really want to be there (no legacy to maintain or name to make for themselves - just learning).
They still have some wonder kids going their way. But for the most part Ivy League stopped being equivalent with academic excellence and such institutions are now little more than "connection factories" and "placement offices." Case in point: George Bush, with his undergrad @ Yale and Harvard MBA. He could barely manage reading and comprehension at anything more than a 5th grade level.
Although there are some exceptions. Princeton for the most part only accepts based on academic performance, and they will guarantee financial backing for those students that have been accepted regardless of need.
with colleges taking this attitude,
there will be more whores like paris hilton
in these institutions, who are too fucking
dumb but their families have money.
that is too sad. there are more kids
out there who can not afford the tuition,
but are far more intelligent than these
vapid oral bags of shit elite douche bags.
have become so plastic, unnatural, and Reaganized.
Plastic Surgery. . plastic money . . etc
... institutions say they have to be mindful of how many scholarship students they can afford.
of course, sports scholarships taking priority...
whether they NEED it or not!
i hate that.
this is a fine example that the college
corporations only want students they can
use and abuse.
i somewhat agree but it's a catch-22 for universities. some people would never see the inside of a university classroom if it wasn't for a sports scholarship. NOT sure many graduate. of course sports are
big business for the university system. a college education is NOT for everyone but i haven't heard many
people say i wish i didn't graduate from college. OBAMA has already mentioned that a college education
is NO longer a luxury. i also wish sports scholarships weren't a priority.
I haven't heard people say they wish they hadn't graduated, but I've heard PLENTY of people say they wish they hadn't gone in the first place. They come out saddled with debt they'll spend the rest of their lives paying off, and often with diplomas in fields that no longer have any jobs to offer. Yeah, that's a real great way to start off a future, there.
Obama may say college is no longer a luxury, but that's because he was educated at Harvard, so he naturally thinks only people who go to college can make their way in the world. Typical Harvard attitude - only the people with paper to their names are worth anything in the world.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
to keep their facade propped up that's obvious.
we got our entitlements coming get ur butts in gear.
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That's a part of the problem, creating a permanent elite educated class, and permanent uneducated class.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
great a bunch more over educated future fryer cooks for micky dees!
“If you are a student of means or ability, or both, there has never been a better year,” said Robert A. Sevier, an enrollment consultant to colleges.
Especially if you're a student of means, right? So your grades are in the shitter, as long as daddy can pony up 50k per year (and make a generous endowment pledge), you're as good as in, kid. Hey, look what having a rich daddy got Duhbya - Yale and Harvard.
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
Please. They've been charging outrageous tuition for decades now. It's just that now they're kicking out people at the middle-class level, because they want all that debt paid for upfront.
Yes, because they so need to spend all that tuition on more football stadiums.
constituent: "but i haven't heard many
people say i wish i didn't graduate from college."
Then you'll hear it from me. My B.A. is as worthless as a high-school diploma, and I could've actually had work experience in the time that I blew listening to assholes tell me why their subjects are better than other subjects. I've said it before, but college is a legalized Ponzi scheme. It might have meant something once, but they've turned it into a coffee shop book club.
That the manufacturing Jobs which have been sent overseas kills our economy..
When people could not afford or have the grades for college they could get a job in our manufacturing plants..
Now you will have to go overseas to find them... Of course foreign countries are not going to let you come in and take the jobs our country has sent to them..
This whole process in the past 8 years of sending our jobs , manufacturing plants and our economy overseas was for the purpose of destroying our country so Global Corporations could setup the World Power.
With our wealth gone , no jobs and foreign nations owning our land and resources we are nothing but renters in someone else's country which our government has sold to them..
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Just FYI:
In GA if you graduate from a GA high school with a GPA of 3.0 or higher, you can attend any public college in GA for FREE.
If you don't graduate with a 3.0, after your first year in college, if you have a 3.0, you can attend college for FREE for the remainder of your time.
Seems to me a lot of states should figure out why they cant use their lottery funds the same way GA does.
Colleges are heavily subsidized by the American public and they owe it to us tax-payers to offer middle and low-income kids a chance at a good education. Basically we own them they owe us!
If you think the playing field is ever going to be leveled in this country you are dreaming .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
Maybe fewer people will turn their noses up at trade and technical colleges, where you can learn something that will actually make you MONEY, instead of insisting on blowing their futures by getting in hock up to their ears to pay for pieces of paper that will be worth next to nothing. Our culture has gotten stuck in the rut of thinking that only desk jobs paying over $100,000 are the way to make a living, not actually making things, or working in the real world.
This financial meltdown may have the salutary effect of bringing a major slice of the population back down to actual Earth. At least, one can hope.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
With the economic climate the way it is, it's inevitable that schools would start looking at taking more students who can afford to pay. It isn't right or fair, but it's reality.
I attended college and am making a decent living writing and selling ebooks. But my college education didn't really help me learn what I needed to know. You can learn a lot by yourself by just reading books that you can get at the library or from information that you can find online
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