Greenberg: 'I Don't Feel Any Responsibility At All'
From the Big Picture's Marion Maneker, this pointed response to Uncle Hank Greenberg's congressional appearance yesterday:
There seems to be a sad pattern developing among the formerly august financial figures of the passing generation. We’ve seen Alan Greenspan and Robert Rubin twist themselves into verbal pretzels in order to deny any responsibility for the current state of the financial system. Now, Maurice “Hank” Greenberg joins the fraternity of former titans unwilling to accept that they were present at the creation of our current destruction. From today’s Wall Street Journal we have this gem:
“I don’t feel any responsibility at all” for AIG’s problems, Mr. Greenberg said in the interview. “How can I be responsible for something that occurred when I’m not there?”
Mr. Greenberg remains a major shareholder in AIG, though the value of his holdings has declined by hundreds of millions of dollars since the start of 2008. Mr. Greenberg, who also controls a company that is AIG’s largest private shareholder, played down the impact of the stock’s slide on him personally.
“Of course, I lost considerable net worth,” said Mr. Greenberg, who also heads another firm, C.V. Starr & Co. “But I’m working. My life is not materially changed.”
Nice to hear that Greenberg hasn’t been inconvenienced. And it would be comforting to accept his version of events where the only problem with AIG was the lack of his steady hand on the tiller. See, this what you get for chasing him out of office and giving the job to a back-bencher like Martin Sullivan.
But Noam Scheiber does an excellent job of explaining two facets of Greenberg’s culpability. The first is that Greenberg presided over the growth and metamorphosis of AIG-FP into the dangerous threat that it would become after he left. It was Greenberg, after all, who put the infamous Cassano in charge of the division knowing that he required exceptional oversight.
But the second line of responsibility is more indirect. Cassano went off the rails when AIG lost its triple A credit rating eventually racking up huge bets on subprime mortgages to replace the easy money he was making exploiting AIG’s ratings arbitrage. One of the reasons Cassano was able to get so far off the reservation was that AIG’s management was pre-occupied with putting out the fires created by Greenberg’s aggressive actions, the ones that led to Spitzer’s pressure for Greenberg to step down. Here’s Scheiber:
in March 2005, Greenberg resigned from AIG amid allegations of accounting improprieties. Within three weeks, AIG saw its precious triple-A credit rating downgraded. This was a body blow to AIG-FP, which relied on the rating to secure favorable terms for the contracts it signed. Many were so-called credit-default swaps (CDS)–essentially insurance for bonds that investors had purchased. The weaker its credit rating, the more AIG had to pledge in collateral to grease the deals – money it would have to fork over if the bonds suddenly depreciated. In general, the downgrade made AIG-FP less attractive to customers, who relied on the company’s credit rating as a guarantee it would pay up if the insurance were needed.
Between March, when Greenberg left AIG, and the end of 2005, Cassano’s division issued more than $40 billion in credit-default swaps (essentially insurance) for portfolios of securities backed by subprime mortgages. This was more than half of all the insurance of this type the company had on its books.
But if you really want to get into the weeds of good old Hank's legacy, you'll probably want to read this dissenting opinion from the Institutional Risk Analyst:
Our investigation suggests that by the time AIG had entered the CDS fray in a serious way more than five years ago, the firm was already doomed. No longer able to prop up its earnings using reinsurance because of growing scrutiny from state insurance regulators and federal law enforcement agencies, AIG’s foray into CDS was really the grand finale. AIG was a Ponzi scheme plain and simple, yet the Obama Administration still thinks of AIG as a real company that simply took excessive risks. No, to us what the fraud Bernard Madoff is to individual investors, AIG is to the global financial community.
IRA points out why AIG is getting such special treatment now:
Now you know why the Fed and EU officials are so terrified about an AIG liquidation, because it will result in heavy losses to or even the insolvency of banks and other corporations around the globe. Notice that while German Chancellor Angela Merkel has been posturing and throwing barbs at President Obama, French President Nicolas Sarkozy has been conciliatory toward the US.
But for the bailout of AIG, you see, President Sarkozy would have been forced to bailout SGE for a second time in two years. So long as the Fed and Treasury can subsidize AIG's mounting operating losses, the EU will be spared a financial bloodbath. But this situation is unlikely to remain stable for long with members of the Congress demanding an investigation of the past bailout, a process that can only result in bankruptcy for AIG.


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I may have rolled the snowball and pushed it down the mountain. but i wasn't still on top of the mountain when that snowball wiped out an entire city at the bottom. so you see, you can't blame me.
ummm...yes we can!
Mr. Greenberg says he is not responsible...
Mr. Liddy may say (or already might have said) he was not at AIG when every thing was going on, so he is not responsible..
AIG-FP's returns went from $737 million in 1999 to $3.2 billion in 2005. Over the past seven years, the subsidiary's 400 employees were paid a total of $3.5 billion; Cassano - AIG FP's head- himself pocketed at least $280 million in compensation..
I think things are really confusing who to blame ?? I think that's why AIG is so mess !!
Child molesters typically don't feel any responsibility for their crimes either.
a sociopath.
In fact, I have said this many times in this site: most of the American (and probably the rest of the world) business class is made of people who would, under normal conditions, be diagnosed as suffering sociopathic mental conditions.
They simply don't get it. And it is mighty naive for us to expect them to reach their inner-good guy. They are simply not there.
At this point it seems clear to me that American Psycho and Idiocracy weren't dark comedies, they were documentaries.
to point this out--and make the larger point as well. These people as a group have no conscience.
We can hate them, or reflect on the society we've become and how to manage this wide-spread sociopathy and narcissism...because it ain't going away any time soon.
we came to this CRISIS...Do not forget the repeal of Glass Steagell under bclinton....
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/04032009/pr...
It was the Gramm-Leach Bliley Act, all Thugs; House Banking Committee Chairman Jim Leach (R-IA), Senate Banking Committee Chairman Phil Gramm (R-TX) and House Commerce Committee Chairman Thomas J. Bliley Jr (R-VA).
That said, it was a veto proof majority; only 8 senators voted against it. Richard Shelby of AL (Thug, formerly a Dem) voted against it, as did 7 Democratic Senators: Barbara Boxer (CA), Richard Bryan (NV), Byron Dorgan (ND), Russell Feingold (WI), Tom Harkin (IA), Barbara Mikulski (MD) and Paul Wellstone (MN) Sen. Peter Fitzgerald (R-IL) voted 'present', while John McCain (R-AZ) did not vote.
In the house of reps, it was 57 no votes.
This is clearly a crisis brought on by both parties. In 2008 Bill Clinton said in his defense to criticism of his signing the bill when President:
Idiot. If Glass Steagall had been in place ML would not have needed to BE purchased by BofA. He could have vetoed it all day long, and it still would have passed. The big money men made sure of that.
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Seems like everyone missed an important part of this video, and that's where he talks about oversight, aka regulations. And I happen to agree with it.
It is nothing but a victimizer blaming the victim, meaning he is even lower than pig shit in my book.
Just because a thief says that you should have bought a better door than the one he just plummeted when he stole your earthly possessions... it doesn't make him any less guilty or a better person, or his advice any more valuable after the fact.
Can you please tell me how he is to blame for it again, while using rational thinking?
he was the CEO, he is responsible for his company's actions. That is why he made the big bucks. Most of the credit swap insurance happened during his tenure, his company was insuring financial "assets" which were orders of magnitude larger in obligations than AIG could legally insure. There is no way that Mr. Greenberg, as the top honcho, would have been unaware of these activities (valued in the multibillion range). This is, Mr. Greenberg sanctioned fraud under his watch.
Is that rational enough?
is the archetypal member of the failed elite. This corporatist/fascist has been showered with wealth, opportunities and position but has, when the rubber hits the road, descended into a posture of public self-loathing. Staggering. He has joined the soul-shredding cabal of tobacco company lawyers and of car company apologists and, as they did, will pass on this legacy to this family for the history books. There is a place in Dante's inferno for this scumbag of a human being.
"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.
... except for the self-loathing part.
He was just being a smug bastard, basically stating that it wasn't his fault us common people were so damn stupid as to allow the likes of him to rob us blind. Basically he took adding insult to injury a step further.
If there is a hell, I hope assholes like Mr. Greenberg have a special ring just to themselves. The old coot is about to croak anyways, I hope he stops wasting our precious oxygen sometime soon. That is about the only value added, I can think of, Mr. Greenberg could provide to the rest of the human race.
for being the people they are, the crimes they commit both legal and illegal, they and their crimes are a product of the elite MIC strata of society, they steal countries, companies and people's savingfs with nary a second thought.
Blame the politicians, the legal system, the media, the unquestioning people, the bribes and kickbacks for allowing this climate of crime. These crimes and the climate that enables is, has been warned about for decades, but nobody wants to upset the apple cart, or stop taking the sugar.
Halderman was my first. I was so naieve that I couldn't believe he could sit there with a straight face. It was astounding to me. Someone would be so good at bold faced denial in that sort of setting. What are we expecting here? People falling on their swords? Wouldn't that be great. We could have them line up, hundreds of em, on their knees, honor bound to take their own lives because they have disgraced themselves. One after the other, guts spilling out on the floor in front of them as they slowly pass on.
I like that headline "Seminal Stories"
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Some good research at Big Picture.
While some reinsurers are large, well-capitalized entities that generally avoid these pitfalls, AIG was already a troubled company when it began to write more and more of these risk-shifting transactions more than a decade ago. It is easy to promise the moon when people think that they can deliver, but because AIG and their clients saw how easy it was to fool regulators and investors, the practice grew and most regulators did absolutely nothing to curtail the practice.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/04/aig-befo...
Can everyone stop dignifying this asshole with the "Hank" nickname? The real Hank Greenburg was a hero, and to equate him with this douchebag is just wrong.
DRST
....baseball player who was big as a house and would kick the asses of any player making anti-semitic comments towards him.
...of the first great Jewish ballplayer, but Landis banned him from baseball for his alleged involvement (he was found "not guilty" in a court of law) in an auto-theft ring.
Kauff got a cup of coffee with the Highlanders in 1912, then played two years in the Federal League (Kauff was known as the Ty Cobb of the Federal League), then came back with the Giants in 1916, playing for John McGraw until banned in the 1920 season.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
I wish Cobb played today. He'd get his ass whipped every game.
Extreme in his racism, sure, but he was out of the game for 18 or 19 years before Robinson broke the color barrier.
And, honestly, he could beat the crap out of anyone in his or any other era- except, maybe, John McGraw (if you don't know much about McGraw the player, read up- he's fascinating). Cobb might have to use his bat, cleats, teeth and a gun to do it...and I have no doubt he'd use any of those.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Well at least the heartless bastard told the truth...finally. If I were one of these thieves, I'd move to another country or I would get some major security.
Befehl ist Befehl.
Sie Frieggen!
A laconic, yet comprehensive summary of the conservative philosophy.
Buy stock in tar and feathers, we could use some on Greenspan and his fellow deregulation advocates.
“I don’t feel any responsibility at all” for AIG’s problems, Mr. Greenberg said in the interview. “How can I be responsible for something that occurred when I’m not there?”
We call that the Osama Bin Laden defense.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
and his spawn, Jeffrey and Evan, who learned well at their father's knee, have been dithering with other people's money and shirking responsibility for several decades. All of them have had 'problems' following the rules, and if Spitzer hadn't been brought down, would likely have been investigated and maybe had actions brought against them.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
was not Mr. "Me" Joe Blow S. N his Mornin clan. Remember red sky in the morning?...:)
Bora Odontool, you do know the Federal reserve opened our wallet/purse initially, prior to Paulson's pleadings and the TARP/Bail-out talks?
Somewhat of an "Anti-climax"... OK Mikeeeeee
PS. Corporations and the like will often hire/consult the "Crooks" that were able to infiltrate/exploit their operations in hopes of reinforcing their firewalls to reduce their vulnerabilities.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
...and just answered every question with "So what?"
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