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Holiday Weekend News Dump: NSA To Monitor Private Networks

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I've been following this issue for a while and was pretty surprised to conclude that the government doesn't have much choice. The way data travels means the entire country's far too vulnerable to cyberattacks, and they don't really have many effective options that don't to some degree compromise our privacy. The question is, who can we trust with that kind of power? We need a robust public debate over that very issue, but since they dumped this on the last day before a three-day weekend, I'm guessing not so much:

The Obama administration will proceed with a Bush-era plan to use National Security Agency assistance in screening government computer traffic on private-sector networks, with AT&T as the likely test site, according to three current and former government officials.

President Obama said in May that government efforts to protect computer systems from attack would not involve "monitoring private sector networks or Internet traffic" and Department of Homeland Security officials say that the new program will only scrutinize data going to or from government systems.

But the program has provoked debate within DHS, the current and former officials said, because of uncertainty over whether private data can be shielded from unauthorized scrutiny, how much of a role NSA should play and whether the agency's involvement in warrantless wiretapping under the Bush administration would draw controversy.

[...] Under a classified pilot program approved during the Bush administration, NSA data and hardware would be used to protect the networks of some civilian government agencies. Part of an initiative known as Einstein 3, the pilot called for telecommunications companies to route the Internet traffic of civilian government agencies through a monitoring box that would search for and block malicious computer codes.

AT&T, the world's largest telecommunications firm, was the Bush administration's choice to participate in the test, which has been delayed for months as the Obama administration determines what elements of the Bush plan to preserve, former government officials said. The pilot was to have been launched in February.

"To be clear, Einstein 3 development is proceeding," DHS spokeswoman Amy Kudwa said. "We are moving forward in a way that protects privacy and civil liberties."

[...] The program is the most controversial element of the $17 billion cybersecurity initiative that the Bush administration launched in January 2008. Einstein 3 is crucial, advocates say, in an era in which hackers have compromised computer systems at the Commerce and State departments, and have siphoned off sensitive military jet data from a defense contractor.



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It's quite easy to follow the law when you're immune from the consequences.

Everything is legal.

Obama will be the third term of Bush Jr..

Citizens will no longer have their freedom , rights or say into what this industrial-military commplex says or does..

I believe that this question has already been answered in the previous 8 years.

If you remember what was said about once a president of elected official gains or takes more power / control ,,, it is never given back but increased in their capability / powers..

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Palin resigns as Governor of Alaska!

Politico says she won't seek re-election. Fox says she is resigning in 2 weeks, MSNBC says she will resign in several weeks.

She steps down next week and gives control to Lt. gov

She quits!!

Palin said she was transferring authority to Lt. Gov. Sean Parnell, who will be sworn in at the Governor's Picnic on July 25.

From Huffpo...

Palin's brother, Chuck Heath, told Fox News he thought her resignation was due to the negativity from the media. According to Heath, the governor was unable to be affective while she was constantly having to defend herself against ethics complaints and the media.

You betcha!

there wouldn't be so darn many complaints, yew betcha.

Or, maybe she's preggers again.??

Did i hear her say something about playing basketball? I don't know, I couldn't decipher anything on that "speech" she gave.

It has something to do with a criminal investigation.... But you know how the stories fly when something happens.

And hope that you can salvage your political career.

MAKE SOME MORE POPCORN!!

I'm beginning to picture a world in which NOTHING is private.

Our computers basically store our thoughts and memories, like our brain. Increasingly, younger people are posting the contents of their brains on the internet without much reservation (ie facebook, twitter). If we have no expectation of privacy at all, which will it change more; our behavior or our tolerance for thoughts which were once taboo?

Not making an argument here, just thinking.

n/t

... learn about it, use it, embrace it.

expectations of having any privacy. Every government institution, corporation, bank and insurance company has your life history on file and shares it with any other one of those entities that asks. I'd also be wiling to be that political websites and blogs are monitored now.

Of course, your thoughts can be kept private - as long as you don't share them with ANYONE.

It happening.... Look around the only privacy is for the Global Empire and the elected officials which have taken it...

Obama stated that he was going to have an open and transparent government but like all his other important promises he made to me and your when asking for our voted , he has "CHANGED" but it has been his words.

Looks as if you have to make deals with the Global Empire , the industrial-military complex and Israel to be elected to any office..

See what they did and how they treated Kucinich in the democrat primary election and after it was over for him...

His actions / words if you hear it , is only on the internet if anyone if able to hear his words....

Can you just imagine what would happen to this country if Kucinich would have been elected...

This global Empire and military-industrial complex plus our elected officials can never let this happen..

The door has been closed to everyone except the elite and famous in this country..

of those dreaded terrorist cyberattacks.......hahahahaha....Hollywood's influence on the world! Of course terrorists would like nothing better, and of course spend every waking moment, perfecting those computer programs whilst running from Predator drones and living in areas that they share living quarters with farm animals.

"Mohammed, looking at your goat Ibrahim, gives me an idea on a trojan computer virus we can send to those infidel American military computers."

Mostly true too. Thanks for the laugh!

BS from Obama now that we hear from Bush's previous 8 years of lies...

What does it take to make us mad enough to act against this dictatorship which or coup which has taken control of our government..

Iran had the ba... to demonstration against a supposedly voting fraud and yet we let two happen and the take over of our constitution , freedom , rights , democracy while transferring our economy to this Global Empire and the rest of the world which is in partnership with the corporations in our country..

They know we have lost our will and will only bitch on the internet and now that will be censored...

How will you know if a comment has been posted by a real live person or a military intelligent personal with their BS and propaganda..

You will also never know what was censored from being posted on the web sites if deleted and controlled by BIG Brother...

Where or what happen to our democrat party!!! It is now the party of republican rejects from the extreme right wing republicans and it makes it a win - win for this Global and military empire...

you can forget about.

only so many NSA analysts to inspect and oversee all this traffic, and that the little folks' petty crimes and foibles won't attract attention of an over-worked agency.

I don't trust anybody with that kind of power.

Any agency with that power will certainly abuse it, either systematically or idiosyncratically, within its ranks.

Power corrupts, institutions no less than people.

And besides, if you've got nothing to hide, what are you afraid of? Right? [/snark

... it turns out that their beloved capitalism is also biting them in the ass in this one. Since their salaries are really crappy vs. private sector, the analyst they hire are rather "mediocre"

Plus the citizenship requirement for NSA positions means sometimes they have to scrap the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hire people with advanced science/engineering degrees.

How you like them MBAs now bitches, LOL?

Everyone is going to learn how to encrypt.

;-)

Are learning how it feels to live in third world living conditions..

The only difference is they have the ba... to demonstrate when they get feed up..

Tell me what do you see any hints of our constitution in action..

Our voices are censored and arrogantly laughed at by our own elected officials.

The Panopticon, devised by Bentham in the late 18th Century, was penal technology, designed to let authorities (guards) observe prisoners without the prisoners knowing ever whether or not they were being observed.

This is psychological captivity along with physical restraint. And that's why they do it...

We are going to be psychologically imprisoned!

Just think of all the terrorist machinations that will be thwarted! Think how super extra safe everyone will be! They're saving the shit out of us!

so that evil furigners don't hate us for them...

that we hate ourselves for our freedoms. We certainly don't seem to mind handing them over.

I didn't really mean that. Is it too late to encrypt that message?

both present two faces of the same somewhat "authoritarian" coin.

The GOP subscribes to the MO which is closer to the view presented by Orwell in his 1984 dystopia. People are enslaved by reduction of freedom and choice, thus the GOP affinity for police state-like policies. Their projection (the GOP) in this respect is doubleplusgood, which is why it is always a hoot to hear Beck et al bitch and moan about our "freedoms" when they were silent during the 8 years of rape on freedom conducted by the Bush/Cheney cabal.

Whereas the Dems seem to follow an MO closer to the Brave New World described by Huxley. Where people are enslave by things supposedly positive. That is why we end up in a somewhat "positive" slavery to things like debt.

Either way we're a bit screwed. But that has always been the case during human history. The people at the top rule, the people at the bottom are spendable, rinse repeat. Anyone thinking it has been any different any other time is simply fooling themselves.

Time to evolve, I say....

)O(

Either way we're a bit screwed. But that has always been the case during human history. The people at the top rule, the people at the bottom are spendable...
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Don'tcha mean expendable?

You betcha!

The NSA can go fuck itself. This level of scrutiny is necessary because? WTH? Even the most callous cyber terrorist is going advertise to their terror friends that they're going to send a worm attachment to everyone on Outlook that's going to take out NORAD? lol.

if the terrorists want to take out NORAD, all they have to do is call DICK Cheney - and he'll do it for 'em !!! Worked on 9/11.

like we all do.

Nobody should be trusted with this information.

Everyone should use encryption (www.gnupg.org) so that encrypted streams cannot be singled out. Encrypted internet transmissions still contain info on the source and recipient, which doesn't help much in the case of a country like Iran that could just arrest anyone using encryption despite what the data is, but if we get use to using secure connections then the traffic will not stick out like a sore thumb.

Oh, and what anti-virus are you using? Norton or McAfee? Better dump them for a foreign made anti-virus, the US based ones have back doors for intelligence agencies. Here's some info on this: http://www.infiltrated.net/cipav.pimp

And one last thing...I'm pretty disappointed over this move by Obama, not that I didn't expect to be disappointed by him at all, but I hope these kinds of moves are not quickly forgotten by the left.

at the end of July.

OMG

Palin's quitting!!!

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OK, there's plenty of smoke here for there to be a fire. She resigns on the Friday before the 4th of July?

Did somebody find those birth certificates? :)

Talk about a news dump!

wil;l Alaskans be dancing in the streets?

in office to begin with, and almost re-elected Ted Stevens even after he had been indicted... I am not holding a large portion of the population of Alaska in a high regard when it comes to their cognitive capabilities.

)O(

Fri, 07/03/2009 - 13:03 — ron
wil;l Alaskans be dancing in the streets?
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No

There afraid it'll look like they're having sex.

Fri, 07/03/2009 - 13:03 — ron
wil;l Alaskans be dancing in the streets?
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Why not?

It looks like my great great great great uncle, William Seward, is breakdancing in his grave.

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"I'm Dick Cheney, and I approve of this snooping"


Damn!

Like governor sanford?

Obama will be the third term of Bush Jr..

Citizens will no longer have their freedom , rights or say into what this industrial-military commplex says or does..

Bush's statements that the constitution was nothing but a G..D... piece of paper and this country could be run easily by a dictator has come true..

Einstein 3, the pilot called for telecommunications companies to route the Internet traffic of civilian government agencies through a monitoring

What is a civilian government agency?

Was ask and I would have told them where to get porn.

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