How Insulting! They Lied to Us When They Said Bailed-Out Banks Were Healthy
By Susie Madrak Tuesday Oct 06, 2009 11:00amOops, just kidding! Just think, if they'd actually admitted the banks were in deep trouble, and that their assets weren't worth a dime, the crisis might have bottomed out a lot sooner - and the banks wouldn't have been able to use TARP funds to buy up their competitors!
Senior U.S. officials deliberately misled the American people about the health of banks receiving huge government cash infusions last year, according to a report released today from the Treasury Department TARP watchdog.
The officials believed they were telling noble lies. The idea was that confidence needed to be restored and panic stemmed, even if this meant misleading the public about the actual health of our financial institutions.
Of course, this backfired. The government and the bailout lost public credibility when the financial crisis deepened, according to TARP watchdog Neil Barofsky's report.
Worse, the lies may have made the crisis worse by creating false expectations that the bailed out banks would be able to increase lending. Businesses and individuals planning to borrow would have discovered that their projects were impossible and their savings inadequate as banking lending continued to fall.
Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke that the $125 billion injection into nine banks in October 2008 was a program for "healthy" institutions. But privately senior officials believed several of those firms were less than healthy. Hank Paulson himself believed one of those institutions might fail.
"By stating that healthy' institutions would be able to increase overall lending, Treasury may have created unrealistic expectations about the institutions' condition and their ability to increase lending," the report said.








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I believe the phrase you seek is 'pounding sand in a rathole.'
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I'm just glad Congress never "PRIVATIZED SOCIAL SECURITY" savings.
Just imagine THAT horror about NOW!!!!!!!!!
Proof the G(no)P cares NOT for The People...
... Just the "PROFITS". Greed is an ugly thing.
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... Henry bin Paulson and Ayman al-Bernanke for a reason.
The gov't should take responsibility for the banking economy, because clearly the greedy douchebags running the show are incapable. gov't take over = nonprofit. No profit motive, no need to worry about return, thusly the ability to direct the economy out of the tailspin its in.
Once things are stabilised, they can re-privatise them, but under intensive regulation equal to that of the Fed directly lending.
With the gov't running banking, there would be no problem with CDOs and similar idiotic propositions. Need a loan? go to the Fed, make your case. If it makes sense, bingo - loan. No worry about if the "bank has money or not" to lend, as it's the gov't - they can print more of it at will.
Socialism works.
the Federal Government...not the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank.
ALL banks should be nationalized permanently.
The Fed needs to be audited first, then, if it is an honest audit I predict that the American People will DEMAND it be dissolved.
Google "The Money Masters" Part 1 and 2 some evening and get an education on the TRUE history of money and the TRUTH about The Federal Reserve Act and how it came to be passed in Congress.
We are being screwed royally right now...but don't take my word for it. Watch "The Money Masters".
Following up on the Robert Fisk bombshell The demise of the dollar here
I commented yesterday here
Following up (it's gone viral) is the Zero Master (now with servers reportedly hidden in Lichtenstein beyond the reach of even the most zealous of Government Sachs lawyers) here
The Max Kaiser (my anti-hero) video interview with Russia Today is great. Direct YouTube link here
I’ve long held that the timing of the 1st Gulf War was to stop Sadaam from switching Iraq’s oil reserve currency from the Dollar to the Euro. That would have had a domino effect on the collapse of our currency’s hegemony.
That collapse is occurring now – as Russia, China, Iran and others begin switching their reserve currencies.
The Euro was established in 1992 two years after the 1st Gulf War.
As sinister as the reasons were there, that was not it.
Saddam Hussein was promising such a change in 2000 which contributed, can there be much doubt, to his demise.
My mistake - that was Nov of 2000. As I understand it Sadaam was trying to get OPEC off the Dollar as well at the time.
More from the Zero Master
Jane Tavakoli here
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Janet Tavakoli at Naked Capitalism here. See the video with Max Kaiser part 1 - part 2
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Damien Hoffman here - original here
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Counter argument, Russia is broke, China's currency is non convertible, the Euro is a mess, what other Arab currency and was anyone talking about the Brazilian Real anyway:
Nic Lenoir here
Haven't y'all heard? It's all Obama's fault no one can find a job.
Eliot Spitzer wrote:
The Obama administration, which has spent much of the past year bailing out banks and protecting the markets, has done shockingly little to help the middle class that has borne the brunt of the financial meltdown. Two acts are particularly revealing. First, the administration failed to go to the mat to give judges the power to reform mortgages in the bankruptcy context. The administration barely winced as the Senate caved to the banks on this critical issue, risking no political capital to protect one of the few reforms that could have totally transformed the mortgage crisis. As the foreclosure wave continues, and as adjustable-rate mortgages hit reset points that are going to cause havoc for millions of additional families, this failure of political leadership by the administration stands as one of the early warning signs that things were amiss.
The second act is the recent—equally difficult to understand—concession to the banks, allowing them not to be required to offer what are called "plain vanilla" mortgages and other products to consumers. These products are simpler, more understandable, less ridden with fees, and less prone to long-term risk than most of what banks try to sell consumers on a regular basis. These are the very products consumers need.
Trillions of dollars of taxpayer infusions—direct cash, loan guarantees, capital purchases, policies to keep banks' cost of capital at virtually zero—have kept the banks afloat. It is amazing that the administration didn't leverage these infusions to negotiate these two simple policies that would have made banking more sensible for the middle-class Americans whose tax dollars have bailed out the banks.
Read entire article: http://www.slate.com/toolbar.aspx?action=prin...
Obama is DLC repuke-lite all the way.
How hard would it have been for him to say to the banksters: "you are gonna sign here, or not a penny will you get!" They would have given the president anything he wanted to stay out of hock. Instead, he gave away the farm for a bag of quarters.
Same thing with his dispicable give-away to the pharma creeps. 80 billion over ten years in a multi-trillion dollar industry. Well hot damn Gomer, what a freakin' deal! You can negotitate for me anytime!
Yuk yuk yuk......
The only thing he managed to passed was a watered-down, half-ass stimulus full of useless taxcuts. With just enough stimulus to keep the criminals on Wall Street happy, but next to nothing to benefit the other 95% of us.
This guy is an obvious sellout, and I will never vote for his useless ass again. I hope Howard Dean, or some other real democrat primaries him.
I await the taunts and insults.
another "birthawakening" of a brand new ..."liberal teabagger"?
Don't worry "it's ok to not like Obama even though he's black...
(just keep saying to yourself), I'm good enough, smart enough and gosh darn it.......people will still like me!
No you can't. I voted for what he ran on, not on his post election sell-out.
I would rather have my eyebrows trimmed with a weed wacker, than be considered a birther or gasp, puke......a freakin' teabagger.
I went to an Obama "Organizing for America" meeting and because I was raising concerns about the way Obama and the Dems are crafting health care legislation, at end of the meeting two very nasty men came over to me and said, "TEABAGGER!!! You just came here to disrupt when we want to organize to have Obama re-elected in 2012!!"
I tried to tell them that I worked for Obama and gave him lots on money etc. and they called me a liar.
Of course I had no proof.
Then the other day I was cleaning up my incoming text messages on my cell and sure enough there were all the texts from the campaign saying, "WE DID IT!!!" on Election Night.
I shed tears and popped the champagne along with everybody else!
So, I saved them and next time I'll be prepared to shut them up.
Those who support Obama and the Democratic Party and want NO QUESTIONS ASKED are way too thin skinned IMHO.
I'm not down for blindly supporting ANYONE who I feel is not acting in my interests, my families interests or the interests of average, ordinary working class Americans.
The day Senator Obama cast his vote to immunize the Corporations that followed the orders to warrantlessly wiretap Americans in violation of the Constitution and in contravention to FISA, I knew then who I was not casting a vote for.
Oh, get the hell out of here, both of you.Like you have any idea the mess that is this country. You got to play ball at this stage to get the economy back on track. Anything else and there is going to be great depression #2 staring us in the face. This country was on the complete brink of complete and utter melt-down brought on over the last few decades or so and you two are bitching cause the Obama hasn't changed the whole government yet. Put a cork in it and make your decision on who you're going to vote for in about 3 years. In the meantime, quit complaining.
Oh this is too funny ..........
... and on...
and had that same "deer in the headlights" look that he had when Andy Card whispered to him that the second WTC building had been hit by a plane?
That was the day that "Hank" Paulson handed Bush the three page draft legislation he and Geithner and Bernanke had "cooked up" telling Bush that the Treasury would have to be ROBBED right away or else there would be a catastrophic collapse of the banking system, blah, blah, blah....
This was nothing more than Wall Street performing a high-tech robbery of the American taxpayers.
And even some of the best Democrats let them get away with it.
Remember Rep. Brad Sherman of California having the press conference announcing that "martial law had been threatened if the Congress didn't go along to get along with the "law"?
Remember the SECRET SESSION Congress had around April of 2008 that Rep. Kucinich refused to attend? Something tells me that the agenda of that little secret soiree was that our economy was about to tank. We'll probably never know...although we should.
After all. They are ALL our SERVANTS.
Right?
Right??!!
What the banks have learned is that if you wreck your bank, and incidentally bring down the economy in the process, you can just send your lobbyists to Congress and the White House with empty bags and ask to have them filled up with money. The lesson is that Congress will say yes.
The politicians and the media can be counted on running to protect the banks in their hour of need. While tens of millions of people losing their jobs or their homes is just an unfortunate aspect of the modern economy, the collapse of Citigroup, Goldman Sachs, or Bank of America is a tragedy that our elites just can't fathom.
The absolute one thing these institutions fear is that the people rise up, join together, and take them down. It is time to declare these institutions Public Enemy #1.
... it seems pretty low tech to me.
Still a robbery though ;-)
It was straight to the point:
Page 1: Give us $750,000,000,000 immediately.
Page 2: Don't ask any questions.
Page 3: Dick Cheney says fuck you!
It was just a case of doing a little "wire transfer".
Just a few little numerical megapixels transfered from the U.S. Treasury......to the banks.
Just one little button pushed.
How con-veeeeeeeen-ient!!!!!!
... at some point, people need to realize that our whole economic (and by proxy society) system is based on just an illusion. Because, what really is wealth?
Our “economy” wasn’t about to tank – our “financial stability” was. The banks have been walking toward a precipice for 30 years. Two years ago, they charged (pun intended). The gift that was given by Paulson didn’t stop the charge though. It only moved the precipice back a few yards. The banking industry is still moving in the direction of our demise.
It was fully expected when Bush wanted to hand them the full $780 billion based on a three page promise to be on the up and up.
"No really, we'll spend it wisely and account for every dime"
(same old song and dance my friends)
Oh yeah, they deliver friggen sharks with lasers on their heads and flying cars ASAP!
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH2nQHPs4aA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcOZ6xFxJqg
Well, here's one back at ya:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu_moia-oVI
Wouldn't earworm be a great name for a rock band?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG3PnQ3tgzY
Wall Street gets away with more and more dirty tricks. Where the hell is the outrage against Paulson and his cronies? Where are the populist cries for fairness for the average Joe? I guess they're too busy trying to destroy the careers of African-American and gay administration employee's.
To Glenn Beck, Wall Street and Health Insurance companies need the freedom to pillage taxpayer's so corporations can fight the socialist-fascists who have illegally orchestrated a communist Muslim takeover of the White House, which by the way is setting up FEMA concentration camps to imprison gun owners and tea-bag fetishists.
Keep your eye on the prize Glenn, way to keep your eye on the ball!
to stop them from failing.
It was always about the bank robbers cleaning out what was left in the vault even as they could hear the sirens closing in on them.
Or, the foxes were finishing off the last of the hens in the chicken house and then wanting to take the ones they were too full to eat to enjoy later.
The thieves couldn't quite clean all the cash out before it was too late, so they arranged to take the rest under the table.
"When there's blood in the streets, there's money to be made."
Come on down and let us show you our large selection of new and used Pitchforks -- especially design for that "Bankster" you've been thinking about skewering!
Remember we're open everyday that Wall Street is open. Let us find one to fit your needs!
Don't you vet your ad's before they go up?
Only to ensure that the advertiser is able to pay.
It just took the perfect storm of bush/chenny and two stolen elections to give them the power to do it! WE really need to clean out washington. It is nothing more them an open door prison. Filled with criminals that come and go as they please, screwing us as they please.
republicanism is a mental illness!
I blame ACORN.
I think all of you better calm down and not worry about this.
You might get sick.
I believe that the bailout as well as the near collapse of the economy has something to do with the US presence in Afghanastan and Heroin production in that country. Sibel Edmonds made the point that a number of large financial instutions were laundering drug money for those that are behind it. Those same companies had to cover it up some way.
I believe it also ties in with some of the methods that those banks used to "show profit" even though we now know the were broke. The Heroin production in Afghanastan in July of 2001(just before the invasion) was non existent. Within 2 years there were 150,000 acres of poppys. It happened in the 80's as well. Remember the Savings and Loan scandal. It seems that every time the US is in Afghanastan a shit load of money goes missing at some financial level and there's a bailout. Not a coincidence in my opinion.
I am truly amazed at the ability of our elected officials to blow so MANY corporate contributors at the same time.
I mean...from the sheer perspective of time it's impossible. They have to be taking it up the ass at the same time.
The "Real" Economy Is Dying: Q4 "Going to Be a Bloodbath," Whalen Says
Watch Video -
http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/...
"Investors should think about this because the fourth quarter in the banking industry is going to be a bloodbath," says Whalen, who believes smaller and regional banks like Hudson City Bancorp may come into favor vs. larger peers, which have dramatically outperformed since the March lows.
"When you see the markets rallying when the real economy is shrinking that tells you this [recovery] is not going to be very enduring," Whalen says.
In this regard, Whalen finds himself in philosophical agreement with Nouriel Roubini, George Soros and Meredith Whitney, among other "prophets of the apocalypse" who've once again been raising red flags in recent days.
"When you see the markets rallying when the real economy is shrinking that tells you this [recovery] is not going to be very enduring," Whalen says.
Words to live by.
Well duh?
It just means they found some more money to steal somewhere. Apparently they didn't get every last dime yet.
Personally, everyone I know is still trying to recover from the last recession, seeings how every penny of the so-called Bush economic expansion (2003-2006) went to the top 5%.
That every last one of you sounds like an "end the Fed teabagger!!!(if you think banksters are the problem)
...and how about a big cheer for Ron Paul and all the house members and senators who have signed on?
We need to audit everything as a matter of fact!
(a starter list) of "things to audit"
The Fed
The Treasury
The IRS
The pentagon
all 500+ members of Congress
Goldman Sachs
Blackwater.....................
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.
Ron Paul has more cracks in his pot than the day has hours.
I want to replace Capitalism, not tinker with it.
...is tyranny. (total control)
Pray tell…
How about democracy for a start.
Capitalism was invented far more recently than democracy, and indeed the later is a continuing struggle.
Democracy is the necessary means for establishing the economic system.
The modern instrument of Capitalism is the Corporation, it is a totalitarian entity.
The Corporations have captured our government and left only the thinnest veneer of democracy. A frighteningly week veneer.
We have wealth inequality which is unprecedented.
So point me in the direction of where justice is to be found today.
I see very little.
I want to replace the totalitarianism of the Corporation with the vested will of the people. To create an economy at peace with the people of the earth and with the earth itself.
It will involve taming greed.
...to some degree. (things are definitely not just)
I guess most of my problem is that Corporations rule our govt already and nationalising everything would be just the fox in the henhouse thing...
step one (towards justice) is regaining control of our govt!
(I know we can agree on that)
from the foxen.
Oh, noes!
...of our govt would be "getting the henhouse back!
consist on nationalizing those business which are too big to fail and which are controlling the government.
they will prevent the government from nationalizing.
The point is that nationalization is part of the process of regaining control. Other countries have done it before us.
my point!
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ain't gonna happen. this debate was the good bank vs bad bank debate, also the Swedish solution. Had we had effective leaders, they would have used existing anti-competition law to transfer the good assets of fragile banks to new banks and then sold shares in the new bank to the market to return them to private control.
the old banks with the bad assets would lose their bank charters, and sit on bad assets of unknown value until those assets mature or die. effectively the shareholders are destroyed and the bondholders get cents on the dollar.
that would be a fair balance of capitalism and nationalizing. but we don't have that here. we have mercantilism. it's finders keepers losers weepers. they found fake money in the deep pockets of government and taxpayers, and rode off into the sunset. the people who set this up are largely all gone or free in clear.
... my point was that in order to have a real regain of control, there should have been a nationalization of these banks which were pretty much blackmailing the government last year.
there are a few n-words which send the typical libertarian into overdrive, nationalization being one of them.
that's a lack of imagination to say the only thing blah blah blah...
parecon.
Paint with a broad brush much? If the teabaggers understood what the cause and effect of this whole financial state of economy, then you might have a point. Instead they have railed against health care reform, put signs up depicting Obama as a socialist, communist, and many other outrageous charges. I do not relate to their calls for government out of everything mantra and assault on entitlement programs. Further, I resent the fact to being compared to a teabagger just because I am in support of auditing the FED.
Teabaggers are not all republicans and that (you) are the one with the big paint brush!
(plenty of liberal teabaggers)
... you are one of those new and improved "independent" conservatives. Eh?
"Plenty of liberal teabaggers" Really? Really?
...and Obama sucks. ...and there are plenty of people like me. (I dont know if they call themselves teabaggers like I do but...
a fascist communist.
So either you are a liberal or a teabagger, choose wisely dude.
who is pretty liberal who knows (a long time ago) that Govt is owned by the corporations.
being a teapartyer is just saying no...
no taxes for a criminal govt.
liberals and conservatives can agree...(someones else) is running our govt!
(I know because I have some conservative friends) and we agree!!!(believe it or not!)
and have nothing to do with what you claim.
So again, choose.
define what a teabagger is!...(not good)
OK, good luck Mr. "liberal" teabagger.
LOL.
(that you must adjust to) doesn't fry your pre-judiced brain!
(liberals who don't pay taxes!!!!!&*$%@ (god help us!)
and sent Hammity, Beck and the usual members of the Goebbels Gang to Teabagger "rallies."
Teabaggers were funded by Dick Armey's PAC for one.
were the first teabaggers...
Glenn Beck Fox snooze and Dick Armey are johnny come lately wannabees...(get your shit strait mon!)
1st teaparty was last april 15th
started no longer matters . . . clusterfox took teabagging over, and to use that terminology for anything else dilutes your message.
who believes that the government should keep it's hands off corporations, close the NEA, deny gays the right to adopt and deny a woman's right to control her own body?
See VoteSmart link below.
Buh bye.
...is now a democrat!!!...(astonishing or what?) Joe Lieberman too!
your not a democrat are you?
(attaches stigma)
I assume you think all this tangential tapdancing makes your stripes look more thin?
PS. To add, Dr. Paul is also a physician who thinks healthcare is a privilege. How "liberal" of him, eh?
Nope. Voted for Obama for sake of protecting SCOTUS.
Figured he'd be pretty DLC otherwise.
Wish I would have been wrong.
Teabaggers would argue that the government being owned by corporations is a good thing, otherwise it would be socialism.
Where did I say all teabaggers are Republican? I have no doubt there are many people from many different backgrounds opposed to the bailouts and banksters.
If you want to call yourself a liberal teabagger, knock yourself out. I prefer to keep balls away from my chin.
with protesting the bailouts. Or if they were, they kept pretty quiet about it when they happened.
Valiant defender of deregulation and the Milton Friedman School of Economics.
Who cares that he published a racist rag and then claimed that he didn't know what was in his own newsletter?
He's a Republican! At least he's not a libbrull!
http://bartblog.bartcop.com/2007/12/19/ron-pa...
http://www.votesmart.org/npat.php?can_id=296
What, not relevant when the government is in on it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Antitrus...
of course they lied. the current administration has been doing the same thing. if events repeated themselves, they'd lie and bail them all out again.
why? because this merry go round functions on money. money is based on the dollar. fuck with this system, and the dollar collapses. if the dollar collapses, this government loses it's ability to micromanage its own citizens, other governments, and the global economy. and governments are very good at predicting challenges to their power.
obviously this was going to happen. and while it was happening a majority of Democrats, liberals, progressive were advocating bailouts because of the fear of total economic meltdown. same as the GOP and conservatives, who if they really believe in capitalism, should have been advocating capitalism's prescription for making mistakes: you lose your fucking money and/or go out of business.
Rep. Marcy Kaptur is one of the few who knows how to represent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7kAniKDOTs&fe...
I love Marcy Kaptur!!!
... to GTF out of this country. All 3 branches has been bought out and sold us down the river by Corporate America, the banking/Wall St. gang and the healthcare insurance companies.
There has been a class war going on since FDR put the oversight and regulations after the great depression which was caused by the same exact reason that caused the banking collapse last year.
What should scare the shit out of us is how these 1% people have gotten the working
Nascar red neck ass holesa large block of middle class to vote against their own well being from income to healthcare. These states have the lowest income per capita and the worst healthcare in comparison... yet they vote Republican. All because the Democrats pushed anti-segregation up their ass... and a black president is just too much for their simple brains unscramble.the last paragraph in particular
This is one fight I am willing to have. Are the cards stacked against us? Yes, but the one power money cannot shake is the power of the citizens when they join together in times like these. It is easy to give in to cynicism and pessimism, but this only leads to the worst of consequences.
Call me an optimist, a dreamer, or whatever. I accept this fact. Given our country's history and the many generations that have fought to make this a better country, what the hell makes us so damn special that we be willing to just GTF out of America?
We have a black president and a filibuster proof congress... has ANYTHING changed and where is this "fight" your the standard bearer for? We've voted enough people into power to fix the war, the Wall St. and banking re-regulations and the healthcare issue and yet nothing has changed! I don't expect miracles... I'd be happy with some progress.
As for "making this a better country" look again. Is 37th in healthcare that makes "us so damn special"?
Even when the cards appear to be on our side we can't even get equal healthcare for every American... considering EVERY other industrial country has one.
As long as the tax rate is 35% for the corporate executives, let them buy life insurance on it's employees, the post-great depression regulations are put back in full, allow our Congress to take
BRIBESlobby money from corporate America... you are in for a long wait before you "dream" will come true.Believe me If I could... I'd GTF out. I'm not going to wave the flags and carry the water for a country that doesn't give a rats ass of it's poor and middle class... Katrina is a shining example of what "make us special".
I truly understand where you are coming from and agree with all the damn things that are impacting us. If we up and leave thus allowing this takeover to stand, what assurance do you have that the elites won't show up in the country you went to via the IMF or World Bank to implement their disaster capitalism on you there?
Look this was never a bailout that was stated as soon as the first diversion of the TARP funds, we were warned it was a SNOW JOB, this is the NAZI RACIST FASCIST COMMUNIST Breaking America through its Treasury. You can easily identify the TRAITORS by the smoke screen and attacks on anyone trying to sort this out.
Pull the TARP money start IMMEDIATE investigation with CRIMMINAL and Jail time sentences and JAILS can NOT be negotiated all fines paid up front, and the CONFISCATION of personal assets that were accumulated during the course of this BOGUS crash.
Remember we were not allowed to think ask questions or put restrictions on the use this is intentional fraud on the part of those that proposed the limited regulation and conspiracy to defraud on behalf of the Banks involved.
again, no surprise that we have crooks in office when politics is a spectator sport rather than involving the participation of a country's citizens.
george carlin on politics: garbage in (shitty citizens), garbage out (shitty politicians)
Kind of like our health industry?
I make no apologies for anybody, but if you were paying close attention last year and earlier this year, you could hear the message that the most important thing was to REGAIN THE ILLUSION THAT THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS COULD SURVIVE. So maybe they shaded the truth a bit.
I listened A LOT because I am retired, and I saw jeopardy to my future. I still do. The financial advisors I had were for crap, and I was up to it in a couple of banks. Then Wells Fargo, my new safe harbor, bought Wachovia, and I had to start all over again trying to figure out where to put money so that it would be insured, for whatever that's worth. I listened, and I read, and I knew that nobody really knew what they were doing. Every week there were rumors about Citi and others on a list of over-extended institutions.
It ain't over yet, and I am not trusting anybody. I'm just paying attention. That's my advice: pay attention!
...gold.
...or at the very least, convert your dollars to euros.
Soon (very) ...the "oil dollar" will become the "oil euro"...
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The article names "Senior Officials". Names Bernanke and paulson. But who are those "senior officials"?
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