James O'Keefe: He and His Male Mentor Applied for Marriage License In Mass.
I believe that Carl Jung was a genius, and since he said the things that people attack are quite often a reflection of the things they despise and fear in themselves, I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps James O'Keefe is simply another self-loathing Republican closet case. I mean, look at his long track record of ridiculing the poor, ethnic minorities and otherwise marginalized groups - his choice of targets might be part of a larger picture.
Yesterday this interesting story ran in the Washington Independent. Could this be part of that picture?
Ben Wetmore, the 28-year-old conservative activist whom James O’Keefe called a “mentor,” has stayed out of the headlines since it was revealed that he housed O’Keefe and the other participants in the bungled sting of Sen. Mary Landrieu’s (D-La.) office. When I reached Wetmore by phone yesterday, he politely declined to talk about the situation until it settled down.
Still, the Wetmore-O’Keefe friendship was, in gonzo journalism terms, a productive one. In 2008, after O’Keefe had left the Leadership Institute, the two men recorded hidden camera video of themselves going to three state offices in Massachusetts, applying for marriage licenses, openly admitting that they were straight men who wanted to get married to take advantage of the benefits.
In the video, O'Keefe asks his friend if his girlfriend minds them getting married, and he says she doesn't. O'Keefe doesn't mention a girlfriend himself.
Then again, maybe he's just a shy, awkward sort who covers it up with bravado, the kind of socially-handicapped guy who's just trying to fit in any way he can - as evidenced by this picture showing O'Keefe at a performance by his Rutgers glee club at Carnegie Hall.
I guess that makes him a "Gleek" - only without the charm. Or the humanity.
I thought he was a closet case the moment I first laid eyes on him. I knew guys like him in college: they had the most outlandish, hateful opinions, and then they'd go back to their dorm room and look at gay porn while crying. I used to have a lot of sympathy for that particular plight, having experienced a lesser version when I was first coming out, but now they just make me incredibly angry. O'Keefe needs a wake up call.
My Gaydar went off immediatly.Not that there's anything wrong with that.And another thing....I thought that the judge that granted him his bail specifically said that he was supposed to stay with mommy and daddy, not his lover..I mean mentor.He definitely seems to live by his own laws, not ours. Why does he hate himself and America so much?
While I agree with your comments about our closeted friend, bringing Jung into it is not advisable.
A real crank:
"Jung believed in astrology, spiritualism, telepathy, telekinesis, clairvoyance and ESP. In addition to believing in a number of occult and paranormal notions, Jung contributed two new ones: synchronicity and the collective unconscious. "
http://www.skepdic.com/jung.html
... in astrology, spiritualism, telepathy, etc. is so much more harmful than believing in the Invisible Sky Daddy who is going to send a magic Rapture Bus to whisk all the good people off to heaven before he nukes the place for being sinful.
::: rolleyes :::
you atheistic ninny? He is sending in the cavalry.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I just don't subscribe to the 'God Will Clean My Room and Do My Homework' philosophy of deep thinkers like James Inhofe.
Just four horsemen.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
One riot, one ranger.
Four horsemen is cavalry.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I thought he was sending in the Calvary.
me-oww!
I will not engage in golgotha journalism.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Jung also said a lot of things that are quite appropriate and make sense, so what does that matter in the end.
It matters because his belief system was pretty screwed up. I'm basing that on previous posts because I don't personally know anything about Jung.
I would give somebody more credibility if they are religious than if they believe stuff that is demonstrably untrue (astrology, and telekinesis for example).
Religion is pounded into people's heads from the day we are born until the day we die. And even though it's bullshit it can't be proven true or untrue.
But Jung apparently believed a lot of things that can be proven untrue which seriously undermines his credibility.
Please go read some of Jung's primary-source work before you go spouting off as if you're some kind of expert. Jung said those things were useful belief systems and archetypes that were part of understanding the process of psychological integration. He did not "believe" in them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analytical_psych...
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Please read my post before you tell me what I think of myself.
Here's the applicable part:
"I'm basing that on previous posts because I don't personally know anything about Jung."
I certainly don't buy into astrology or telekinesis, but I also wouldn't say that they are more demonstrably untrue than religion. I give no one a "credibility pass" based on religious belief. Once you're old enough to think rationally, it should become patently obvious - if you are interested in the truth - that religion is a load of crap. There is no more "proof" of the validity of religious beliefs than there is that astrology is a truly predictive science. I'd even argue a good astrologer can at least make a plausible case as to the "scientific" basis of their craft; religion can't even muster that - it asks you to believe based on NOTHING. Astrology, Christianity, Judaism - they're all superstition and hokum, and devout belief in any of them is a sign of at least some level of delusional thinking.
I agree. My point that I probably didn't make very well is that religion bombards us all through our lives as being all things good and if you're not religious you're all things bad.
Personally, I think about 2% of those who would call themselves Christian on a poll really believe it. More likely they're just not brave enough to go against the flow.
My belief is based on scientifically observable facts and reproducible events, such as:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bal...
Why do people who are consumed by the demands of their own personal survival even care about anonymous strangers suffering in another country more than a thousand miles away?
That's a great story.
That's a good question. There have been studies on altruism in people and in animals but I'm not sure there is a consensus on its origin and prevalence. If you're insinuating that altruism is somehow proof of a higher being then you're reaching for straws. There is no reason to attribute ANYTHING to God just because you do not adequately understand it. That should be obvious on the face of it.
I tell you what.
I didn't read or study Jung but I liked his NOTION (not fact) of the existence of a collective consciousness that is shared among all humans.
Furthermore, I do believe the internet is a reification of his concept of a collective conscious, where thoughts and ideas are instantly shared with complete strangers and the whole becomes greater than the sum of the parts.
I am pretty sure that Mr. Jung was smarter then the average poster on this blog.
'nuff said.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I have no emotional stake in Jung's balls.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
in the intellectual averages among posters in this august repository of contemporary American (Canadians welcome) thought?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I believe there are some Brits, Kiwis, and Aussies here on occasion too.
They just best be careful not to leave loose thought reposits around.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I don't even know what that proves as it is. Men and women don't always get married for the best purposes.
Are we supposed to feel outrage that the municipal clerks did not insist that they consummate their marriage on the desk to prove their gay love and fidelity?
the municipal clerks did not insist that they consummate their marriage on the desk to prove their gay love and fidelity?
I would hope the hidden cameras would be rolling to capture THAT!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Despite their protestations of being straight and having no intentions of consummating the marriage, given community property laws 'n such, one of these boys has set himself up to be screwed by the other.
They did not get married. They merely applied for marriage licenses.
Are you sure? They did sign the license after all...
unless you kiss. ;) That's the logic being followed by these dimwits.
You're right!
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in a nutsack.
http://www.glad.org/uploads/docs/publications/how-to-get-married-ma.pdf
Pages 3-5:
exactly....like a man and a woman NEVER got married for any reason other than love! This is another conservative appeal to fear and ignorance. Unfortunately, it works because there are too many Americans who lack critical thinking skills. Couple that with a corporate ownded media who thrives on the sensationalism of a story, while ignoring any meaningful, logical analysis.
married a cucumber.
It's funny that Palin complains about "gotcha" journalism when Katie Couirc asked her about newspapers that she had read but she is suspiciously silent when these O'Keefe like freaks operate and show their crap all over her Fox News. If she is so against "gotcha" journalism why would she work for the biggest gotcha journalism outlet on the planet? I guess she is trying to figure out how to get out of her predicament with the Limbaough/Emanual retard comments.
Now that was a fragmented comment, wasn't it.
The right wing is producing a whole generation of sociopathic scam artists who engage in scam activities in order to avoid the responsibilities of getting an education and getting a real job.
James O'Keefe is simply the symptom and product of an entire mindset that screams about personal responsibiility while shirking it, preaches a moral code while breaking it, treats life as if it's just one big frat party, all while engaging in activities which damage the good names of other human beings.
There used to be laws against the libelous, criminal behavior that individuals like James O'Keefe engage in.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
ties that O'Keefe has:
http://maxblumenthal.com/2010/02/james-okeefe...
What's emerging is a picture of a spoiled, self-entitled brat who thinks that minorities get every break in life. And yet ironically as he's got this idea that minorities are lazy and coast on whether advantages our disadvantaged backgrounds can get for us, this new gay marriage revelation shows he's the one who wants to coast on "government handouts."
I've never seen change without a fire
James O’Keefe and the other scam artists of which you write, are only bringing to politics and the secular world what has been the game plan of the most successful fundamentalist religious leaders for the past fifty years.
couldn't these "straight" boys just marry a woman for the same benefits? What is the point that's trying to be proved here? That no woman would have anything to do with them? That's a given. Newsflash.....no gay man would want anything to do with you either.
These guys are too stupid to get laid...by either gender.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Were they trying to prove that if we have gay marriage then straight men will marry straight men so they can have the same benefits that gay married partners will have? If that was their point, it was a freakin' stretch for a story.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
marry, it's mainly to double the wardrobe. Just kidding. But that's my point....What are they trying to prove? It makes no sense....but pretty much everyhting they do makes no sense, so this is par for the course here.
Is why I think it's significant.
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and shiny object distraction, ya think? I do too. Plus, with DADT up front again, why not bring in marriage equality to rile up the wingnuts? Especially since the RW got there asses handed back to them publicly recently.
I believe this bit of ‘journalism’ was supposed to be a sting, to show that the people giving out marriage permits in a state that allows same sex marriage have had their belief in the sanctity of marriage so corrupted by the process that they even allow two straight men to marry for financial purposes.
Why this went nowhere must be because wiser heads pointed out that the clerks can’t actually refuse to give them a license. There is no story until they go through with the marriage. Then, they could announce that they only got married in order to defraud their insurance provider. The result would be that the insurance company may have cause to void their policy, but they would still be man and spouse.
(I agree it's a stretch, and a weird one. But let's follow it anyway, if just for grins and giggles.)
Doesn't having straight marriage allow gay men to marry women in order to gain "benefits" too? The practice was relatively common back in "the day", particularly for gay men in the public eye: actors, politicians, etc.
But lets go whole hog. If we really want to keep people from marrying for the "wrong" reasons, we need to ban all marriage. Kinda like taking off and nuking it from orbit: it's the only way to be sure.
are able to marry receive more benefits than straight married couples. That's the "logic" of these types...
I've never seen change without a fire
and a judge doesn't grant them a divorce?
watched "I Now Pronouce You Chuck and Larry" and got all hot and bothered.
"Hey, it worked for Kevin James and Adam Sandler! And Adam Sandler got to fondle Jessica Biel's tits!"
I would laugh my ass off!
Marriage, no matter what sexual orientation can be exploited. O'Keefe is an idiot!
Gay men and women have married straight friends to get "benefits". Heck, the whole of the GOP is proof of that! Look at Larry Craig, he married a woman so that he could get elected.
There's just something eerie about this whole O'keefe story. It's kind of like when you are outside and get a whiff of an odor that smells like some animal has died, about a week ago. You just know by the smell that it's coming from something unpleasant.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
There's something deeply unauthentic about the guy.
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
I heard he murdered and raped, in that order, a young...
He is simply some poor pathetic nobody who is trying to become an unauthentic "somebody"...like Sarah Palin.
Our mass media society is creating caricatures.
Marshall McLuhan was completely right in his predictions. The media IS the message.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
... is Marshal Dillon. Or maybe Wyatt Earp.
It's almost as though this guy, O'Keefe, is trying to prove something to someone, maybe even to himself. He's a strange creature.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
He's crying out...NOTICE ME! NOTICE ME! I'm not the little dweeb that got beaten up in HS!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
He better watch his ass. If he keeps trying to do this gotcha stuff and he may cross someone who will want to teach him a lesson. It could get ugly. Hopefully he has learned something from this most recent event, but for some reason I kind of doubt it. His ACORN story made him feel invincible and now hopefully he has learned he isn't.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
... as someone who edits video for a living, I could think of a few lessons that might make clear the reason for journalistic ethics to Mr. O'Keefe.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
If he thought he was invincible, wouldn't he grant interviews to non-FOX stations? Obviously, he knows his story is highly vulnerable.
Or is that "flammable...?"
Well, guys thanks for proving that gay marriage is no better or worse that straight marriage. And for perjuring yourselves on tape. The clerks really don't care what you're getting married for. And the clerks just said, ok, you're lying, will you go under oath with your lie? Yes? Ok.
And you filmed yourself lying under oath? even better.
They're not the marriage police, unless O'Keefe would prefer to have government investigations of all marriages?
Great point!
I don't think the form has a check-box for the reason you're getting married. As well, the clerk isn't there to judge. If the intent is to get insurance benefits, good luck to 'em.
When you sign the form then technically you are married from that point on. The church ceremony is only a formality. Therefore O'Keefe married someone when he was already married, so is he a bigamist?
I think in most every state the license needs to be signed by someone legally empowerd to pronounce a marriage (priest, rabbi, JOP, ship's captain, or even some-guy-who-pays-a-nominal-fee-for-a-one-time-privilege). There's generally a waiting period before this can be done (3 days is typical) and time limit for it to happen in (a month or two). You're not really married till you bring back the signed document and the clerk or whoever enters it in the records.
Used to be you were married as soon as you both said you were, or acted like you were, our marriage traditions being influenced by the Pilgrims who themselves brought over the Dutch tradition of marriage as a purely civil matter. Nowadays, most states require marriages to be recorded in order to count.
Aside from the fact that an opposite-sex couple could engage in the same sharp practice what I am trying to work around is the fact that they applied for three licenses... swore three times that to the best of their knowledge there were no legal impediments to their getting married. Sounds like at least two of those affidavits were fraudulent.
Someone upthread clarified that a marriage license isn't a marriage itself, just a statement of intent. I stand corrected.
"I’ve known campus conservative activists for a decade, and I know the people who put together the 2006 forum quite well. Extremism — theories about race, right-wing European politics, anti-immigration rhetoric — is seen in these circles as something of a lark. It’s forbidden knowledge."
"right-wing European politics" What's the ideology/motivation of... right-wing European politics?
Who else had a problem with civil rights?
"Catholic Charities of Boston said it has placed 13 of 720 adopted children with same-sex couples in the past 20 years.
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Cardinal Alfonso López Trujillo, Vatican head of the Pontifical Council for the Family, told Fides news service in May that allowing same sex couples to adopt children, “would destroy the child’s future, it would be an act of moral violence against the child.”
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As president of the Pontifical Council for the Family, Cardinal Alfonso López Trujillo was a highly influential proponent of conservative and traditionalist values, particularly on sexual matters and on liberation theology. He advocated abstinence as an effective solution in preventing the spread of HIV. He reaffirmed the Church's teaching that the use of condoms is immoral, and controversially sought to discourage condom use among Catholics by stating that they are ineffective in preventing the transmission of HIV — a claim that was denounced by global health officials.
I see this as a spiritual dilemma, cuz the good book(s) tell me so. :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I'm not so sure he's gay. Any time I see the guy he really looks uncomfortable with whatever it is that's stuck up his ass.
did he say he wasn't gay?
Sometimes No means Yes.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Shorter James O'Keefe: "Dude, I want to marry you. UH, in a totally non-gay sort of way, that is"
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
foreigners just to get green cards for them.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Hush, you're giving O'Keefe and company ideas.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
They're ALL part of the same fruitcake.
I see you didn't even attempt to read the skepic's site.
Straight couples can fake a marriage for benefits, as well, not to mention green cards.
and not for love....
Some 'traditional marriages' in many cultures....were mergers.
stopped the Pope from blessing the Armada in an effort to restore the throne of England to the papal dominion.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Since I don't know Jung's age or the other guy who has been funding his adventures age, I wonder are they both older than O'Keefe? I have a theory bubbling up in my mind.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
For his felony, he could get two years of a life changing, love making experience in a state prison. Man, God is great! Go into the joint a felon, come out: Jamie O'Keefe. Righteous! A lifetime change.
(It was in him all the time....)
It's disgusting and shouldn't happen to anyone.
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
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Amen!
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
Why do you assume it's rape?
Two lonely souls fall in love, close quarters, well past the age of consent...
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
that if he got 2 years, after having such an experience he would probably want to sign up for a lifetime membership.
Or you'll be banned.
Prison rape is our national disgrace.
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
Our entire prison system is our national disgrace...
I thought the GOP was our national disgrace. If it weren't for them there would be far less violence against everyone everywhere on the planet.
But but but...our national disgrace is flag burning...no no..wait..it's the elimination of school prayer...noo noo...it's abortion...no..wait...it's homosexuality...no no...its left wing media...wait wait...its disrespect of the military...no no...its...socialist style social programs...no...no...regulation...governement waste...the heartbreak of psoriasis!!!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
conversation with your doctor about whether your erectile disfunction is covered by your same sex partners insurance coverage.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
or with your insurance carrier.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
it is disheartening to converse with them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LF0AJ4fp0eg
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
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In no way was I talking a "violent" awakening. I was saying "lovemaking" in a quiet place. If it's in him, it's in him.
Get your mind out of the gutter. He's the one that wanted to get married to a man. Jeeez, Louise. Besides, he is a felon for a reason. That's pretty violent.
Is not "lovemaking."
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
No wonder my marriage broke up. ;o)
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Since they are so convinced bestiality is just around the corner if we have the same rights they do.
would consent to such a thing.
I don't know...that ground hog eyed up his own shadow in a way that made me a bit uncomfortable.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Box turtles are an acceptable substitute and unconcerned about
the sun unless you leave them unprotected after forcing the missionary position on them.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
If you've ever been to prison, you learn one real truth: SOME PEOPLE BELONG IN PRISON FOR A GOOD REASON. And they should never come out. Those people live in a community. They are sensitive to that. It's a community. It has it's social circles. It's a real world for them. What you think is coercion is seduction too. I'm just saying he wanted to marry a man. He is an accused felon. It might be heaven for him. Just saying. So, let's move along with how bad the republican party (which O'Keefe is a member)really is.
Same sex marriage is a threat to the sanctity of insurance coverage!
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I guess if you want to front the $2k and a year of fiddling around with the courts... oh yeah. Piece of cake.
Once again, a conservative says something without any knowledge...
oh wait, I think that is always.
too bad we're not Republicans or we could just say loud and clear and often that O'KEEFE IS GAY....O'KEEFE IS GAY....O'KEEFE IS GAY...
even tho' we had no proof of that....the we could get our Representatives to repeat the same on national TV and the only way he could prove it wrong is to release a video of him and some girl having sex (I know....eeeewww) and then we could trash him for THAT!
all it takes is all of us
What is to prevent those same black teen age girls from the DC teabag march from showing up at the "Free the Phone Pimp Four" rally and selling paraphenalia for ACORN?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOPsla-MyLk
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
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I've never seen change without a fire
I know plenty of people who get married just for the benefits. And gay men have been marrying women they don't love for YEARS.
It's striking the lengths that big girls will go, simply to have a regular dance partner. ;o)
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
nothing worse than an irregular dance partner!
It's pretty easy to imagine them in a circle jerk. They're not a particularly handsome bunch. And Stan Dia with his "Penis Monologues". MMM HMMMM. I think all of em are closeted gay wingnutsacks.
...in finding this post tawdry and offensive? It's probably the sleeziest piece I've ever read on C&L. Wasn't this blog created to expose such loathsome tactics in the media?
Is to throw them back in the faces of the worst offenders.
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
How is this sleezy? I don't see it.
There's nothing here to seriously suggest O'Keefe is gay. The psychological stuff is just ridiculous crap. Implying someone is gay based on scant evidence(Glee Club! No girlfriend!) is sleezy in my book. Obviously, homosexuality is not as stigmatized these days, but I'm pretty sure most of us wouldn't shrug this off if it came from a right wing source, aimed at someone we admire.
I really don't see the purpose of this post, other than the wicked pleasure of supposedly giving O'Keefe a taste of his own medicine. That's already been done, though, to a far greater degree by the FBI.
Cowpunk. I seen sleazier.
And as for tawdry, I haven't seen a mention one of Miss Annie Coulter.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
First, it wasn't Jung who came up with the theory that we project onto others traits in ourselves that we despise; it was Freud. Second, O'Keefe wasn't "pretending to be gay," he IS gay (although, of course, deeply closeted).
"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez
Why would anyone with two functioning brain cells to rub together seriously buy the story that two straight men would apply for a marriage license in order to take advantage of the benefits? That's about on a par with buying the story that two people dressed up as a caricature of a pimp and a hooker are genuinely looking for advice on how to disguise what they really do for a living so that they can buy a house and turn it into a brothel.
What seems more likely is that this is simply another one of O'Keefe's stunts -- perhaps trying to prove that legalizing gay marriage will only encourage people to apply for marriage licenses under false pretenses for mercenary reasons (which a heterosexual couple could do just as easily).
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
I don't think this is any proof of O'Keefe's sexual orientation.
I think it proves that he doesn't have a working relationship with logic.
And it proves he's an asshole, but there's already ample proof of that.
more than amply demonstrated to the world his singularly sleazy scamming ability. And it's too bad that the public servants he scammed in Massachussetts were so cordial to him, especially after learning directly from him that he is engaging in fraud. But the charge of the public servant is to serve the public. It's too bad that these ladies didn't then turn around and report this fraud to their supervisors which is what they rightly should have done. Anyone can be sleazy and try to scam and fraud and people like O'Keefe have that naturally inbred ability. And proving how the system here was so seemingly open to the commission of fraud only shows how there should be safeguards in place that would expose the fraud when it occurs.
If this be a video (with audio) of the exchange, and the taping was done without the consent of the other party (presumably the official), then the individual who made the video is guilty of wiretapping. Massachusetts is a "2 party consent" state when it comes to voice recording. Until this is overturned (which seems likely) at the moment it's still a crime.
The ACLU has filed a lawsuit in Massachusetts on behalf of an attorney who was charged (later dropped) of wiretap when he engaged in videotaping of police who were performing an arrest.
Massachusetts authorities might take some interest here... if they have not already?
Maryland and Pennsylvania both have laws on the books which make it illegal to tape anyone without his or her consent...but at least as far as I know, very little effort has been made so far to hold him accountable for his violation of these laws when he secretly taped ACORN staffers in Baltimore and Philadelphia. O'Keefe has tried to claim that he didn't know he was breaking the law, but most people would agree that ignorance of the law does not excuse someone from paying the penalty (although it may be taken into consideration as a mediating factor if the person has no previous convictions). Maybe if someone had gone after O'Keefe for his violation of state laws with regard to the ACORN tapes -- and maybe if Republicans hadn't been so eager to praise him -- his ego wouldn't have swelled to such monumental proportions that he thought he would be allowed to get away with trying to wiretap a Congresswoman!
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
Two weeks ago. Wrote about it here, no one paid attention.
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
his (Wetmore's) girlfriend is named "JODY"?
"In the Marines, a "Jody" is a generalized term meaning: any man who stays home while everyone else goes to war." - http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?ter...
Now, why would a real straight man try to get benefits as a gay man when he can already get them as a straight man? Answer: He wouldn't, Wetmore (LOL) and his boytoy O'Keefe just did it so they could have the honeymoon and then register at Niemen Marcus for FABULOUS things for their condo.
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