Rather than simply describing the types of coordinated attacks on healthcare reform that are happening, I thought it would be easier to understand exactly what we're dealing with if you could instead read the type of lying, manipulative, inflammatory "facts" being fed to the elderly and conservative Christians by "Godly" men like Gordon Klingenschmitt - the Navy chaplain who was canned for disobeying orders. (Or as he puts it: Disclaimer: The views of Chaplain Klingenschmitt, who was honorably but involuntarily discharged from the Navy in 2007 after facing court-martial for praying 'in Jesus name' in uniform, (but was later vindicated by Congress), are his own personal views.)
This is the new email from In Jesus' Name, the fundamentalist fundraising machine ginned up by Klingenschmitt to replace the Navy pension he lost by willfully ignoring orders:
HOT NEW PETITION to STOP OBAMA'S SOCIALIST HEALTH CARE TAKEOVER. Please click, sign, and WE WILL FAX your petition automatically to all 52 "Blue-Dog" House Democrats and/or all 100 Senators, right away (saving you hours of labor!) and saving unborn children, grandmothers, grandfathers, and all other grand-genders created by this bill from Government-forced extermination.
Grandmas and Unborn Babies Face Extermination by Obama's "Health" Care Plan
Investors Business Daily has just exposed the Achilles' heel of Obamacare, that hostile, socialist government takeover of your hospital, doctors, children, and grandparents. In an editorial entitled, "How House Bill Runs Over Grandma," the editors report how President Obama was personally confronted by a North Carolina woman asking if "everyone that's Medicare age will be visited and told they have to decide how they wish to die."
In response Obama joked that he hadn't yet hired enough bureaucrats to conduct such an operation, yet he could not deny the New York Post's discovery the House bill "compels seniors to submit to a counseling session every five years (and more often if they become sick or go into a nursing home) about alternatives for end-of-life care" (pages 425-430). In other words, your grandmother will be told, when insufficient resources are rationed to young people, that her duty to die begins with mandatory "end-of-life counseling," or as Obama explained, "encourage the use of living wills" that terminate otherwise salvageable lives prematurely through signed "do not resuscitate" (DNR) legal releases.
1) EUTHANASIA is the first result of Obama's socialist government "health" care plan.
Bankrupt state can't afford to pay for grandma's hip replacement? Obama's plan sends her a lawyer to make her sign a DNR, explaining her hastened duty to die, and obtaining her signature legally absolving him of all guilt. Euthanasia begins where capitalism ends.
CLICK HERE TO SIGN PETITION, AND WE WILL FAX ALL 52 "BLUE-DOG" DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE, AND ALL 100 SENATORS, TO OPPOSE OBAMACARE.
Widely respected Minister Rick Joyner wrote this week, after reviewing Mat Staver's analysis of H.R. 3200 "Health" care bill, voicing his strong opinion that this bill "is about euthanasia, the power to determine who lives or dies in America. Hitler and Stalin would have loved to have had a means such as this for dispatching the millions they killed-it would have made their job much easier, and probably given them the ability to kill many more than they did. THIS BILL IS THAT SINISTER. This is not a joke." You can read Mat Staver's line-by-line analysis of the 1000 page health care bill at the bottom of this email.
Now here's something we can do. Any readers from Florida or Virginia can file a complaint with their state bar association that Matt Staver (aka Mathew D. Staver, Founder and Chairman, Dean and Professor of Law, Liberty University School of Law) has used his position as the dean of a law school to lie about the interpretation of this bill and deliberately inflame the public dialogue. (Rebuttals here and here.)
The rest of you? Well, you can call him at one of his offices (434-592-5200, 800-671-1776) and let him know what you think.
2) Tax-payer funded ABORTION on demand is another guaranteed result.
Last week several so-called "pro-life Democrats" executed a bait and switch that will fully fund abortion on demand in the new Obamacare "health" bill. Led by compromiser and ex-pro-life Congressman Tim Ryan (D-OH), who was recently booted as an advisor to Democrats for Life of America for his lack of principle, the liberal House Democrats overruled conservative Republicans 30-28 to pass the hideous "Capps Amendment" to H.R.3200 in the Energy and Commerce Committee. This amendment now deceptively creates a phony accounting scheme that gives the false impression your tax-payer dollars will not subsidize abortion, while it simultaneously nationalizes free abortions for low-income urban neighborhoods, fulfilling the dream of Margaret Sanger (and her protege Ruth Bader Ginsburg) that African American babies will be the first exterminated in the government funded ovens that weed out "Populations that we don't want to have too many of."
Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ) explained the Capps Amendment: "It's one of the most deceptive amendments I have ever seen. The bottom line is that money is fungible, and the plan itself will be subsidizing abortion-on-demand, with taxpayer funding commingled, and the numbers of abortions will go up significantly."
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3) Obama will REMOVE Christian prayers and symbols from Government-run hospitals
The hostile socialist government takeover of Catholic or Christian hospitals will eventually result in atheistic silencing of religious expression (and removing all Christian symbols) from the very place where faith in God is critical to sick and dying patients. For example, look at the Veterans Hospitals, already government-run, who are busy removing crosses and Christian symbols from their chapels (like in Iowa), because easily-offended atheist complainers have successfully intimidated hospital administrators with threats of lawsuit, by demanding separation of church and state. Just imagine more atheist lawsuits, when all Catholic and Christian hospitals are seized in the same way Obama took control of General Motors, inviting easily-offended atheist complainers to demand we change the name of the hospital from "St. Luke's Memorial" to the "Obama Government" hospital, falsely claiming tax-dollars cannot subsidize religion. But if St. Luke's refuses government subsidies, they will be drummed out of business, and Christian doctors' licenses revoked.
Can a government-run hospital still allow Christian chapels, or pay Christian chaplains, or permit Christian doctors to pray Christian prayers with their willing patients, or even allow Christian parents to control the health care options forced upon their dying children? Just ask Florida Hospital Chaplain Danny Harvey, fired last year from Leesburg Regional Medical Center because he prayed "in Jesus name" at a public memorial service. [Editor's note: His contract specified that he conduct non-denominational services.] Ask Christian Pharmacists who Washington has already forced to dispense "Plan-B" abortion pills against their conscience, or doctors denied a "conscience clause" to opt out of abortions when Obama refused to renew Bush's pro-life executive orders. Ask Nurse Catherina Lorena Cenzon-DeCarlo, who recently was forced to participate in a second-trimester abortion against her will, and is now suing Mount Sinai Hospital in Manhattan for "blatantly" violating her rights under a 35 year old federal law that protects health care workers with religious objections from being forced to assist in murderous abortions. [Editor's note: The woman was suffering from pre-eclampsia, a life-threatening condition during pregnancy.] Ask Pentecostal Ministers Dale and Leilani Neumann, who were charged with second-degree murder of their 11-year-old daughter, because they refused to trust the power of a government hospital to heal their little girl who tragically died with diabetes. [Editor's note: It's not news that refusing necessary medical care to a child who dies gets you in trouble with the law.] Can you say mandatory godlessness in "health" care? If government has power to dictate your health care options, they also have power to seize your children when you refuse. Think about it. Will you dare refuse the H1N1 vaccine when ordered to poison your children? No religious exemptions for doctors, patients, or parents are readily apparent in the current Obamacare bill. So take action with me...
CLICK HERE TO SIGN PETITION, AND WE WILL FAX ALL 52 "BLUE-DOG" DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE, AND ALL 100 SENATORS, TO OPPOSE OBAMACARE.
4) Homosexuals free $50,000 tax-funded sex-change surgery not excluded by Democrats.
My friend Matt Barber with Liberty Counsel made phone calls to several Congressional staffers, and Democrats from the offices of Sen. Harry Reid, Rep. Charlie Rangel, Rep. Barney Frank and the House Subcommittee on Health all refused to give, very simply, 'an assurance that the proposed health care plan will not allow taxpayer funded gender reassignment surgeries or hormone therapies.' Instead, they affirmed page 972 of the House version of the bill (H.R. 3200) which provides for "standards, as appropriate, for the collection of accurate data on health and health care" based on "sex, sexual orientation [and] gender identity." The Senate draft likewise requires the Department of Health and Human Services to "develop standards for the measurement of gender." (i.e., officially recognize subjectively self-determined "transgender" or "transsexual" gender identities). It further mandates "participation in the institutions' programs of individuals and groups from...different genders and sexual orientations." Democrats want more than 2 genders included the bill. In your townhall meetings, ask them how many? Forgive me, but I was raised on a farm, and there was one simple test for "measuring the gender" of mammals. They're either male or female. Just look.
The bottom line? Your tax-dollars will pay for preferential hiring of homosexual hospital administrators, who distribute $50,000 grants to gender-confused activists for unneeded elective surgery to mutilate their own genitals, (and force Christian doctors to perform it.) And nobody has yet offered an amendment that excludes this. Let's get started, by asking your Congressman in your town hall meetings this week, "Will you sponsor an amendment that excludes elective sex-change operations from tax-payer funding?" Some media complain conservatives hire thugs to challenge Congress with tough questions, but we don't. So please just read the bill summary far below, get informed, and show up to speak Truth at town hall. Meanwhile I will do more research for you myself.
So let me summarize Obama's health care plan: 1) Euthenizes grandma, 2) Mandates funding murder of innocent children, 3) Empowers atheist litigants to outlaw the healing power of the Christian faith, 4) Refuses to exclude funding sex-change operations.
CLICK HERE TO SIGN PETITION, AND WE WILL FAX ALL 52 "BLUE-DOG" DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE, AND ALL 100 SENATORS, TO OPPOSE OBAMACARE.
We all gasped when the federal government seized control of General Motors, and Obama effectively fired the Chairman and replaced the board with government bureaucrats selected by Treasury Secretary Geithner. Now Obama and his liberal Democratic House allies want to replace your doctors with bureaucrats, hasten grandma's demise, abort and kill children in urban neighborhoods, cut doctors' pay and control their religion, and transform Christian hospitals into government-controlled atheist bureaucracies. Does any of this remind you of Communism? I won't stand idly by to allow this. I will fax Congress to say, "no to Obamacare." Will you? Please sign our petition and I'll send your faxes now. Then please forward this email to all your friends who care about our beloved country, especially those senior citizens who may be at greatest risk.
God Bless you, in Jesus' name,
Chaplain Gordon James Klingenschmitt
P.S. Time is urgent! When the House and Senate return from summer vacation their first priority is to send Obama this dangerous "health" care bill. Please don't delay, but sign our petition today!
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BELOW IS THE DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE 1000 PAGE HEALTH CARE PLAN BY MY FRIEND MAT STAVER, DEAN OF LIBERTY UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW:
Obama Health Care Plan Details
HR 3200 currently under consideration in the House of Representatives
*HC = "Health Care"
Pg 22 of the HC Bill MANDATES the Government will audit the books of ALL EMPLOYERS that self insure!!
Pg 29 lines 4-16 in the HC Bill - YOUR HEALTH CARE IS RATIONED!!!
Pg 30 Sec 123 of HC Bill - THERE WILL BE A GOVERNMENT COMMITTEE that decides what treatments/benefits you get
Pg 42 of HC Bill - The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!
Pg 50 Section 152 in HC Bill - HC will be provided to ALL non-U.S. citizens, illegal or otherwise
Pg 58 HC Bill - Government will have real-time access to individual's finances and a National ID Health Care Card will be issued!
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24 Government will have direct access to your banks accounts for electronic funds transfer.
Pg 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan for retirees and their families in unions and community organizations (ACORN).
Pg 72 Lines 8-14 Government is creating a Health Care Exchange to bring private health care plans under government control.
Pg 84 Sec 203 HC Bill - Government mandates ALL benefit packages for private health care plans in the Exchange
Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs for of Benefit Levels for Plans = The government will ration your health care!
Pg 91 Lines 4-7 HC Bill - Government mandates linguistic appropriate services.
Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The government will use groups i.e., ACORN & AmeriCorps to sign up individuals for government Health Care Plan
Pg 85 Line 7 HC Bill - Specs of Ben Levels 4 Plans. #AARP members - Your health care WILL be rationed
Pg 102 Lines 12-18 HC Bill - Medicaid Eligible Individual will be automatically enrolled in Medicaid. No choice.
Pg 124 lines 24-25 HC No company can sue the government on price fixing. No "judicial review" against this government monopoly.
Pg 127 Lines 1-16 HC Bill - Doctors/ #AMA - The government will tell YOU what you can make.
Pg 145 Line 15-17 An employer MUST auto enroll employees into public option plan. NO CHOICE
Pg 126 Lines 22-25 Employers MUST pay for health care for part-time employees AND their families.
Pg 149 Lines 16-24 ANY Employer w/ payroll 400k and above who does not prov. pub opt. pays 8% tax on all payroll
Pg 150 Lines 9-13 Businesses with payroll between 251k and 400k who do not provide public opt pays 2-6% tax on all payroll
Pg 167 Lines 18-23 ANY individual who doesn't have acceptable health care according to government will be taxed 2.5% of income.
Pg 170 Lines 1-3 Any NONRESIDENT Alien is exempt from individual taxes (Americans will pay).
Pg 195 Officers & employees of HC Administration (GOVT) will have access to ALL Americans' financial and personal records.
Pg 203 Line 14-15 HC - "The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax." Yes, it says that.
Pg 239 Line 14-24 HC Bill Government will reduce physician services for Medicaid. Seniors, low income, poor affected.
Pg 241 Line 6-8 HC Bill - Doctors, it does not matter what specialty you have, you'll all be paid the same.
Pg 253 Line 10-18 Government sets value of doctors' time, prof judg, etc. Literally value of humans.
Pg 265 Sec 1131Government mandates and controls productivity for private health care industries.
Pg 268 Sec 1141 Federal Government regulates rental and purchase of power-driven wheelchairs.
Pg 272 SEC. 1145. Treatment of certain cancer hospitals - Cancer patients - welcome to rationing!
Page 280 Sec 1151 The government will penalize hospitals for what government deems preventable readmissions. (Incentives for hospital to not treat and release.)
Pg 298 Lines 9-11 Doctors that treat a patient during initial admission that results in a readmission-Government will penalize you.
Pg 317 L 13-20 PROHIBITION on ownership/investment. Government tells Doctors what/how much they can own.
Pg 317-318 lines 21-25, 1-3 PROHIBITION on expansion- Government is mandating hospitals cannot expand.
pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have opportunity to apply for exception, BUT community input required. Can you say ACORN?!!
Pg335 L 16-25 Pg 336-339 - Government mandates establishment of outcome based measures. Health Care the way they want. Rationing.
Pg 341 Lines 3-9 Government has authority to disqualify Medicare Advantage Plans (Part B), HMOs, etc. Forcing people into Government plan.
Pg 354 Sec 1177 - Government will RESTRICT enrollment of special needs people!
Pg 379 Sec 1191 Government creates more bureaucracy - Tele-health Advisory Committee. Health care by phone/Internet?
Pg 425 Lines 4-12 Government mandates Advance [Death] Care Planning Consultion. Think Senior Citizens end of life.
Pg 425 Lines 17-19 Government will instruct and consult regarding living wills, durable powers of attorney. Mandatory!
Pg 425 Lines 22-25, 426 Lines 1-3 Government provides approved list of end of life resources, guiding you in death.
Pg 427 Lines 15-24 Government mandates program for orders for end of life. The government has a say in how your life ends.
Pg 429 Lines 1-9 An "advanced care planning consult" will be used frequently as patient's health deteriorates.
Pg 429 Lines 10-12 " advanced care consultation" may include an ORDER for end of life plans. AN ORDER from Government.
Pg 429 Lines 13-25 - The government will specify which doctors can write an end of life order.
PG 430 Lines 11-15 The government will decide what level of treatment you will have at end of life.
Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non-profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Services here!!?
Pg 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment to a community-based org. Like ACORN?
Pg 489 Sec 1308 The government will cover Marriage and Family therapy. They will insert government into your marriage.
Pg 494-498 Government will cover Mental Health Services including defining, creating, rationing those services.
PG 502 Sec 1181 Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research Established. - Hello Big Brother - Literally.
Pg 503 Lines 13-19 Government will build registries and data networks from YOUR electronic medical records.
Pg 503 lines 21-25 Government may secure data directly from any department or agency of the U.S. who have any of your data.
Pg 504 Lines 6-10 The "Center" will collect data both published and unpublished (that means public and your private info).
PG 506 Lines 19-21 The Center will recommend policies that would allow for public access of data.
PG 518 Lines 21-25 The Commission will have input from Health Care consumer reps - Can you say unions and ACORN?
PG 524 18-22 Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund set up. More taxes for ALL.
PG 621 Lines 20-25 Government will define what quality means in health care. Since when does government know about quality?
Pg 622 Lines 2-9 To pay for the Quality Standards, government will transfer money from other government Trust Funds. More Taxes.
PG 624 "Quality" measures shall be designed to assess outcomes and functional status of patients.
PG 624 "Quality" measures shall be designed to profile you including race, age, gender, place of residence, etc.
Pg 628 Sec 1443 Government will give "Multi-Stake Holders" Pre-Rule Making input into Selection of "Quality" Measures.
Pg 630 9-24/631 1-9 Those multi-stake holder groups include unions and groups like ACORN deciding health care quality.
Pg 632 Lines 14-25 The Government may implement any "Quality measure" of health care services as they see fit.
PG 633 14-25/ 634 1-9 The Secretary may issue non-endorsed "Quality Measures" for Physician Services and Dialysis Services.
Pg 635 to 653 Physicians Payments Sunshine Provision - Government wants to shine sunlight on doctor but not government.
Pg 654-659 Public Reporting on Health Care-Associated Infections - Looks okay.
PG 660-671 Doctors in Residency - Government will tell you where your residency will be, thus where you'll live.
Pg 676-686 Government will regulate hospitals in EVERY aspect of residency programs, including teaching hospitals.
Pg 686-700 Increased Funding to Fight Waste, Fraud, and Abuse. Do they mean like the government with an $18 million website?
PGs 701-704 Sec 1619 If your part of health care plan isn't in Government Health Care Exchange but you qualify for Federal aid, no payment.
PG 705-709 SEC. 1128 If Secretary gets complaints (ACORN) on health care provider or supplier, government can do background check.
PG 711 Lines 8-14 The Secretary has broad powers to deny health care providers/ suppliers admittance into Health Care Exchange. Your doctor could be thrown out of business.
Pg 719-720 Sec 1637 ANY Doctor who orders durable medical equipment or home medical services MUST be enrolled in Medicare.
PG 722 Sec 1639 Government MANDATES doctors must have face-to-face with patient to certify patient for Home Health Services.
PG 724 23-25 PG 725 1-5 The same government certifications will apply to Medicaid and CHIP (your kids).
PG 724 Lines 16-22 Government reserves right to apply face-to-face certification for patient to ANY other health care service.
Pg 735 lines 16-25 For law enforcement, proposes the Secretary-HHS will give Attorney General access to ALL data.
PG 740-757 Government sets guidelines for subsidizing the uninsured (That's your tax dollars people).
Pg 757-762 Federal Government will shift burden of payments to Disproportionate Share Hospitals (DSH) to States. (Taxes)
Pg 763 1-8 No DS/EA hospitals will be paid unless they provide services without regard to national origin.
Pg 765 Sec 1711 Government will require Preventative Services including vaccines. (Choice?)
Pg 768 Sec 1713 Government - Nurse Home Visitation Services (Hello union paybacks).
Pg 769 11-14 Nurse Home Visit Services include economic self-sufficiency, employ adv, school-readiness.
Pg 769 3-5 Nurse Home Visit Services - "increasing birth intervals between pregnancies." Government ABORTIONS anyone?
Pg 770 SEC 1714 Federal Government mandates eligibility for State Family Planning Services. Abortion and State Sovereignty.
Pg 789-797 Government will set, mandate drug prices, controlling which drugs brought to market. Bye innovation.
Pgs 797-800 SEC. 1744 PAYMENTS for graduate medical education. The government will now control doctors' educations.
PG 801 Sec 1751 The government will decide which health care conditions will be paid. Can you say RATION!
Pg 810 SEC. 1759. Billing Agents, clearinghouses, etc. req. to register. Government takes over private payment system.
Pg 820-824 Sec 1801 Government will identify individuals ineligible for subsidies. Will access all personal financial information.
Pg 824-829 SEC. 1802. Government sets up Comparative Effectiveness Research Trust Fund. Another tax black hole.
PG 829-833 Government will impose a fee on ALL private health insurance plans including self-insured to pay for Trust Fund!
PG 835 11-13 fees imposed by government for Trust Fund shall be treated as if they were taxes.
Pg 838-840 Government will design and implement Home Visitation Program for families with young kids and families expecting kids.
PG 844-845 This Home Visitation Program includes government coming into your house and telling you how to parent!!!
Pg 859 Government will establish a Public Health Fund at a cost of $88,800,000,000. Yes that's billion.
Pg 865 The government will MANDATE the establishment of a National Health Service Corps.
PG 865 to 876 The NHS Corps is a program where doctors perform mandatory health care for two years for part loan repayment.
PG 876-892 The government takes over the education of our medical students and doctors.
PG 898 The government will establish a Public Health Workforce Corps to ensure supply of public health prof.
PG 898 The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of civilian employees of the U.S. as Secretary deems.
PG 898 The Public Health Workforce Corps shall consist of officers of Regular and Reserve Corps of Service.
PG 900 The Public Health Workforce Corps includes veterinarians.
PG 901 The Public Health Workforce Corps WILL include commissioned Regular and Reserve Officers. HC Draft?
PG 910 The government will develop, build, and run Public Health Training Centers.
PG 913-914 Government starts a health care affirmative action program thru guise of diversity scholarships.
PG 915 SEC. 2251. Government MANDDATES Cultural and linguistic competency training for health care professionals.
Pg 932 The Government will establish Preventative and Wellness Trust fund- initial cost of $30,800,000,000 billion.
PG 935 21-22 Government will identify specific goals & objectives for prevention & wellness activities. That means controlling YOU!!
PG 936 Government will develop "Healthy People and National Public Health Performance Standards" Tell me what to eat?
PG 942 Lines 22-25 More government? Offices of Surgeon General -Public Health Svc, Minority Health, Women's Health
PG 950- 980 BIG GOVERNMENT core pub health infrastructure including workforce capacity, lab systems, health info sys, etc.
PG 993 Government will establish school based health clinics. Your kids won't have a chance.
PG 994 School Based Health Clinic will be integrated into the school environment. Say government brainwash!
PG 1001 The government will establish a National Medical Device Registry. Will you be tracked?
Mathew D. Staver*
Founder and Chairman Dean and Professor of Law
Liberty Counsel Liberty University School of Law
Offices in Florida, Virginia and the District of Columbia, Lynchburg, Virginia
(800) 671-1776 - Telephone (434) 592-5300 - Telephone
LC.org
law.liberty.edu
*Licensed in Florida and the District of Columbia
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Disclaimer: The views of Chaplain Klingenschmitt, who was honorably but involuntarily discharged from the Navy in 2007 after facing court-martial for praying "in Jesus name" in uniform, (but was later vindicated by Congress), are his own personal views, not the views of any political party, government, or organization.
Someone to discredit. To attack back. Thank you.
klingenschmitt actually klingonshitslinger, is the worst
hypocrite to call himself a christian. he is the reason
the roman colosseums should be reestablished or daniel's
den for liars posing as christians should be opened. i
am not religious, but the god these assholes attribute
as "the almighty" is the one who if real, warned us
not to be fooled with these jackasses' bs.
Little balls of shit that kling on to the hairs of your ass and won't come out.
What are boogers that cling to your nose hairs called?
Then to pull them out you have to yank them out hair and all.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
They're the snot version of steel reinforced concrete.
We should all be contacting our representatives to tell them we support health care reform. We can tell them whether we like the current bill or not in the process. I support single payer universal care myself.
If somebody will write a succinct rebuttal to all this shit they are spreading we can spread the truth. I have a friend who forwards everything. Yesterday I got really mad when she sent me an obamacare email. But instead of sending back the inflamed email I first wrote I collected a bunch of facts and sent those to her instead. I hope she forwarded them to the same people she sent the pack of lies to.
Spread the truth! The anti-health care reform is reaching a fevered pitch. Those insurance companies are desperate! Visit
Where are Obama's instant response teams that he had during his election?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
can be found at www.pleasecutthecrap.com
Are they frickin serious?
This is both hilarious and tragic- because many uneducated dopes in this country will swallow this load of guff...
Notice how radical Christianity in America is interwoven with militant nationalism and capitalism. Jesus would be disgusted.
Capitalism is almost like a cult in this country, and to question any aspect of it is denounced by the right as heresy...
Doncha know?
I guess these Christians must have skipped those chapters in the Bible....
It's in the back somewhere...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
American Christians have been following the redacted version...
this speech and establishment of hate groups
is how socialism came to be. for all the things
that take a country from democracy to socialism,
this guy is pushing the dumb and dumber in a
direction they are stupid enough to follow.
the signs for a civil-class-tribal war are
very strong in this country now. let's hope
sanity prevails.
All of these arguments - Obama is a Muslim, Obama is an illegal alien, Obama is the antichrist - are put forth (actually screeched and bellowed) by ignorant, uneducated, low-IQ people who are overwhelmingly rural, white, and militantly christian.
These are the very dumbest people in America, and they are being manipulated by the corporations into unwittingly (very unwittingly) undermining our democracy and our future.
It's not really Democrats vs, republicans, or even urban vs. rural (though it's close to that). It's smart, informed people vs. unthinking, reactionary Limbaugh-loving losers.
Will this be the end of free America then? Brought down by its most ill-informed, uneducated, stupid citizens, who shill for corporate fascism and screech lies without ever realizing they are being duped? What an ignominious finale.
This is how it will end.
Abject Stupidity!
First and most obvious thing is to e-mail all the credit card companies advertised on his photo. Did everyone burst out laughing when that photo popped up? My stomach hurts, as do my cheeks.
Discover 1-800-DISCOVER (1-800-347-2683)
Mastercard Worldwide consumer advocate@mastercard.com
Visa globalmedia@visa.com
Discover does not show an e-mail address unless you register and log in, presumably with your account number. But they do give a toll free number.
For MC and Visa, I took the media e-mail addresses. Seemed appropriate.
That was a Photoshopped photo I found on another blog. That's not a real ad.
A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.
Very funny, though. Do you know why he keeps saying there are 52 Blue Dogs? While he may be completely delusional and has that annoying "always a victim" trait, I do not get why he wants to "send your faxes" to the 52 Blue Dogs and 100 Senators. Do you think he thinks certain people are his allies?
This is exactly who Obama needs to use an example when he has his press conference that I suggested. This antiAmerican and Newt and Palin. Obama can go through this list one by one and show exactly how these birther teabaggers are being punked and used. Just these three examples could take a half hour and really show what these muther fuckers are doing.
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Dear god, please protect me from those who believe in you.
This is what these birther teabaggers listen to. They actually believe this idiotic craziness.
1) EUTHANASIA is the first result of Obama's socialist government "health" care plan.
Wow....if he's not the perfect example of there being no god, I don't know what it would take. Surely their "loving god" would not allow someone with so much hate to continue to exist.............just sayin'........:)
.make that gay, old, and atheist...........heh.....they're prolly gettin' my gas mask ready as we speak.......:)
being struck down, does he? Nature and the Universe are not as kind as his God. This is going to be fun. Let's see who we can get to defend him after we attack him. Bets anyone?
Because they clearly reject Jesus's teachings of charity and compassion towards others...I'm an athiest- yet I think I understand jesus better than his cult members..
Gandhi was, by his own admission, a bit of a 'fan' of the teachings attributed to Jesus. He was asked once why he didn't then convert to Christianity. His reply was something along the lines of - I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.
The man hit the nail right on the head. I can only imagine what he'd think of today's version.
I walked out on the Catholic Church and Christianity in general. I couldn't stand the hypocrisy. And if these people with their minds so perverted are the so called "devout" ones, then how could I trust anything they tell me about scriptures.
The good chaplain grossly overestimates his flock's ability to follow his argument. It's way too wordy and it has too many multi-syllabic words. Fail.
Estamos hasta la madre, no mas sangre...
it will be translated into "trailer trash" in...5...4...3...2
..I swear I keep thinking it's Sen Lindsey Graham.
heh
...Thank you Susie! All else is relative. IMO
Study the symptoms not the virus...
DEAN OF LIBERTY UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF LAW:
No further consideration needed.
Let them know how you feel about their new friend.
Leesee
He perverts the clerical profession
And oily tits both the medical and the legal
What profession will conservatards pervert next?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I think ann colter already perverted the oldest profession.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
of perverting the teaching profession.
Obama is not a socialist, that fear is being exploited by demagogues who cater to the RICH. I wish more average Americans would get that through their thick skulls and support some good legislation. Good luck.
True liberals/progressives don't simply critique the elite, we actually fight them and win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbqv3MwwVd8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIRb8TigJ28
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
This is evil. Pure and simple. My oh my. Even Jebus would be pissed at this guy.
"It's not news that refusing necessary medical care to a child who dies gets you in trouble with the law"
[ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32252045/ns/us_ne... ]
Study the symptoms not the virus...
I can go through all day and pick apart Klingenschmitt's interpretation of the health care plan. Most of his views though are based upon his own speculative and very biased background.
I did have to chuckle though at Klingenschmitt's abortion interpretation. In it he states that under the Obama plan government will "exterminate" mostly African American babies. I find that funny especially since Obama, the one who will sign off on the health care plan, is a African American who, according to people like Klingenschmitt was taught yeas ago through Rev. Wright to hate "whitey". Why would an African American seek to eliminate his race over one that he is suppose to have been tought hate? I guess you have to be a right winger to understand that obvious contradiction.
Between this guy and Beck, apparently Obama only likes hispanics and asians.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
OK cannot pay for grandmas hip replacement, but will gladly without thought pay for a $50,000.00 sex change operation. Who is stupid enough to believe this crap?
They're being pretty insincere. After all, they know darn well we only want to euthanize Republican elderly, not the Democratic elderly. Sheeeesh!!!!!
Good point. I wonder how this fucking idiot missed this?
but that would be better for all mankind. LOL!
As to how long it takes them to figure out that it was only to euthanize the GOPers elderly?
I can't believe I just wrote that.
They'll think I'm serious. I need another glass of this very nice Pinot I'm consuming in vast quantities
Heh!!
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Cheers, mudshark!
So, even if it were true (ignoring the differences between transgendered and homosexuals) you'd think they would be all for it - after all a gay guy being turned female and then having sex with men would be "natural" LOL
http://www.thealders.net/blogs
Just call me Dazed & Confused
And they won't need abortions.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
If this so called "socialized" health care is as bad as they claim then why is it that people like Klingenschmitt have no problems with American military and veterans receiving this same kind of socialized medicine like they do now? I guess anything that the right wingers conider vile and evil is good enough for the troops but not good for them.
"The Health Choices Commissioner will choose your benefits for you. You have no choice!"
Christopher Hitchens - Religious Terrorism
[ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86u6K-pEkiM ](1:32)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Uhh, wtf is he trying to say?
Fred whose trying to dominate the Dallas Morning News blog regarding the question Is Medical Care a Moral Issue is now twisting in the wind. I've gone from being accused of being on the dole, to being a liberal, to not knowing God nor Bible, to polishing my halo, to being learned in scripture.
At one point I was accused of gibberish, although all I was doing to providing citations to scriptures I didn't quote, and the preamble of the Constitution.
Still no question about my sobriquet nor glyph.
No surprise, but he admitted to being a fundamentalist,
Fred puts the mental into fundamentalism.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Hey, YSB.
I'll have to get back on the Dallas Morning News to read up on Fred's missives. I've left him a couple my own, under a different moniker than what I use here.
Be curious what ole' Fred has to say!
good show!!
Wait a minute, it's coming to me...
Yes! Here it is! This is who he reminds me of.
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from the "60 Plus Association" on Discovery channel. One lie after another, and the senior-terrifying catch-phrase of "Don't pay for Health Care Reform on the Backs of our Seniors".
Of course, the "60 Plus Association" doesn't actually represent seniors, as all of it's funding comes from the Pharma industry. Big Shocker.
It's time to start playing hardball with these MF'ers.
It seems like all that's required is to run ads identifying who these groups are funding the other guys commercials.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I just love this part....
"Your tax-dollars will pay for preferential hiring of homosexual hospital administrators, who distribute $50,000 grants to gender-confused activists for unneeded elective surgery to mutilate their own genitals, (and force Christian doctors to perform it.)"
Well, damn, Reverend Gordon Klingenshit, I mean Klingenschmitt! If Christian doctors are going to be forced to perform the sex change operation, doesn't that mean they already know how to do a sex change operation, and doesn't that mean they trained how to do so because they wanted to do so?
In this country is too weak to fight these thugs. Our MSM peddles nothing but propaganda. The GOP are expert opposition fighters. They wrote the book on fear and smears. Almost every person I talk to is scared to death of health care reform.
The Dems hold the White House, Senate and House, yet look at where we are. Obama, Pelosi and Reid have done the most piss poor job of setting an agenda I have ever witnessed. The coordination to fight this health care reform has been inept and pathetic. For the most important issue of our generation to be squandered this way is heartbreaking.
Competent, strong and just health care reform could have put the Dems in charge for decades.
This mess may do them in and put the worst political party this country has ever seen back in power. Except they are meaner and crazier than ever before.
Jesus Christ where are the Bobby Kennedy's of today?
/rant
The GOPers might just defeat healthcare reform, but this isn't 1994. There is a majority of Americans that need healthcare reform, and in the end, polls still show that the GOPers are getting the blame for not getting it done. While a defeat on this issue would be tragic, it might just cost the GOP any chance at power for a very long time. Given their losses on the Sotomayor confirmation, they have dug themselves a very deep hole. Their only real hope is that the economy continues to struggle, and they can get their enablers in the MSM to blame it all on Obama.
that it could backfire big time and kill the GOP for good. But we've been down this road before and if this gets killed or becomes so watered down that it isn't going to do any good, the sheep may just put the GOP back in again. I shudder at the thought of them driving health care reform.
DETAILED ANALYSIS OF THE 1000 PAGE HEALTH CARE PLAN
This thing is all over the wing nut internet now. Has been for weeks.
Only the final bill will count. The 1000 pages are just one of those "run it up the flagpole and see who salutes" kind of thing. This is all becoming psychopathic. Dread is starting to set in for me.
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We're pretty much trapped in this insane asylum formerly known as the United States. If you want to leave you have to maneuver through a maze of mine fields and booby traps.
I used to be an American & my parents could not afford a health care plan. I moved to Canada in the 1960's, became a Canadian citizen and I love universal health care. Good & equal health care should be a right in America.
My Australian boyfriend and I have discussed the logistics of making things official, and it's sad but true to realize that it could be better financially for me to be jobless in Australia for however long than for him to come to the States - and largely because of the cost of health insurance.
It maddens me when I hear the argument that "the rest of the world comes to America for health care." Really? The RICH in the rest of the world come here. The extremely poor who are lucky enough to be given extraordinary care as a charitable effort come here. The people that live here? Not so much.
Congress has a public health care system run by the GOVT. Anyone against public health care in Congress is a hypocrite. Don't let them get away with it!
Jeez....I've been looking more at this guy, his web site, etc. What a freakin' wackaloon. What a freakin' nut case.
Shit like this just really blows my mind. I'm just speechless.
You've really got to wonder.
Truly fine debunking of these talking points here at http://pleasecutthecrap.typepad.com/
Scroll down to the 5th article entitled "NEW! Deconstructing the Right Wing Lies on the Health Insurance Bill." Don't miss this one. Really.
You beat me to it! I was just going to mention the "pleasecutthecrap" website to enlighten your Rethuglican friends and relatives.......really important debunking of all the crap the conservatives and corportations are spewing. I first heard about it on the Thom Hartmann Show--local to us here in Portland, OR, but broadcast nationwide in syndication daily from 9am-12pm (PDT). Well worth the time...he is brilliant and I learn something new every day. It's like a fun class in civics and history on your radio. The guy is awesome,has written about 30 books and is a progressive. Give it a try.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
there are just way too many looneys given 'airtime' in the States...I try to keep up, but it's like trying to get rid of ants in the yard.
Last week a friend of ours got some advise from his Catholic Priest to use with GOP Trolls and face-to-face health care protestors. I started using the same technique and its like putting a Crucifix in the face of PURE EVIL: these nuts disapper off the blog threads and walk away without a word. Ask these Christian Republicans to "explain the words of CHRIST in Matthew 25:41-46 where he (CHRIST) fortells GOD'S coming "JUDGEMENT OF THE NATIONS" as it relates to THIS CHRISTIAN nation and its citizen christians for NOT caring for the sick, the homeless, the widows, the oprhans, the naked, the less fortuante Then, explain how their comments, or actions, as the Christian Republican Party of God, relates to the words of the Christ, who they say lives in their hearts and rules their lives." They have NO REBUTTALS and their fires of democratic hate looses all its oxygen.
I believe in sepeartion of Church and State, but were fighting PURE EVIL from the uninformed, blind sheep who use their Christianity, their Christian Republican Party and the Bible as the basis for ALL OF THEIR ACTIONS. This takes their thunder. We are fighting their fires of hate and ignorance with THEIR OWN FIRE (CHRIST words of their condemnation) and they CANNOT justification their actions or protest. Actaully, we have memorized those scruptures...I used them with a local Baptist preachers/christian radio talk show host saturday; he walked way with his head dropped and DID NOT SAY A WORD!
If you really want to really zap them...tell them: "If you read Matthew 25:41-46 and cannot honestly admit that it is the heathen, demon-sinner, immoral, socialist, nazi Democrats who are fighting tooth and nail to adhere to the INSTRUCTIONS of Christ in caring for the sick, widows, orphans, naked, homeless, then your the REPOBATE to the INSTRUCIONS of Christ own words"
Well. Sounds like this guy needs to get out of the of the U.S. Navy. and into the Salvation Navy. I didn't have much use for chaplains when I was in the military. I saw a Navy Chaplain in Marine fatigues conduct a field mass and tell us all what to pray for. When he nearly ordered us to give thanks for our drill instructors he lost me.
Do NOT underestimate the lengths to which the insurance companies will go to protect their business model.
These lying, fake religious hate monguerers, are the terrorists who should have not been brought into this world to dirty the gene pool.
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