Reports: Eight CIA Agents Killed in Afghan Suicide Bombing
Can't find confirmation, but I heard this attack described as the single biggest loss to the the CIA since the Vietnam war:
(CNN) -- An attack by a suicide bomber at a military base in eastern Afghanistan on Wednesday killed eight Americans believed to be CIA employees, a senior U.S. official told CNN.
Also Wednesday, four Canadian soldiers and a Canadian journalist were killed when a roadside bomb hit their armored vehicle in southern Afghanistan, Canada's defense ministry said.
The suicide bombing happened at Forward Operating Base Chapman in Khost province, Afghanistan. The senior U.S. official who spoke to CNN said information indicates the bomber walked into a gym facility at the base and detonated a suicide vest. It is believed six Americans were wounded in addition to the eight killed. It's not known how the bomber got past security.
A U.S. military source said that FOB Chapman was originally a base for the Khost Provincial Construction Team, but the team left some time ago.
Authorities believe that perhaps the suicide bomber attacked just after a convoy was ending or beginning, which would account for high number of casualties.
Stuff happens in the War Zone
They could have been CIA torture experts or something heading to some torture camp.
these CIA mofos have been fucking with other people for so long. the list of people who've died as a result of CIA interventions is enormous. and on top of that, the American empire denies any responsibility for these deaths, using the excuse of "anti-terrorism" (or just operating covertly)
"Can't find confirmation, but I heard this attack described as the single biggest loss to the the CIA since the Vietnam war"
Reported loss.
Remember Navy SEALs, Special Forces and now Blackwater are de facto CIA operatives and have been since the 60s.
Securing central Asia is crucial to our empire's geopolitical and energy dominance in this century, or so we are told.
Gotta secure the last drops of that precious oil, and keep those 3 billion Chinese people in their place.
we'll be heading for your place.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I don't agree 100 with Alex jones but he is interviewing in this video an serous American Lawyer ,Mr Kurkell who saw the Nigerian Underwear Bomber bording with No passport in Amsterdam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdF7SX5DgBA
Why this is no big news?
They are there. They are on orders, and like them or hate them, the are Americans trying to do their job.
I can think of lots of noble things I could do to serve my "country". Murdering and torturing innocent people are not included. Overthrowing elected governments is not included either.
I guess the SS was under orders too? I'm not making a straight comparison, but you expect me to honor them simply because they are Americans?
They are enemies of real freedom and democracy. Do we need a clandestine intelligece service? Sure, it's vital. But not the out of control organization it is today.
I just prefer normal, feeling human beings who have the interests of the American people at heart. The culture at CIA ia anything but that.
I would like to think positively about the CIA, I just can't.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
goes around, I feel bad for their families.
Just wait 'til we surge those extra troops in country, all this blowing up and dying is sure to end. After all, why would an occupied country resent having more occupiers?
C'mon 'Merica, let's rally behind the policies of the neo-cons! Afghan wimmin is learning how to read!
to the Anti War Movement?
Died along with everything else this past decade I suppose.
Creamed
In
Afghanistan
. . bang bang shoot shoot
used to read earlier, 'Eight Civilians killed by suicide bomber'
Myself I don't consider CIA to be civvies
are usually afghani.
I wonder if it was a drone center or a torture center.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Counter-
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Counter
Intelligence
Assholes
Some stuff you can't make up!
Corrupt
International
Assholes
Some stuff you can't make up!
Coupe-
Instigating
Armageddonists
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/u...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"Creamed
In
Afghanistan"
They are still Americans.
That tone does not sit well with me. Sorry. I know those individuals were asking for it, but to say it that way makes you sound a little glib about the loss of human life.
As a veteran my only regret about this incident is that it wasn't US soldiers taking that trash out.
I have to agree with that statement fellow vet!
Well said!
it takes to get our troops back home, and if this is it, so be it.
I'm hoping someone 'upstairs' will get a clue one of these days
unfortunately, instead of being a reason to bring troops back home, this will be used to defend the surge
Afghan war claims more lives
Dec. 30: Life During Wartime: Rachel Maddow reports the troubling news of new deaths in Afghanistan including 8 American CIA agents, 4 Canadian soldiers and a Calgary-based journalist.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/34637...
Some stuff you can't make up!
lot of good that does.
as those who are supposed to be our leaders.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Revellers to usher in 2010 with fireworks and parties
Our "leaders" are not stupid. They have a different agenda and core values than we do.
that's not only stupid but very dangerous for them.
... would doubtless inform us that WE don't have the complete picture as THEY do, and that we, the unenlightened masses, should just STFU and let the people who really know what's going on run things.
The problem is, our country has often been run by those who 'really know what's going on' and it's been a constant train wreck.
and thanks to Rachel Maddow for acknowledging the Canadians who died.
I watched NBC News last night and Brian Williams didn't say one word about the five canuck casualties. I was disgusted.
Maybe the CIA people were in the process of waterboarding Afghans.
the bombers are family to those slain earlier. just like the yemenis who trained the Xmas bomber were probably innocent, but nevertheless, tortured by booshchainey, then let go. we are manufacturing enemies, then we go kneejerk shitfaced mad when anyone calls themselves Alkaseltzer and threatens us. we get more shitbag chainey speeches flooding the airwaves.
Some stuff you can't make up!
... al-Kaseltzer!
::: stern look and finger-waggling :::
You do realize of course, that you're not taking the fact that WE'RE AT WAR seriously.
they would've gotten more respect calling them al-Kapones or something like that
They have been torturing at Bagram Air Base for YEARS!!!!!!
It is Gitmo East!
the future looks pretty good. That, oddly enough, is the view of many Americans preparing for tonight's festivities and revelry.
within spitting distance of the WH.
Some stuff you can't make up!
... exceptin' obama, of course.
standards helps.
but Cheney seems to be pissing all over it
Somebody say again why Obama says we're in Afghanistan? Our stated mission? Our objectives? Our plans to prevent any more unbridled aggression against the free world by the Afghani government? Our plans to overtake the "bad government" and install a government that will enable Afghanis to join the civilized world?
I doubt if the CIA belongs in Afghanistan any more than the Girl Scouts.
Too bad Obama wasn't the man or president we needed at this time in history.
someone older, more mature.../s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvpUqjXiTqA
http://www.moonbattery.com/Dennis_Kucinich_Ra...
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=386JprXXU90
We're in
IraqAfghanistan so that theIraqiAfghani people can be free. We're providingPresident MalikiPresident Karzai the necessary time for him to build a strong government that can stand against theinsurgentsTaliban, and as they step up, we will stand down. Our strategy isto clear, hold, and buildfight them province by province, and our troops will only be thereuntil the Iraqi people no longer want them thereuntil 2013.Excellent!
... our foreign policy / war strategy wasn't a game of MadLibs, but there you have it.
We're in
Vietnam IraqAfghanistan so that theVietnamese IraqiAfghani people can be free. We're providingPresident Diem President MalikiPresident Karzai the necessary time for him to build a strong government that can stand against theViet Cong insurgentsTaliban, and as they step up, we will stand down. Our strategy is towin the hearts and minds clear, hold, and buildfight them province by province, and our troops will only be there untilthe Vietnamese people are freeIraqi people no longer want them there until 2013.The death of any (wo)man diminishes me.
Dismantle the NSA, the CIA, DHS the MICC, put a final end to the Perpetual War and its grim machinery.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Military-Industrial Corporate Complex?
Just checking my alphabet soup.
but these days that's almost the same thing as corporate.
but got deleted.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
from the republicans about security on the bases in Afghanistan?
Their talking points have not been approved prior to distribution.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Starting the party early or what?
Guess I'll go back to TP and try again later.
last night there will be no Tush Lumpboil post, lol
200K more troops.
Increase the defense budget.
Build more hospitals and schools.
Win over hearts and minds.
The will to win it.
If we are serious about doing all of these things, I am confident that we still won't win the war in Afghanistan.
... we know the only difference between us and the Soviet Union in the 1980's was that they lacked the military force, budget, and political will.
One of these days, maybe we'll figure out that our meddling always comes home to roost. Both Iran and Afghanistan are situations arising out of our superior knowledge and mandate to make the world safe for
a cold beer and NASCARDemocracy.And a bird in the hand
Leads to a crappy palm.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
... after having two of the Bush.
if they were really serious about it they would have put 600,000 in right at the start, but the brass was poo pooed by Rummy. Too late now, we're considered occupiers.
plan for Vietnam. Never should have had a Republican Secretary of Defense. Should have sent Nixon to jail where he belonged. Wiretapped King instead of sacked Hoover.
Just a third term for Ike.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
with Turkey, were they thinking this would go as easy? I don't know what the hell they were thinking.
in your title you refer to "CIA agents", but note that a CIA agent is not the same thing as a CIA officer. a case officer (american CIA employee) runs agents (foreign asset).
and from what i have gathered, it sounds like those killed were actually case officers, not agents... either way, it is prob safest to refer to them as 'people employed by the CIA'
..they will come.
Ron Paul a little bit!
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I thought it was, "If we bomb them, we will come."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
as they wipe off their legs
Al-Qaeda blows up Al-Ciada
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The foriegn press is reporting the UN investigating an incident three days ago where 10 locals, mostly kids, were killed in the northern part of the country.
The UN investigation is focusing on perhaps Taliban being the killers but Karzai has accused "foriegners". NATO has even admitted that was the case but that they were not NATO tropps but hired civilians (read "merceneries") on a "sanctioned" mission who fired in "self defense".
Not a peep about this from the main stream media. I havent seen Maddow or Olberman in a while so don't know about them.
If WE were occupied and the uniformed foriengn troops hole up in their bases and send out ununiformed but heavily armed partols that start killing OUR kids right on the street, what do you think OUR reaction would be?
our response to 9/11, invade a different country than the ones responsible.
That reminds me of a revelation I had recently.
Most of life is counter-intuitive. So why did I spend all that money on tuition?
We must have missed the declaration of war against you chaps...
Do I have to get up off the couch?
Just steer the Predator towards the target with your Nintendo Wii
I once drew a cartoon over 20 years ago, a hobby of mine, where a general was holding a news conference.
General: No gentleman, WWIII is not going well, we blapped when we should've bleeped, then we ran out of quarters.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
use your iPhone. Call Bombs-R-Us. Order a 1000 pound bunker buster. Download the "Guide Your Missle" app at iTunes Store ($1.99). Load up the gps. Let 'er rip. Collateral damage extra.
the skinner pigeon bomb back into budget--cheaper than a smart missile, producing the same amount of dead civilians, i mean collateral damage.
Not a big deal , the war profiteers and Wall Street are still raking in the money that's the bottom line now isn't it ?
...have all the money the money they want...(because they print it)
This is about control of the world.
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I realize we're having fun with the subject
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_12E1EN6fs
But we have to remember these were Americans killed
It looks like we're celebrating that.
Leave that to the republicans, because you know they will
"Obama doesn't know how to run a war or intelligence."
And personally I think we need more intelligence in the world
Less commando squads, unless it's for limited warfare so some farm kid from Padunk is not expected to do what takes a trained killer,
And of course more analysis of the raw intelligence
So we have none of this:
http://www.hulu.com/watch/17611/the-simpsons-...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I have little sympathy for dead CIA agents. Mayvbe it's payback for torture, murder, ovethrowing democratically elected governments, commiting treason against the American people, etc. etc. etc.
I'm sorry for their families, but otherwise...
Oh well. Shit happens.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
We know as an agency that is so, but not as individuals.
Ultimately the responsibility is boosh, who even though he was appointed by a conservative activist court, was president of the US
So by your reasoning we are all liable as a nation
And all that does is deflect blame from those who made these decisions.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
... are you serious? That is some bloody rape train you just ran on logic there lad...
While one can be anti-war, where is it written that one must be okay with death, however it comes, and to whomever?
Since the War in Iraq is wrong, do we cheer the death of soldiers, who are receiving payback for policies that they had nothing to do with, but enforce on a daily basis? While these people may or may not have to answer for actions taken as individuals, how can we judge them to have been party to these other actions you ascribe to them?
By that logic, we can paint any member of the armed forces with Abu Ghraib, any member of the UN with the oil for food scandal, or any member of the NYPD after the Diallo case. This is illogical, and, in a time of death and sorrow, downright cruel.
made of volunteers, not conscripts.
Your post is rather dishonest... but wanting to have it all both ways is something some Americans excel at: illegally occupying a country, and at the same time play the victim.
It is dishonest. Laval thinks that the CIA agents that murder and torture innocent people are just like any army private or UN worker.
They are not.
They are not simply innocent individuals serving a cause. They have an ideology and they are enforcing it through their own brand of terror. I'm not cheering for anything. I just have no sympathy for ruthless killers who lie to me and you every day.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
CIA employees do not subscribe to an "ideology" - they follow the whims of the President, whom ever that may be.
Nobody gets drafted into the CIA. Nobody joins for college money. They may take orders but that's like saying no one in the SS had an ideolgy. They were just politically-neutral folks who took orders from Hitler. They do it out of conviction that they are right. Not because they were simply ordered to do it.
You're telling me that CIA torturers don't believe in what they're doing? Funny, you should read the accounts of FBI staff who related the attitudes they saw in the CIA interrogators. Those "employees" believe the whole Bush-Cheney fantasy and enjoy carrying out violations of human rights.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
Funny, The UN examples and NYPD examples seemed rather appropos, then, to take out the volunteer status of the armed forces. Either way you slice it, this is cheering death in some small way.
You know nothing of my own politics or views on war, yet my dislike of people expressing satisfaction in the death of another is enough to pigeonhole me as dishonest?
It's because you apply a double standard. American = GOOD. This is why the world hates us and yet we can't understand why.
It's because we're so damn arrogant about our position, so convinced of our cause that we are blind.
We refuse to see that there are bad people in our government who lie, murder, and torture in our name. Supposedly to protect us, but more often to some selfish corporate end.
The CIA has a long history of crimes. It's members are willing participants.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
"civilian contractors" is the new "mercenaries" for you guys now? How exactly does an innocent civilian end up in the middle of a war theatre half a world away from their home?
after I remembered the Dem Now! (Scahill) story that the Mercs are working directly for the CIA now, those were Xe employees.
Suicide bomber equals the ultimate smart bomb.
Not that drone missile and infrared guided
garbage.
Unfortunately, the eight CIA agents are considered
collateral damage by the US government like the
civilians killed "by accident" in Iraq and
Afghanistan and drones in Pakistans.
Palestinians, Pakistanis and Iraqis probably
consider the victims killed by the planes
on 9-11 as "collateral damage".
The US government, Pentagon and Defense
Department should think outside the box
like Al Qaeda. The 9-11 bombers with $ 20
in box cutters and imagination seemed to
have done more damage to America than the
$ 750 billion spends in so called defense
yearly in the US not counting the 2 billion
spent in Iraq and unknown amount in
Afghanistan.
The most effective and widely used killing machine-The AK-47 uses bullets that cost 13 cents a piece.
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
of them. I'll just bet that cheney was praying she was.
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