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(h/t Heather.)

One of the things I learned early on in my journalism career is that words have power. They also have consequences. Fortunately, I have a conscience. I credit my Catholic upbringing for that.

I found so much to admire in the concepts of social justice and compassion with which I was raised, and even though I'm not longer a Catholic, I still take exception to the way these so-called Catholics distort the faith.

It infuriates me when I see people like these distort and twist the truth about healthcare reform - for what reason? I mean, they're pretty much the scrubs of the right wing, a bunch of has-beens and wannabes. Do they do it to feed their egos? To keep the cocktail-party invitations flowing? Let's look at this group of "moral" leaders who are fighting so desperately to save the elderly from socialist liberal euthanasia.

It's mostly older people who watch "The McLaughlin Group," I think, so the antics of these clowns mostly fly below the radar - just like talk radio.

John McLaughlin is the former Jesuit priest who cared so deeply about God, he quit the order rather than give up his speechwriting gig with Richard Nixon.

Pat Buchanan, a good friend of McLaughlin's and the Nixon speechwriter who got him the job, is a product of Jesuit schools and presents himself as a Catholic so conservative, he still goes to the Latin Mass. He has occasional lapses in which he actually tells the truth, but these are so few and far between, it's not worth mentioning. Pat is generally is so willing to distort reality, it's a given. If Pat vehemently tells you the sky is blue, stick your head out the window and check.

Monica Crowley, another Nixon employee, is a Fox News "analyst" - i.e. someone paid to twist and mold the truth into something to inflames passions against Democrats. (By the way, her sister, Dr. Jocelyn Crowley, is married to Hannity's former co-host, Alan Colmes.) Apparently she's pretty good at distorting truth:

Crowley was accused of plagiarism in 1999 for an article she authored titled "The Day Nixon Said Goodbye" that appeared in the The Wall Street Journal. After accusations of plagiarism from at least one reader, an acknowledgement of "striking similarities" between Crowley's article and an article by Paul Johnson titled "In Praise of Richard Nixon" in the October 1988 issue of Commentary Magazine was published. A Journal editor stated, "Had we known of the parallels, we would not have published the article."

Crowley acknowledged the similarity between the pieces, and said "there are clear similarities in the language. I have wracked my brain, and I can honestly tell you that I have not read [Johnson's article]."

An article in Slate Magazine detailed five specific passages in Crowley's article that contained identical language and phraseology to Johnson's piece, and concluded that "it just isn't possible for Crowley not to have read Johnson's article."

There is something called "The Ten Commandments," and Christians generally agree that it's important. John, Pat, Monica and their ilk simply ignore any of those commandments that are politically inconvenient ("Thou shalt not bear false witness") or they apply them selectively ("Thou shalt not kill" only applies to fetuses, and not Iraqi children). They dig out obscure parts of the Old Testament they insist mean Jesus condemned gay people, and yet they still eat shrimp and lobster - condemned in the same book of the Bible.

We already know they will do or say anything that will further their political cause and erode ours.

So spare me the wide eyes and crocodile tears. No one's suggesting we off old people, and they know it. They're just so shameless and cynical, they couldn't resist.

Everyone knows if liberals really believed in killing people when they're no longer productive, people like McLaughlin and Buchanan wouldn't be here.

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CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

and they are now the first people MSM brings up to the mike.


Some stuff you can't make up!

RickMassimo's picture

... but there is a TV show with not one, not two, but THREE former employees of the Nixon White House discussing the issues of the day.

I just had to type that out loud.

Are we supposed to, like, listen to them? As if they know what they're talking about?

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

noxin started this hatefest with his "silent majority" speech. he openned the door to white xenophobia and hatred and created a home in the repuglyKKKan party for the former dixiecrats.


Some stuff you can't make up!

It was Nixon who helped this Health care nightmare come to be:

http://www.kaiserthrive.org/about-kaiser/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmHTte8jRLk

How appropriate that we hash up these gargoyles to spread their lies to support their corporate masters...

Thanks guys...

The irony is just too rich that the public doesn't even recognize that the same immoral gobs of puss are still festering and releasing their poisons on the public.

Fundies believe in faith, not works. So as long as they believe in Jesus they can cheat, lie and steal and they'll still get their heavenly reward. Why bother being moral if every corrupt act you do can be forgiven? That's why I have a policy of never trusting a fundy.

They will rot in their hell for eternity.

reborn in prisons. Here is a direct quote from one that I will never forget, "God loves me, God knows me, God knows everything I will ever do, and he forgives me." No mention of having to repent. And I just thought the guy who said this to me was stupid.

KWillow's picture

First: These people are filled with rage. Who knows why? The reason is probably different for each individual. Rage is supposed to be an infrequent "flight or fight" emotion, not one experienced all the time. Raging at someone or something day after day is as useful as drinking salt water. However, The Conservative Elite don't care about why, all they want to do is harness the rage and direct it at their opponents. They've been doing it very well for decades. It's working now.

The second is fear, plus greed. They either think they will gain something, or fear they will loose money if everybody gets health care.

Stupidity helps the Conservative Cause, but the people in charge of the "Big Lie" and "Hate in the Name of God" are pretty smart. At least they are good at propaganda. They seem pretty bad at running things, unless they want chaos, poverty and War to afflict our country all the time.

ron's picture

be that good at propaganda if the media wasn't complicit in spreading it and gave as much air time and tv time to the progressives.

savannah43's picture

each other, they would not fear losing money, or anything else. Our society is doomed to fail now that the seeds of greed and selfishness have grown and bloomed. An experiment that has failed. I am thinking about France or Iceland. How about you?

Notice that they rarely, if ever, actually quote from the New Testament: all that turning the other cheek, loving thy neighbor and other socialist claptrap is indeed uncomfortable. So they fudge: quick lip service to Jesus then cite "God", that stern tasksmaster from the Old Testament, who wasn't adverse to wiping out whole communities that he felt were out of line.

These people and their ilk are sick and Obama needs to address this head on!!

fellowvoyager's picture

the obama administration wasn't being such a sop to the business interests and were serious about a single-payer public option.

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

the DLC / DSCC / DCCC is doing what they set out to do under the clinton administration - the friendliest republican presidency ever.


Some stuff you can't make up!

Hechicera's picture

You know people who read. Thanks for that link.

Nameless Cynic's picture

John McLaughlin is the former Jesuit priest who cared so deeply about God, he quit the order rather than give up his speechwriting gig with Richard Nixon.

Well, if you know the history of the Jesuits, this would just make him even more old-school than Buchanan; the difference is, the midieval Jesuits wouldn't bother to quit the order while they were influencing local politics.

and yet they still eat shrimp and lobster - condemned in the same book of the Bible.

The excuse there is that New Testament cancelled the dietary laws: "Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man." (Matthew 15:11 - of course, this ignores Matt 5:17-19, where Jesus upheld all the Hebrew codes, but let's not get into that.)

But that argument ignores all the other laws that the Christians choose to ignore. Like Leviticus 20:9 - you should kill teenagers who talk back to their parents.

For that matter, all of Leviticus 20 is a killer. Literally in some cases; in others, the violator is left either childless or shunned: adultery, or marrying your mother-in-law or daughter-in-law, are apparently capital offenses; weirdly, having sex with your sister just gets you shunned.

A lot of Leviticus 19 is pretty straight-forward, Ten-Commandments-like stuff, but there are a few exceptions: not planting your field with two different seeds won’t come up a lot for the average city-dweller, but have you worn a cotton-poly shirt? It's forbidden (Lev 19:19). Haircuts and shaving are right out (Lev 19:27), as are tattoos (Lev 19:28), astrology (Lev 19:26) and fortune tellers (Lev 19:31).

While you’re at Leviticus 19, please note that you are allowed to have sex with another man’s slave, but you have to sacrifice a ram to do it. (Lev 19:20-22).

These Christians really need to read their Bibles a little closer.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

You've got to be kidding me. I didn't know that.

I went to a Jesuit high school....and they produced guys like McLaughable????

Wow. I don't know anything about his history, so I'll have to investigate it.

Thanks for the info, NC and Susie....

Stellar Moose's picture

Men must buy their rape victims for 50 shekels. I wonder if the SBC has worked out an exchange rate for that.

project's picture

republicanism is a mental illness!
Have you ever seen people any place, more sick then these republicans? I can barely stomach seeing these slime, slinging their lying bullshit around, acting like they are speaking the truth, when thay know they are lying!

Amazing what Republicans will do to put words in Jesus' mouth! They really ignore about the importance of healing the sick. Such radical Christianity has become such a farce!

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

Susie,

Your first paragraph has a word that means everything...."conscience." I was raised a Catholic as well, along with 7 brothers and sisters....none of us practice any more (neither do our parents)....but we still retain some important things such as having a conscience, being tolerant of those who might be different than us, and being very giving to those who might be less fortunate than us.

I often wonder about things like religion and conservatives and Republicans. I often think that those of us who are not "religious" are more in fact like Jesus and the way Christians ought to be. I just do not understand how these so-called "Christians" really act the way they do.

Well, enough of the waxing philosophical....

These damned liars like Palin, Beck, Hannity, Buchanan, Gingrich, etc. have no conscience at all. They are hypocrites; they will rot in hell.

This is very depressing.

Yes Jack it is very depressing that these people are taken so seriously. I could not agree with you more!

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

Thanks, Captain.

With all of the BS going on, this past week has been one the most depressing for me in a long while.

I just cannot understand how people can lie like this in an effort to kill Obama's health care plan. If they really do not like it, for pete's sake, state their case with facts, but don't lie about it.

Sickening.

One last thing; A week ago right after Malkin was on a Sunday show these tea bagger birthers hit their first town hall meetings and it was on the news that I listen to on Monday night. I can't describe the depression I was in. It has been a good outlet here at C+L and it looks like things are going to come around. IT also seems like real people are having none of the bull shit. And it has also made me really think about what can be done and who needs to do things. I really think that the administration has people who read these comments. A lot of the things I have been saying are being implemented. I have no idea if there are thousands of people saying the same thing or not. I do know that there are a lot of people here who read this stuff and we keep ourselves on track. I get a lot of inspiration from a lot of people here. Jack, don't get down get active.

savannah43's picture

Join Fox Nation and screw with the idiots.

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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What...
... Go be a troll?

:)


Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

Kreskin's picture

That is an excellent idea !

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

I'm trying not to get down, so I was just quite active with Newt Gingrich.

and, Savannah and Embittered....I chose not to be a troll,and I went directly to the source....

This is the email I just sent to Gingrich....

"Gingrich,

I saw that you said this past weekend something to the effect that there are people who believe in euthanasia, and that is part of your argument for sanctioning Palin's lies about the Obama plan.

There are people who believe in the KKK; there are people who believe that the world will end in 2012; there are people who believe that Bush orchestrated 911 (which I am sure you don't believe in); there are people who believe all sorts of things.

Why are you defending Palin's lies???? You have no conscience, sir. I can understand that you disagree with the health plan; I cannot understand why people like you and Palin LIE.

I was raised a Catholic (like I think you now are, after having converted.) Although I no longer practice, I still retain some things I learned as a Catholic. One of those things is do not lie. One of those things I have retained is a conscience. You, sir, have no conscience. You, sir, are a liar.

About 15 years ago, I ran into someone in a bar in St. Louis who claimed to be a cousin of yours. In fact, his driver's license indicated that he was indeed a "Gingrich."

That person I met at Tucker's bar and restaurant in St. Louis said that you were an asshole. If this guy really was a cousin of yours, then one of your own relatives has not lied; he has told the truth.

savannah43's picture

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General Jack D. Ripper's picture

Thanks, Savannah.

I normally don't do things like this, but this past week has gotten me so infuriated and depressed that I just had to send out something like this.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

By the way, Captain....I do get an awful lot of inspiration from C&L, as well as people like you who post here.

Thanks again.

religion? ewwww.

Mugsy's picture

Just dropped by and noticed the updated player that now correctly shows the video length. Big thx. :)


* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.

To uphold the tradition of the spanish inquisition
And preempt your decision by forcing your confession
Now let that be a lesson

Who do you think you’re messin’ with?

Tom_Hussein_Paine's picture

last line:
Everyone knows if liberals really believed in killing people when they're no longer productive, people like McLaughlin and Buchanan wouldn't be here.

Brilliant.

Mugsy's picture

Every time I hear Buchanan say something outrageous (most notably, his racists rants), he raises the bar and clears it with room to spare.

Listen again to his argument. In Pat's world, a government bureaucrat actually comes to your home and recommends "killing yourself".

As Elenor points out, the provisions simply pays when a patient visits a doctor or hospice work for counseling.

The two events bare NO similarity whatsoever, but that doesn't seem to matter.

Might I add one more point? Even if Pat's position were true, the Supreme Court would kill it in a heartbeat.


* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.

Evet's picture

in exploiting it's citizens to make more money and to gain more control over it's people. Much how the fascist regime of the Nazi Party used it's beliefs, war, and genocide to brainwash it's followers and make the economy of Germany "flourish" once again.

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture

It's...

LIE-CHEAT-STEELE
THE "NEW" G(no)P

:)


Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

Almost comical to listen to the Repubs jump on this one issue. Please everyone Repugs are against any form of Government partaking in any thing. They want the private-side to get into every service. Well Bush brought into the Iraq war a Company that provided seminary BLACKWATER. Bushes father, Cheney and all their friends had stock in that company . They made a fortune. We all know the great job these mercinary bastards did. Run around the country shooting up the general population. These guys are a band of rogoues without hearts and a love of killing

Sweet, huh?

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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Q U E S T I O N:

Why does the G(no)P hate the idea of me having AFFORDABLE health care?

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

ron's picture

Imagine what that could do for the economy. and the rest of the small businesses.

Embittered Angry Anti-Republicrat Max-Hussein-1's picture
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I know...
... Why does the G(no)P hate the economy, and small business?

p.s.

If China can do it...
... WHY NOT THE U.S.A.?

China plans universal health care
By Edward Wong
Published: Thursday, January 22, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/world/asia/...

BEIJING — China announced that it intended to spend $123 billion by 2011 to establish universal health care for the country's 1.3 billion people.

The plan was passed Wednesday at a session of the State Council, the Chinese cabinet. Prime Minister Wen Jiabao presided.

Xinhua, the state news agency, said the authorities would "take measures within three years to provide basic medical security to all Chinese in urban and rural areas, improve the quality of medical services and make medical services more accessible and affordable for ordinary people."

Providing universal health care is seen by some economists as a way to stimulate domestic spending during the current economic downturn. The Chinese have a high savings rate, and one of the reasons usually cited is their concern about possible medical expenses.

(continued)

WE'RE #37
WE'RE #37
WE'RE ...
...Moving onto #38!

What ever happened to...
... We're #1!?

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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.

Abbybwood's picture

!


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

proudlyprogressive's picture

Pretend you are in the 'waybackmachine' and you are sitting in on a conference with President Lincoln. You are a white, carpetbagger posing as a legitimate mini-corporation and the whole room you are in is filled with like-minded people trying to sway Pres. Lincoln into the Civil War. You whine to the president, 'We just can't compete with slavery' whine, not that you, the white carpetbagger give a damn.

Susie Madrak's picture

And they don't want the Democrats to get the credit. After all, government is bad!


A former award-winning journalist and lifelong class warrior, keeping a jaundiced eye on the Washington elite.

mudshark's picture

When the GOP had all three branches of govt', why didn't they do anything?
Including the Clinton admin, the GOP did nothing about healthcare in the last 15 years. The topic of privatized Social Security came up.
Someone mentioned that if SS would have been privatized everyone who would have bought that bullshit would have nothing right now.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

cybergal619's picture

. . . as long as it's their choice. If it's YOUR (read: DFH librul) choice, no freakin way.

That Mick Piobr's picture

Thank-you; I didn't know that about McLaughable.

Hey Mick where have you been? Missed your commentary.

That Mick Piobr's picture

:}

Pete Seattle's picture
QFT

"Everyone knows if liberals really believed in killing people when they're no longer productive, people like McLaughlin and Buchanan wouldn't be here."

great line.

mudshark's picture

It was full by the time I got there. It started at 6. I got there around 5:20. It's not far from my house.
Mostly pro healthcare reform folks.
About 1/4 of them anti. This is outside. Probably around 100 people outside.
A little shouting. Not much. People would yell Healthcare Now!
Followed by a loud NO!. Hey whaddya do?
No Violence. Monterey is a pretty mellow place. At least no violence that I saw. I saw these people with a sign that said"Millionaires against Healthcare reform" And the other one said" Keep the Govt out of my Medicare". I was standing there looking at these people, and people were walking up to them and agreeing with them. When they all left, I walked up to them and said, This is a joke right? They laughed and said that I was the first one to get it. I said cool, I guess I have an IQ higher than a house plant.
Then some teabagger walks up and says," I completely agree".
Well, They just looked at me and shook their heads.

Ok, So I go into the crowd. I come across this guy who's starting to yell a bunch of bullshit. This other guy asks him why he's so set against it. He says he doesn't want the govt telling him when he has to die.( NO Shit. I kid you not).
I say to him, if your talking about this so called" Death Panel" you've been misinformed. It applies to a DNR. I explain to him it's a Do Not Resuscitate clause. That exists today. He still says he doesn't want to have the govt' tell him when he has to die. I tell him it's a choice, you don't have to except it. You can turn it down.

Then he gets on about socialist medicine.
The other guy who was in this conversation says it would be like Medicare. At this point I look over my shoulder and see about 5 GOPers staring at me. I ignore them. Then I tell this guy that it would be like Medicare or what I get with the VA. The guy kinda shut up at that point. And so did those other guys behind me.

So, I move to this woman who had a clip board.
She's really uptight. She's pointing to this clip board saying " See, It's written Right Here!"
Just more bullshit. I gave it a glance, but it was all bullshit. I ask her where she got this stuff? She says a web site. I say which one? She says this is the bill. It's from the govt'.
I say can I see that? I'm looking for an address on this thing. I say where did this come from? She again says from a web site that had the bill on it. By now other people are gathering around her and calling her out on her bullshit. I say where's the address? If this is from the gov't? It should have www.US.Gov or something similar on it.
She scoffs at me.
We got to talking about Medicare and the VA. For some reason, she kept going on about not being able to get the VA benefits.
I finally said to her it's because you didn't serve and your not a Vet so you're not eligible for the VA.
Well, That's when Obama is a Communist comes out.
I looked at her straight in the eye and said, And He's a Secret Muslim too! She says You're Right!.

That's when I lost it. I laughed in her face. I couldn't help it.
I walked way laughing.

All in all, it was pretty civil from what I could tell. I was listening to the Q&A on the radio. Farr seemed nervous. A little shaky. But he was getting better as it went on.
There were about 3 teabaggers there. Proudly wearing the red tbag shirts. But for the most part. It was civil. So Far

I never thought I'd actually witness that kind of stupidity.
So, they scheduled another townhall meeting to be announced at a later date. Hopefully this next one will be in a larger venue.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

boocilla69's picture

Please be careful. You never know when a true crazy is lurking.
Just stunning that the woman you were talking to thought she should have VA benefits without ever serving. The stupid is abundant, like bacteria.

Hey Muddy you are a hero. You went and did it. I can't put into words how proud I am that one of our own went and did this. It sounds like you reacted perfectly. Engage and inform and laugh in their faces. Who knows, you may have changed that one person's mind. Granted Monterrey is not bum fuck Kansas but I think it is possible to inform even the most difficult ones. Thanks so much for the report!

mudshark's picture

To be honest I had second thoughts about going.
But I said to myself just go do it. I wanted to go.
But the procrastinator in me was starting to win.
So, I said F*** IT! Just Do It!
So I got in my truck and rolled on down there.
Did I change anyone's mind? No. I seriously doubt it.
The police were super cool . They thought it was great. They were all smiles. I think they were pleased to see people actually taking part in the process . As for the wrong wingers. If I installed a tiny bit of doubt in anyone of their minds, it was worth it.
And even if I didn't it was still worth it to show them that they aren't the only ones willing to show up at these things.
This is a fight. The wrong wingers were enjoying being the larger number. From what I saw, That's no longer the case.
I recommend going to these things. Even if you can't get in. Just being there tells them something.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

lordkoos's picture

is that there is a percentage of the public who are ignorant enough to believe this crap.

These people represent the privileged ignorant few!


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

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capncapcha's picture

and paranoia of the government. but everyone that i know with medicare loves it . the government is already involved in these areas in which people are most concerned so i don't see how the fear is justified.

there seems to be some idea circulating among christian circles similar to palin's death panel comment (maybe this is where she got it from), i over heard it at a gathering two weeks ago. that what will come to be will be like that episode of twilight zone 'the obsolete man' in which a librarian faces a panel where he has to justify his necessity to society or be put to death.

i think christians have vivid imaginations.

mudshark's picture

He was carrying a sign that said Jesus was a socialist.
I said," Didn't Jesus throw out the merchants out of the temple?"
Well, the lady next to him got seriously offended by my remark.
I asked, " I wonder how Jesus would feel about the ins companies?
That lady got steaming mad. If looks could kill, I'd be a dead man right now. So, I just moved right along. Smiling all the way.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

jesus isn't on a list of approved physicians

and they don't cover holistic medicine ;)

i say get your leprosy treated in canada

Spaghetti Monster's picture

... and the Catholic church in particular are right up there with the "best of them" when it comes to killing and murdering innocent people. So I'm sure "god" will forgive Buchanan and Crowley for a few little "white lies"!

We all laugh at Jay Leno's Jay Walking... we are now seeing it, at it's epitome of exploitation of the utterly stupid people who should not be allowed to breed... we see it up front and personal... Jay... it's not funny anymore.

I can not imagine how anybody who could just count to the number of appendages on their body could believe the government is writing a bill to euthanizes it's senior citizens?

I'm really getting a better insight in how Hitler got to power.

iraqconcilable's picture

I think Spencer Tracy said it best: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_DQUAuNUvw

nom de plume's picture

sorry for double posting
(Sorry, I meant to delete just one. SiteMonitor)

nom de plume's picture

I copied it when it froze in posting the first one :-)

My "genius worth re-posting post" said:

Anyone that suggests that there is anything in the bill that would euthanize ANYONE for ANY reason is either a liar or an idiot.

When talking to people who try to tell me that euthanasia is in the bill I ask "are you a liar or an idiot? Because there is no such thing in the bill. Therefore you are one or the other." It's confrontational, but true. It's just true.

Kreskin's picture

Absolutely it's just true . The gullible simpletons who actually believe this stuff apparently have zero ability to reason or use logic , sincere as can be some of them but brains the size of a pea . If they weren't such assholes I'd feel sorry for them .

mudshark's picture

What is your conceptual, continuity?

What I would like to know is this- Right wingers slam Obama for abusing his authority and being a reckless spender.

Then WHY then did the right support Bush's expansion of powers, and his out of control spending- and attack anyone who questioned bush's policies?

Any time a right winger slams Obama, we need to remind them of their support for Bush...

That Mick Piobr's picture

They have been sold on the idea that this is just another football game.

They do not care about addressing problems. They want their team to "win."

Kreskin's picture

That wouldn't phase the dumb asses Tom S. ,the stupid pucks would probably vote for Bush all over again if they could .I've been up and down like a yo yo watching the right wing Nazi / brown shirt machine in action and the pathetic MSM giving life to their lies and scare tactics but I think that those A holes have gone a bit too far this time and even some of the simpletons are wising up , I have a feeling this will blow over and that their tactics will back fire on them , just give it another month .

left of center's picture

Four against One, thats the kinds of odds bullies love. there is no way that any one of them would sit down, one on one, and try to argue their bullshit. the only way is for them to win this arguement is to talk over and be louder than anyone for this bill. Hey, look how loud i'm talking, i must be right (or completely full of shit).

It is hard to free fools from the chains they revere

Voltaire


every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .

bilhelm-x's picture

Wow, what a regressive site! UFB! Is the moral majority the web comment police now? Sheesh!

"White House Frustrated, Confused By Palin, Limbaugh And Hannity"

pathological liar:
noun:
an individual who habitually tells lies so exaggerated or bizarre that they are suggestive of mental disorder

They're dealing with people that by definition are pathological liars, how can they possibly be confused by this. All three should be in treatment, their collective grasp of reality is vague at best and dangerous at worst.

rodeored's picture

http://www.whitehouse.gov/realitycheck/?e=10&...

Here's something I would add to the white house message:
If the right wing noise machine has to make up so many lies, it must mean they can't find anything real to oppose.

Another reason this is insane is that whoever would put such a thing in a bill would be voted out of office in a New York second. And guess what? I just read that it was Susan Collins who put the end-of-life consultations in the healthcare bill which precipitated the death panels talk.

Monica's another bleached blonde right wing talkie. Why isn't she on FOX with the other bleach blonde right wing shills?

If were weren't bogged down in 2 expensive Republican wars for big oil, the defense contractors, Hallibuton and the other war profiteers, we could afford health care for every American but the last thing Republicans want is our tax dollars being used to help us instead of being used to subsidize the corporate elite and CEO's.

I'm an old fart and watch regularly. It's a trip down memory lane to hear dinosaurs like Buchanan and McLaughlin bloviate; a return to the good old red-baiting cold war days. Being lectured by McLaughlin, a two time loser who took a vow of celibacy to the god then broke it, and then took a vow of marital fidelity to the god and broke it, on morals is the highlight of my week. To not love the irony is to believe that Jonathan Swift wrote a cook book. The younger crop is a little disappointing though. Listening to Rich Lowery talk is like listening to Monica Crowley...except with a smaller dick. Jack Germond left because he couldn't stand John and went to Inside Washington where health issues and a dislike for Krauthammer got him out of there. For the life of me I still cannot understand why Elinore Clift hangs in there, except perhaps that she is paid very very well.

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I saw a post yesterday which was priceless:

"Had Sarah Plain and the Christian Right been with Christ at the Sea of Gallilee, they would have PROTESTED Christ feeding the HUNGER 5,000. And had stoned the harlot to death before Christ could have even bent down to wright in the sand."

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