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Serbian Intelligence Chief's Ties to CIA Revealed At Hague Trial

Such murky stuff, as is typical with the CIA. How do you begin to untangle criminal actions like this? When does spying for the opposition outweigh participation in genocide? Does one cancel out the other?

These aren't rhetorical questions, because we have a web of similar interests all over the world:

For eight years, Stanisic was the CIA's main man in Belgrade. During secret meetings in boats and safe houses along the Sava River, he shared details on the inner workings of the Milosevic regime. He provided information on the locations of NATO hostages, aided CIA operatives in their search for grave sites and helped the agency set up a network of secret bases in Bosnia.

At the same time, Stanisic was setting up death squads for Milosevic that carried out a genocidal campaign, according to prosecutors at the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia, which was established by the U.N. Security Council in 1993 to try those responsible for serious human rights violations in the Balkan wars.

Now facing a trial at The Hague that could send him to prison for life, Stanisic has called in a marker with his American allies. In an exceedingly rare move, the CIA has submitted a classified document to the court that lists Stanisic's contributions and attests to his helpful role. The document remains sealed, but its contents were described by sources to The Times.

The CIA's Lofgren, now retired, said the agency drafted the document to show "that this allegedly evil person did a whole lot of good." Lofgren, however, doesn't claim to disprove the allegations against Stanisic.

"But setting the indictment aside," he said, "there are things this man did that helped bring hostilities to an end and establish peace in Bosnia."



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Dismantle the CIA.

The evil men do lives after them.

The good is oft interred with the bones.

Shakespeare.

"that this allegedly evil person did a whole lot of good."

It's called playing both ends off the middle.
When the end comes, just claim you were really working for whoever comes out on top.
The CIA probably paid top dollar for the intel also.
Wow, the guy sounds like quite the devious weasel.

Are the Repugs looking for a replacement for Steele yet?

Sounds poetic. Brings a picture to mind.

I agree that he was working both sides, and for money/power. Possibly to mitigate during the potential trial looming in his future. And genocide is a hard thing to mitigate. At the most, perhaps he should face life in prison rather than execution.

Stanisic was setting up death squads for Milosevic that carried out a genocidal campaign,

Put him away just like they will George Bush.

They ALL need to be put away ... forever!

He served just four years of a scant seven year term, then he went back to work for BAYER, who continue to honor this sub-human monster by placing wreathes upon his grave.

IG BAYER executive Fritz Ter Meer authored the slogan "Arbeit macht frei," translated from german, "Work Liberates," which was made into signs and placed above entrances of concentration camps. Just a finishing touch on his horrific blueprint for extracting values from victims for Nazi-enabling IG Farben. Ter Meer was responsible for implementing policies for starvation, forced labor and fiendish medical experimentation, complimented by infrastructure of gas chambers and stench-producing crematoriums that generated complaints from local citizenry for reeking miles around.

Yes, THAT Fritz Ter Meer still threatens us with genocide, zombie-like, through an unexpected vector.

Emerging more clever than before, in 1963 Ter Meer's warped effectiveness was directed toward long-term planning. He founded CODEX Alimentarius in cooperation with The World Health Organization (WHO,) which now, thanks to FDA's subversive, persistent participation, threatens to overthrow consumer outrage-driven US Dietary Supplement Health Education Act (DSHEA) law.

DSHEA limits FDA power over regulating supplements, a grass-roots response born of concern over the FDA's Gestapo-type armed raids on health food stores. Dietary supplements are a huge industry, out-competing drugs for out-of-pocket health care expenditures. Supplements are currently regulated as foods, not as dangerous and frequently deadly drugs. Holding supplements to the same standards, requiring exorbitant pharmaceutical-type testing amounts to prohibition.

Going over our grass-roots legislating heads to the international stage of CODEX Alimentarius, the FDA works on your dollar to undo our DSHEA law that binds them. If they succeed, the USA would be subject to punishing trade-sanctions for non-compliance with paltry, RDA-type limits on a short list of permitted supplements. For larger quantities you will need a prescription. Visualize doors broken down by gun-toting thugs over illegal possession of vitamin C, and you have only started to see the picture.

This attack on health options for doctors, patients and self-care oriented individuals in the carefully crafted disguise of benefic altruistic concern is underway, even as doctor's orders of prescription drugs, taken as directed, kill a conservative FDA estimate of 250,000 US citizens yearly. A much greater figure is sadly probable. It's called iatrogenic (doctor caused) death. Even more are harmed by iatrogenic illness.

Instead of CODEX Alimentarius efforts being rationally oriented towards optimizing nutrition for a malnourished world, by magical thinking it's nutrients that threaten, having now become dangerous toxins. This dishonesty serves the Ter Meer CODEX initiative, to starve and sicken the world population so that pharmaceutical companies may better suckle the fetid milk of disease-care profits.

Non-elected bureaucrats in the FDA respond to Pharma interests, ignoring tax payers and even court decisions against them. They prove this criminal nature every time FDA CODEX delegates consent to and argue for standards not reflecting and respecting our DSHEA law, but instead promoting unscientific, arbitrary standards favored by their Pharma-friends. The rogue FDA bureaucrats must be made accountable for the abuse of their stations, plowed under and the FDA re-implemented, free of IG Farben-type genocidal influence.

Watch We Become Silent: The Last Days of Health Freedom part 1, narrated by Dame Judi Dench, on youtube.

Human values may be sacrificed if there is a greater good to point at. And as a tax payer, I helped.

was a C.I.A. operative...then what?

Then we will have to kill them all.

kemo sabe?

When does spying for the opposition outweigh participation in genocide?

Never.

Does one cancel out the other?

Not if you want your country to be on the side of what is truly good and right and just.

Put him away just like they will George Bush.

It isn't going to happen.

Of the people who said America will never elect a black men etc. Such a pathetic viewpoint in my opinion. Hopefully dis-empowering is not your motive or goal.

of the men who said women would never have the right to vote.

What would be the difference between Stanisic and Saddam Hussein? Other than the fact that one of them was deemed no longer worthy.

Same shit over and over again..

Check this Classic..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhqfijdOIuE

KRS ONE lays it out as for the direction we need to take with this crap.

"CIA we don't need em, So President Clinton should delete them"

Humanity has had enough of this crap...

"If principles can be suspended to stick the boot into the opposition, they are no longer principles."

I sometimes wonder if our glorious country will ever actually live up to the expectations put upon it by the world and by its citizenry. I really hope so.

Is that pragmatism, then?

the enemys at the gates and they are us ! works for me!

The other way to read this post is that he may have been our asset the entire time, doing our bidding there. Our interference on his behalf is because of what he did on behalf of the CIA, not despite it. Those things that he is being charged with are precisely what we asked him to do.

This is a standard operating method of the CIA.

Is it really possible for anyone to still think our development, installation and support of Saddam Hussein, Manuel Noriega, Osama bin Laden, the Shah of Iran, etc. is a coincidence?

..most conflicts that have occurred anywhere in the world since the end of WWII have in some manner been fomented by the CIA or other US intelligence folks. We've been on both sides - supplying intelligence, weapons and people to pull the triggers. That darn M-I complex that Ike warned us about has gotten way out of control.

If this guy was reaching out to the CIA to stop the genocide then this situation becomes incredibly complex. I'm glad that the CIA has brought this to the attention of the court. I don't know whether or not the court will find him guilty. That is up to the court to decide. I am just glad that the CIA owned up too this; so that all the infomation will be before the court when they make their decision.

Whilst he wasn't on the same scale as Stanisic, British Army/Military Intelligence agent Brian Nelson was the "intelligence director" for the pro-British paramilitary Ulster Defence Association in Belfast.

The UDA's death squads assassinated not only suspected members of the Irish Republican Army but also Catholic civilians in sectarian murders and shot dead human rights lawyer Pat Finucane in front of his family 20 years ago last month.

See www.patfinucanecentre.org

"The Pat Finucane Centre is named in memory of Pat Finucane, a human rights lawyer from Belfast who was murdered in front of his wife and children on 12 February 1989 by the pro-British UDA. Pat had successfully challenged the British Government over several important human rights cases. One of those involved in his murder, Brian Nelson, was working for the Force Research Unit, an undercover unit of British Military Intelligence."

Now let me get this right, the same guy that helped the CIA find mass graves was organizing genocidal campaigns as well?
And these genocidal campaigns were the justification the US needed to attack?

Damn, that sure does sound familiar.

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