Supreme Court Nomination Will Be The First Test of Our Newest Democrat
I've been watching Arlen Specter for most of my life, and all I can say is, if you think he can be trusted, you're just not paying attention. He needs to prove he can't be controlled, and it's always when you least expect it. Harry Reid must have cut some kind of deal with him on the SCOTUS nominee, and while I hope I'm wrong, I predict he will be more trouble than he's worth:
WASHINGTON (Dow Jones)--President Barack Obama's first nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court could be an early test for Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter as a newly minted Democrat.
Specter's announcement this week that he was switching parties after 43 years in the GOP rocked Washington and put the Democrats close to a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate.
Specter could prove a key vote in any fight over Obama's Supreme Court pick if the Republicans attempt to amount a filibuster of the president's choice to replace Justice David Souter, who is retiring.
"I would expect him to support Obama's nominee unless it's a real radical," said Roger Pilon of the Cato Institute.
Sheldon Goldman, a political-science professor at the University of Massachusetts Amherst, said Specter's vote could be "absolutely crucial" and predicted that the senator would be a strong backer of Obama's pick.
"Obama is in a terrific position," he said.
When it comes to Senate consideration of Supreme Court nominees, the Pennsylvania senator has perhaps the most colorful history of any current lawmaker, having angered colleagues in both parties.
"I supported very conservative nominees like Justice [Antonin] Scalia and very liberal nominees like Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg," Specter said in Philadelphia Friday. "I think that's the way it ought to be."
These politicians that want to play both sides of the road like Specter and Lieberman are just interested in power not representing the interests of the American people.
Is it the 21st century yet?
Reid, Nelson, Specter, Lieberman, etc, etc. Seems to be contagious, not?
He's already failed the first test.
If Spectre expects to have any chance in the Dem primary he knows he will have to be a strong backer of Obama's nominee. He's a slimy backstabbing opportunist but he's no fool.
when she said "He needs to prove he can't be controlled, and it's always when you least expect it."
And, unfortunately, even it that is how he would like to portray himself, its all smoke and mirrors when you look at who his contributors are because that is who controls him.
There must be something more than trust that Obama has over him because he is not trustworthy.
$$$$$$$$$$$. 'Nuff said.
Whats the point of Specter switching?
The republicans were about to toss him?
Is Specter blocking a Democrat from winning his seat?
What can Specter do now that he couldn't do before?
A vote is a vote, what are the benefits by renaming yourself.
I missed the point.
It was all about BEING UN-EMPLOYED. In all their wisdom, his fellow Republicans were ready to DUMP him in their primary for a RIGHT WING CHRISTAIN IDEOLOG... and that meant he would be out of the Senate because it's obvious to anyone with eyes and ears that this country is NO LONGER CENTER-RIGHT... it has taken a definite LEFT TURN.
(MEMO TO SCARBOUROUGH, HANNITY, LIMBAUGH:
The USA is now CENTER-LEFT!)
So Harry Reid just guaranteed Specter another full term in the Senate... IN EXCHANGE FOR EXACTLY WHAT...?
First of all, this octogenarian would never live out his term if re-elected, and besides that, I think the people in Pennsylvania will dump his ass in the primaries for a real democrat anywho.
I can't see any of my democratic relatives voting for his wrinkled old republican ass, just because he stuck a "D" next to his name. Hell, this old fart may not even make it to the primaries. He's 80, and is in very poor health.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
"this octogenarian would never live out his term if re-elected".
I imagine a lot of Strom Thurmond's opponents said the same thing about him during the last 20-30 years of his political career.
A shiny gold dime, Harry never seen one of those before! plus, he promised to buy him a cup of coffee.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
For those youngsters who don't recall, Specter started out as a Democrat. As his state became "redder," he switched parties. Now that his state is going back "blue," he's switching back. You can look at it two ways.
One is that he's a just a politician at heart, an opportunist that will wear whatever label is most convenient at the time.
The second possibility is that he simply wants to represent the people he has been elected to represent, and feels he can best do so by changing parties.
There's probably a little bit of truth in both ideas. Specter has never been a toe-the-party-line vote for either party, and there's no reason to assume that he will be now, either. Personally, I have a hard time condemning that. I don't always agree with his votes, but at least he generally seems to be making actual decisions, not just making a knee-jerk reaction.
can i believe my lieing eyes? how dare susie use the word .........democrat!!!!!!!!!!as i have been scolded by the useual botts of being ......... a republican ...... or at the very least useing repig talking points on how i view obamas right of center actions as president by useing such a term as .......democrat instead of saying democratic every time i write , arlen spectors a douchbag ! and will add very little to the yes im going to use the dreaded word , .....democrat party, other then reinforce the repig lite policys of obama!, if thier actualy is any liberal , and i dont mean right , or right of center programs obama puts forward spector will help defeat them, the democrats have now become the party of complacency and now remain silent on the bush cheny wars for fun and profit !
If you want to be taken seriously on this or any other blog on the left side of the political spectrum, I would recommend some night classes or at the very least, take up reading as a hobby. Just reading will improve your skills greatly. Seriously, I could see glimmerings of valid points but trying to wade through that comment is far more trouble than it is worth. Now, this isn't designed to find fault, I'm giving you some good advice for free. Take it or leave it because denying it is counter productive.
If you insist on intellectual laziness, then I suggest that you would feel more at home at any of the right wing blogs as they are apparently more adept at reading endless, rambling sentences, dripping with hostility.
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unless Tyree is some kind of intellectual, ignore? Am I right here? Read what he writes, not how he writes.
and I have found his style of writing with no capitals, misspelled words and excessive use of punctuation marks makes his usually inane comments even more difficult to understand. I don't waste time with her anymore.
are you dyslexic? You don't have children? I've found from raising my kids that I can basically understand anything written by anyone, and do not judge anyone's intellect based on writing skills. My father in law could take anything completely apart, rebuild it, and put it back together working better than ever and could barely spell his name. Intelligence is not limited to those that can type a sentence.
Best skill I ever learned was construction. The guy who showed it to me was borderline illiterate, but much more practical, honest and useful than most of our top spellers in this country.
I never would have dreamed of judging him for his inability to spell.
Have you ever read Archie and Mehitabel?
http://www.donmarquis.com/readingroom/archybo...
e e cummings would also pull out all your hair
(He was a sissy fighter).
Could you imagine trying to teach e e cummins to Beavis and Butthead?
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Just his/her writing skills which obviously need help. I'm beginning to question both your intellect and your sincerity on this blog though. You seem to go out of your way to deliberately missunderstand what I said.
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"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
exactly concerned canuck ! that im 74 and only have a ninth grade education is to be so much against my haveing an opinion on whats going on in this countrys ,of course i must be ignored , if i had my life to live over i wouldnt trade it for anys whos had the advantage of being able to form an opinion on politicians because i know how to use ten dollar words or be able to write better then anyone else, it seems funny to me that the snobish intelectuals decry put me on ignore , who represents the real liberals ,the average guy ? not guys like saint agustine thats for sure , that someone advises supression of anyone elses free speach smacks of pure faschisim , and when the average guys voice is silenced by these people then democracy in this countrys dead,
So what? You can't improve yourself at 74? Maybe you should just climb into the grave now. This is my reward for trying to help. Done.
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You may only have a 9th grade education Tyree, but your a hell of alot smarter than all those graduate degree republican and republican-lite democrats, who are educated well beyond their intellgence.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Doesn't eye of newt have a doctorate
And maybe that assholier than thou phil gramm?
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They aren't ignoring you. they are just saying that, lol.
First the rant
Tyree, or you or myself does not have the RIGHT to post here, we are afforded the privilege of posting. But yes you do have the right not to read what is posted.
Now the question.
You stated that you graduated HS but then went on to receive a GED? In my state at least you cannot get a GED when you have a diploma, also why would you, even if you could? A diploma is worth more than a GED, even if the law says that they are equal, for the reason of somebody persevering through school, rather than just taking a 6 hour test. Having a GED myself, it was much easier to get, in about the equivalent amount of time of one day of school, than the additional 2 years it would of taken me in HS.
I was accepted at a State university based on an ACT score that made me eligible for the honors program. Having been out of school for 23 years and being required to take a full time course load (that's another story in itself) I sought counseling at the Advising Office and was told only degree seeking students could receive their services. I went to the Registrar's office to see why I was not in a degree seeking program and was told that the State reguired a C or better in high school English to be admitted to a degree seeking program. I asked if an acceptable GED score in English would get me admitted and was told it would.
As it were, the day after I finished the GED test I was admitted to a degree seeking program after telling my situation to the VP of Freshman and Sophomore Programs who granted me an exception. When I received my GED certificate I showed it to the Registrar but did not let her copy it.
Evidently the State of Florida did allow people to have both a high school diploma and GED because I do have a GED from Florida and a high school diploma from Maryland. I don't know the big deal is since I've known PhD's who returned to school and gotten Bachelor Degrees and/or Masters in disciplines different from their PhD.
You respond very, very well.
The other story is that I was injured in 1983 while working a UNION job as a longshoreman. After doctors told me I could never return to work on the waterfront the US Department of Labor stepped in (Harbor Workers and Longshoremen Compensation Act coverage) and tested me for training in a new occupation. I tested well in Baltimore and was told I was smart enough to be trained for any non-physical occupation. Since the DOL was footing the bill I elected to leave an area where it snows and relocated to Jacksonville, Florida where I was stationed in the Navy 1963-1965.
When I contacted the DOL in Jacksonville my case was farmed out to a private company for retesting (I believe the man at the DOL was prejudiced because he laughed at me when I told him I was a longshoreman from Baltimore who had moved to Jacksonville to attend computer school).
The woman who handled my case told me I was an exception to most longshoremen and worked to get me funded for a 4 year degree program. The DOL required me to take a full course load.
I had chosen computers because it was an up and coming field in 1984 (COBOL programming was a required course then). As a Junior I changed my major to Business and earned a BBA. My math skills were better that my computer skills and I was asked to tutor students in 3 different quantitative courses by the professors who taught those courses. I was even asked to teach different classes when different professors went out of town.
I also took advantage of several non-academic programs having served in Student Government, placed 4th in a national forensics contest, acted in several Shakespeare plays, wrote for the school paper and traveled to Europe twice with choral groups. The intellectual involvement helped me cope with the pain I suffered with without staying doped-up with pain killers.
That was an very rewarding period in my life.
worked to get me funded for a 4 year degree program.
It's unfortunate you had the accident. Being funded for four years was your compensation. Not everyone can afford to go back to school, and not for four years. Any progressive should know that. Some people can't even afford to stay home from work when they are sick. Let's not forget these realities.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
for blowing me off a ladder that resulted in a spinal injury to me. The most ridiculous thing was the insurance adjuster that laughed at me, questioning the possibility of being blown off a ladder by a gust of wind, when earlier that year, at the same marine terminal, a wind storm blew three container cranes down the tracks they rode on, into the harbor, killing two crane operators and critically injuring the third operator. This was a result of mechanics working for the the Maryland Port Authority disconnecting safety switches that would have locked down the cranes when wind speed exceeded a certain limit.
I am lucky that my job was subject to a Federal law that proscribed a weekly compensation rate of 2/3rds of my average weekly wage with provisions for retraining. Another plus was finding a lawyer who was well versed in the laws that were applicable to longshoremen's cases.
Another interesting aspect is my employer then was Maersk, as in the Maersk Alabama, the ship that was recently attacked by pirates.
Perhaps the most depressing thing is the behavior of shipping companies who, til this day, still cut corners that take chances with the safety of workers in order to acheive so many "moves per hour" as a measure of production. The payment of bonuses to longshoremen crane operators to meet the goals is ludicrous in my opinion since the cost of NOT achieving a goal many times results in injury at best, or death at worst, to a "union man".
for your answer, and that does sound like a good reason to get a GED when you all ready have a diploma. I'm wondering if I will have the same problems when I go back to school, I'm currently trying to register for a nursing program to become a RN and am supposed to go take the ACT next week. My GED scores were in the 90% except for the writing which was something like 30.
ooooopppssss.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
I was worried about my writing skills when I took the test Florida requires university students to take before they can have Junior status. I had only written two paragraphs addressing the topic I was writing about when time ran out. Prior to the test I attended tutoring sessions to help students to prepare for the test (I forget what the name of the test was). I do remember the tutor saying, in the time allowed for writing, three paragraphs would be sufficient if, the first paragraph told them what I was going to tell them and the second paragraph told them about what what I was telling them, and in the third paragraph, I trold them what I just told them. What worried me after the test was that I had only written 2 paragraphs when the time was up. The topic I wrote on was something along the lines of "What effect has the increase of women in the workforce had on American family life?"
I approached the topic from the view that the increased divorce rate was the primary cause of women seeking employment. Evidently my situation then of having been twice divorced gave me insight that a 19 or 20 year old didn't have. Another factor was that the majority of the other students taking the test had received their primary education in Florida schools. (There are people here who still want Intelligent Design {Creationism} taught as an alternative to evolution in high schools.)
For an immediate need I would suggest checking in a good Collegiate Dictionary or an unabridged dictionary, which should have sections on style and grammar. Another popular book is known for it's authors, Strunk and White, (The Elements of Style, I think is it's title}. You can probably find something to help you at a Barnes & Nobles bookstore also. There might also be books to help you prepare specifically for the ACT.
I will admit to being hard on tyree thinking he was just a young whippersnapper coming here with a fuck-it attitude about the conventions of writing. I believe a person's written communications that has errors in capitalization, punctuation and spelling is discounted by the reader much as our verbal communications are with too many ahs, ums and double clutch word usage (Jimmy Two Times in Goodfellows).
Having been a sailor and a longshoreman has resulted in my use of vulgarity in the wrong situation on more than one occasion (have you ever heard the story about the recently discharged sailor who left the dinner table after saying "Pass the fucking butter" and then told his mom, who came after him saying people understand his situation, "No mom, I can't go back and face everyone because I'll just fuck-up again").
Good luck with your test and don't hesitate to ask for any help from me or anyone else.
not to worry, my writing skills have improved a bit over the last 20 years or so that I took the GED. And I figure worse comes to worst I'll have to take a few english comp classes before I can get admitted to the nursing program. I know a few people in the medical field that I can get a good recommendation from if needed.
as i said i come from a different era, that few alive today can understand , in my time a high school education was a great acievement ,equal to college for most of that time , as a kid i spent many days at home dureing grade school sick with small pox, scarlet feaver , the measels chicken pox , ect ect, and each time i returned to school i was behind in what ever was taught , was i caught up by any concerned teachers ? not on your life , i was passed on and had to do the best i could , when i reached high school i was allready so far behind that it was just to much to handle , ok so i joined the navy to fight in korea , i think i handled that part of my life very well, i even tried the usafe courses trying to catch up , but between being in combat working a full day on ships buisness and standing endless hours on watches thier was very little time for bettering ones self , after the navy i went back to high school but it was to strange setting thier with kids studying things i should have allready knew , so my parents needed finacial help to get thru the hard times , i quit school to get work to help them out, so where have i failed anyone ? i never was arrested for anything in my life , never used dope , never mistreated anyone , lived my life as best i could , allways voted democrat , why am i not as good as anyone else here? i must say one last comment on my education , i have read the complete history of the united states , and much more ,war and peace ect ect , i have read and understood probably more books the any one here im not bragging just saying that i am not illiterate as some claim i am, i taught myself to build a computer from scratch , can build a house from the ground up, can rebuild an auto engine or most gas engines and i taught myself how to do it from books from the library, how many can say that? so im quite sure im able to form an opinion on my own,!
Hi tyree.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
hi edwin , just saw your greeting , hows things ? in the land of the morning calm? and when did pusan become busan?
They keep changing the system of transliteration. Since I've been here, the way to change Korean into English has changed a few times.
As I can read Korean, Busan is probably a more correct transliteration, but, in my opinion, an unnecessarily confusing change. They have also changed Kyongsang nam do (Busan's province) into Gyeongsang nam do.
It's not good in this age of google searches either.
Inchon is now Incheon, Kyongki do is now Gyeongki do, etc. Seoul is still Seoul, and that's where I live, right in the very centre. Bet those names bring back some memories, eh tyree?
As per usual, nothing is EVER calm in the land of 'morning calm.' I've never met so many hot-heads in my life, and they are highly highly emotional. They love to disagree, very loudly. I am calm and quiet, and don't disturb others. Oil and water.
Still, moving here (12 years ago) has been a life-changing experience and enabled a fabulous tour of Asia. It got me off the ferris wheel, which is over there.
Know what I mean? Egads, America has gotten ugly while I've been away. I hope Canada doesn't follow suit. But, I can't see that happening. At least, not as much. (Harper is too scary for me.)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
That if he/she could write better, maybe he/she would be taken more seriously as his/her main point seemed to be that he/she feels unappreciated and put upon. Unlike politicians, I say what I mean and I don't lace it with hidden meaning or my own agenda. I suggested that tyree might be taken more seriously and might be treated more respectfully if he/she took some time to do some self improvement grammatically speaking and that was exactly my meaning. Period.
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Even when we are able to write in sentences, sometimes the ideas are interpreted much differently by the person who then takes reads them. You may recall that I agreed with a recent point you made on another topic but qualified it until you clarified it.
I have never criticized on the way one expresses themselves grammatically although one site monitor lumped three commenters, including me, in that category recently.
I read every word commenters make when my attention is drawn to them.
Nowhat, above, is correct in what he says, above about ignoring. But it is a useful tool.
Note the way you were attacked angrily. It shows through the words of expression. I take all comments seriously for what they, in substance, represent. The tirade about why am I blamed when this poster used the word "Democrat" obviously shows error of thought as is often the case with this commenter. Democrat as used by Susie Madrak is grammatically correct as a noun, i.e., the rant is useless, vitriolic banter in the context of this post.
tyree is one of the types of posters that the Ignore user option is designed for - his posts won't show on your computer.
As Tommy Smothers said once, "The only valid censorship of ideas is the right of people not to listen".
in the world ignore those they don't want to listen to. Kind of like Washington's political elite. "I hear ya, but I don't govern by polls"
What does it say about you that, when someone comes along and tries to help out someone else, (who very obviously needs it), and you accuse them of wanting to ignore or silence the person in question? Saint Augustine makes an excellent point that if I wished to ignore tyree, it would be the easiest thing just to hit the ignore button. Instead, I tried to help and I've attracted my own critics. My meaning was plain and your hositlity is misplaced, unless you're a troll who lurks this blog to start controversy.
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What you are seeing is regular posters sticking up for one of their own. You know, like progressives and liberals always say they do. It isn't hostility. It's pointing out how anally retentive picking apart a poster's grammar is, without touching on that poster's points at all.
Wasn't it St. Augustine who was so disgusted by the birth process that he described humanity as being born between urine and feces?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
If you insist on intellectual laziness, then I suggest that you would feel more at home at any of the right wing blogs as they are apparently more adept at reading endless, rambling sentences, dripping with hostility.
I think your response would have been less controversial if you hadn't included this. It's a little preachy and not too kind.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
that a supposed intalectual quotes [TOMMY SMOTHERS] is at the very least very telling ! valid censorship based on a comics words is at the very least telling on the mentality of where a posters comeing from, and whats next a quote from saturday night live?
Um, Saint Augustine's comment was defending your right to speak/post your opinion.
The Smothers Brothers are socially conscious comedians from way back (as was Saturday Night Live, once upon a time). It might be worth remembering that the "dumb Tommy Smothers" act was just that - an act.
I'd think that at the least you'd appreciate the point he was making - if you don't want to hear someone else's opinion, don't read it. You don't get to tell them to be quiet.
margaret, tyree is taken seriously by many of us here at C&L. His comments are cogent and supported. I never see any hostility in his comments. You want to see consistent hostility in comments, well I wont name names but his initials are L&L.
Nail meet hammer. You just nailed it 100%
and so not true.
Tyree, the only people that accuse you of being Republican, are the koolaid drinking sheep that bleed "Democrat" and not true liberals or progressives. The same who attack any poster online that question anything President Untouchable does, regardless of the impact on their lives. It's the official battered spouse syndrome. Yes he continues to toss true liberals and progressives under the bus, but he loves us, is really smart, good looking, and it's all just a giant poker game. He doesn't mean to do things Republican style. It's all a big poker game. Just wait and see! Wait, 100 days. No, wait a year. No, wait until next election. No, just wait until. Blah, blah, blah.
There have been so many redflags on this administration in the first 100 days, that only someone that is completely blind would not see them. Final nail in coffin? Madeline Albright, Clinton WarWhore extraordinaire, has written a stunning prose on FluffyPost praising Mr. American Idol. Frank Rich? Same. Gary Hart? Same. Party brainwashing is not limited to the Republicans. It really is past due that liberals and progressives wake up and smell the coffee. Republicans under Bushie pointed blame constantly at Clinton and libs and progs howled. Obama is doing the same. For how long will that last? 4 years? 8? Where are those shovel ready jobs?
Obama----corporatist Repub-lite
Can't fight ya' on that one!
I too am extremely disappointed in Obama's republican-lite approach thus far, but I will give him some more time.
Nonetheless, for someone who is so intelligent, you would think he would understand that "change" doesn't happen by keeping the status quo on K Street and Wall Street in charge!
And he needs to kick some serious blue-dog ass in the Senate. Those f***ing pricks have totally wandered off the reservation, and are now employed by the enemies of the American people!
But I am starting to get the feeling, he is just another republican-lite in the mold of Clinton. And Clinton was ALWAYS to conservative and cozy with the corporatists for my liking.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
repeating "change, change, change" doesn't make it happen. He's boiling down to a politician that can give good speeches. If he was a used car salesman, people would not have anything nice to say about him.
Yep!
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Where Specter will help us. The one thing he has been consistent in is confirming justices. He's been above that game at least compared to most Republicans.
That said....Trust him? Not if I was on fire and he had the water hose.
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a test of Specter and not a test of Obama? Can this man do no wrong in Dems eyes ever?
If you get right down to it, it's not like there's a thing that Obama could do about it if he wanted. Anyone can change political parties at any time they like. It doesn't require presidential approval.
the same person, except with a "D" after his name.
Let's face it, he changed parties so he didn't have to take the heat from the repukes about the fiscal stimulus bill. He knows he is doomed without repuke support in the next election, and they were threatening to cut the rope on the old fart.
I'm hoping we can just accept that we'll have 59 D's and one repuke with a "d" after his name. That's all it's worth.
DON'T BANK ON spectar. He's out for his own throat.
Obama will nominate Diana Ross?
oprah will be pissed.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Having caught a few minutes of Oprah this week, Obama could pick her and it would be considered more than one pick. She looks like she never refuses food anywhere.
I caught a glance of her show last week. I think the extra weight is there to bloat out the wrinkles on her face.
Her complexion looks great for her age!
The miracles of makeup. She has no neck!!
Where did it go?
Let's play hide the neck with Oprah.
more and more like Fat Bastard off the Austin Powers movies. "Get in my belly!"
and she's black. WTF is wrong with you guys. Successful black people just isn't in your playbook. It's not hard to see where your criticism of Obama comes from.
anywhere mentioned colour Ron? Do you have a complex?
Maybe a complexion.
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She did it by pandering to the nation. As for the rest of your argument is disingenious along the lines of when did you stop beating your wife?
Well, when did you?
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LOL ys.
I find the tone of this conversation racist and offensive. I thought there were site monitors here?
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But Margaret, he only person who mentioned race was ron.
Wow ron. Not even sure what to do with that.
Can you say off topic? Out of "left" field?
I didn't know this thread was about Oprah. Asshat!
I didn't know this thread was about black people.
Notice I haven't shown any hostility towards you. What's up with the asshat?
it's the Democratic Koolaid response to anything they deem opposing opinion. They learned it from the Bush Republicans. It's an infection similar to swine flu.
I put the hat on the wrong person.
Any criticism I may or may not have of Obama has nothing to do with his skin colour. He's hot hot hot, has a great smile, is intelligent and charming and VERY VERY do-able. Smokin' hot.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
It will be more helpful to her to hide the buckets from the colonels.
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was on and found the buckets. It was messy.
you're an Oprah fan or you wouldn't be watching and know that KA was on the other day.
I watch her show now and then - turn it on to see what the show will be about. Not interested in hollywood/celebrity crap. But, to Oprah's credit, she's brought many formerly taboo topics into the open and provided a format for millions to get a little education on important issues.
Defending tyree when someone commented on his typing skills, and then attacking Oprah because she is gaining weight again is kinda oxymoronish.
But, expected from a moron.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
my wife, like millions of brainwashed corporate customers, is a big fan. So, it is on one of my televisions almost daily. Your defence of Oprah is quite noble. She made her billions honestly. Hahahahaa.
Oh and by the way, as a liberal, I would defend anyone when it comes to such a childish attempt to ridicule because of education or grammar. I know it's not like sticking up for a corporatewhore like Oprah, but hey, it's a liberal flaw.
Almost forgot. Under your chair is the latest from Revlon!! Oooooh...ahhhhhh....*scream*...
Sun, 05/03/2009 - 08:27 — Amitola
No, that would be non-sequitur(ish.)
An oxymoron is a comment that contradicts itself, eg. Military Intelligence.
But since neither are the subject of the thread, one can't readily say which of them is the more out of left field.
There's a chance Oprah doesn't read this site, but tyree does.
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Uh...not quite.
I don't know who's post you're addressing, but my beef against Oprah was her start as what I call a sob-sister. She only went to issues when there was an explosion of talk shows each vying for being the most offensive, audience members yelling at people on stage etc.
But even then her coverage was facile, along the lines of the after-school "educational" TV movies on issues. She also introduced America to that bloviating blow-hard dr. phil.
Until President Obama she was the closest to a liberal spokesman we've had, and I did not care for that, anymore than when it seemed to be Alan Alda.
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I object to her friend, Gail. Total ass-kisser/name-dropper.
Anyway, Oprah, whatever. Put her on your ignore list??
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
we'll each get a new car!
it's not another Pontiac!!
It's a Ford Pinto.
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Holy shit, that was funny! ROFLMAO!
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
is that it further demoralized an already sinking Republican Party. Beyond that, I see no good coming from it. He's a snake in the grass for sure and speaks with forked tongue.
Just ferthehellofit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5dwksSbD34&fe...
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where did *that* one come from??
I knew Harry. He was a nice, if somewhat confused, guy. I have no doubt he would have accomplished some great things...
Is there any room for serious discussion in these comments without getting misquoted, missunderstood or abused? I mean apart from picking Oprah Winfrey's appearance to death...
Mr. Amato, some of your commentors sound like they are playing on their parents' computers while they are asleep.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
Somnambutypists?
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;-)
Oopsie
I'm encountering glitches
And I just bought these shoes.
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You remember that line from the Dark Knight, "Why the long face?"
Now I know why it sounded familiar; the came from Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Asscabanah.
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Well, ya, sure. Just ignore the ones you don't like instead of attacking the author. You know, attacking the validity of his opinion cuz it took you too long to read it.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
really is an angry, far-left, fascist, socialist, terrorist-loving, "chicagoan" then he'll nominate Angela Davis.
How about that Weatherman?
No, not Willard Scott.
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This thread is a lot easier to read with the trolls on ignore....You know who you are.
a very special thanks to all of you who support the rights to free speach , and who are unwilling to let ones education to become a hindrence in being able to have an opinion on here, you have been more of a help to me then you know! that i believe spectors only going to further the right of center policys of obamas my opinion, and as an american i have a right to express my view, without thoes who dont agree telling others to put me on ignore , i dont expect anyone to agree with me all the time thats each posters right , but as long as i breath i will express my beliefs !
trolls get you down Tyree, or shout you down. The blue Koolaid is similar to the Red Koolaid it seems since January.
Amen!
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
That's gender bias!
It should be Aperson.
( I've always wondered about the similarities between the salutation amen and the Egyptian God Amon, which I'm sure I've seen spelled Amen. One version of an Egyptian sun-god was named Yah (similar to the later YHWV [Yahweh]), as well as I believe the name of an ancient Egyptian town.)
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this comment seems hypocritical to me. In their time the Smothers Brothers were like Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert today.
:-)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
faux outrage over a pro-choice nominee (ie, one who interprets THE LAW) by the same people who pretend there's exceptions to torture.
There will be, you just wait and see. There most definitely WILL be!
Then some blue dog numbnut like Ben Nelson will come out and agree with them, and tell us we have to be understanding, like the GOPers were. I have seen this one before.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Can Specter support Bill Clinton or Jonathon Turley? What about Bernardine Dohrn?
What about Bernadette Peters?
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She is not a lawyer.
Neither was President Taft when he became Chief Justice.
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Taft carried more weight that Peters does. ;^)
This nomination should just be crammed down the Amerikan Congress republicans' throats!
I will say one thing, the site monitors now seem to have some strict standards compared to last year. I don't even remember what I said now. What was it that violated the terms of service?
[Comment Deleted By Administration For Violation Of Terms Of Service]
Um... that is what it says. Perhaps it was hateful against a person?
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
I'm going to predict he nominates Jay Bybee and Specter votes to confirm. Along with most of the rest of the Democrats in the Senate.
That's because he's not a Democrat at all, but an opportunist. He votes with Dems about 25% of the time on key progressive issues -- he's a Republican, who can no longer get elected as a Republican in his state.
If ever the term DINO was apt, it is for Specter. He brings nothing useful to the Democratic Party and Democrats should not embrace him.
It is beginning to appear that there is a genuine third party shaping up in the Senate -- The Weasels. Specter, Reid, Ben Nelson, etc.
Democrats should not welcome Specter into the party. If he wants to caucus with them, that's up to him, but he should have no seniority, no special considerations, and no committee chairmanships. If a half a million Democrats went out this week and changed their party affiliation to Republican, Specter would abandon the Democratic Party in a heartbeat. It is disgusting watching Democrats (Reid, Obama, et al.) respond to Specter.
Why were Democrats celebrating Specter's announcement that he was switching parties and welcoming him with such open arms? Seems the celebration was premature. Specter has already announced he won't be a "loyal Democrat" and won't support the Employee Free Choice Act, even going so far as to say he will filibuster. (So much for the "filibuster-proof" Senate.) He also said he will opposed health care. Nebraska Democratic Senator Ben Nelson (formerly employed the the health insurance industry) also opposes public health care, not wanting it to threaten the private health care industry. Who needs Republicans to vote against the people's best interests when we have Democrats like these?
Specter will be voting right along with all the other bluedog democrats...he'll fit in perfectly polishing each other's balls to such a spitshine they can see their faces in them.
Real dems have no power anymore.
Shit soup.
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