October 21, 2007 11:30 PM
Open Thread
Congratulations to Shakespeare's Sister/Shakesville, which sometime today had their three millionth visitor. Couldn't happen to a nicer blog.
Open thread below. What's on your mind on a Monday?
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Congrats to Shakes Sister..and Shakesville..
wow 3 mill...whoa...open thread? So did Bush Ever make any statement today about California on fire ? or he just came out and asked for money and "talked" about Iraq....it really is like Rome burned....
Congratulations to Shakesville.
The LATimes even had an article recently acknowledging the maturation of the blogosphere and how there's some big bucks out there. Which reminds me.
C&L Has a post today titled: “Little Taste of Russia…” that John ends with
“Reminds me of the Kremlin. Don’t like someone? Delete them from the ballot. It’s just sick and hypocritical. I wonder how the Ron Paul people feel about that?”
I bet the Ron Paul people feel like the Posters at C&L who get deleted for mentioning “THAT DAY.”
Just the other day there was a thread about a Real Time show, where the host threw out some “Truthers,” and even discussion about that event was edited and deleted on C&L, even though “THAT DAY” itself was not the focus of the discussion.
I don’t know about sick, but definitely hypocritical.
A panel suggests organizations like Blackwater are out of control. Your tax dollars not at work continued.
equilibrio @ 2:
I take it by "that day" you mean 9-11, i guess you can talk about it here if it's in context with a relevant story, you can even innuendo it in sometimes if your sharp, like im doing now. But at the end of the day this site is not about 9-11 or all of the relevant and worthy sites out there that are dedicated to discovering the truth about what really happened to wtc-7 etc.
Enjoy this site for exposing all the other shit people in power are doing and be happy.
peace :)
cut it out, folks. We're done. - Sitemonitor
Debbie Downers.
equilibrio @ 2:
Ok, I'm just going to have to blow the lid of this once and for all.
C&L is a prop of the Bush Administration. Bush is just offering us crazy liberals some red meat, and Mr. Amato is simply one of Bush's hired guns. He pretends to offer dissent, but really, the whole site is just a way to keep us from finding out about the truth behind 9/11. That's the one thing Bush told Amato not to discuss.
Amato, being a dutiful and loyal Bushie, pays his Site Monitors seven-figure salaries just to prevent the real story behind 9/11 from surfacing. (Site Monitors all jokingly refer to themselves as The Amato Gestapo.)
So, there's just no way that 9/11 will ever be discussed here, in any context whatsoever. I mean, just look how they censored this post! Oh, the horror!
Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
I'm still trying to find out what happened at the 7-11. After the Simpson's Movie promotions I can no longer find my Kwik-E-Mart Squishies! This is a true conspiracy...I WANT MY SQUISHY!
is the owner of the red sox going to have helton and holliday renditioned?
Nice shot. It´s an old German (most likely Berlin) Litfaßsäule.
But are you aware that the bill is rewarding 3 million Mark for Shakespeare´s Sister?
Just thinking about how far we have come with race relations and how far we have to go.
Karen @ 7:
Not only that, but i am CIA!
Now that i have told you i have to kill me.
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"Congratulations to Shakespeare’s Sister/Shakesville,"
Who... ?
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LOL
G.J. Melissa
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xoites defends Constitution @ 13:
The week's top conservative idiots:
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10/311
Karen @ 15:
W's week:
http://www.thedubyachronicles.com/index.htm
Larry King , the king of talk or that's what they want us to believe , asked the loaded almost accusatory , " most CIA agents don't write books " ya thats right king of intellect , nor do plumbers , doctors or pimps . i would of like to hear him ask , in his kosher formaldehyde voice , " HEY, Valerie that Bob Novak , a real scum bag , what do you think of him " .
In all the time I've been coming here, I've never seen a post that had the comment section closed...
What gives? What happened? Inquiring minds want to know... did that post in question get right-winged hacked or something?
[Comments close after five days now, or a certain number of posts. Due to an error in the post, a couple of right wing blogs accused C&L of lying, then the thread was swarmed by trolls. The mistake was corrected, explained, then C&L became 'sneaky liars' to those people. John decided to close it, because no amount of explanation would satisfy them.]
7 fires surrounding San Diego. Will the Witch Creek fire burn to the ocean? Will the Harris fire do the same? How much do I have to worry being in the heart of San Diego?
how would larry king know who's cia and who's not?
Gekke @ 4:
I do not want C&L to be about exposing "That Day" nor do I wish to debate that topic here because I know the rules.
I just thought it a tad ironic and hypocritical for John to post criticism of another private blog for its censorship policy when C&L manages its content as well.
I respect John's rules, even if I don't agree with them, and generally appreciate the moderation of the sitemonitors, just in this case I disagreed with the editing and deletion of comments about Bill Maher kicking people out of his show, especially on a thread about that episode.
Per your suggestion, I do enjoy when C&L exposes the shit the powerful are up to, but find that a rarity. Mostly C&L just recycles other blogs from the past few days with some filler of Coulter, Rush, and O'Liely thrown in. (To me, their not the real Crooks and liars, they are just the tabloid fluff that distracts.) Add to that a bit of the Daily Show, a serving of Colbert, and a Dash of Olberman, and you've got yourself one of the top blogs according to technorati and the banner ads on the right of the screen.
It is entertaining though, especially the comments, such as Karen's witty sarcasm. Also, as a SuperBlog it's an important gatekeeper, which is why I check it out when I do.
[Who is forcing you to visit? You sound like the two old ladies in the Poconos at a meal and one says "Oooh. The food here is just awful." The second one says "Yes. Really awful. And the portions are so small, too"
Just what makes you think you can hit this website, post not only for free, but have the site pay for you to criticize it? Really-you are quite the limit, with your "That Day" crap. It's not That day, it's the nutted up conspiracy theories that surround that day. And FYI-I am not attempting a dialog here. Just drop it now, or don't return, if you find it so beneath your tender sensibilities-Sitemonitor]
J4R3D @ 21:
Pretty much everything that burns is next to the foothills. No worries in town center. At least as far a fire goes.
The Turks continue to expand the civil war in Iraq. Didn't "Good" Cheney say something about that being one of the reasons we shouldn't invade?
Much to chagrin of its radical right organizers, this weekend's Values Voter Summit of GOP White House hopefuls produced only confusion. Despite the gymnastic contortions and acrobatic back-flips of Republican presidential candidates eager to win evangelical hearts and minds, no clear winner of the conference straw poll emerged. Thanks to his stuffing of the online ballot box, Mitt Romney edged Mike Huckabee, the clear favorite of actual conference goers, by 1,595 votes to 1,565.
Eager to avoid a repeat of this year's inconclusive outcome, the organizer of the event, Tony Perkins' Family Research Council, is moving to a new competitive format designed to produce a definitive winner. Here, then, is the guide to:
"The 2008 Values Voter Olympics."
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John,
Regarding the "gaming" the polls thread:
"Don't all great Communists know how to game the results?"
The Gang Of Predators completed that Mission in the 2004 election. The 2000 election was the warm up, testing the waters, if you will.
And NOW the loyalist flock is feigning some sortta concern while being duplicitous at bat.
ARE/IS America that clueless?
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J4R3D @ 21:
I dunno, man. But I'm wishing for yall's safety ,from Texas. Let's hope DHS and FEMA doesn't need to get involved cuz their track record is exactly peachy. This is what's on my mind on this Monday...well, now Tuesday.
Shrub wants money for that other failed war.
By the way, good night and Happy Fascism Awareness Week!!! I'm tapping my neighbors phone in celebration tonight!
Tequila @ 25:
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This is because the Kurds were living too peacefully. Turkey and the Kurds have history. Bush is cashing in his chips with Turkey. Why else did he NOT want the Armenian Genocide addressed these last few weeks. Because addressing it and taking a hard line AGAINST Turkey would not have benefited Bush's US's hegemonic plans what so ever. A bit of a conflict in it's own design... NO?
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hey guys, Elizabeth Dole's Deomcratic Senate challenger in N.C. has just confirmed that he is gay. Dole's looking vulnerable, but this guy's going to need all the support he can get to beat her and put a gay man in the Senate!
Scary night to post at C&L. Peace. Outta here.
Right after the Angora (Lake Tahoe) fire I seemed to recall a number of complaints aired that the fire was increased because environmentalist wouldn't permit cutting down dead (online you usually find it spelled out DEAD) trees.
Didn't hear as much about the assessment made by the forest service that noted in its summary that while fuel treatment (clearing) worked as intended, houses provided a large source for additional structure fires.
Thing Fish @ 34:
Well you never do, do you. And if it is brought up, it's dismissed as lies. Can't win for losing, eh?
Thing Fish: No one in California wants to admit that over-development is the main cause of those fires, because that would mean putting a limit on the number of houses in that part of the state, and it would lead to less rich, dumb people property taxes.
[Really. How hard is it for you to understand? We ask, very nicely, that 9/11 conspiracy theories not be discussed or linked to at this site. It is the siteowner's wish. Are you incapable of understanding this? Is it big fun to slip one through? Please, Max-1, you've been posting here for a long time. Please respect John's wishes about this-Sitemonitor]
fiver @ 33:
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Let's see...
What CAN we talk about in an open thread, anyway?
Anything but...
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Back where I grew up it was the Pine Barrens that caught fire every now and again. You could go outside and see the smoke plumes from 40-50 miles away. No biggie.
Then people started to build houses in the barrens. Then any fire became a disaster.
Thing Fish @ 39:
Just like building in a flood plain...
bush just keeps deceiving and deceiving the American public. there is no lie
he won't speak. i am tired of the bastard and his "handy" helper cheney.
this administration is more criminal then nixon and they make his administration
look like "tea in the afternoon".
send these two bastards to face their karma.
Tequila @ 36:
Surprise, surprise. Rush is pushing that point in his insight to today's fires -- http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102207/content/01125106.html... (It's up to you if you want to follow it or not.)
Wait. Dead trees lead to too many trees "sucking out the water"... OMG! Zombie trees!
I guess Rush wasn't paying attention to those Californians who prefer to waste sprinkler water on sidewalks instead of hosing the damn grass themselves.
The Malibu fire was set off by downed power lines. As usual, the fire companies were able to keep it under control.
The Orange County and San Diego fires -- FAR more destructive -- holocausts of flame blowing at sixty miles an hour. A quarter of a million people evacuated. NO sign of the "California National Guard.
And NO ACTION on logging out the tinder dry DEAD pines which ignited this inferno. The bark beetle devastation of Orange and San Diego pine trees has been known to the state and the federal government for five years. Those trees were the bright white torches you can see in the video coverage from the air. They should have been logged out, five years ago, to reduce the fire danger.
Instead, bridges not repaired and dikes not fixed under Bush (and the fake governor of California, as one of his first acts blocking and delaying the Bay Bridge seismic upgrade), now have a new iteration of the list.
JOBS, lots of them, could have been given to lots of young men and women to log out those dead trees, those fuses for a disaster.
When the Northridge quake happened, and Schwarztika went on the Tonight Show and joked about how he and his body-builder pals damaged quake victims' homes in order to drive up the cost of repair.
He gave a press conference, ya. He did nothing to save those homes, the natural beauty of California, the critical vegetation to control mudslides (next in the pattern), absolutely stinking nothing.
Talked about Hydrogen cars, and made himself $121,285,903 in special interest pocket money. So when the rest of America is paying for whatever payout the compassionate House of Representatives OKs against a stream of sewage from the Republicans gets passed, you have the Rapepublicans to thank, for acting in time to prevent another disaster -- that they wouldn't profit on sorrow by acting in time.
[Deleted - We don't condone shaving with butter - sitemonitor]
Tequila @ 3:
Chairman Waxman just caught Eric Prince & Blackwater in tax evasion -- and caught the DoJ failing to alert the Congress or pursue prosecution.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?p=867
Tequila @ 36:
That's the wrong thesis. The overdevelopment is why the fires are such disasters. It certainly does not cause the fires.
These fires were fed into an inferno by the failure to log out the dead trees.
Don't bolt down the bridge, don't fix the pumps, don't train National Guard, don't BUY waterdropping helicopters -- just blow away the troops and the bucks for the entertainment of the pResident and gOvernator, and their pals.
It's NOT the fault of the people or first-responders in the Twin Towers, the people of New Orleans, or the people in San Diego and Orange. It's the fault of our FAKE RAPEPUBLICAN government.
And the people who have donated the most special interest money to Schwarztika are REAL ESTATE DEVELOPERS.
Gee, I wonder who is going to profit the most off these convenient fires.
Disaster Capitalism, the New Rapepublican Party.
Not for People with Families.
Thing Fish @ 34 "Right after the Angora (Lake Tahoe) fire I seemed to recall a number of complaints aired that the fire was increased because environmentalist wouldn't permit cutting down dead ...trees."
That's a clever bit of obfuscation. The 'environmentalists' in the Forest Service who SCREAMED for years about this problem, the fire departments who have screamed about this problem -- deaf ears, installed by the people who gutted FEMA and the US Treasury.
Thinking back, you might remember airline pilots unions screaming in the 1960s about the need for locking cabin doors. The Rapepublican solution to PREVENT Nine-eleven? Bust the pilots union, put the reports in a safe, and do nothing.
StirFry @ 28:
OR BLACKWATER. That's help no one wants.
Islamo-fascist Awareness Week. Do you know how hurtin' that makes the USA look? There is no such "animal" as an Islamo-fascist. Why not call them commies and witches,. and big poo-poo's too. It sounds-- yet again-- like America is being run by kindergarten children.
So what's up with this Islamofascist awareness week? It seems like it is going to take place mostly at what people would consider the more "liberal" universities. However, here at the University of South Carolina, I haven't heard one thing about it. Not that I am complaining, just think it's strange.
The hypocrisy and double standards of the US is unbelievable.
(1) There's Condi Rice, who lied us into Iraq because of her lies about a mushroom cloud, now urging RESTRAINT by Turkey after their soldiers were killed by Kurds. (2) The US urges Turkey not to enter Iraq, but let's not forget it sanctioned and encouraged Israel to decimate Lebanon after only two of its soldiers were captured by Hezballah.
(3) The US entered Iraq without one Iraqi attacking the US and with lies about its WMD, yet now wants to drop a nuclear bomb on Iran just because of pressure from Israel, which was not a signatoree of the non proliferation Treaty but built a bomb anyway without interpherence from the US, and which knows that even if Iran wants to build one it is at least five years away.
(4) Since Turkey has attacked Iraq, something Iran has not, why doesn't the US attack Turkey? Why not attack Saudi Arabia which has been financing and supporting the Sunnis all along with weapons ? Or better yet, using Israel's strategy, why not attack every country on the planet "just in case"?
Bush’s Request for Wars Increases to $196 Billion
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/washington/23prexy.html?_r=2&hp=&adxnn...
Ron Paul said in response to a question on CSPAN that he would consider Dennis Kucinich as a running mate. This would be an excellent way to dissolve our two BS political parties and get some reason in the White House.
This morning I'm just wondering why life can't be more like an episode of "Clifford"... seems like everyone gets along pretty well there.
Taarak @ 9:
Yes... and I wanted one of Apu's infamous chutney Squishies!
Thing Fish @ 34:
Exactly. Build wooden houses in an arid climate, and what the fuck did you think was going to happen? Almost as stupid as building million dollar McMansions on barrier islands and cry that a hurricane wiped them out... there's a reason why they're called barrier islands... they're barriers to the fucking hurricanes!!
Here's a good story for an open thread:
I grew up in a Roselle, NJ, a blue collar town. We went to an all boy, Catholic HS. About 14 years later, in 1986, my brother got married and one of his good buddies came to the wedding. Having to drive down the Garden State Parkway about 20 miles to the reception, I jumped in an old pickup truck this guy owned, and off we headed, torching up a fattie and swigging down a bottle of champagne en route. Half lit and near our destination, we then slowed down at he toll booth, and, instead of tossing in a quarter, this guy speeds through and says, "No way! I'm morally opposed to tolls!"
I was laughing hysterically and scared at the same time that we'd be busted. Shortly thereafter, this guy went to Hollywood to try his hand in the A/V world (remember Audio/Visual, old timers?) and there he staying crafting his trade. He now lives in Malibu, is a neighbor and friend of Mel Gibson, and has numerous documentaries and TV awards to his credit.
Follow your dreams. Eddie (a/k/a) Eamon did.
Good for your, Easy Eddie! You done us proud!
Paul in LA @ 46:
Well, tax evasion is what brought down Capone... then again, that was then and this now. I have a feeling that the most that will ever come out of this is a non-binding resolution in Congress denouncing Blackwater... and the vote will fail by a narrow margin.
Conrad Black languishes in his Florida mansion awaiting sentencing for his corporate crimes next month. The story of his downfall is really the story of how the marriage of government and corporate interests will co-mingle and work together for a common goal.
I often wonder what went on in his mind as his Board of Directors became controlled as revealed in the Breeden Report by names long known as operating on the fringes of the Intel community.
To learn more here is an SEC link to the Breeden Report.
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/868512/000095012304010413/y01437e...
The fact that Black stands convicted of fraud in the form of "non-competition payments" directly related to the sale of various holdings is not the only story.
Publications like the Chicago Sun Times and the Jerusalem Post as well as many other media outlets were flipped over a period of time up the the SEC pulling the plug on Hollinger in 2003.
How many other examples of strategic boardroom takeover of vast media holdings by any means possible are out there. In Blacks case IMO it involved turning a blind eye while the corporation was being robbed.
This is Fascism folks. Not some guy in a cave on the other side of the world.
Blue Buddha @ 59:
Ride that bummer all the way down, if that's what does it for you.
But you have a VERY poor opinion of the enforcement power of the IRS, once Chairman Waxman has put his tennis shoe up their tuckus sideways.
Daily Reading pt 1...
Billions of Dollars More of Our Tax Money Down the Rabbit Hole: Bush Asks Congress For $46 Billion More In War Funding. "The latest spending proposal brings the total current fiscal year request for Iraq, Afghanistan and counterterrorism operations to $196.4 billion, by far the largest annual tally since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001."
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/22/AR200710...
For scientists, global warming is a disaster movie, its opening scenes set at the poles of Earth. The epic already has started. Where explorer Robert Peary just 102 years ago saw "a great white disk stretching away apparently infinitely", there is often nothing now but open water. "It affects everyone," said Carin Ashjian, a scientist who spent early September with native Inupiats in Barrow, the northernmost town of Alaska. "The only ice I saw this year was in my cup at the cafeteria."
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR200710...
At the Poles, Melting Occurring at Alarming Rate...The scenario is not new. What is most alarming to the scientists is the speed at which it is unfolding. A decade ago, melting at the poles was predicted to play out over 100 years. Instead, it is happening on a scale scientists describe as overnight.
Continent-Size "Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch" Is Growing - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2007/1...
The only solution is to reduce our production and consumption of plastic products.
California Fires Force 300,000 to Flee - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/22/AR200710...
Fueled by gale-force desert winds and chaparral turned to tinder by the driest year on record.
Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says new study - http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html
World oil production has already peaked and will fall by half as soon as 2030, according to a report which also warns that extreme shortages of fossil fuels will lead to wars and social breakdown.
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
Naomi Klein: Outsourcing Government - http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2007/10/outsourcing-government
The Boeing-contracted prototype border fence debacle exposes the faulty logic of the Bush administration's vision of a hollowed-out government with contractors treating the state as an ATM, withdrawing massive contracts and making deposits in the form of campaign contributions.
The public sector is rapidly losing the ability to fulfill its most basic responsibilities. The Bush team plays the role of deep-pocketed venture capitalist, letting the contractors tell the state what to do, how to do it, and how much it will cost.
MSNBC: "Army to keep forcibly re-enlisting soldiers" - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21362930/
Daily Reading pt 2...
Valerie Plame writes about being outed as a CIA agent for political reasons - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21380576/
James Circello: Open Letter to the Government from an AWOL Soldier - http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/circello
Republican Plan Succeeds: Don't Rebuild Housing for the Poor in New Orleans, Keep the Minority Dem Vote Dispersed in Other States, and Turn the State to the Right
- http://www.nola.com/news/t-p/frontpage/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1193033982248640.xml&coll=1
Stephanie Miller Kicks Butt on "Hardball" in Regards to Pete Stark's Moment of Truth - http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-us&vid=045e7ec4-a46a-40bc-80a6-d3...
Pakistan, new home of terrorism. Another Bush Blunder. - http://www.newsweek.com/id/57485
Today no other country on earth is arguably more dangerous than Pakistan.It has everything bin Laden could ask for: political instability, a trusted network of radical Islamists, an abundance of angry young anti-Western recruits, secluded training areas, access to state-of-the-art electronic technology, regular air service to the West and security services that don't always do what they're supposed to do.Then there's the country's large and growing nuclear program.
Phelps Church on Trial for Protests at Soldiers' Funerals - http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/carroll/bal-church1022,0,366866.s...
Evidence of Tax Evasion by Blackwater: Cong. Henry Waxman - http://oversight.house.gov/story.asp?ID=1562
The Rude Pundit: The Republican Debate: Who's the Biggest Manwhore? - http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2007/10/republican-debate-whos-biggest-ma...
Daily Reading pt 1...
Billions of Dollars More of Our Tax Money Down the Rabbit Hole: Bush Asks Congress For $46 Billion More In War Funding. "The latest spending proposal brings the total current fiscal year request for Iraq, Afghanistan and counterterrorism operations to $196.4 billion, by far the largest annual tally since the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001."
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/22/AR200710...
For scientists, global warming is a disaster movie, its opening scenes set at the poles of Earth. The epic already has started. Where explorer Robert Peary just 102 years ago saw "a great white disk stretching away apparently infinitely", there is often nothing now but open water. "It affects everyone," said Carin Ashjian, a scientist who spent early September with native Inupiats in Barrow, the northernmost town of Alaska. "The only ice I saw this year was in my cup at the cafeteria."
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/21/AR200710...
At the Poles, Melting Occurring at Alarming Rate...The scenario is not new. What is most alarming to the scientists is the speed at which it is unfolding. A decade ago, melting at the poles was predicted to play out over 100 years. Instead, it is happening on a scale scientists describe as overnight.
Continent-Size "Pacific Ocean Garbage Patch" Is Growing - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2007/1...
The only solution is to reduce our production and consumption of plastic products.
California Fires Force 300,000 to Flee - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/22/AR200710...
Fueled by gale-force desert winds and chaparral turned to tinder by the driest year on record.
Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says new study - http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html
World oil production has already peaked and will fall by half as soon as 2030, according to a report which also warns that extreme shortages of fossil fuels will lead to wars and social breakdown.
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
Naomi Klein: Outsourcing Government - http://www.naomiklein.org/articles/2007/10/outsourcing-government
The Boeing-contracted prototype border fence debacle exposes the faulty logic of the Bush administration's vision of a hollowed-out government with contractors treating the state as an ATM, withdrawing massive contracts and making deposits in the form of campaign contributions.
The public sector is rapidly losing the ability to fulfill its most basic responsibilities. The Bush team plays the role of deep-pocketed venture capitalist, letting the contractors tell the state what to do, how to do it, and how much it will cost.
MSNBC: "Army to keep forcibly re-enlisting soldiers" - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21362930/
Sorry Mods...please delete, last post
Republicans just don't get it. In 2008, the people want change....
Papers? I Don’t See Any Papers.
A couple days ago, a commenter on a post to FDL (sorry, haven't found it again) suggested that if the Senate is so eager to pass such 'sense of the senate resolutions' as a condemnation of MoveOn, there ought to be one condemning Bush for his signing statements and refusal to obey the law. His contempt for the Constitution is deplorable at best; treasonable at worst. As I emailed to my senator, Chris Dodd, , in the Constitution Congress with its responsibilities and perks comes before the establishment of the executive branch. He has shown welcome backbone and should, if he can, convert it to the jawbone of an ass, and put an objection to the president's unlawful behavior on record even if it fails to pass. It will at least put the issue back into the news.
Audit: ‘Disarray’ on $1.2 billion Iraq contract
U.S. can’t account for DynCorp performance in training police, report says
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21428395/
interesting thing i found last night on the internet, old timers will remember van johnson from the movies , well i found out he was still alive after all these yrs hes around 91 and lives in a retirement home in new york, happy birthday van!
stop your whining and look at the real cause of the problem:
IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!!!
Paul:
Not entirely true. The over-development hurts the topsoil by depriving precious nutrients to the local plant life, thus weakening the plants in the face of hotter days like the last couple of days.
Oh, and unlike us, the EU isn't afraid to call a monopoly a monopoly.
How Harry Potter might change America
It ain't just about teh gay!
I don't get why the Dumbledore is gay article isn't allowing comments but ....
1. This was kind of news last week.
2. I was wondering what was taking the fundies so long to get their panties in a twist.
3. Like the god fobbers need another excuse to hate the "devilworshipping" harry potter.
4. Hooray for JK!!! Hooray for Dumbledore! I always loved his character.
MargeAggedon @ 71:
Reich-wingers always throw a hissy fit when a homosexual is mentioned....unless, of course, it is one of their own.
Gekke @ 4:
You are quite wrong. There is nothing more important then the events of September 11, 2001. The Patriot Act, the Military commissions Act, the war in Iraq, the loss of most of our Constitutional rights, the fear-base, paranoia in our society is ALL based on the horrible day.
Until a real, unbaised investigation holds all those in the conspiracy responsible for their actions we will move closer and closer to a state of martial law.
And as to telling people to literally "shut up" and be happy, well, you know how that looks Gekke...
If this is indeed a site that Nicole talked about the other day that is here to reveal the lies in our government "story" on all levels, this issue about "that day" has GOT to be the main one.
Paul in LA @ 49:
I should've made it clearer that I thought the complaints about not being able to cut down trees (versus clearing undergrowth) right after the fire sounded like someone pushing a talking point. Never saw any backup for the complaint. Just the same complaint made over and over; but without any proof.
tyree, i honestly thought that i had read only a few weeks ago that van johnson had died. he gave me a lot of pleasure as a kid. his shows were always pure escapism. i remember one in particular with judy garland where they both worked in a music store and they communicated with one another but unbeknownst to one another until the end of the movie. i think it became the basis for a tom hanks movie in this era. you've got mail. Pure escapism, but i think we need that occasionally. anyway, i thought i had read that he had died recently. no i haven't done a web search yet.
tyree just did a web search. i was wrong. he's still alive and kicking.
no longer a proud american @ 79:
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