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Well, it looks like the R vs. D balance is slightly more in order this week. John Edwards gets to double dip appearances on Face the Nation and Late Edition;, more power to him since the media has been doing such a good job of ignoring him up until now. I'm sure that Rudy "2% in South Carolina" Giuliani will be trying to convince one and all that despite 9/11, his campaign is going exactly the way he planned it, 9/11. And normally I love Doris Kearns Goodwin (her book Team of Rivals on Abraham Lincoln is fantastic), but I fear that Timmeh will have her on only to tell us, the lowly electorate, that no one has won the South Carolina primary and not gotten the party nomination, priming us for the inevitable Democrat vs. McCain battle.

What's catching your eye this morning?

ABC's "This Week" - Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani and Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y.

CBS' "Face the Nation" - Former Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C.; David Axelrod, strategist for Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign; Howard Wolfson, communications director for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign.

NBC's "Meet the Press" - Doris Kearns Goodwin, presidential historian.

CNN's "Late Edition" - Edwards; Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.; Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C.; Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, D-D.C.; Gov. Tim Kaine, D-Va.

"Fox News Sunday" - Former Gov. Mitt Romney of Massachusetts and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y .

"The Chris Matthews Show" - with panel Rick Stengel, Kathleen Parker, Cynthia Tucker and Howard Fineman. Topics: If Hillary wins, what will Bill's role be in the White House? Can any Republican win if the economy enters a recession?

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Truth B Told's picture

Look at all the hacks and front men for the Council on Foreign relations as guests, and also as hosts of these so-called shows.

It's a show alright.... one of smoke and mirrors.

Some Guy's picture

Ugh, Giuliani getting more air time. Ron Paul gets more votes and is roundly ignored. Giuliani is sucking wind and they cannot let him go. Ish.

Hooray for Edwards getting air time, though. You know people want him to withdraw on their program, though, which is why they have him on. Looking for the exclusive. Maybe Schieffer won't be that way, he seems to be the most professional of the Sunday bobble-heads. Steph-infection as come to grate on my nerves. Just once he needs to tell Will to STFU.

Jesusturnedwaterboardingintowhine's picture

Look for lots of "recession" talk.

But honestly, how can we be in a recession when Bushco was able to implement the very same tax cuts for the wealthy so long sought after by compassionate conservative economic stimulus junkies looking for a fix--the ones in fact that if ever implemented would resurrect Ronald Reagan himself from his early grave so that he could once again trickle down on us, weak stream and all.

Well, as they say, don't trickle down on my leg and tell me it's raining.

Faux News Opinion Poll, January 20, 2008

Please vote:

Why is the trickle down theory perfect?

A. Because shit flows downhill. Those who use their bootstraps as God intended will avoid receiving it with open arms.
B. It is most logical: There are rich and there are poor. God favors the rich by definition. God is perfect. Ergo shit flowing
downhill is perfect.
C. If the economy is shitty, I mean really, really shitty, you’ve got to do something with all the shit.
D. All of the above.

Eric in Ottawa's picture

It's true that Rudy 9/11 declining, but 9/11 might not 9/11 out of the running 9/11.

Mugsy's picture

Looking at the delegate count, I've noticed that, despite the fact Obama has not won a single Primary yet, he still leads Hillary in number of Delegates, 25 to 24 (with Edwards at 18).

John's picture

I'd hardly call 9 Democratics and 2 Republicans balanced.

Andy K's picture

Mugsy @ 5:

Looking at the delegate count, I've noticed that, despite the fact Obama has not won a single Primary yet, he still leads Hillary in number of Delegates, 25 to 24 (with Edwards at 18).

What, Mugsy, are ya bein' a smaetass, or don't you count Iowa's caucus as a primary?

Mugsy's picture

What would be interesting is a video collage of Chris Wallace's questions of Mitt Romney. He likes to bring up good points, and then asks a "follow-up" that "defends" the candidates' point-of-view.

Ex: Wallace to Romney after R talks of "knowing how to create jobs": Massachusetts had the 3rd worst job growth in the US and the 3rd worst Manufacturing job losses in the country. How can Americans trustyou to know how to create jobs?" Romney cites his business record. Wallace then points out how bad EVERY state was doing at the time during that same period.

LOL.

Mugsy's picture

Just a reminder, today is January 20th... "INAUGURATION DAY". Only 1 year left!

jr's picture

Rudy's new Tourette's phrase is "we lowered the hotel occupancy tax"

Mugsy's picture

LOL on FnS: Photo of Garden Gnomes that look like Kristol. :)

Mr. XXXX's picture

I hope nobody is so bored, or, without a life, as to waste their valuable Sunday morning, watching “The Chris Matthews Show!”

Go for a walk and enjoy the outdoors. Please do not watch the mindless “The Chris Matthews Show,” or any of these other superficial-propaganda Sunday morning, political b.j. fests.

Mr. XXXX's picture

Doris Kearns Goodwin had to throw one of her books into the publisher's trash bin because she plagiarized the thing.

Although Doris Kearns Goodwin has made somewhat of a comeback, one cannot deny that she lacks credibility as a bonafide "historian," after that very serious crime. Well, I am sure that Doris Kearns Goodwin's "credibility as a historian" will ever be asked of her by the nimwits at NBC or by her little boy Chris Matthews.

L.A. Confidential's picture

MARLTON, N.J. - An executive of a collapsed subprime mortgage lender jumped to his death from a bridge Friday.

Walter Buczynski was a vice president of Columbia, Md.-based Fieldstone Mortgage Co., a high-flying subprime mortgage lender that made $5.5 billion in mortgage loans and employed about 1,000 people as late as 2006.

Clevenative's picture

PLEASE tell me that Peggy Noonan has not signed on with MSNBC. I saw her last night commentating on the primary elections and again this morning on Meet The Press. I WILL stop watching MSNBC if she becomes "a regular".

This woman makes my skin crawl. Her smug, snobish, stuck-up, nose-in-the-air, better-than-though attitude along with that matching fake queen’s english accent is enough to make me want to vomit every time I see her. Her persona seems so contrite and artificial, the only place I could possibly take her character seriously is in a cartoon. She is so "proper" - I want to just drag her into a strip club and make her watch the show just to see how long it would take before she was up there riding the pole. Her photo belongs in the dictionary next to the word "bitch".

Rico's picture

A little after 10 AM EST and it's much like I expected...it's about horse-races and beauty contests. Issues? Nobody has time for that.

I think I finally figured it all out....it's about restoration and going backwards. A new vision for America? Furgettaboutit. It's not in the grand plan.

Mr. XXXX's picture

John McCain's family material wealth was built on the backs of slave labor. In fact, McCain's great-grandfather owned slaves....

I wonder when the media will expose this "maverick" on this little bit of McCain "legacy"?

L.A. Confidential's picture

Well, it's another Sunmonday

More caffeine, sugar, come on lets hurry up now, life is nasty, brutish and short! Can't waste time.

Mugsy's picture

Andy K @ 7:

Mugsy @ 5:

Looking at the delegate count, I've noticed that, despite the fact Obama has not won a single Primary yet, he still leads Hillary in number of Delegates, 25 to 24 (with Edwards at 18).

What, Mugsy, are ya bein' a smaetass, or don't you count Iowa's caucus as a primary?

This about it. What are the differences between a Primary and a Caucus? A Caucus takes place in public where people can SEE who you support, and lots of horse-trading goes on, where "second choice" can make the difference between a win or a loss.

In caucus states, Hillary is rarely anyone's "second choice". If a voter's candidate doesn't win, they shift to their second choice. In a Primary, the vote is secret and there is no "second choice", so if you vote for anyone other than the top-two, your vote is lost. So in Primaries, Hillary wins because Obama and Edwards must split the anti-Hillary vote.

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Mugsy @ 19:

Andy K @ 7:

Mugsy @ 5:

Looking at the delegate count, I've noticed that, despite the fact Obama has not won a single Primary yet, he still leads Hillary in number of Delegates, 25 to 24 (with Edwards at 18).

What, Mugsy, are ya bein' a smaetass, or don't you count Iowa's caucus as a primary?

This about it.

(make that "think" about it. :)

Mugsy's picture

Edwards' positive words about Obama makes me think he is considering Obama for the VP slot, which would be a great choice.

While both will have the same amount of experience by November, I agree with Edwards' politics more. After eight years in the White House as VP, Obama would be a much more experienced candidate, and an Edwards/Obama ticket would coalesce the anti-Hillary vote. But Edwards needs to start winning to even be considered to head a ticket.

James M. Martin's picture

You listed Doris Kearns Goodwin as a pundit on this week's Meet the Press, but you failed to note that others included that mackerel snap editor from Newsweek, Jon Meacham; that cryto-fascist from the Murdoch Street Journal, Peggy Noonan, and that elistist prig formerly from NBC, Tom Brokaw. What a bunch of losers! Goodwin has been shown to be a plagiarist; Meacham is a Dangerous Lunatic (def: anyone who believes that Man first appeared on earth 6,000 years ago and that he walked with dinosaurs); Noonan is a lockstep neocon, and Brokaw is...well...Brokaw.

Incidentally, someone should tell Browkaw that the winner-take-all auto race involving old stripped cars that roll around a rink intentionally crashing into other entrants and trying to be the last car standing is not a "wrecker derby"; it's a Demolition Derby. Seems those "rural" types are at least clever enough to use a little alliteration now and then. Brokaw, in limiting their venues to "rural America," also makes the mistake of assuming that all D.D. fans are hicks and rednecks. Not so. One of the biggest, most heavily attended D.D.'s in the nation is on Long Island. So, the car crash crapshoot is at least suburban. Having attended a few myself, I can attest, they're a lot more entertaining than Tom Brokaw.

Winston's picture

IMHO this is what is playing out.

The Repukes have zero chance of getting the white house. The CFR has chosen Hillary as the next appointed or is that annointed? Edwards is very very useful as he is splitting the "change" vote (which is clearly the majortiy) with Obama. Any good progressive will like what Edwards is saying yet, least we forget, he was Skull N Bones' Kerry's running mate and somehow has transformed into the progressive model despite his VOTING RECORD as a senator. Oh yeah....he said he was "sorry" for voting for a war that any amateur historian could see it was LIES, yet he didnt know because he was just a lowly senator.

Im sorry folks.....you (meaning the people) elect NO ONE. The sooner you realize this, the sooner we can really create change.

carefulwiththatAXEeugene's picture

i don' think i've ever seen that many dems.

Rico's picture

Winston @ 23:

...I'm sorry folks.....you (meaning the people) elect NO ONE. The sooner you realize this, the sooner we can really create change.

At least the plutocrats let us pretend to have a say every four years. That's something.

nonbeliever's picture

Katrina vanden Heuvel had a nice soundbite on This Week. She said McLame puts a polite face on war mongering.

Rula Lenska's picture

Re Noonan: The panel line-ups on both CNN and MSNBC are populated by older pundits who have been so wrong or corrupt in the past - Ralph Reed, Bill Bennett, Nooner, the Watergate guy, and so on.

Why shouldn't Doris Kearns Goodwin be on MTP for a whole hour? She fits right in with the above cohort.

tanglewood's picture

Matthews continues to shoot his mouth off about the Clinton's--what the hell is wrong with this man? He acts like a 2 year old--apparently, he learned nothing the other day when he was spoken to by his bosses. He is beyond contempt.

I can't stand the Clinton's but I am not obsessed by them either--I support John Edwards but there is something skipping with Matthews mind.

The suits at NBC should just fire him--he's got about another 2 years on his $20 million contract, they should exercise their right and can him. He is such a showboater and it is always about Chris. What a wuss.

pernell's picture

They had Edwards on now because he is down and they can pummel him with "when are you going to drop out?" questions and then act like they gave him time all along.

Doris is a disgusting LIAR!!

I don't normally like quoting wikipedia because it has a lot of horseshit stuffed in it, but this pretty much tells the story as I understand it. Of course "Club Pumpkin Head" will NEVER dis one of its own because that would not fit into its DECEIVE AMERICA campaign.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doris_Kearns_Goodwin

The January 18, 2002, issue of The Weekly Standard made a case for Doris Kearns Goodwin as a plagiarist, arguing that her book, "The Fitzgeralds and the Kennedys," used without attribution numerous phrases and sentences from three other books: "Time to Remember," by Rose Kennedy; "The Lost Prince," by Hank Searl; and "Kathleen Kennedy: Her Life and Times," by Lynne McTaggart.

In a March 24, 2002, interview with the Associated Press, McTaggart said, "If somebody takes a third of somebody's book, which is what happened to me, they are lifting out the heart and guts of somebody else's individual expression."

Once this was made public – and the almost identical phrases in Goodwin’s book were placed in numerous newspaper and magazine articles side by side with the originals in question - Goodwin admitted that she had previously reached a large "private settlement" with McTaggart over the issue.

An August 2002 Los Angeles Times story by Peter King reported that there were many passages in Goodwin’s book on the Roosevelts ("No Ordinary Time") that were apparently lifted directly from Joseph Lash’s "Eleanor and Franklin" and Hugh Gregory Gallagher’s "FDR’s Splendid Deception," as well as other books.

Radian's picture

Today's Chicago Tribune has more on Obama donating some tainted campaign money to charity.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-rezko_both_20jan20,0,787...

chris's picture

Mugsy @ 21:

Edwards' positive words about Obama makes me think he is considering Obama for the VP slot, which would be a great choice.

While both will have the same amount of experience by November, I agree with Edwards' politics more. After eight years in the White House as VP, Obama would be a much more experienced candidate, and an Edwards/Obama ticket would coalesce the anti-Hillary vote. But Edwards needs to start winning to even be considered to head a ticket.

That would mean Edwards would have to
A. Win the nomination
B. Win the white house

It anit happen...

Mr. XXXX's picture

nonbeliever @ 26:

Katrina vanden Heuvel had a nice soundbite on This Week. She said McLame puts a polite face on war mongering.

Katrina vanden Heuvel is great and knows an awful lot. I wish she had her own show. She can argue with the best of them and make the likes of Pat Buchanan and Chrissy "Poo-Poo" Matthews look very foolish, indeed. Katrina knows a liar when she sees one and is correct about "John Insane McCain."

andrew's picture

...scoff all you want -- the tickets will be McCain and a Conservative to be named later v. Billary / Wes Clark...the Billary haters will turn out and elect McCain...sorry to say and sad, but true...wait & see...

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