It's become obvious, in the course of all the current disputes about Obesity/Poor People, and Food Stamps, that the best way to lose weight is to become rich.

Since reducing taxes for the folks who own businesses, and/or own lots of stock, and/or are entrepreneurs, and/or are very rich, stimulates the economy, creates jobs, and makes it possible for the rest of us to survive, the only intelligent tax policy is to not tax the rich.

Since we'll still need some money to run the country, and the Chinese are getting a little touchy about us always touching them up for loans, we'll just have to get the money we need by taxing the non-rich.

It's a small price to pay, after all, 'They' do it all 'Just for Us'.

Just tell me when to grab my pitchfork and light my torch.

Breaking :Hillary to Dump ‘Comeback Kid,’ and Resume Campaign with ‘Guitar Hero’

just got done watching "bobby". emilio estevez did an amazing job with an all-star cast.

kind of eerie how similar rfk's last speech, in california, is to the one obama gave last night. i know it's kinda unhip for those of us on the left to say it, but holy christ i pray obama's secret service do a better job than bobby's did.

don't be naive senator obama -and always maintain a sober and physically fit team.

Like everything in our gov-ment!
Uncontrollable U.S. Spy Satellite To Hit Earth

1) Cut taxes for the super rich.

2) Then shift the tax burden to the poor and middle class.

3) Then use the increased tax burden on the poor and middle class to pay for wars to protect the interests of the super rich and the corporations.

4) Then cut the domestic programs we can no longer afford that benefit the poor and middle class due to the resulting deficit caused by these upper class tax cuts and wars.

Republican economic and national security policy in a nutsell.

lafin gas @ 11:

Like everything in our gov-ment!
Uncontrollable U.S. Spy Satellite To Hit Earth

Shot down by the Chinese.

US government will not name China for fear of them dumping Treasury securities, collapsing the dollar.

ROM Spaceknight @ 9:

don't be naive senator obama -and always maintain a sober and physically fit team.

No, you're not the only one this has occured to.

roooth @ 17:

ROM Spaceknight @ 9:

don't be naive senator obama -and always maintain a sober and physically fit team.

No, you're not the only one this has occured to.

I've thought about it a great deal. I remember my father telling stories about how much hope he felt in JFK only to have that dashed. Then when Bobby came up he was filled with joy. Here was a man that could bring real change only to have him shot down - in California - at a hotel. We are now going into California. Obama will be in the middle of two Kennedy's on stage (caroline and ted). He will be at a debate their and presumably staying at a hotel.

Yea, wow - let's hope he makes it through. When you challenge the establishment things end badly.

I can't wait til enough people are woken up to actually do something new in this country. From the looks of Google Video's Most Viewed top five it looks like that time might be soon approaching.

lafin gas @ 11:

Shouldn't have been part of my post.

Ruthless People @ 13:

1) Cut taxes for the super rich.

2) Then shift the tax burden to the poor and middle class.

3) Then use the increased tax burden on the poor and middle class to pay for wars to protect the interests of the super rich and the corporations.

4) Then cut the domestic programs we can no longer afford that benefit the poor and middle class due to the resulting deficit caused by these upper class tax cuts and wars.

Republican economic and national security policy in a nutsell.

5) Then just before the next election dip into the Inexhaustible Treasury and send a $300 check to every lower & middle class tax payer to give the impression "we care" -- while passing even bigger tax breaks for the Corporate Masters.

hareli @ 26:

budda @ 16:

hareli @ 14:

What the right-wing faction of Israel have in store for the USA, courtesy of McCain, Lieberman, and Hillary (see my post at #2 above and follow the links for corroboration):

We must coordinate independent strike with US, prepare for Iranian response - Brigadier General Oded Tira.

President Bush lacks the political power to attack Iran. As an American strike in Iran is essential for our existence, we must help him pave the way by lobbying the Democratic Party (which is conducting itself foolishly) and US newspaper editors. We need to do this in order to turn the Iranian issue to a bipartisan one and unrelated to the Iraq failure.

We must turn to Hillary Clinton and other potential presidential candidates in the Democratic Party so that they publicly support immediate action by Bush against Iran. We should also approach European countries so that they support American actions in Iran, so that Bush will not be isolated in the international arena again.

Hillary is a tool of Israel. I know some Israeli supporters were mad at Obama last year for not being forceful enough in his support - that makes me like him even more. I wish Israel would just go away and in that Washington, DC wouldn't be Israeli occupied territory anymore. Israel is using South African apartied and it's about time we had an American government that told Israel what to do with their lobby money.

budda, I was born in Israel and I feel the same way you do. Right-wing pro-war Israelis are still pissed at Obama. They are also the ones that support the war crime of Israeli apartheid. I just luuuuv the progressive left here. Screech, yell, scream about Bush, then lick his ass and more when it comes to the barbarism that Israel visits upon Palestinians.

thank you for bringing your perspective, as a citizen by birth, i wish more people could see the vile israeli government for what they are

America is fucked, i guess that covers all angles ;)

I am not sure if you saw the 60 Minutes interview today of FBI Agent George Piro who interrogated Saddam Hussein. I found intresting that they learned that there were no WMDs straight from the horses mouth but failed to inform our politicians or at least it seems the memo has not reached the Republicans as they are still hell bent that they were and are still there. Check out the video here on youtube.

MountainMan23 @ 25:

Ruthless People @ 13:

1) Cut taxes for the super rich.

2) Then shift the tax burden to the poor and middle class.

3) Then use the increased tax burden on the poor and middle class to pay for wars to protect the interests of the super rich and the corporations.

4) Then cut the domestic programs we can no longer afford that benefit the poor and middle class due to the resulting deficit caused by these upper class tax cuts and wars.

Republican economic and national security policy in a nutsell.

5) Then just before the next election dip into the Inexhaustible Treasury and send a $300 check to every lower & middle class tax payer to give the impression "we care" -- while passing even bigger tax breaks for the Corporate Masters.

If the people start to wise up and question where their tax dollars are going, raise the terror threat level to scare them back into willing submission.

lafin gas @ 32:

Ron @ 30:

Hey, I can't be here allthe time. I'm still waiting for an answer to this phenonynom.

It still doesn’t make sense that the percentages remained almost exact as the votes came in. If there is someone out there that can explain that to me, I would appreciate it.

I think you have a long wait!

No speculation on touch screens or Diebold scanners. WOW!

Remember:Use Absent t ballots, they can be traced and recounted. 'We won't be fooled again'.

wisedup @ 36:

Remember:Use Absent t ballots, they can be traced and recounted. 'We won't be fooled again'.

I scan mine to my computer.

That was dumb.
If you give tax cuts to businesses they use that money to grow and expand there business which leads to more jobs which leads to more consumer spending which helps the economy.
There was an article on Fox Sports that Shaq O'Neill paid 15.4 million dollars in taxes last year, that more than anyone on this site pays combine there whole life. So why doesn't he get a tax break since he's the one thats pay the most taxes? Rich people pay taxes, poor people don't ! Moreover, if you extend unemployment benefits it takes away the incentive for people to get a job, seen it happen a few times!!

Chris @ 40:

That was dumb.
If you give tax cuts to businesses they use that money to grow and expand there business which leads to more jobs which leads to more consumer spending which helps the economy.
There was an article on Fox Sports that Shaq O'Neill paid 15.4 million dollars in taxes last year, that more than anyone on this site pays combine there whole life. So why doesn't he get a tax break since he's the one thats pay the most taxes? Rich people pay taxes, poor people don't ! Moreover, if you extend unemployment benefits it takes away the incentive for people to get a job, seen it happen a few times!!

Are you one of the trolls they referred to in the previous post?

Look, in every system, there are some people that will take advantage of the system. Most people have more pride in themselves and won't do that. Is any system perfect, no, but the one we have now is less perfect.

Chris @ 40:

That was dumb.
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NO, you are! Just because Shaq O’Neill doesn't know the loopholes that would decrease his taxes to zero, that is not a good example. Most corporation and ultra-rich have the know how so as not to pay any taxes. You just keep repeating the corporations talking points and have no clue that you are getting reamed from the rear with no grease. Better get your self some knee pads sonny!

Liberal AND Proud @ 45:

smike @ 8:

It is a long time until the primaries, but I'm betting (hoping) Obama.

Edwards may be the only hope. Unless it all winds up being bullshit too.

The people don't count. The politicians don't even pay us lip service anymore.

I'm still wonderiing.

It still doesn’t make sense that the percentages remained almost exact as the votes came in. If there is someone out there tht can explain that to me, I would appreciate it.

Liberal AND Proud @ 47:

Ron @ 42:

Chris @ 40:

That was dumb.
If you give tax cuts to businesses they use that money to grow and expand there business which leads to more jobs which leads to more consumer spending which helps the economy.
There was an article on Fox Sports that Shaq O'Neill paid 15.4 million dollars in taxes last year, that more than anyone on this site pays combine there whole life. So why doesn't he get a tax break since he's the one thats pay the most taxes? Rich people pay taxes, poor people don't ! Moreover, if you extend unemployment benefits it takes away the incentive for people to get a job, seen it happen a few times!!

Are you one of the trolls they referred to in the previous post?

Look, in every system, there are some people that will take advantage of the system. Most people have more pride in themselves and won't do that. Is any system perfect, no, but the one we have now is less perfect.

Go on unemployment, Chris. See how high on the hog you live.

I'm starting to think that additives are being put in food and drink to lower IQs. Probably in soft drinks, which are consumed mostly by the middle class, poor people and the ignoramuses that our collegiate level institutions seem to cookie pressing in droves.

Liberal AND Proud @ 48:

Liberal AND Proud @ 47:

Ron @ 42:

Chris @ 40:
Are you one of the trolls they referred to in the previous post?

Look, in every system, there are some people that will take advantage of the system. Most people have more pride in themselves and won't do that. Is any system perfect, no, but the one we have now is less perfect.

Go on unemployment, Chris. See how high on the hog you live.

I'm starting to think that additives are being put in food and drink to lower IQs. Probably in soft drinks, which are consumed mostly by the middle class, poor people and the ignoramuses that our collegiate level institutions seem to cookie pressing in droves.

Exactly, that's why I try to avoid those types of diets.

OliverDreams @ 51:

Ron @ 50:

Liberal AND Proud @ 48:

Liberal AND Proud @ 47:

I'm starting to think that additives are being put in food and drink to lower IQs. Probably in soft drinks, which are consumed mostly by the middle class, poor people and the ignoramuses that our collegiate level institutions seem to cookie pressing in droves.

Exactly, that's why I try to avoid those types of diets.

Fluoride in the water maybe? Something has to be up.
What else can explain why Edwards won't be nominated?
Stupid sheep.

Edwards can't be nominated as long as the corporitist control the media. Like I've said many times before, he's there, then he's not. The media has made him a halogram.

Liberal AND Proud @ 47:

Ron @ 42:

Chris @ 40:

That was dumb.
If you give tax cuts to businesses they use that money to grow and expand there business which leads to more jobs which leads to more consumer spending which helps the economy.
There was an article on Fox Sports that Shaq O'Neill paid 15.4 million dollars in taxes last year, that more than anyone on this site pays combine there whole life. So why doesn't he get a tax break since he's the one thats pay the most taxes? Rich people pay taxes, poor people don't ! Moreover, if you extend unemployment benefits it takes away the incentive for people to get a job, seen it happen a few times!!

Are you one of the trolls they referred to in the previous post?

Look, in every system, there are some people that will take advantage of the system. Most people have more pride in themselves and won't do that. Is any system perfect, no, but the one we have now is less perfect.

Go on unemployment, Chris. See how high on the hog you live.

Thats the point, it pretty much forces me to get a job or get a better education or do SOMETHING because its impossible to live on this, we do not want to create dependents..
But anyway here is the link to wikipedia that pretty much shows each of you who pays the taxes in this country, the individual who said the rich get a tax break and shift the burden to the middle class and poor just knows know what he/she is talking about.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taxation_in_the_United_States

PS. You don't think Shaq has a high priced account that tried to find him every loop whole in the book but still pays $15.4 mil?? think again..

Chris @ 40:

That was dumb.
If you give tax cuts to businesses they use that money to grow and expand there business which leads to more jobs which leads to more consumer spending which helps the economy.
There was an article on Fox Sports that Shaq O'Neill paid 15.4 million dollars in taxes last year, that more than anyone on this site pays combine there whole life. So why doesn't he get a tax break since he's the one thats pay the most taxes? Rich people pay taxes, poor people don't ! Moreover, if you extend unemployment benefits it takes away the incentive for people to get a job, seen it happen a few times!!

As much as i like Shaq what he makes for playing a game is obscene. Poor people don't pay taxes? Do you walk with that brain?

xoites defends Constitution @ 56:

Chris @ 40:

That was dumb.
If you give tax cuts to businesses they use that money to grow and expand there business which leads to more jobs which leads to more consumer spending which helps the economy.
There was an article on Fox Sports that Shaq O'Neill paid 15.4 million dollars in taxes last year, that more than anyone on this site pays combine there whole life. So why doesn't he get a tax break since he's the one thats pay the most taxes? Rich people pay taxes, poor people don't ! Moreover, if you extend unemployment benefits it takes away the incentive for people to get a job, seen it happen a few times!!

As much as i like Shaq what he makes for playing a game is obscene. Poor people don't pay taxes? Do you walk with that brain?

He can't walk and chew gum at the same time What are you trying to give him credit for?

The Navy continues murdering whales.

xoites defends Constitution @ 56:

Chris @ 40:

That was dumb.
If you give tax cuts to businesses they use that money to grow and expand there business which leads to more jobs which leads to more consumer spending which helps the economy.
There was an article on Fox Sports that Shaq O'Neill paid 15.4 million dollars in taxes last year, that more than anyone on this site pays combine there whole life. So why doesn't he get a tax break since he's the one thats pay the most taxes? Rich people pay taxes, poor people don't ! Moreover, if you extend unemployment benefits it takes away the incentive for people to get a job, seen it happen a few times!!

As much as i like Shaq what he makes for playing a game is obscene. Poor people don't pay taxes? Do you walk with that brain?

A Family of four that makes, say $40,000, get most of there tax money back at the end of the year not to mention, what $1500 per kid??
Lets say they get free lunch at school, food stamps, welfare, etc, they are using what ever tax money that put in more than likely MORE than they put in. Poor people don't pay tax, you guys need to start thinking and reading more.....

Ohio has a corrupt prison system to go along with its corrupt voting system. Asian markets still don't trust Bush.

Drew @ 15:

lafin gas @ 11:

Like everything in our gov-ment!
Uncontrollable U.S. Spy Satellite To Hit Earth

Shot down by the Chinese.

US government will not name China for fear of them dumping Treasury securities, collapsing the dollar.

Dollar is collapsed 50% already, since booosh took over, WITHOUT Chinese shot-down satellite ... Once derivatives get on the cutting board (on top of subprime mess), the falling satellite will be a welcome distraction from the outhouse swim we are in up to our necks already.

Gold is close to $1,000. supposed to get to $1,650. Once that done (worthless cash sucked out from the economy), the US govt might declare that possession of precious metals is illegal, all gold (etc) has to be turned into govt deposits (iou's anybody ??) - as a part of martial law 'new order'..

This is not satire anymore - we are living it already

NEW BUSH COINS

budda @ 19:

roooth @ 17:

ROM Spaceknight @ 9:

don't be naive senator obama -and always maintain a sober and physically fit team.

No, you're not the only one this has occured to.

I've thought about it a great deal. I remember my father telling stories about how much hope he felt in JFK only to have that dashed. Then when Bobby came up he was filled with joy. Here was a man that could bring real change only to have him shot down - in California - at a hotel. We are now going into California. Obama will be in the middle of two Kennedy's on stage (caroline and ted). He will be at a debate their and presumably staying at a hotel.

Yea, wow - let's hope he makes it through. When you challenge the establishment things end badly.

Sorry to rain on your parade:
how is Obama challenging the establishment being OWNED by it already ? He is Shillary in making, w/diff PMS.

Who Owns Your Candidate? Clinton, Obama & Edwards

Excellent graphs are self explanatory. If you think all this money is contributed by the corpos just because, w/out anything expected back, have your brain MRI done right away.. You might be in for a surprise !

Contibutions from Selected Industries

1.Commercial Banks
Clinton $ 9335,658
Obama $ 865,856
Edwards $ 153,650

the top R:
Mittens $ 600,091

2.Oil & Gas
Clinton $ 220,550
Obama $ 106,112
Edwards $ 27,850

the top R:
Giuliani $ 545,058

3. Pharmaceuticals/Health Products
Clinton $ 269,436
Obama $ 261,784
Edwards $ 15,000

the top R:
Mittens $ 260,535

4. Insurance
Clinton $ 535,938
Obama $ 390,513
Edwards $ 129,600

the top R:
Dodd $ 713,012
Mittens $ 629,16
Giuliani $ 530,615

5. Hedge Funds
Clinton $ 980,700
Obama $ 976,574
Edwards $ 252,550

the top R:
Giuliani $ 1,157,900

and, keep checking the RollCall

White House Endorsement Watch

K Street Endorsements - lobbyists
Clinton 63 lobbyists, incl Carlyle Group of Booosh crime family
Obama 18
Edwards 0 ==> ZERO !!

Top Reps of the Funerary Association
Mittens 25
McInsane 20
Captain 911 17
Frauderick of Hillywood 12 has been removed, after his speech to nowhere

and, John EDWARDS is the ONLY one with comprehensive PLAN for ONE America
you can download it from http://www.johnedwards.com

EDWARDS 2008 !

Ever hear of payroll taxes? Sales taxes? State taxes? Property taxes?

OliverDreams @ 51:

Ron @ 50:

Liberal AND Proud @ 48:

Liberal AND Proud @ 47:

I'm starting to think that additives are being put in food and drink to lower IQs. Probably in soft drinks, which are consumed mostly by the middle class, poor people and the ignoramuses that our collegiate level institutions seem to cookie pressing in droves.

Exactly, that's why I try to avoid those types of diets.

Fluoride in the water maybe? Something has to be up.
What else can explain why Edwards won't be nominated?
Stupid sheep.

Gotta VOTE for EDWARDS, to start !!

How else can he be visible ?!

THE SURGE IS WORKING!

The Iraqi government just switched into another gear and passed a law giving pension rights to tens of thousands of Iraqis who were left out in earlier arrangements.

This straight from the mouth of general Petraeus on Late Edition [video at my site]

Our troops are getting killed so they can pass a pensions law? Are they nuts? And this after a year of surge, costing us more dead and more $billions?

IMPEACH ALL THE SCUM!

#46

If the current percentage is let's say 60 - 40% and new votes come in at the same rate 60 - 40% the percentage remains the same. The more votes that have already been cast the more difference in new votes is needed to affect a change of the total percentage

Goerge and Laura ordering chineese.
W: Yeah we'll have the sweet and sour chicken, 2 egg rolls, the egg foo young and
$750B.

CappuccettoRosso @ 66:

Drew @ 15:

lafin gas @ 11:

Like everything in our gov-ment!
Uncontrollable U.S. Spy Satellite To Hit Earth

Shot down by the Chinese.

US government will not name China for fear of them dumping Treasury securities, collapsing the dollar.

Dollar is collapsed 50% already, since booosh took over, WITHOUT Chinese shot-down satellite ... Once derivatives get on the cutting board (on top of subprime mess), the falling satellite will be a welcome distraction from the outhouse swim we are in up to our necks already.

Gold is close to $1,000. supposed to get to $1,650. Once that done (worthless cash sucked out from the economy), the US govt might declare that possession of precious metals is illegal, all gold (etc) has to be turned into govt deposits (iou's anybody ??) - as a part of martial law 'new order'..

This is not satire anymore - we are living it already

NEW BUSH COINS

I have some gold and I am more than prepared to disobey that illegal law if needs be. I am losing confidence in the Fed and this Bush Administration's economic policies at a very fast rate.

Daily Reading pt 1...

Sibel Edmonds Update: "The UK's Sunday Times has another article today, Tip-off thwarted nuclear spy ring probe, in their series about the penetration of US agencies by a criminal network of Turkish, Israeli and US government officials stealing nuclear secrets and selling them on the black market to the highest bidder.
- http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/uk-times-brewster-jenni...
UK Times: Brewster Jennings outed by 'treasonous' US govt official in 2001, not 2003

SC Dems see record turnout - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080127/ap_on_el_pr/south_carolina_turnout
The South Carolina Democratic Party broke its own turnout record in Saturday's presidential primary and eclipsed the number of ballots cast by residents in the Republican primary the week before.
With 98 percent of precincts reporting, more than 520,000 votes had been tabulated in Barack Obama's commanding victory. The returns easily eclipsed the 280,000 people who voted in the Democratic primary in 2004.
Democratic officials characterized the record-breaking vote as a sign that the party is resurgent in South Carolina.

Kennedy Family for Obama: A President Like My Father - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/opinion/27kennedy.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Three federal employees are being investigated for unlawful political activities after they allegedly sent an e-mail falsely accusing Barack Obama of being a "radical Muslim," the Globe has learned.
- http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/01/26/3_us_workers_face_...
Doing so would be a violation of the Hatch Act, a 1939 law designed to help protect career government employees and the government workforce from the influence of partisan politics. The act bans civil servants from taking "any active part" in political campaigns while on the job.

The State of the Union? Outrage! - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/state-of-the-outrage_b_83455....

For Bill Clinton, the Ties to JFK's Camelot Have Been Severed - http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/038
That's what backing disastrous NAFTA & 1996 Telecom Act will do...

Las Vegas to Build World's First 30 Story Vertical Farm - http://www.nextenergynews.com/news1/next-energy-news-las-vegas-vertical-...
The $200 million dollar project is designed to be a functional and profitable working farm growing enough food to feed 72,000 people for a year and provide another tourist attraction to the city that does everything in a larger than life way.
Could be open by middle of 2010, great concept & makes too much sense environmentally

Chavez Urges Withdrawals From U.S. Banks - http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?cat=business&id=20080126/479c...
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez urged his Latin American allies on Saturday to begin withdrawing billions of dollars in international reserves from U.S. banks, warning of a looming U.S. economic crisis.

Great Lakes' Lower Water Levels Propel a Cascade of Hardships - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/01/26/AR200801...
"Since the late 1970s, we've seen a slight decline in precipitation and a steeper increase in evaporation," said Cynthia E. Sellinger, a hydrologist with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. "We've been in a different climactic regime for the last decade with higher air temperatures, which means more evaporation."
Environment Illinois advocate Max Muller: "That means passing the Great Lakes Compact and stopping global warming."

budda @ 27:

hareli @ 26:

budda @ 16:

hareli @ 14:
Hillary is a tool of Israel. I know some Israeli supporters were mad at Obama last year for not being forceful enough in his support - that makes me like him even more. I wish Israel would just go away and in that Washington, DC wouldn't be Israeli occupied territory anymore. Israel is using South African apartied and it's about time we had an American government that told Israel what to do with their lobby money.

budda, I was born in Israel and I feel the same way you do. Right-wing pro-war Israelis are still pissed at Obama. They are also the ones that support the war crime of Israeli apartheid. I just luuuuv the progressive left here. Screech, yell, scream about Bush, then lick his ass and more when it comes to the barbarism that Israel visits upon Palestinians.

thank you for bringing your perspective, as a citizen by birth, i wish more people could see the vile israeli government for what they are

I wish budda and others could see the vile Palestinian terrorists who blow up busloads of Israeli citizens for what they are.
I wish budda and others could see the vile anti Israeli and anti-Semitic Arab schools for what they are.
I wish budda and others could see the vile Egyptian police who will not allow Palestinians into their country for what they are.

How to Brainwash a Nation - A short 7 min. history lesson...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3081752751625862941&hl=en

budda @ 19:

roooth @ 17:

ROM Spaceknight @ 9:

don't be naive senator obama -and always maintain a sober and physically fit team.

No, you're not the only one this has occured to.

I've thought about it a great deal. I remember my father telling stories about how much hope he felt in JFK only to have that dashed. Then when Bobby came up he was filled with joy. Here was a man that could bring real change only to have him shot down - in California - at a hotel. We are now going into California. Obama will be in the middle of two Kennedy's on stage (caroline and ted). He will be at a debate their and presumably staying at a hotel.

Yea, wow - let's hope he makes it through. When you challenge the establishment things end badly.

after watching "bobby" last night, i went to wikipedia to see what the entry was like for rfk's assassination. if you've seen the movie, you know it doesn't delve into the conspiratorial aspects at all, but, boy, was i a bit surprised to see how much evidence of a broader conspiracy has come out in the last 9 months. i recommend anyone interested in this sort of stuff check out the wiki link i posted above.

and, no, i'm not intending to open up a flame war, although it's always seemed a bit strange to me that a site calling itself "crooks and liars" would be occasionally squeamish about allowing discussion of conspiracy theory, since 1) a conspiracy is defined as two or more people scheming to hatch a plot and 2) anyone trying to solve a crime, be it an f.b.i. agent or your local private detective literally HAS to be a conspiracy theorist to solve a crime.

FISA cloture vote is 4:30 today. Clinton and Obama both say that they'll be there.

And when the politicians' corporate owners, who underwrite campaigns, start whining, politicians develop "stimulus" schemes using the fear of layoffs, foreclosures and wage cuts to justify tax cuts for those doing the laying off, foreclosing and wage cutting.

Only to those invested in America's shining new era of Corporatism does that make any flipping sense.

Pertinent question:
Do we really need to give a bailout to companies that just awarded $39 billion in bonuses?

Juxtaposed with Saint McCain saying:
We do not need to expand unemployment benefits and food stamps to help workers.

Priceless

And take note of the fact that this is not just a case of Republicans hating poor people and that in fact it's been one of the more shining examples of "bipartisanship" that we've seen so far. Not only do the Republicans hate you, apparently the Democrats don't like your ass much either.

Orangutan. @ 92:

The Family came out in support of Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton's divisive politics are losing their luster. Vote Change. Hillary Clinton is the establishment candidate.

amen, orangutan. after obama's s.c. victory speech, i browsed some rightwing sites, like freerepublic, and i can tell you, they're far more concerned about facing obama than clinton. heck, to my amazement, some freepers even begrudgingly acknowledge they respect obama and find him inspiring, even if they don't agree with him on policy.

no more bushes, no more clintons, no more divisive damn dynasties. this is america, we can do a LOT better.

Tom @ 91:

And when the politicians' corporate owners, who underwrite campaigns, start whining, politicians develop "stimulus" schemes using the fear of layoffs, foreclosures and wage cuts to justify tax cuts for those doing the laying off, foreclosing and wage cutting.

<Only to those invested in America's shining new era of Corporatism does that make any flipping sense.

Pertinent question:
Do we really need to give a bailout to companies that just awarded $39 billion in bonuses?

Juxtaposed with Saint McCain saying:
We do not need to expand unemployment benefits and food stamps to help workers.
Priceless

And take note of the fact that this is not just a case of Republicans hating poor people and that in fact it's been one of the more shining examples of "bipartisanship" that we've seen so far. Not only do the Republicans hate you, apparently the Democrats don't like your ass much either.

So, who is to represent WE, the people ? See the facts/ numbers below, and it should be very clear Edwards is the only chance we've got. He's been blacked out by 'forces to be' precisely b/c he is NOT in bed with them. And, he is the ONLY one who can win the General Election !! with ANY repig.

It's not over until everyone votes.
Don't let the pundits take away your voice in 2008.
EDWARDS 2008 !

CappuccettoRosso @ 68:

how is Obama challenging the establishment being OWNED by it already ? He is Shillary in making, w/diff PMS.

Who Owns Your Candidate? Clinton, Obama & Edwards

Excellent graphs are self explanatory. If you think all this money is contributed by the corpos just because, w/out anything expected back, have your brain MRI done right away.. You might be in for a surprise !

Contibutions from Selected Industries

1.Commercial Banks
Clinton $ 9335,658
Obama $ 865,856
Edwards $ 153,650

the top R:
Mittens $ 600,091

2.Oil & Gas
Clinton $ 220,550
Obama $ 106,112
Edwards $ 27,850

the top R:
Giuliani $ 545,058

3. Pharmaceuticals/Health Products
Clinton $ 269,436
Obama $ 261,784
Edwards $ 15,000

the top R:
Mittens $ 260,535

4. Insurance
Clinton $ 535,938
Obama $ 390,513
Edwards $ 129,600

the top R:
Dodd $ 713,012
Mittens $ 629,16
Giuliani $ 530,615

5. Hedge Funds
Clinton $ 980,700
Obama $ 976,574
Edwards $ 252,550

the top R:
Giuliani $ 1,157,900

and, keep checking the RollCall

White House Endorsement Watch

K Street Endorsements - lobbyists
Clinton 63 lobbyists, incl Carlyle Group of Booosh crime family
Obama 18
Edwards 0 ==> ZERO !!

Top Reps of the Funerary Association
Mittens 25
McInsane 20
Captain 911 17
Frauderick of Hillywood 12 has been removed, after his speech to nowhere

and, John EDWARDS is the ONLY one with comprehensive PLAN for ONE America
you can download it from http://www.johnedwards.com

EDWARDS 2008 !

ronhohn @ 76:

#46

If the current percentage is let's say 60 - 40% and new votes come in at the same rate 60 - 40% the percentage remains the same. The more votes that have already been cast the more difference in new votes is needed to affect a change of the total percentage

Don't do that. You're ruining someone's cherished Diebold fantasy by introducing the concept of math.