March 15, 2008 11:30 PM
Open Thread
"The Eliot Spitzer Story" goes Bollywood, Act III: the musical finale, dancing with Barbara Boxer at the DNC Superdelegate Floorshow in Denver. Acts One and Two are here. Open Thread Below.
"The Eliot Spitzer Story" goes Bollywood, Act III: the musical finale, dancing with Barbara Boxer at the DNC Superdelegate Floorshow in Denver. Acts One and Two are here. Open Thread Below.

Hi open thread!
Turn on CNBC if you like economic drama.
BBC - Tent Cities growing around Los Angeles.
Don't y'all foreclose on my tent!
The Fed announced emergency measures tonight to address the meltdown of the securities markets, and to shore up the Primary Dealers.
JPMorgan to buy Bear for $2 a share
Bear Sterns bought out by JP morgan for $2 dollars per share! They were over 80 last week. Their CEO was on CNBC saying the company was fine and there were no problems. Rumors of Lehman Bros tanking next.
Everyone might want to put on their body armour for tomorrows market opening. Things are going south in a big hurry in asia at the moment
Why is George Bush so God Damn Happy??? Maureen Dowd - New York Times.
That's a heavy link on the tent cities. I did mortgage inspections last year for delinquent properties for dozens of banks. You would not believe how many vacant houses there are out there. One recent estimate is over 18 million homes vacant, and that stat was 4 months old.
SHIT!! Clemson lost to NC. I hate the fuckin' Tar Heels. (I know , I know, that's hardly important - but we ALL need diversions to keep us sane,)
Forget HBO Special, George Bush is Being Compared to Another Addams
curtilingus @ 9:
Here in SE TX, the housing fiasco isn't quite as bad as the rest of the country. Why? Because Exxon/Mobil decided against building refineries overseas (damn turrrsts) and build the country's largest one here. Hence, lots of jobs to be had, and lots of cheap mortgages to be had.
And, of course, lots of pollution and increases in cancer rate (already one of the highest in the country.)
Come to better understand the Federal Reserve... America: Freedom to Fascism (full length documentary.)
And interview with Aaron Russo - the Film's Director. (37min)
Mike the Canuck @ 7:
This could get real nasty. Were going to be lucky if there's not a markets panic this week.
L.A. Confidential @ 5:
I saw that one as well as the article where the Fed has once again lowered the discount rate. Then, we have gold at well over $1023 an ounce along with oil and all other commodities rising at even faster clips. The U.S. dollar is taking a hard beating as I type and we are looking at a possible stock market opening of -236 on the DOW. Tomorrow morning could be very ugly indeed. The only way that the Fed can deal with this is by massively reinflating which will make the problems much, much worse. Some people say that the economy will correct. Maybe. But I think its to far gone now. Or as Julius Caesar once said just before he crossed the Rubicon: Alea Icata Est. The die has been cast.
Matt Hussein in Texas @ 10:
I knew when Clemson knocked off Duke it was over.
GO HEELS!!
Joe O. @ 16:
It's out of control.
L.A. Confidential @ 18:
Bush inherited this mess from Clinton 7 1/2 years ago. It's Bill Clinton's fault!
It seems like there a lot of us ordinary people have been predicting this for months and years, but the experts are finally figuring it out. Why the f**k aren't they paying us for the advice.
Pelosi finally does something useful.
Mai Lai turns 40, while American deaths went up to 4,000. The Bear Stearns buy-out is a bitch for Asian stock markets. Will athletes boycott
the Olympics, because of China?
Hey I know that movie. Its Yaarana and thats a very popular song, back from the 80s.
what?
Ruthless People @ 19:
Whatever looks we're going to be a nation of burger flippers for the Chinese and servants to the Rich.
Over thirty thousand people wake up during surgery.
Iraqis are still living in ghetto conditions.
One of the charges against Spitzer has been traditionally racist.
Mike the Canuck @ 7:
The Fed took the extrordinary action of reducing the basis point another .25---on a Sunday. You could be right about the stock market tomorrow. I'll stock up on Guinness myself.
Well, if we didn't have trillions of dollars going down the Iraq sink hole we could afford to give shore up the markets and give relief to the American people. But hey, Dick Cheney's Halliburton stock has increased over 3000% since 2001 so at least somebody's making out like a bandit (excuse the pun).
L.A. Confidential @ 23:
Well if it gets too much to bear we can opt for the easy way out by sucking on one of Chinese's poisonous toys.
Tequila @ 24:
Let me tell you. If I woke up during surgery they would have to call in an extra nurse to clean my shit up off the floor.
Ruthless People @ 27:
A slow death, not the best way to go. Torture me instead. Whoops, shouldn't have said that.
Ruthless People @ 26:
The Feds are sweating bullets till April 15 in the meantime.
UFOs Over London?
Another conspiracy
"Bear Stearns is not the only big financial house in trouble," Peter Morici, a professor at the University of Maryland, wrote in an e-mail analysis. "The potential for contagion is real and menacing. The real questions are: Which of the big banks will be next to fail?"
Yip. Like we've been saying. Stay out of the Bushes. Since 2000.
L.A. Confidential @ 30:
I'm sweating bullets till January 20, 2009. I hope we can make it that long.
Ruthless People @ 33:
Me too. I'm not so sure we will.
Got to split.
Going to be a long day tomorrow.
What the DOJ should be ordered to do as soon as Obama takes office, is freeze any assets Bush and Cheney and the rest have, whether it be in their stock portfolio or their stash in savings and loans or whatever.
This video shows the true nature of the economy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnnOOo6tRs8&fmt=18
No matter what the bobble heads say on Fox Business News, there is some REAL pain.
Ron @ 36:
Before Cheney makes his get away to the new Halliburton headquarters in Dubai http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/03/12/business/main2558620.shtml
What low life blood sucker Cheney is. He kills countless people so Halliburton can get no bid goverment contracts then move the headquarters off shore to keep from paying taxes for the war he lied us into leaving us to foot the bill for it.
Don't waste time. Impeach and arrest Cheney now!
Ruthless People @ 38:
...and freeze his assests....NOW.
Ruthless People @ 38:
Not to mention the energy strategy he implemented in 2002 and still doesn't have to release the information about the meetings with the oil industry and Ken Lay.
L.A. Confidential @ 18:
The very message of CANCER.
Thank you for spreading the hysteria.
Orangutan. @ 8:
rubbernuts is just happy that everything the nazis that own us is working out so well for them!
I am so pissed off right now. I was trying to watch John Adams on HBO but every three minutes or less the sound or the picture pixalated. It goes on for another hour and ten minutes, the thing is i would only get to see 20 minutes of it.
MOTHER FUCK!!!!
Paul in LA @ 41:
You shouldn't be hysterical, you should be pissed off.
Paul in LA @ 41:
Here's a fiddle.
In case you anybody is wondering.. thats not what the song means and hence I dont see why this song was chosen ??
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 43:
With all the advertising on the progressive blogs I feel like I've seen the whole mini-series already.
TheEnticer @ 46:
Come on, this is an open thread. Do you know what open thread is?
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 43:
Thats nothing, I just spent 2 hours repairing Windows on my new PC!
#21 --- "My Lai turns 40"
WE should never forget that traitor Colin Powell was responsible for a multitude of crimes, some treasonous:
(1) Was responsible for the attempted coverup of My Lai in which 347 civilians of all ages were massacred barbarically, others tortured and raped;
(2) Still defends his pro-Nicaraguan Contra stance to this day;
(3) Pushed Daddy Bush to arrest Noriega in which many civilians were killed;
(4)Armed Iraq with missiles before Gulf War;
(5) Allowed Republican Guard to escape Gulf to go back to Iraq and these then murdered hundreds of the civilians which the US had encouraged to revolt;
(6)Turned his back on vets with Gulf War Syndrome (so much for support for the troops); Hypocritically, homophobic bigots Powell (with Schwartzkopf) had approved of the DADT policy because they was so concerned about "morale" of the troops, but not the vets of Gulf War Syndrome!
(7) Was responsible for selling the WMD lie to the UN which allowed the Iraq invasion based on his lies to go ahead, as result of which over one million Iraqis have been murdered, 4000 Americans killed so far, many thoiusands of dismembermberments and crippling, deaths in hospitals later not counted as deaths, thousands have traumatic brain syndrome and hbundreds have committed suicide, none of which atre listed among the dead.
Here is this unbelievable article:
http://www.disinfo.com/archive/pages/dossier/id803/pg1/
What a disgrace and traitor he is. He has made millions and millions of dollars in speaking engagements, no doubt eliminating his war crimes. He would have made Hitler proud.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 43:
More proof that they control everything we see and hear.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 43:
Hey xiotes, some get together last night, huh.
Orangutan. @ 2:
Wow! They are white. Their home are extravagant.
Ron @ 48:
Dude, I know what an 'Open Thread' is, I am trying to understand why this song was chosen of all songs they could have stuck their message on. Usually there is a witty connection or something..
Joe O. @ 16:
Well said.
What does it mean when the stock market opens at -236? What does the number mean? What should the number be.
What is a DOW?
Thanks, I want to know how bad I should feel.
Ron @ 51:
Shit!
Worse than that, i just spent 10 minutes trying to get back on C&L and had to download Firefox to get back on.
John Adams hits HBO and nothing but problems. In the first hour i must have seen 40 minutes of it. Some of the best arguments about why we started this nation were eradicated.
TheEnticer @ 54:
Quite often, they start off with something that is off the wall completely. It just means yu can talk about what ever you think is appropriate or stupid as long as you don't get out of line.
Money As Debt.
xoites Hussien defends Constitution @ 56:
I have had problems all weekend, tonight, no problems, no firefox. I don't get it either. I do think that the feds have something to do with it, though.
Ron @ 58:
It is a joke. You are supposed to laugh at joke, didn't your mother tell you?
That was not directed at you, Ron. Just following the thread. :)
xoites Hussien defends Constitution @ 62:
I know.
[Deleted. You're done here-Sitemonitor]
old hack @ 64:
That you are not sure what you are talking about, i am certain.
Ron @ 40:
Gawd this pisses me off!
BTW -- I haven't heard anything about the US protesting the 5 year mark of the Iraq invasion. The Brits had over 40K in attendance (the officials claims only 10K.)
old hack @ 64:
One thing I'm sure of is, that you're an old hack.
There is supposed to be another gathering in Seattle next weekend.
Is this the correct spelling of Bushville? Or would Cheneytown be better? Wherever that depressing tent city might be located and I've no doubt they'll be many more, if there is a Freewayblogger in the vicinity I hope someone gets on producing the requisite sign.Something nice for the internets.
old hack @ 64:
What a pleasant change from blaming Clinton or Hillary. Feel free to piss on our hosts rug for something he has absolutely no control over. Very nice.
Shaboom.
The Secretary of State of Ohio is investigating evidence of illegal balloting by E,S&S last November.
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=5811#more-5811
They have prima facie evidence that the software was changed and then installed after the certification, which is a felony.
Peter G @ 70:
Blood sugar very low. Should have been Clinton or Obama.
Peter G @ 70:
You ever notice how all those Republican trolls use 'old' in their handle?
Hi All
;-}
Giving him a momentary benefit of doubt as I like to do when encountering the potentially mentally handicapped, I clicked the link. It's about what you would expect.No further benefit of doubt need be expended. He's got a catchy, self performed tune though, something called: "Somebody Shoot me in the Head" Not worth the bullet I'm afraid.
Greetings all. It's peaceful now that the children have been put to bed. A confused Grandpa seems to wandering around though.
Voting for Clinton to Boost GOP
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/03/17/many_voting_for_cl...
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My prostate hurts. :(
...also, what's up with Henry Paulson? is he dead or what?
John McCain's enlarged prostate @ 78:
Brain dead.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bOOL3BYaIEQ
Damn, FOX will now demand we cancel MLK day. Again.
I said one thing about the government screwing with C&L and it took me a half hour to get back on. I might be off again for awhile.
Ron @ 81:
Bitchin bout big brother gets me off too.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 82:
It really pisses me off when they F**k with my internet or my intercourse.
Ron @ 83:
See ya in half an hour, Ron.
Steal this response. Please!!!! -
>> Al Franken is a typical Dem/lib
>
> No, he's funnier than most of us.
Stan Hussein Rosenthal @ 85:
OK, but yer gonna have to take my wife, then.
matt yglesias lists a nice bunch of economic blogs to watch as the economy goes down the drain.
Orangutan. @ 2:
This is an infuriating video.
When I see stuff like this, it reminds me of the horrors we used to hear about the Soviet Union years ago: People waiting in line for hours to get groceries, living like paupers, etc.
The United States has been pissed down the toilet by Bush and Cheeeeney, and there are no signs that they will EVER pay for the crimes against this country and its citizens.
Corporate banks and their CEOs have obscenely looted our pool of taxdollars, and they're all on welfare now, at our expense. CEOs have bailed with golden parachutes, taking millions and millions of dollars for destroying their companies.
This is what filthy republicans are all about. There isn't a republican in Congress that I'd trust with a nickel of my money.
I guess we'll see what happens tomorrow when the markets open. If nothing much happens, I'll know that this government is hard at work, manipulating reality.
You simply cannot spend 3 trillion dollars on a fake war, destroy the backbone of our military, outsource EVERYTHING, insource cheap labor, destroy unions, make the dollar worthless...and then tell everybody how great things are under a stinking party of greedy, unethical, immoral thieves and liars.
As I see it, only a rigged election will put another filthy republican in the White House, to finish the job of destroying the United States from within. You want to know who the real terrorists are? One guess!
Orangutan. @ 2:
Reagans trickle down theory in effect. Rich man gets a huge tax cut. Buys a new super large refridgerator. Then a homeless gets a double wide home with the empty box
Necadawg Says @ 89:
Niiice!
Lollimom @ 88:
You are putting in a few words what we all have been saying. Thank you.
Lollimom @ 88:
Excellent Rant!
I totally agree.
xoites Hussien defends Constitution @ 92:
I can't believe on how we are of the same mindset. I love it.
As long as we keep religion out of it, Ron. :)
Recession comming. Buy GOLD. But when you are starving to death the bars will be hard to chew.
xoites Hussein defends Constitution @ 43:
Made in the USA.
Necadawg Says @ 95:
Please tell me where i can get $1009 to buy an ounce of gold and then help me come up with the proper excuse to tell my landlord why i don't have the rent.
"Well, you see, there is this depression coming and i needed some gold..."
xoites Hussien defends Constitution @ 94:
On the earlier post about the ring when you said that it was another prostitute ring, I responded with, " So, you are saying that the ring is the sphincter. I think you had already moved on.
Well we are on the threshold of a dictatorship. Dont buy gold buy body armour and guns.
xoites Hussien defends Constitution @ 97:
Buy a gun and then do what you have to do.
Necadawg Says @ 99:
Don't buy anything, don't buy into anything.
Necadawg Says @ 95:
So buy land.
And a gun.
Necadawg Says @ 100:
I would not buy a weapon or use one under any circumstances.
Well I am going to share my plan to beat the man. When I am very sick and dying I am going to pay for my DEATH EXPENSES with a credit card. TEEHEEHEE
Your advice is really helpfull for people of "means" however it is useless and pointless for people who have no means.
My only conclusion is that your advice is exclusionary.
Unless of course you have some good advice for those who have already lost everything.
Ron @ 98:
Focus xiotes, focus.
Lollimom @ 88:
We can declare shenanigans and/or tune up the guillotine...
tHeGaMeHusseinOfLiFe @ 55:
To answer your questions, basically the DOW is the DOW Jones Industrial Average. It is an index made up of the 30 largest American companies (I.E. GE, Microsoft, General Motors etc.) which also have a large international reach. A large, negative DOW Jones futures number just prior to the market opening could indicate a large sell off of stocks just after the opening or even a crash. In other words it could lead to panic selling. This is what we were witnessing a few months ago when the DOW futures indicated a -700 opening on the night of Martin Luther King Day. It forced the Federal Reserve to step in with an emergency Fed rate cut early that following Tuesday morning just prior to the market opening in order to prevent a possible crash similar to the one we saw in 1987. I singled out the DOW as its the most watched index but obviously other indexes such as the NASDAQ and S&P 500 also show large negative futures numbers. I wouldn't say there really is a "good" number though a positive futures number at the opening of the stock market is usually a good sign.
Well, i am going to continue to look for real answers to address the problems of real people who have ended up getting fucked by the Capitalist system so many of you support until, of course it comes time to get a gun and hold up in a cave.
http://daily.sightline.org/daily_score/archive/2008/03/14/political-junk...
I'm just sayin'...
I don't care if you are on the right or on the left, I think this short article speaks volumes of truth. I think everyone who calls themselves a democrat or a republican may have felt this on at least one occasion.
Ever hear of SOYLENT GREEN or PLAYER PIANO? These times that the poor and ex-working class are going to go through are indefensible. we will lose all earthly possession and only have meaningless exsistence. Voting aint working. Demostrations aint working. Human greed defeats every person at every level. Just hope Obama doesnt become one of them.
Drew @ 110:
I suppose your brain is feeling really good about now.
And i really don't give a good goddamn.
Necadawg Says @ 111:
No, i never heard of Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
Maybe i should read him.
Drew @ 110:
What it really boils down to is COMMON SENSE OR GREED.
So it goes...
GNA!
Drew @ 110:
False equivalence #593: those on the wrong and the left are equidistant from the truth.
Nice first name though...
What it really boils down to is animalism or spirituallity. Neo-cons that win the sperm derby think the poor should be treated as a pestulence.
xoites Hussien defends Constitution @ 61:
Well.. You do realize it is a joke only if you dont understand what they are singing about or havent seen the original movie..
Anyhoo thanks for pointing out flaws in my upbringing..
If it werent for the internets, I would not have known that I am supposed to laugh at jokes!
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 116:
how ya doin?
pestilence
Necadawg Says @ 117:
Come on! They still need slave labor. They don't want to have any of their own to have to work.
Necadawg Says @ 117:
LOL
Ron @ 121:
The Repubs need slave labor, the democrats want a voting block.. hence illegal immigration!!
But getting back to being poor :)
anyone remember Vlad the Impaler ?
TheEnticer @ 119:
how ya doin?
Good, E., thanks for asking. I personally loved the clip, found it very entertaining, regardless of dialog (which is?).
TheEnticer @ 123:
I used to call my penis as Vlad the impaler.
TheEnticer @ 123:
lol, yer sharp tonite, E. What about ol Vladdy?
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 126:
He burnt people for being poor, poverty was a disease that he wanted to cure the earth of... Of course.. as with most european history, this little snippet of information could just be Goth propaganda..
The dialog on the song is very silly :) too silly to translate..
Ron @ 125:
I used to call my penis as Vlad the impaler.
Why? Do you enter through the exit?
I'm sorry to hear you lost it...lol
Just kidding, don't get excited. Glad you quit using that particular moniker, though, given its true meaning...
Happy St. Patricks day everyone.
TheEnticer @ 127:
Being conservative much more fun back in the day...
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 128:
Why? Do you enter through the exit?
I'm sorry to hear you lost it...lol
Just kidding, don't get excited. Glad you quit using that particular moniker, though, given its true meaning...
Hey,I used to be called a lot of names, Hugh Mongess and Hugh Jardon, even Buster Himen, but I didn't hojd it against them unless they wanted me to.
Been watching Winter Soldier testimony and came across a little twat named Jason Mattera, correspondent for HotAir, Michelle Malkin's site. After watching testimony of these shattered young soldiers I see him following around John Kerry asking stupid questions about the original Winter Soldiers.
Makes me want to get busy.
Ron @ 131:
If you had it would have been frottage with peril, if not pencil.
Good night everyone. It's been fun.
Ron @ 133:
nite Ron
McCain the Liar @ 129:
And a happy St. Patty's day to you! This is one of my favorite holidays as I get to celebrate my ancestry. My family still has some really old Irish, Catholic traditions that have been passed down from generation to generation since at least the 1600-1700's that they still use. And yes, some of them do include booze. lol My mom has charted our family, person to person on both sides of our family to at least 1100 AD in Ireland.
Since I have to work, I ordered some handmade Irish chocolates from Dublin, Ireland to celebrate the occasion. they cost me an arm and a leg with the currency conversion (I.E. U.S. dollar to Euro) but its worth it.
Joe O. @ 136:
I'll also will be playing my DVD that features the Celtic Women and having some friends over. These ladies are one of my favorite Irish groups:
Celtic Woman - A New Journey - Reels
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aIxUXjJL4mk&feature=related
Turning in g'night y'all..
Nite E
Ron @ 131:
Hey,I used to be called a lot of names, Hugh Mongess and Hugh Jardon, even Buster Himen, but I didn't hojd it against them unless they wanted me to.
Hey, P2H.
Since Richard Cranium has been in office, we've all been renamed Ben Dover.
How goes it?
Excuse typos. Just waking up, or going to sleep, or waking up to sleep, or...well,..you get my drift.
Thanks, everyone, for the great links on this thread. Lotsa good stuff.
woodguy @ 140:
Hey, P2H.
Since Richard Cranium has been in office, we've all been renamed Ben Dover.
How goes it?
Hi Woodguy!
;-]
At least St. Patrick's Day will be a perfect excuse to get drunk after hearing about the declining dollar.
Does this mean we have late nite wood, guy?
Tequila @ 143:
Lotta green fallin down today goin on...burrrrpp, oh sorry!
Orangutan. @ 2:
60,000 homes in the last month...
Is this figure just in L.A.?
HOLLY MOTHER F#CK!
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Asana Yoga vs Irish Yoga (h/t Drew)
Max-Hussein-1 @ 146:
Gotta love those xmas milfs... didja see yer McAKA?
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 144:
Late night, early morning, ain't we got wood?
I'll be in and out of this thread. Gotta keep up with the ongoing Depression in the Making.
woodguy @ 149:
Pinocchio night awl, weaving in and out...keeping up with the falling down...
It was basically a dry performance by Boxer until Spitzer eased the way.
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