<I>This Week</i>: In Memoriam
By Nicole Belle Sunday Mar 30, 2008 11:50am
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This Week with George Stephanopoulos notes the passing of classic actor Richard Widmark, advertising executive Hal Riney, foreign policy adviser William Hyland as well as 14 service members in Iraq and Afghanistan, bring the total casualty count to 4010, according to icasualties.org. In contrast, according to IBC, there were 388 confirmed deaths of Iraqis last week.








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Another 14 American and 388 Iraqu lives wasted in Bush's War. When will this madness end?
"Iraq", that is.
advertising executive?
who the fuck cares?
(sorry, that is uber-insenstive to the friends and family of... who? ah yes, Hal Riney. My sincere apologies if any of them are reading this.)
my grandfather, who fought in WWII and was one of the best people ever to grace this earth, died several years ago, and i don't recall george stephanoplousoulpslisous giving him a moment of silence. yes, mention the americans who have died in this illegal clusterfuck, but why do we have to hear about those who are richer and more powerful? are we supposed to care b/c they are somehow better than us? honoring the rich, famous, and powerful is so 1990.
...maybe i am just being a dick about this. RIP Hal, RIP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHHJsXH3BiU
woodguy @ 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eir3-omjMVQ
how's that surge working out now ??
bushisaliar @ 6:
I'm getting zipper marks.
ysbaddaden @ 7:
surge, not bulge
I was moved and saddened by the news of the death of Dith Pran. He was the
Cambodian journalist who risked his life many times over to tell the story of the
horror to his country.
His deeds are inspiring. This past year I was shocked at the killing of Benazar Bhutto as
well. Whatever may be said about her spotty past, one cannot deny that it took
real and huge courage for her to return to Pakistan and try to serve her country.
That courage goes very far, in me, to make up for her faults.
Dith Pran's story was very inspiring. I was saddened as well to see that his
country, Dr. Ngor was murdered on the streets of LA by a teenage gang gunman.
I think that is troubling.
Courage is a rare and beautiful thing.
Drop this segment.
I just love how the segment included two advertisements for Ronald Reagan's foreign policy.
Iran-Contra gets a C for effort!
They didn't mention this guy?
Herb Peterson
ysbaddaden @ 7:
Hahahah! Yousobad ;-}
Richard Widmark was an interesting guy. The NYT article on his death is worth a read.
L.A. Confidential @ 10:
No. This segment is important to people. How would you feel if we ran this segment every week and the day we decide to stop doing it is the day you get notice that your son has died in Iraq?
It is incumbent upon ALL of us to know how many deaths are occurring, even if they're played down by the White House.
And Samson, Hal Riney (whose ad shop is in my hometown of San Francisco) was an advertising genius and really at the forefront of advertising for years and years. For better or worse, his influence is pretty far flung in American culture. No disrespect is intended towards your grandfather. My grandmother was the first woman in her family to go to college and she had a career as an urban planner at a time when most women didn't work. She was my first feminist influence and an amazing woman. She died a couple of months ago and George S. didn't mention her either.
Nicole Belle @ 15:
nicole, in no way did i intend my post to be a slight on this thread, it was more a comment on the tendency of the msm to single out certain people to honor.
i mentioned my grandfather just to make the point, however ingracefully, that there are oodles of "ordinary" people that die every second of everyday and their deaths seem to be something less of a loss than the deaths of actors, CEOs, execs, sports stars, etc. that are mentioned at the conclusion of certain broadcasts.
richard widmark was a good actor! i never saw a movie he made that wasnt good! the old breeds dieing out! to bad ! halls of montazuma was a gret flick!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It keeps a bit of a realistic view of this heinous occupation we have sponsored. A shame that 14 more died, but I'd really like to spend the time reading about their lives...all 14, each and every week. How many brothers and sisters did they leave behind. How many children are fatherless because of this criminal act? Do their parents, who have had part of their hearts torn from their chest still want to send someone else's child there to die for this nightmare?
They are only numbers to us. Just 4010....what? Each one left a life behind with families and friends that will never see them again and have this emptiness in their life as a result of this criminal administration of ours.
Shame on us.
...oh yeah, and "the surge is working". It's still killing.
I AM SADDENED THAT ANYONE THINKS THAT THE WORLDS GREATEST SUFFERER DID NOT MOURN EVERY AMERICAN LIFE LOST...
that high and outside pitch at the opening of the baseball season... that was for all the soldiers lost in Iraq
that hug of the big bunny.... that was for them too
all those fancy dances last week for JOHN "The Republican" MCCAIN... again, for the fallen soldiers
THE GREAT UNITER CARES... AND HIS HEART IS BREAKING BIG TIME....
of course his woman allows for this by not cluttering her beautiful mind with such details
----- i wonder what John "THE REPUBLICAN" McCain's wife is cluttering her mind with
Although Stephanopoulos may note the weekly deaths of U.S. soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan together, the way you wrote this post, you unfortunately conflated the U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, but then compounded that error by listing the total (4010) only for Iraq. At least 418 U.S. soldiers have been killed in Afghanistan on top of the 4010 killed thus far in Iraq. It's also important not to conflate the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, as the Bush administration likes to do. One was waged in direct response to the 9/11 attacks by Al Qaeda, who were being hosted and supported in Afghanistan by the Taliban, and was supported by the rest of the world as a result. The other was a phony war of choice and a distraction from the real war on Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, which, amazingly, has sucked 80% of the resources and troops (and, sadly, the casualties) from that real war, and which has caused us to be losing the real war as a result.
tyree @ 17:
Hey Tyree, you might enjoy this article about Widmark. It sounds like he was a really cool guy.
Rusty Shackleford @ 22:
In Joseph Mankiewicz's No Way Out (1950) he gave a typical, menacing account of a bigoted petty criminal so moved by the death of his brother in hospital that he tries to blame the black doctor (Sidney Poitier in his first film) and in so doing nearly provokes a race riot. Widmark, impeccably liberal on the subject of race in his private life, apologised to Poitier at the end of every filming session.
Such a great human being, R.I.P.
Other important names:
Abby Mann, film director, famous political film Judgement at Nuremburg. Ironically, Richard Widmark was one of the leading characters in this film!
Dith Pran, Killing Fields survivor and photojournalist for NYT.
Neil Aspinall, close friend of the Beatles. Head of Apple, Inc.
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