March 31, 2008 11:30 PM
Open Thread
We love Shakespeare's Sister because she writes posts like this:
Sometimes I just close my eyes and pretend that the media still plays a useful role in the republic, the Democrats are a genuine and effective opposite party, our government isn't being sold piecemeal to corporations, our elections are fair, we've got universal healthcare, and Al Gore is really our president.
And sometimes I just close my eyes and pretend I'm making out with Al Gore.
But mostly the president thing.
Open Thread below....
Well he's not actually my type as far as sexual fantasy goes but the President dream was nice.
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Bill Clinton also has a dream -- ‘Affirmative Action’ for Campaign: ‘Amend It, Don’t End It’
Damn you, Peter G. - you're in my box!
Frist @ 4:
It is the sort of playground I prefer.
Mmm, not much of a sex symbol as far as I'm concerned, but would have made a damned good president. *sigh*
Half our children are left behind. Oil dealers claim they need to price-gouge Americans to stay in business. Bush is willing to destroy the environment to appease anti-immigrant Republicans. Global warming might have killed the mammoth.
I hate to be a downer about this, but no matter how many keynote presentations he goes around giving, Al Gore can not erase the fact that:
a) He is a founding member of the DLC.
b) During his tenure as a VP, the US of A was the only major industrialized Western Power which did not ratify the Kyoto Protocol.
c) He ran a weak ass campaign against a certified retard like Bush, with an asshole like Lieberman in his ticket.
I did not care much for him in 2000, and I don't care much for him now... sorry.
Lord of the flys!
I really don't want to have sex with Al Gore. Or Tipper.
al's a good guy.
but he wouldn't stand and fight when it mattered most.
remember "fahrenheit 9/11", where he's banging the gavel, not letting any of those representatives object to the count?
like i said, al's a good guy (and a terrific environmentalist) but a political fighter he ain't.
at least he wasn't when america really needed him to be.
Tyler: You forgot to add that his wife started the "Let's appeal to conservatives by rallying against entertainment with 'questionable content'" movement continued by Lieberman and Hillary.
The primary reason we have NAFTA - and a destroyed industrial base - is the salesmanship of Al Gore.
xoites hussein depends the constitution @ 7:
I missed that night but I read the whole thread and frankly laughed parts of my anatomy off. As long as we're a little more oblique and give an occasional blast of Febreze (political commentary scent) to clear the air of eau de locker room I'm sure we'll escape exile. P2B took his sitemonitor spanking with his usual good humor. Of course this only takes place on the late night open thread so I'm sure the SM will cut us a little slack.
hey everybody...
dems to gore: S.O.S.!!
we're too scared to get behind obama, draw a line in the sand re: iraq, and challenge mr. magoo!
help, southern white wiseman, help, help, help!!
Too late now but Gore should have insisted on a complete revote for the state of Florida and maybe, just maybe, we would not have gotten the last 8 years of whatever history is going to name this horrible Bush tenure. The media will back McCain no matter what since he represents their corporate interests and the people be damned. And if the dems were truly serious, they would have called for impeachment right after the 2006 election instead of playing nice with the Bushies. The whole group needs to go particularly Pelosi, Reid, Schumer (who along with Feinstein shoved Mukasey down our throats) and all those Repugs who lined up like true soldiers and gave Bush whatever he demanded. This congress has let the entire nation down for political purposes and considering what we are facing this is a wholesale crime. And as much as I liked Gore, he let us down too.
Tyler Durden @ 11:
d) personal strip mine if the stories are true
good points, theres good and bad about Al, certain areas he failed to stand up in, no amount of eco worrying will erase those.
Ron @ 19:
Aaaawwwww!!!
Thanks for lettin me go this long SM :)
Check the date, people! Hehehe
xoites hussein depends the constitution
proud2brumble@gmail.com
Ron
proud2btumble@gmail.com
Peter G
proud2bgrumble@gmail.com
StirFry
proud2bfumble@gmail.com
;-}
I blame myself... I certainly have been juvenile and crass. Sometimes it seems the only way to deal... Which is a weak excuse... I think I've been boycotted by the daytime crowd but I really have tried to step up my opinions to at least relevant topics even if I'm not the most informed or educated.
I don't think exclusion is appropriate, maybe a suspension?
The future of the U.S looks gloomy with Hillary and Obama. I have stopped watching news. I suppose Al Gore and Edwards would create a sensation during 2008 election.
NewandImprovedLemming @ 29:
Goooo ooonnn? Don't leave me in suspense, my
Judasfriend....lol;-}
[you're pushing your luck Proud....please stop using other peoples names.Last warning.Site Monitor]
at least hillary is doing what gore wouldn't, that is, fight to the end.
xoites hussein depends the constitution @ 21:
I think that will be for the sitemonitors to determine. It would be regrettable if any poster of however long standing could force other posters off site when the offending poster, in this case P2B, suitably modifies their behavior. I would miss his wicked sense of humor and depth of cultural knowledge. There's been many a light hearted thread that's been criticized by concern trolls for not providing sufficient outrage. I, for one, cannot live on a perpetual diet of outrage. If we need to alter the sometimes outrageous tone in deference to popular sensibilities then we do so. If that is not sufficient then I too would leave.
Awwwwwwwww............ and I had a great lockerroom scene worked out...
Hook, line and effing sinker.....
bullfrog @ 23:
theres no free rides for Al, Barrack has done the long road of campaigning, caucusing and winning the votes, peoples hearts, delegates.
If the DLC parachuted Al into the conference and thence the Presidential candidate slot there would be hell to pay, blood and tears would flow.
VP choice is another ballgame, but thats for Obama and his team to decide with outside pressure of course.
Hey, who's wearing my mask? Who's Hillary?
Peter G @ 18:
Knew I could count on you, Peter the Great :)
;-}
tr: She's just not fighting for us.
Anyway, more people join the pro-Tibet bandwagon, including Pelosi. The Pentagon acknowledges
a torture policy.
You've got to be kidding me! Gore is another DNC-Pelosi sellout. You know, the kind Teddy warned us about--you remember, we don't need two Republican parties. Don't be fooled by his pseudo-Populist global warming schtick. The same media that sold you Iraq War #'s 1 &2 is going to be bought to be used to sell you Global Baloney Warming starring Al Gore. Don't fall for it. Gore is a LOSER. He gave us the past seven years+ of the Bush Kleptocracy and now in true fascist fashion, he presents himself as the problem solver of the problem he mostly created.
MiffedLemming @ 33:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
;-}
I'm blushing now. Although it's officially April 2 in my time zone. P2B you amiable bastard!
So who is exactly here anyway?
And like they'd give pieces a silver fer yer ass, p2b!
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 28:
Is this an Aprils Fools thing or a Buzztone thing !?
i know tequila, but she is fighting.
I had a dream Al Gore was not taking money from the Chinese government, enacted NAFTA and was over-hyping global warming.......
Why the goodbyes from 2B? Are we going to get Rick Rolled on this April 1st?
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 30:
Sorry SM!!! stopped already at #28 as soon as I backtracked and say your warning. Just once a year, I promise!! ;-}
(P.S. Also, this is the perfect excuse to ban me if it'd make it better for ya'll.)
MiffedLemming @ 33:
If that rodent next to you threw himself off a cliff, would—nevermind!
Hey everyone I just got here. Someone's an imposter. Thank you site monitor.
[That was P2b sharing some April fools shenanigans.You're welcome. Site Monitor]
McCain on Letterman hes talking about Republican Approval rating 19% "blood relatives and staffers" LMAO
StirFry @ 35:
Sorry, wokman. Just borrowed it for a little 4/1 fun...You smell nice, btw.
;-}
(towel-snap to Ron, towel-snap to PeterG, Tosses can O' anti-fungal spay to p2b): That should clear that up and make you more acceptable... The scratching is whats off putting. Hittin' the shower fellows, got clean up if I'm gonna hang in a high-class joint like this.
chris @ 44:
Now serving . . chris!
2b, why are you always trying to push the envelope with the site monitor? Quit being such a jerk o.
Wait til you see what P2B's got lined up for us for Christmas: an endless necklace of his pearls of wisdom.
Peter G @ 40:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!!!
You know I love you most of all Peter. ;-}
Blue Lensman @ 52:
I had a dream that Chris was finally grown up and knew WTF he was talking about.
xoites hussein depends the constitution @ 7:
I am not amused by this, 2b. If you want to play a joke do it in your own name.
ferrofluid @ 34:
oh, i'm for obama. and i hope his veep's richardson, who had obama's back when it mattered most.
i used to like edwards, but edwards is a little sissy carpetbagger.
"which way's the wind blowing, johnny reid, north or south?"
xoites hussein depends the constitution @ 21:
I am not amused by this, 2b. If you want to play a joke do it in your own name.
Ron @ 53:
Get no joy out of stressing the SM's. Quite the opposite... Thanks again for your liberal forbearance SM ;-}
Just say the word and I'm there.
[I suggest you take a week off P2b,I'm low on the totem pole,and the others will frown on this tonight.So to avoid being banned,Take a week off. Site Monitor.]
[And I mean a WEEK]
You have absolutely no right under any circumstances to use my name to make a comment here or anywhere else.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 60:
I would suggest that you be spanked but, you would like that too much.
What a joke!!
So rumour has it that the emperor of the Man Made Global Warming myth is going to parachute into the Dems and save them, with a 10 million person Green Army in tow and a $300 million pre-presidential
propagandaadvertising campaign to launch it all. The man, who promotes carbon credits -- can you say invented by Enron? -- is going to not only be the best president America ever had, but is going to give all his democrat sycophants wet dreams, male or female, after all these days anything goes, right? (Hope I don't fall foul to the impeding hate laws. Who needs the first amendment anyway, right?)We are now moving into a period of global cooling -- hence the shift to climate change terminology -- which even the IPCC acknowledges. The MMGW myth would be totally destroyed if there was a free and fair press in this country, but the reality is that it goes against the social engineering agenda being advanced in North America now, so all we hear is the chicken little shills. But the truth has a way of rising to the surface and the ability to set us free and more and more people are waking up to this fraud. You have to want to see the truth, though, or the elusive obvious will be invisible to you.
This country with its torture prisons, police state, illegal wars and fanatical party liners is starting to look more and more like Communist China every day. Sorry, that's not quite true, China hasn't engaged in any illegal wars lately. Yes, some of you will bring up Tibet, true enough, but the silence coming from the US government for the most part indicates to me that the US government realizes they don't have a moral leg to stand on.
All I have to say to the likes of you is wake the hell up. I too used to be under the illusion that Al Gore was a regular guy, but he is as much a globalist shill as any of the rest of them. Now that the war on terror has fallen out of fashion, the war against everyone to save the planet that has to be used to justify the unfolding fascist nanny state. He's as full of his own ego and hubris as the rest of the pseudo presidential candidates and he is playing the useful idiots like you with a vengeance. The globalists are looking to transform this country so profoundly that you won't even recognize it. And you with your mindless fanaticism and blind allegiance are aiding and abetting them.
First verse of a little song I wrote:
Well you know the world is in trouble
And you said you'd do your part
And though the task ahead of us is daunting
There's one place we can start
I know this comes as a bit of a shock
And I'm sorry sir it's true
In order to save the Polar Bear
We're gonna have to kill you....
"...never gonna dance again...
...guilty fingers got no rhythm..."
"WooooHooo Hoooooooo...
Baby please don't goooo..."
Ron @ 61:
I would suggest that you discontinue talking to me, 2b.
You have now put a question into everyone's mind whether what is stated under my name is being said by me or someone else.
I have no further reason to ever post a comment here.
Goodnight.
Peter G @ 54:
teh 'Lockeroom Boy's Club" has a new code system NGT = not going there
lol
;-}
[I refer you to your previous comment...Site Monitor]
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 60:
See ya'll in a week, maybe.
;-}
David @ 62:
Man, slow down. I havn't seen where anyone has taken the Gore for president seriously lately.
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 61:
True enough x. He got me too, big time but on this day I will forgive him and I hope you will too.
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 65:
Hey xiotes, don't let one spoiler ruin our communications. Let 2b be the outcast. Don't ruin a good thing. Remember when I told you about giving out too much information.
Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 50:
Its the halibut scented body spray...for the laddys.
Man things sure soured quickly. Well back to the depression that is reality.
We The People, as progressive liberals have to stick together. I can't and Obama can't do it alone.
I recall that SNL openning skit with President Al Gore addressing the nation, from the White House, oh how I wish it were true...think of all the millions of lives that could have been save by denying dick and shrub the keys to the nation!
Ron @ 68
Senior Democrats mull Al Gore's nomination
By Tim Shipman in Washington
Last Updated: 2:02am BST 31/03/2008
Telegraph.co.uk
Tried to paste link to story but didn't work as usual.
Ron @ 73:
Let me add this.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
David @ 75:
I saw where one of these so called pundits wrote an oped on it, but I don't think anyone took it seriously.
Ah well. So much for humor. Don't feel like joining a circular firing squad tonight. I'm out. GNA
Come on, We The People, we can't let one sour apple spoil the whole barrel. That is an old saying, but it had meaning.
14All @ 6:
I know he is a cool dude and all - WAY out of the Bush League
BUT LETS NOT FORGET he picked LIEBERMAN as VP and could not defend himself against the SWIFTBOATERS, so may be his judgment and abilities were less than advertised??
We The People have individual thoughts and opinions. That is why we have power to overcome all of this. At least you guys got rid of the troll before I got here.
Murdoch daughter hosting fund raiser for Obama! Let's pray old man dies soon and children take over.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/01/murdochs-daughter-hosts-ob...
Ron @ 77:
Obviously someone is, quite a few people actually. Just google Senior Democrats mull Al Gore's nomination and you will run into dozens of hits, and this article was only released a few days ago.
And $300 million spent on publicity while professing to have no interest in the nomination is a great deal of press. Would position him nicely if the nomination process drags on too long. Saving the party and all that.
In the words of Franklin Roosevelt, in politics, there are no accidents. Methinks perspectives floated here and elsewhere touting Al Gore's presidentialness are trial balloons.
And God help us all if they are.
Annie @ 80:
Annie, it was Kerry that was swiftboated. Gore just had the election stolen from by the SCOTUSA.
Children of the future will be reading about Al Gore as a great American in our nation's history. It makes me sick to think about what could have (should have) been with him as our president.
Annie's right Ron.Al Gore ran an awful campaign,and he did pick Lieberman(for what reason I don't know and never will) but it was Kerry and the Swifties.
Ron @ 84:
I stand corrected - Thank you.
It can be so hard to tell the difference between the middle of the road 'centrist' candidates.
And the Lieberman thing...
Shows good judgement?
Let me say again, I like Gore.
He would probably have been better than this criminal bush - But hell who wouldn't be?
Not smart enough to win I guess? Or did he end up realizing he didn't really want it? He capitulated Sooooooo fast.
Imagine someone who respects me stopping by for a moment and seeing this:
"7 xoites hussein depends the constitution Says:
Greetings, Peter G. A bunch of us are talking about voting 2b off the island for dragging down the quality of discourse here. What’s your opinion?"
and then leaving never to read the rest of this thread.
I am so angry right now.
An April Fools' joke does not include dragging someone else into it or damaging their reputation. That is not a joke, that is somethong beyond reason. If i have a problem with a poster (with this exception) i keep my comments directed at them. I do not try to form a committe to go on a witch hunt.
2b is young and immature, most of the time he can be a lot of fun, but he has to understand the limits of behavior here. There are certain things we have to respect here and the highest of all these is each other.
I only want the most obnoxious of people to be banned from this site. These would include people who advocate racism and murder.
2b needs to grow up.
I need to get some sleep.
[he'll be on a short leash for awhile xoites. Site Monitor]
gummitch @ 13:
Don't feel bad - they probably don't want to have sex with you or me either.
I understand where Shakespeare's Sister is coming from though - but I'm already set.
*
Annie @ 87:
No, I would hate to think of LIEberman running for the big kahuna now.
Annie @ 88:
I don't think he capitulated that fast,he did drag it out for a month. But yes, he would have made a far better President...
somethings not quite right here.and I just can't put my finger on it.
xoites Hussein (non typical white person) defends Constitution @ 89:
GN my friend.
I only want those who disagree with me banned.
Or those who say things that isnot right in line with the center.
So only the "Support the Troops" voice is heard.
So only the war was a blunder voice is heard.
So only the 911 case was closed on impact.
So only the "we elected him twice" voice can be heard.
So only the "They have been killing themselves for century" voice can be heard.
So that only snide comments can be made as we enjoy the ticker tape of the demise of everything we ever valued as Americans, as humans - You know the voices of reason.
All the others should respectfully shut up.
Annie @ 94:
A beautiful common sense comment.
anon @ 17:
Although Al has a great many qualites I like, his debate with Ross Perot helped to ratify NAFTA. And NAFTA is as big an economic and domestic disaster, as Iraq has been on the geopolitical front. Millions of middle class americans wiped-out, by that "gift" to the corporate greedheads.
After reading through the McCain Revealed, especially the McCain/Bush similarities by the AFL/CIO, I now understand why Bush is shit-faced happy all the time.He`s senile, just like McCain is,but it hit him in his 50s.At least McCain lasted till his 60s,or did he?
Nah!He`s just a dumb ass like a fox.If McCain wins in 2008,I don`t know what I`ll do,probably move to Pitcairn Island, or some damn where.The usa should be in small letters because there are a bunch of mean small-minded people that have taken over and are ruining/have ruined the place.
Don't fret precious I'm here...
Step away from the window, go back to sleep...
Safe from pain and truth and choice and other poison devils...
See, they don't give a fuck about you, like I do...
I’ll be the one to protect you from your enemies and all your demons...
I'll be the one to protect you from a will to survive and a voice of reason...
I'll be the one to protect you from your enemies and your choices son...
They're one in the same, I must isolate you…
Isolate and save you from yourself...
-A Perfect Circle
sully18 @ 97:
some reality broke through at that baseball game opening pitch, Chimpy looked a tad unhappy with all that booing directed at him,
plus he looked rather hot wearing that armour under his sports windbreaker.
ferrofluid @ 99:
He thinks he macho, we know he's not so.
Ron @ 84:
'Swiftboaters' still organized and funded by the same sleaze team in 00 as 04.
ferrofluid @ 101:
Definitely the RNC, but that's not been exposed yet.
Ron @ 100:
Its a long time between wearing a cheerleaders dress and doing the pitch.
Wonder if anybody will do a video mashup of the pitch , Borat rodeo sketch and maybe the old cheerleading photos.
Ron @ 102:
there are dots between the players, been pretty well documented, but not newsworthy etc.
ferrofluid @ 103:
LOL, maybe he should have dug out his cheerleading outfit.
NoGWBpolicyleftinplace @ 96:
Yes you HIGHLIGHT a real problem we have been having for a long time.
The NEOCONS/Republicans/FreeMarket/Religious nuts have been setting the AGENDA.
It seems like in so many ways the Dems just end up hopping on the repugnut bandwagon, Tax Breaks, Tax 'Refunds'...
I mean the most 'traction the Dems get is by complaing from the right - Like they don't have enough body armour - Instead of, they don't have a legal, moral, humanitarian reason TO BE THERE. So don't stop the war, complain that NOT ENOUGH MONEY is being used...
It is sad that the Dems don't seem to have an agenda.
They have become so centrist as to be irrelivent. They hardly slow or hinder our decline.
How quick will we get a single payer heath care program is either Obama or Clinton is elected?
Bush has left everything in ruins - I think they will be busy.
And yet we still hear the call for 'Hey where's MY tax rebate' - Isn't this rebate just being borrowed from China??
mudshark @ 92:
just needed a couple of 'connected' psychos to contact him or team and drop a nasty hint.
How would anybody handle that, if the ultimate ultimatum was made and you suddenly couldn't trust your safety.
The prize was literally 10s of billions of dollars in war profits for the winning team, which they extracted and salted away offshore.
Ron @ 56:
So was I wrong about what I said??
ferrofluid @ 107:
That sounds a little WACKO...
But If it if you put anyone's life in opposition to 10's of BILIIONS of dollors I guessing they would be dead pretty fast.
chris @ 108:
As usual. What's new?
Unless your name is Bin Laughin'...
Ted Turner finds God?
http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2008-04-01-turner-churches_N.htm?csp=34
If this is real this is interesting if it's a joke it's in poor taste.
ferrofluid @ 107:
and dont forget the loose change of the missing 8-12 (from 20) billion dollars that went to Iraq stacked on pallets.
that was literally stolen bundle by bundle and smuggled out in army duffel bags and suitcases.
Can you imagine 12 billion dollars stacked up in unmarked bills being available for anybody who had a piece of paper asking.
That greases the wheels and provided for a lot of retirement packages and mansions and farms for a lot of vets and CPA officials.
Free money the ultimate incentive to keep an occupation ontrack and morality free.
CNN
Faux
Counterpunch
Commondreams
NYT (2005) $300 million Efraim anybody !?
Guardian (newspaper)
Missing weapons too (used to kill US troops btw)
Best, everyone read this. Good night.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...
Annie @ 109:
The finer points of election shenanigans be dressed up nicely and debated on points of law,
but when big money is going to be made by an unscrupulous hungry (after 8 years of yearning) political criminal class,
the gloves come off and they will do anything to get their noses into the trough.
Witness the Iraq 'war' the mega profits by the Dow listed companies (and the mountainous '29 peak) that was a prize they wanted greatly.
ferrofluid @ 113:
trust me on this one, they didn't put the money in suit cases or duffle bags. They stole the truck too.Duece and a half.
I wonder if many of the war supporters have started peeing their pants after seeing this article? If so, I hope they have a big supply of diapers. If this continues, it looks like those same war supporters will get their chance to fight in wars that they support and they will have no choice but to do it.
Heavy Troop Deployments Are Called Major Risk
Readiness Is Dangerously Low, Army Chief Says
"Senior Army and Marine Corps leaders said yesterday that the increase of more than 30,000 troops in Iraq and Afghanistan has put unsustainable levels of stress on U.S. ground forces and has put their readiness to fight other conflicts at the lowest level in years."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/01/AR200804...
I would reckon a guess that the CPA was run along the lines of the 60s British Metropolitan Police Obscene Publications Squad,
theres no wikipedia article on this sorry chapter in London's policing but it smells the same.
Fall of the Dirty Squad
Basically EVERY police officer (detective) that went through the Met's OPS was corrupted either directly or indirectly by turning a blind eye.
They were in the pockets of the London gangsters and turned blind eyes and protected the favourites for cash, eliminating competition etc.
That house of cards came crashing down in 1972.
It would be interesting if the financial records of the CPA staff and connected people was tabulated and traced.
The style of corruption, the scale of the missing money and the extent of the possible spiders web is the same.
ferrofluid @ 118:
Where would they start backtracking? Such a daunting project.
Joe O. @ 117:
Watching Letterman now...looking at mclame it looks as if he may be bald by november! Whats with the two little strands ala homer simpson? Just shave it off you gump!
Chris F. @ 121:
That's exactly what I was going to comment about, the Letterman Show McCain appearance.
Does anyone else find the "you look like a guy that would have his laptop seized at the airport by authorities" comment ridiculous?
If we live in a country that somebody like Letterman should have his laptop seized than I weep for my future!
WOAH. I never saw thiiis news before. WTF is up with the government? Shielding traitors and aiding foreign spies?
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece
And hot dang Hillary. Why all this crap? I still want to consider myself between both Dem candidates!
http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/04/01/more-on-scai...
Tyler Durden @ 11:
right on, tyler...
A little shameless blog whoring. Sir Edmund Hillary's memorial service at Windsor is being held today. I have a post on my blog about it, should anyone want to stop by for a peek.
http://nthemouse.blogspot.com/
I have a problem with what the federal government wants to do to revamp the way it oversees the banking industry namely give more power of oversight to the federal reserve and get rid of state oversight I seem to recall that it was californis that pursued major credit card charges for late fees generated by shady practices ( ok down right criminial) where the federal was looking the other way and only AFTER california did all the leg work did the fed take over and crow about what a fine job it ( the fed) did to look out for the consumer. Also putting all that power in one place would be a disaster especially if we get another regime like we have now where no wrong is to grave to be overlooked by the cronies that will be put in place.
We need strong stae oversight not some appointee that got his job by kissing up.
The FEd reserve isn't even part of the government just bankers who are the problem
unsurebtwilling @ 127:
Watchit... the clique may ask you to leave...
No soup for you. No soup for seven days.
Sometimes I just close my eyes and pretend that the media still plays a useful role in the republic
I have found it an interesting exercise explaining to a 15YO that this isn't what the media is supposed to be like and at one point they were deservedly respected.
FreedomOfInformationAct @ 74:
That was a good one, free. I laughed my butt off. I loved when "President Gore said we have to help the oil companies because theyre going bankrupt. After all, they would help us.) Classic, classic satire.
I also wish it was true.....
BTW, Melissa. Get out of my fantasy!! I love big guys with a sense of humor. (I think Rodney Dangerfield is a hottie!!) lol
I don't know if anyone noticed the news on the BBC today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7324337.stm
I still think this country has permanently sunk to a new low of which it can never recover from.
Daily Reading pt 1...
Lieberman-Warner: A Political Card Game Worth Playing - http://www.desmogblog.com/lieberman-warner-a-political-card-game-worth-p...
Lieberman-Warner is moderate, but serious. It's not enough, but it is a start. And one could argue those are precisely the attributes that first-time legislation on such a difficult subject ought to have (so long as it isn't weakened, which kind of goes without saying.
Why Peak Oil is so important - http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3786
Because of the critical importance of this petroleum for essentially everything we do economically there are major concerns as to what the financial implications might be. A thoughtful although possibly extreme view of the implications of peak oil on the American Economy has been presented by Gail Tverberg at: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3382#more
Whether you are a hard core Old energy buffoon or a Denier...the clock is ticking not only on the biosphere of Earth...but on your finite, polluting, disgusting old energy source....
And don't bring up the Artic...if we stay on Oil...the planet is doomed...so before you go nuts for the '400 billion possible barrels'...remember you can't make more air or another planet....
Obama is the change that America has tried to hide: Only one candidate offers the radical departure for the 21st century the US needs, for its own sake and the rest of the world's
- http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/apr/01/barackobama.uselecti...
I know this is a 'U.S. election'...but the world is watching and they're holding their breath for it to be Obama....
Iraq War veteran: 1st Cavalry Company from Fort Hood was briefed before the invasion that there were no chemical weapons or WMD in Iraq
- http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080330/LOCAL18/803300370/1195/LOCAL18
McCain's 100 Years War: "Attacks on U.S. Forces Soared at End of March" - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/01/AR200804...
House Panel Launches Probe: Did FBI Ignore Threats To Jail Black Voters? - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/art-levine/house-panel-launches-prob_b_942...
At recent hearings before a House Judiciary subcommittee, new revelations emerged about how the DoJ failed to investigate illegal mailers sent to African-Americans threatening criminal punishment if they registered to vote through a community reform group called ACORN. The House Judiciary Committee is launching a preliminary inquiry into the questionable way that the FBI office in Dallas,after consulting with the Justice Dept,decided not to investigate the intimidating flier targeting Democratic-leaning blacks in a 2006 legislative race.
Ah...so that's what republicans mean by 'voter reform'....
Bill Earls: Joe Lieberman's Hypocrisy and the Hartford Courant's Irony - http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/contributors/1590
Lieberman's as independent as a tumor. And about as useful. The war itself is the cancer. In five long years, it has drained our treasury, battered our economy, worsened our reputation, seriously damaged our military -- equipment destroyed, recruit quality slipping badly, losing valuable men and women every day -- and people such as Lieberman, maybe especially Lieberman, are its enablers.
Daily Reading pt 2...
*****Could the Republicans Pick the Democratic Nominee? — The Untold Story of How the GOP Rigged Florida and Michigan - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/wayne-barrett/could-the-republicans-pic_b_...
Complex article: What started out years ago as Howard Dean’s 50-state organizing strategy for the national party now looks like a 48-state electoral one. Michigan and Florida could become the Ralph Nader of 2000, the great regret that delivers the country once again to four years of darkness.
Umm...just another reason 'staying home in November' is stupid & suicidal....
Embarrassed U.S. Starts to Disown Basra Operation - http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=41804
The Bush administrations suggestions that it was al-Maliki who miscalculated in Basra are clearly false. No significant Iraqi military action can be planned without a range of military support functions being undertaken by the U.S. command.
Bushonomics: 'Food stamps are the symbol of poverty in the US. In the era of the credit crunch, a record 28 million Americans are now relying on them to survive – a sure sign the world's richest country faces economic crisis'
- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/usa-2008-the-great-depr...
Hoover & Bush....sittin' in a tree....
Zogby: Just 28% Believe Rebate Checks Will Boost U.S. Economy - http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1472
More Wal-Mart troubles; 'Errant Messaging: Wal–Mart Under Fire from Better Business Bureau Over Alleged Misleading Ads'
- http://bulldogreporter.com/ME2/Audiences/dirmod.asp?sid=&nm=&type=Publis...
Its just that simple, if you don't 'have to' shop there...then don't....
GOP 'run' government update: 'GAO Blasts Weapons Budget; Cost Overruns Hit $295 Billion' - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/03/31/AR200803...
'Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid says he supports DNC Chairman Howard Dean's plan to have super delegates resolve the Democratic nomination battle by July 1, 2008.'
- http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/01/848315.aspx
Bill Richardson: Loyalty to My Country; 'My recent endorsement of Barack Obama for president has been the subject of much discussion and consternation -- particularly among supporters of Hillary Clinton.'
- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/01/AR2008040100885.html
Daily Reading pt 3...
U.S. doctors support universal health care - survey; So do U.S. patients - http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSN31432035
Gallup Poll: "Dems, Reps Agree: Obama Tougher Opponent for McCain" - http://www.gallup.com/poll/105904/Dems-Reps-Agree-Obama-Tougher-Opponent...
McCain Gets Iraq Facts Wrong Again: Says Sadr — Not Maliki — 'Asked' For Ceasefire - http://thinkprogress.org/2008/04/01/mccain-sadr-facts-wrong/
Mrs. Toes tells me to get over what happened in 2000 in Florida and how our democracy was stolen out from under us.
Never. I will never forget.
Toes @ 134:
Good, because it looks like Clinton is gonna try to do the same thing with the nomination. People should not let it happen again.....
chris @ 44:
I had a dream that Chris got educated and stopped parroting tired GOP talking points...but alas...twas only a dream.
Did Clinton/Gore sign Kyoto? And why did Gore pick Lieberman as a VP?
(go bama)
I'm so old, I remember when liberals HATED Al Gore.
Life is truly perverse.
Hieronymus Braintree @ 138:
I'm so old, I fart dust...
Hieronymus Braintree @ 138:
some still do :-)
though for me, hate is a bit strong..... but i find him more appropriately compared to angelina joline than say, a statesman like russ feingold..... it sometimes baffles me that the media treats him more like a statesman than a celebrity....
What liberal hates Al Gore? Name these nameless people, or do they not exist?
And are statesmen not celebrities in our circle?
I muchly enjoyed Rachel Maddow slamming Scarborough yesterday on Gregory's Race98. Scarborough was visibly annoyed. I don't think they like each other. EG Robinson finished him off
Video at my site
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call 1-900-RUN-GORE now!
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/6/1/14416/00726
seele @ 142:
yeah, my only point was that gore, britney spears and angelina joline, is a more homogenous grouping than gore, feingold and reid...
whatever happened, but gore somehow jumped the shark from the one group into the other.....sometimes his adulating fans seem to forget that....
myself i say screw gore! he won the 2000 election and pounded it away with his gavel, as for kerry the bastard looked so relieved that diebold stoled 2004 he nearly crapped his shorts throwing in the towel , im tired of the democrats running fricking winners who are to god damnd lazy to stand up and fight , tired of raising my hopes up only to take it in the hump by repigs thru crooked means, its time to unsheath the bayonets and stick the repigs in the guts, if we have to kickem in the nuts ,i say git to it, and when will we get candidates who arent more concerned with israels exsistence then our own? when ever i hear a politician spouting that crap i know thier owned by the corporations, israels done nothing for america to deserve 50 billions of our tax dollars every year, im afraid the democratic partys become so infiltraited by the republicans that thiers only a small difference between them , words in speaches dont mean dick if thats all they are going to deliver for us!!!!!
Gore is a coward, and his fear of supporting either clinton or obama in the primary underscores why he will always only be a VP....
superdelegates should be leading people to their candidate....
those that refuse to choose now are just afraid, or have no faith in the party or the process...
ohio progressive (typical non-typical white person) @ 147:
Maybe he saw how absolutely corrupt the system was, and how dirty the GOP was willing to get to win, he just had enough with politics in general and said fuck it.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_bi_ge/bernanke_congress
something interesting to read.
mudshark @ 149:
I wish I was a big business, so I didn't have to pay taxes...
Fuckin corporate fucksticks!!! They can all go to hell!
Give that man a red cape!
ysbaddaden @ 153:
and an orange dunce cap (like a traffic cone)
And now, just today, Obama is saying that he will definately consider Al Gore for a place in his cabinet. Oh my goodness, Al must just be beside himself with gratitude to the arrogant neophyte for even being considered worthy to serve with the great Obama. Certainly an Oscar and Nobel Peace Prize can't hold a candle to that.
Bluesage @ 155:
yeah, gore gave up on meaningful contribution to the party long ago....i agree w/you that gore is likely too arrogant and detached to accept such an honorable position in Obama's admin., but frankly, if he has any selfless good-of-the-people spirit in his soul remaining, i think he ought to....
but he won't...
too much fun hobnobbing with britney spears and angelina joline, and doing the whole hollywood thing...
who could blame him...
he's getting rich without having to pretend it's all for the people and the country....
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