George Snuffleupagus: "Senator Obama, Do you still beat your wife? Yes or no?"

Who needs to know anything about issues that have any true relevance when debates are like this? It is like the Bush Presidency has dumbed down everything in the frikken world.

does anyone know if obama's really going to israel soon?

better pray hard the nutter butters don't get him like they did yitzhak rabin.

u.s. intelligence and secret service... ya'll better bring your a-game.

dallas earlier this year was embarrassing -and disturbing.

Save the Barbary apes?

bullfrog @ 6:

does anyone know if obama's really going to israel soon?

better pray hard the nutter butters don't get him like they did yitzhak rabin.

u.s. intelligence and secret service... ya'll better bring your a-game.

dallas earlier this year was embarrassing -and disturbing.

Speaking of Israel and American politics, did anyone catch this: Jewish Liberals to Launch A Counterpoint to AIPAC

Karen @ 7:

I just watched the now-infamous All Bullshit Channel debate in full. I was struck by the follow-up to the first question posed, "Why not?" (referring to each Senator pledging here and now to be the other's VeeP should s/he lose the nomination.)

After Obama called such a move premature, that Gibson dude followed up by quoting the Constitution:

Just to quote from the Constitution again, 'In every case,' Article II, Section 1, 'after the choice of the president, the person having the greatest number of votes of the electors shall be the Vice President.' If it was good enough in colonial times, why not in these times?

For me, the sheer idiocy of that follow-up was enraging enough. Gibson -- sitting in the National Constitution Center no less -- quoted a part of the Constitution that the founders themselves amended!

I don't consider this a trivial matter. He's quoting from the Constitution, giving the impression that there's some legally enforceable validity to everyone watching, and implying that Obama and Clinton are refusing to do what the Constitution says they should.

Article II, Section 1 doesn't control the presidential elections anymore. The Twelfth Amendment rendered that very clause obsolete! The fucking system didn't work. They didn't like the results they were getting. They explicitly changed it to separate votes for President and Vice President.

Wanna know the circumstances of the election that brought the amendment about? Two members of the same party (Thomas Jefferson and Aaron Burr) were locked in a stalemate, and neither could win a necessary majority of the electoral college vote!!! The House of Representatives had to make the final decision, which put Jefferson in the White House and Burr in the VeeP slot. It was a disaster.

Could this mistake be more ironic?

And by the way, what does it mean to ask, "If it was good enough in colonial times.....?" Colonial times? What is he talking about? The Consti-fucking-tution was already ratified. I think we were long past colonial times by the time we had a President of the United States of America.

Again, this is not trivial. No wonder the hosts concentrated on nonsense for the rest of the debate. These talking heads posit themselves as knowledgeable. They're not. Gibson has no command of history, and no right to be up there questioning presidential candidates.

karen, these corporate vampires will do anything to get their foot in the white house door.

i wasn't bullshitting when i said stock up on holy water and wooden stakes.

might want to pick up some pitchforks and torches while you're at it.

Karen, as well as the fact that invites assasination.

EliteLemming @ 14:

Karen, as well as the fact that invites assasination.

Not sure I understand.

you hillary clinton supporters are really starting to piss me off. veruca salt ain't getting a golden goose egg, let's move on.

i not only want to steamroll diapers mccain, i want to get to work on that scumbag vlad putin, as well as those fucks running china.

yes i'm blogwhoring but for a good cause...help pz myers help the national center for science education improve the search engine ranking for their counter-site to spread the truth about ben stein's lie-fest expelled.

16 Karen Says:

EliteLemming @ 14:

Karen, as well as the fact that invites assasination.

Not sure I understand.

The opposing party in second place may find it convenient to remove the President to ensure their policy gets top billing.

skippy @ 20:

yes i'm blogwhoring but for a good cause...help pz myers help the national center for science education improve the search engine ranking for their counter-site to spread the truth about ben stein's lie-fest expelled.

Happy to help out, but why not link to the website whose ranking you want to help?

I`ve gotta be honest.I used to think LOLmeant lots of luck.I literally laughed out loud when I saw this clip.Thanks LOL

Great video C&L!

I missed the debate, but watched Keith Olbermann tonight. He showed a clip of the debate where Hillary basically declares war on Iran if they attack Israel, and she promised to bomb any country that starts a conflict in the region. Did anyone else see that?

WTF?

Here are the recent poll numbers:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/17/222510/938

Ron @17 naw. they wouldn't shut us down. .....Would They?

Ron-

Again I wonder why we don’t have a refresh or quote button. Do you on certain nights pander to preferred commenters?

You're probably using an Internet Explorer-based browser, right? Maybe the AT&T/Yahoo browser? The same thing happens to me (using AT&T/Yahoo) whenever there's a standard sized YouTube video embedded. IE browsers sometimes take forever to update and fix glitches. I've been told that FireFox is the way to go.

Either you learn all the html encoding tags or you switch to FireFox, my friend. :D

I gots no buttons neither.

SassySandy @ 19:

I saw this clip earlier in the day. It is spot on. Just saw Clinton, Obama , and Edwards on the Colbert Report. It was awesome. Senator Edwards was the best. He would have been the best. Oh well.

I totally agree.
I laughed my ass off.Now I`m like George and Charlie--assless.Oh !I forgot,they`re ball -less too.

34 Andy K Jong Il Says: Ron-

Again I wonder why we don’t have a refresh or quote button. Do you on certain nights pander to preferred commenters?

You’re probably using an Internet Explorer-based browser, right? Maybe the AT&T/Yahoo browser? The same thing happens to me (using AT&T/Yahoo) whenever there’s a standard sized YouTube video embedded. IE browsers sometimes take forever to update and fix glitches. I’ve been told that FireFox is the way to go.

Either you learn all the html encoding tags or you switch to FireFox, my friend. :D

Why do we have to search for a search engine that works to be able to participate in comments. On other C&L blogs I don't have to.

37 David Hawes

At least I got my meds.

Aaaah... Thats goood suds...

EliteLemming @ 43:

41 Bitter Leslie Hussein Says: EliteLemming @ 36:

I gots no buttons neither.

I’m using Safari and can see C&L’s quote and refresh buttons. What browser are you using?

Explorer, but to lazy to change it now.

Never use Internet Explorer because every techie I've met says it's terrible.

Paul's Bunions-

I've been told that it does occur with FireFox at times, too, but you'll get the patch quicker than I will. Or so I've been told.

But, from my experience, it does have something to do with the size of the YouTube embed. When the OP has a different sized YouTube embed(or the WMV/QT options), you probably have all of those tags. Check out another thread- like today's Schuster/Scarborough thread- all your tags will be there. I'll bet you a drink on it.

EliteLemming @ 43:

41 Bitter Leslie Hussein Says: EliteLemming @ 36:

I gots no buttons neither.

I’m using Safari and can see C&L’s quote and refresh buttons. What browser are you using?

Explorer, but to lazy to change it now.

All works well on my Firefox. I love Firefox! I love that I can customize it exactly how I want it. And I love the nifty add-ons that come with it.

one asperin(for the heart) One hydrocodone for the head. Bottoms up!

bullfrog @ 47:

karl rove probably jumped off the neocon bandwagon right about the time hunter s. thompson bit the bullet.

if he turned, would any of you dweebs have figured it out from your coffee shop laptops?

i bet he told pat fitzgeraled EVERYTHING.

come on, if you couldn't pick one neocon for our team, you wouldn't take rove?

I would never want Karl Rove on my political team. He's an idiot. His political insights are hardly insightful. He only wins the elections he wins because he's unscrupulous, and willing to cheat.

Speaking of Constitutional Matters. Check out this new blog...

Never use Internet Explorer because every techie I’ve met says it’s terrible.

Could be true, but....

I've read the commenters at Balloon Juice discussing how shitty Vista is, but some of the folks there- the ones who no software- swear that Vista is good, but people who write software that's supposed to be compatible with Windows- any Windows- take shortcuts to save space. It's the shortcuts (in this case, a shortcut by YouTube's writers, imo) that cause the problems.

All day things have been said about the "debate" on ABC. Stephanopoulos maintains those were valid questions that needed asking. Well guess what, it is a hit piece pure and simple. Read this from TPM. Apparently, the one old lady that asked a question is well known to the press. She doesn't like Obama because he doesn't wear a flag pin and has said so to the TIMES on April 4th. What a COINCIDENCE she turns up as the sole person to ask a question. Stuffy apparently thinks it is okay to screw with the public, first his Hannity question and then someone known to dislike Obama. It ABC, specifically Gibson and Stephanopoulos continue to maintain it was a "debate" then call me the tooth fairy.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Thanks for the advice everybody. Being a self-medicated American, I'm totally comfortable being frustrated.

IMPORTANT MESSAGE INTERCEPTED BY INTERNATIONAL INTELLIGENCE:

(it appears to be an open letter from lord rothschild!)

FUCK ALL Y'ALL USELESS EATERS!!!!!!

aquarius2 @ 58:

All day things have been said about the "debate" on ABC. Stephanopoulos maintains those were valid questions that needed asking. Well guess what, it is a hit piece pure and simple. Read this from TPM. Apparently, the one old lady that asked a question is well known to the press. She doesn't like Obama because he doesn't wear a flag pin and has said so to the TIMES on April 4th. What a COINCIDENCE she turns up as the sole person to ask a question. Stuffy apparently thinks it is okay to screw with the public, first his Hannity question and then someone known to dislike Obama. It ABC, specifically Gibson and Stephanopoulos continue to maintain it was a "debate" then call me the tooth fairy.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/

Missed the debate, but watched clips...didn't you love the cut-tos of Chelsea Clinton? As if Obama didn't have any supporters in the audience, and it was necessary to have Chelsea react to his answers. Based on what I've heard, seen and read it sounds like the entire debate was a hit, primarily on Obama, but on Hillary too. Because the questions were ridiculous! Stephanopoulos and Gibson were reciting from the GOP playbook.

Oh, and did Stephanopoulos ever inform the audience that he used to work for the Clintons?

Operation Cirrhosis in full surge and its working.

Bitter, if they didn't know they aren't eligible.

EliteLemming @ 70:

Bitter, if they didn't know they aren't eligible.

Eligible? You mean eligible to vote? That's a lot of Democrats you'd be disenfranchising.

63 Paul’s Bunions Says: Andy K Jong Il @ 46:

Paul’s Bunions-

I’ve been told that it does occur with FireFox at times, too, but you’ll get the patch quicker than I will. Or so I’ve been told.

But, from my experience, it does have something to do with the size of the YouTube embed. When the OP has a different sized YouTube embed(or the WMV/QT options), you probably have all of those tags. Check out another thread- like today’s Schuster/Scarborough thread- all your tags will be there. I’ll bet you a drink on it.

I just switched to Safari, got it all now!

I always am reluctant to go to Apple applications when I have P.C.

'safari' ....Wasn't a 60's movie. OOPs here cums my nurse.

72 Bitter Leslie Hussein Says: EliteLemming @ 70:

Bitter, if they didn’t know they aren’t eligible.

Eligible? You mean eligible to vote? That’s a lot of Democrats you’d be disenfranchising.

You may be right, but that guy was clearly visible in that administration.

Ron- Yeah! and i want my peas mashed.

If (when) Barack Obama wins the nomination and faces John McCain in their first debate, I won't be surprised if McCain walks to Obama and hands him a flag pin. It will be the ultimate in unpatriotic political chicanery.

Be careful what you wish for, when you say "Fuck the police". You just might be get it.

David, that Depends...

elite@86 I depend on depends sonny! Yew pickin on an owlt man? where's my cane? Can I have sum pudding heer pleeze. jayzuz!

p.s. steven spielberg and george lucas are the godfathers of my dreams. no b.s.

coupla crazy ass california hippies gonna save america.

What reconstruction plan?

’safari’ ….Wasn’t a 60’s movie. OOPs here cums my nurse.

But Daktari was! I'd love to link a clip, but the Man yanked it down! Fuck the Man!

Here's the theme song, anyway.

FUCK THE MAN! And whitey, too. Oh, yeah, the TriLateral Commission, also. And Hanes Inspector 54! I'm chafing here!

ever wonder why those ewoks were so damn jolly at the end of "return of the jedi"?

gawd almighty. No puddin again. Sheet. aym gunna sue dis plase.

Georgie Stephanieopolis goes to the Bilderberg Meetings as well.

98 David Hawes Says: gawd almighty. No puddin again. Sheet. aym gunna sue dis plase.

The nurse just left. I got some pudding for you.

Its in the sheets, ITS IN THE SHEETS, and Sue is one of the good nurses David.

(repeatedly hitting the call button)

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 101:

EliteLemming @ 97:

We need to keep it serious fellas, lest we chase off the norma- SHIT I DROPPED URINAL, OMG, OMG, OMG...

lol

Amen.

if anyone is ever curious, bullfrog was trained by flossie wiley, as well as robert allerton, leal, the flintstones & the jetsons.

EliteLemming @ 107:

P2b... I'm tearin' up... I thought I saw 'em pull the sheet over your face... How ya doin'?

"...on a tight leash...", so I'm stayin' home ;-}

Hey 2 ! yew gut my puddin?

bullfrog @ 18:

you hillary clinton supporters are really starting to piss me off. veruca salt ain't getting a golden goose egg, let's move on.

i not only want to steamroll diapers mccain, i want to get to work on that scumbag vlad putin, as well as those fucks running china.

Russia and China are separate countries, their politics is their own people's concern not ours.
Americas responsibilities ends at the various borders, international treaties notwithstanding.
US politicians are elected by and work for US voters and taxpayers, nobody else in the world has a call on their loyalties or duties.
Of course this doesnt stop the US and Americans giving aid monies and help during natural disasters and lawful UN duties.
we dont meddle in their politics, they dont meddle in ours, we help them when they ask for it, they help us when we ask.
Be a friendly neighbor and friend to the world, the sane world responds back the same.

P2b... I understand and I wish to continue...

Ron @ 111:

107 EliteLemming Says: P2b… I’m tearin’ up… I thought I saw ‘em pull the sheet over your face… How ya doin’?

P2bs' alive. Was he resurrected?

Was upsetting some of the more refined serious types, so staying at my place and trying to keep you's guys outta trouble here, my friends ;-}

bullfrog @ 6:

does anyone know if obama's really going to israel soon?

better pray hard the nutter butters don't get him like they did yitzhak rabin.

u.s. intelligence and secret service... ya'll better bring your a-game.

dallas earlier this year was embarrassing -and disturbing.

Why should he? Who wants to travel all that ways to be disrespected.
Beside he's isn't in Israel's pocket.

Oooh... That's good Sue... Luvvv that Medicated Gold Bond and thanks for the new sheets too.

elite@122 daym kids alwaz steel m' nursez.

Did the candidates get a copy of the questions beforehand?

David Hawes @ 119:

Great site 2! I'm ignore yer mom's advice

I split screen with my first love, C&L, in one window and our little club room in the other, so we can still have fun without making trouble for the good folks here. I'll be at my place listening in from now on. Love you guys/gals ;-}

107 EliteLemming Says: P2b… I’m tearin’ up… I thought I saw ‘em pull the sheet over your face… How ya doin’?

I may have had a misspelling. Without refresh and quote buttons we don't get spell check either. Can you guys check for me the spelling of resurection vs. reserection. I'm kind of bad at spelling.

resurection

i doo luv dem lemmon sisters! i trooly doo. By

107 EliteLemming Says: P2b… I’m tearin’ up… I thought I saw ‘em pull the sheet over your face… How ya doin’?

You don't have any Liberache?

Ron @ 136:

107 EliteLemming Says: P2b… I’m tearin’ up… I thought I saw ‘em pull the sheet over your face… How ya doin’?

You don't have any Liberache?

Don we now our gay apparel!

So LAAAAAME. The only things professional about these "journalists" are the suits, the hairdoos, the makeup and the manicures. Nice job ABC.

tHezombieHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 126:

Did the candidates get a copy of the questions beforehand?

Hillary did but Obama was too suppressed at the stupid questions!

I keep both in my pants, thank you!

Yer just screamin' for a big time hip-check at the blue line then.

TimeforNewLeadership @ 140:

So LAAAAAME. The only things professional about these "journalists" are the suits, the hairdoos, the makeup and the manicures. Nice job ABC.

One thing that has amazed me over the years, is how many so called university educated people can be so dumb.
I suppose with subjects like social studies, media, communications, people get the piece of paper for doing the required number of attendant days.
Then they go into the MSM and prove how dumb they are.

Paul’s Bunions @ 142:

tHezombieHusseinGaMeOfLiFe @ 126:

Did the candidates get a copy of the questions beforehand?

Hillary did but Obama was too suppressed at the stupid questions!

Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.

Why did hillary bring up the "bitter" repug talking points knowing Obama clarified his statements especially for dummies like her?

She will lose big time in PA.

PAR-T

Shhh... Shhhh... David back to sleep now...