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By John Amato Sunday Jun 15, 2008 10:30pmRocco Mediate almost pulled off a huge upset against Tiger Woods. Good for him...
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Shocking video shows death of Reuters cameraman
By David Edwards
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1289
Journalists in Gaza refused to report on military operations by Israeli Defense Forces today as a protest over the killing of Reuters cameraman.
According to Reuters, Fadel Shana, a Reuters photojournalist, was killed by Israeli troops while filming in Gaza Strip on April 16, 2008. Reuters reports that Shana had been following standard press procedure, wearing a flak jacked marked with press symbols. His vehicle was also clearly marked with press stickers.
Shana’s own video tape reveal the final moments before his death.
Reuters has more details here. An ABC News report on the journalists’ protest in Gaza is here.
This video is from ABCNews.com, broadcast June 16, 2008.
Sweet Home Al-Obama!
Colin Powell to endorse Obama?/Rips Bush!
http://gopnot4me.blogspot.com/2008/06/colin-powell-slams-bush-welcome-bu...
Not much of a golf fan, but I admit, it was riveting! Great playing, Rocco.
Here in San Diego county, everyone spoke of nothing else all weekend. We expect the Open will want to come back as soon as possible. The raves from the fans, players, and media keep comin'. It was the best Open in 48 years?!?
91 holes decided by a single stroke! Wow.
"Seven blunders of the world that lead to violence:
wealth without work,
pleasure without conscience,
knowledge without character,
commerce without morality,
science without humanity,
worship without sacrifice,
politics without principle."
-- Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)
big golf fan and i have had the great experience of golfing torrey pines......beautiful place...tiger woods really is a freak of nature....the guy was limping around the course and still pulls it off....wow
GOPnot4me @ 3:
this is just trying to spoil the well. colon is a booshie. fuck him.
more idiots-
http://www.reuters.com/article/vcCandidateFeed2/idUSN16353027?rpc=92
Robert Wexler's new book Fire Breathing Liberal gets good review by The Palm Beach Post.
From the review:
"Is George Bush crazy?" While visiting Syria, Wexler was asked that question by President Bashar al-Assad.
Wexler said he puzzled over the question and how to answer it. He decided it would be best to keep al-Assad guessing.
"I told Assad that he needed to understand that George Bush is capable of taking actions that other presidents might not contemplate."
GOPnot4me @ 5:
Now if we can just get those dips to quit yelling, "Get in the Hole!"! Damn.
via buzzflash
i believe al gore is a good guy....there were many mistakes during the 2000 campaign...he should have had b.clinton with him on the trail....he nominated obama today..2plus minute video
http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=84708&videoChannel=1
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 1:
That is sickening. I'm sure LIEbermann is wanking off to that footage.
Mills Bros. - Hold That Tiger & I Ain't Got Nobody
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aTyKPP2-B5k
GOPnot4me @ 3:
Obama and McSame couldn't be further apart on the issues. Powell needs to peddle his bs someplace else.
Every time the incompetent and inept right-wing Media tells a lie about Michelle Obama, just remember the truth about Cindy "The Lude" McCain.
karl @ 13:
His speech was fantastic tonight. Tomorrow, Hannity will be whining that Gore was ranting. Hannity still can't pass the insanity test.
fastfeat @ 10:
Forgot the link:
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/content/opinion/epaper/2008/06/15/bo...
tigers like to play with their prey before finishing them off.
Like many casual golf fans, I love Tiger. But seeing Rocco, in a very prominent pairing on Sunday, wearing a belt with a huge peace sign as the buckle, made me really pull for him. I think that said quite a bit about the kind of man he is. Today he showed what a lot of guys on the tour already knew, he got game!
Ron @ 18:
Gore has become one of the best speakers for the progressive viewpoint in recent memory. If he had sounded like this eight years ago, we'd all be better off.
Great golf match. Hat tip to both though more so to Rocco.
And though he's the best player in the world Tiger behaved like an asshole. Not so much today but yesterdays throwing clubs was way out of line.
I like Tiger but it grows at little tiresome with the announces fawning over him.
Stop the club throwing Tiger. We don't allow it in our group and we're hacks.
And sign some autographs for the kids.
Hitting a clutch 12-foot putt to force an 18-hole playoff? Damn.
Hitting yet another clutch putt to put the match into sudden death? DAMN!
Doing it all on a knee that looked like it could double as a construction pylon on I-5? Dude, this guy isn't human!
EW @ 21:
I was able to watch and play a game that was interactive over the last 3 days. Came in 10th globally. I'm a hack that's played a total of 2 times this year.
Golf. Golf? Golf?
One of the single most reprehensible abuses, among so many to choose from, is the continual panicmongering from the White House everyday since Sept. 11, 2001 but 2008 will bring down a rain of Repug rejection all across the country.
Thomas Paine
dada @ 16:
As a disabled vet from another time, I still have a certain regard for the General that is not easily shaken.
xoming in second to the best, after pushing him to limits only he can reach, is maybe the best thing for rocco.
he played more like imediate, than mediate.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 29:
He came back in the back nine to gain the lead. He blew a 20' put on the 18th and then went to pieces on the 7th. He was game and he put on one hell of a show.
Trekkie @ 24:
It didn't quite happen that way. The putt to put the match into sudden death was only a 4 footer.
Not saying he isn't a clutch player. He is. And don't know about the knee. Played once with a friend who had a 3 inch hemorrhoid hanging and killing him. And he shot the lights out.
The pain and uncertainty kind of keeps your head down.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 29:
Rocco...what's not to love.
Great job. It's nice to see some joy and perspective from a pro golfer.
jharp @ 31:
He was probably watching the hemorrhoid. Helped him keep his head down.
interesting article sent to me-
When the Republicans choose their candidate on September 4th, there is a
very real chance that they could throw the election into an unexpected chaos
as they pull a genuine September Surprise.
I think there is every reason to believe John McCain won't be the nominee.
Ok, let me say that again. McCain will not be the Republican candidate in
November.
Here's how it could happen:
At some point in mid August, John McCain will announce that he has decided
that he can not accept his party's nomination for president. The reason will
be health-related, and that may turn out to be the truth. Anyone who's seen
him on stage these days knows he looks like he's about to keel over. And
anyone who's been on a presidential campaign knows the physical demands are
grueling and can be a challenge for a young man.
But excuses or facts hardly matters. He won't be accepting his party's
nomination.
The reasons are simple. He can't win. Now that Obama is the presumptive
Democratic nominee -- the polls all show that McCain's pro-war stance and
Bush endorsement make him a lost cause in November. That combined with soft
stand on litmus test conservative issues make him an unpopular candidate
among the base. I know some Democrats that think the Republicans are
planning to let McCain lose and 'sit this one out' so that they can hang the
democrats with a bad economy and a war that is a morass. But that just isn't
how they play. They play to win every hand -- think about 2000 with a
popular Democratic president and good economy and a solid VP running for
president. Why did they put up Bush? And why did they fight so hard? Because
you don't ever throw a game. And they're not going to throw this one.
McCain won't be the nominee.
By August, they'll have done something to try and pick away at Obama's
popularity. They'll emphasize race, or whatever they can to get him to
appear less than perfect. Then, they'll bring out of the woodwork a surprise
candidate who can shift the story fast. With just two months before the
election -- the new candidate will have little time to be 'vetted' but will
be shiny and new, and will get a lot of media attention as Obama's newness
will have become -- by then -- tarnished or at least no longer the surprise
that it has been as he unseated Hillary.
So, who will be the Republican candidate that faces Obama in the fall?
I've spoken to a number of friends who -- when presented with this set of
facts respond: "but they don't have anybody else." That's simply not the
case.
Joe Trippi, campaign consultant and most notably Howard Dean's campaign
manager, said of McCain dropping out: "While crazy, this may be the best
shot they have."
There are a whole list of Republicans who in many ways are more likely to
energize the Republican base. One thing is certain -- there are candidates
that will play to the core issues in ways that McCain simply can't.
Here's a list of names. Some you know, some you don't. But each of them
knows their name is in play. Among them --
Condoleezza Rice (Secretary of State)
Colin Powell (fmr Sec. Of State)
Marilyn Musgrave (Colorado Congresswoman)
Mitt Romney (fmr Massachusetts Governor)
Mike Huckabee (fmr Governor of Arkansas)
Charlie Crist (Florida Governor)
Tim Pawlenty (Minnesota Governor)
Bobby Jindal (Louisiana Governor)
Mark Sanford: (Governor of South Carolina)
John Thune (Senator from South Dakota)
Dick Lugar (Senator from Indiana)
Chuck Hagel (Senator from Nebraska)
MIchael Bloomberg (NYC Mayor)
Ok, go ahead knock them down. One by one. See if you can really remove ALL
these names from a list of candidates that are more likely to give Obama a
run for his money. They'll come on the scene late, with a press corps that
is looking for a horse race and a new story. Obama's frontrunner status will
be upset, and there will be a set of variables that need to be calculated --
and tested against a weary electorate.
Is this supposition? Sure, but one grounded with enough history and
observation to take it beyond conjecture and into the realm of the possible.
So -- before the Democrats go and game out how to beat McCain, it may be worth thinking about what happens when he says he won't accept the nomination. For the Republicans, a wide open convention would be both good theater and good politics.
Ron @ 30:
I wouldn't say he went to pieces. The 7th doesn't set up well for his draw. And that is exactly what cost him when he drew his drive into the bunker.
Just like 18 sets up better for Tiger.
It was an extraordinary display by Rocco. Made one hell of a challenge to the best player in the world and came up a tad short.
jharp @ 23:
With all due respect, I'm getting tired of these debates about how much "passion" an athlete is allowed to show. Woods took way too much heat in the first part of his career for showing too little emotion.
Even some of the greatest gentleman golfers to ever play the game have had days where they have picked up a wedge and tossed into yonder pond. Or let fly a stream of invective that would make a sailor blush. It happens, especially when you're talking about one of the biggest tournaments of the year.
jharp @ 31:
Less reruns and more reading comprehension Trekkie. It did happen that way.
McCain continues to lie
while Bush continues to fail
to convince Iraqis to extend the occupation past Dec. 31. The Dems will defy Bush on jobless benefits extension. A pro-Bush evangelical likes Obama. Little Elian has grown up into a Commie Youth. The Taliban swiped some villages during their jail break. Unlike Bush, other politicians deal with reality, and consider inflation a bad thing.
A soldier who got hurt before he even got into battle is getting screwed out of disability checks. Doctors fight back by rating insurers. Bernanke says we need better health care. Bush could lose 26 more levees
before his term is over. Shoppers are paying for oil directly and indirectly.
GOPnot4me @ 22:
i feel his latest accomplishments are misunderstood.....the global warming....is also about the race to acquire natural resources how that will affect the planet as well as man kind against each other...to me that was part of the reason he was awarded the nobel peace prize...but the right get's into the tie dye t-shirt enviromentalist liberal theme
diana @ 34:
Nice theory but, I don't think they want to win this one. They think they know how short our memorys are and think that they will be able to return to power in 2012. They think we are stupid. Let us never forget.
Top ten freaks of sports : athletes who made you go "Whoa!"
10) Ty Cobb
9) Pele
8) Tiger Woods
7) Shoeless Joe Jackson
6) Secretariat
5) Ben Hogan
4) Wayne Gretzky
3) Joe Montana
2) Jesse Owens
1) Michael Jordan
seevee and trekkie,
The putt to send it into sudden death was a four footer.
And I've got no problem showing emotion and enthusiasm but. Our high school leagues and tournaments around here you are assessed a two shot penalty for club throwing. And I've personally witnessed fellow competitors hit by thrown clubs.
It's out of line. Get ready for your next shot.
Gore waits eight years too late to bash Bush. Military lawyers warned
the SS, I mean the Pentagon, about torture.
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 40:
Babe Zaharis? Could we bump the horse for her?
Reuters responds to army probe
(01:47) Report
Jun. 16 - A Pentagon investigation said US soldiers who killed a Reuters journalist in Iraq acted within military rules.
Reuters Editor-in-Chief David Schlesinger said that while he disagreed with the Pentagon's findings he appreciated the inspector general's recommendation that the US military in Iraq work with media organizations on safety procedures to avoid similar incidents.
Reuters Television soundman Waleed Khaled was filming the aftermath of an insurgent ambush on Iraqi police when his car was fired at.
All apologies Trekkie. It was jharp who doesn't get it.
Your comments about the two clutch putts were dead on.
As if a four footer can't be a clutch putt.
LOL It's the F'ing US Open.
seevee @ 43:
What about Ali and Frazier. There are hundreds of others.
i am trying to stomach listening to hannity keep saying we need to drill in ANWR........mccain voted against drilling their......he has had plenty of guest even that weirdo dick morris say it's speculation should have seen hannity's face....
karl @ 47:
Nah, I'll pass. Seen it too many times. Makes me want to get violent and I'm a peaceful person. Can only take so much.
Ron @ 46:
...and some of them might even be women!
Thank God for Tiger Wood's win.
He's got a family to provide for now, you know.
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 1:
This is neither surprising nor new to anyone who objectively follows what's going on.
The IsraeliTerrorist Force, the ITF, has a long history of targeting foreign journalists, a tactic the US emulated during the occupation of Iraq. It's a direct parallel to how the ITF taught the US how to torture and humiliate muslims (e.g. Koran "abuse") at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere.
Ron @ 46:
Makes me go WHOA!!
LongTooth @ 51:
Doesn't Rocco have family?
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 40:
wilt chamberlain
mickey mantle
willie mays
pete rose (the player)
magic johnson (now there's a name and a legend)
larry bird
jerry west
nolan ryan
sandy koufax (the most brilliant 5-year stretch in baseball history)
.
.
BTW, michael jordan also had the 2nd best player in basketball on his team. that doesn't count?
maybe you're not old enough.
Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 14:
That is sickening. I'm sure LIEbermann is wanking off to that footage.
It was also suicidal, parking your car in a lane then popping your head and body above a hedge line.
It could be asked why the media reports anything on Israel at all if they dont like the treatment of Gaza, better to boycott them 100%.
Then again the journalists in Gaza and Lebanon tread a fine line between recording the various abuses, stories and general day to day stuff, and then its career building time to get a better job outside the war zones.
Its a dangerous job, accidents and deliberate targeting of journalists both happens.
Proud2bHumble @ 53:
Knocks it out of the park and my eyeballs.
Ron @ 46:
Uhhh no.
The nature of top ten lists is that they only have ten.
Any top ten list of "freaks of sports" should include Babe Zaharias.
http://www.babedidriksonzaharias.org/achievements.cfm
Ron @ 47:
you're right!
Cassius Clay/Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
Joe Louis
Jack Johnson
rocky marciano
sugar ray robinson
carlos monzon
marvelous hagler
sugar ray leonard
roberto duran
Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 14:
That is sickening. I'm sure LIEbermann is wanking off to that footage.
Plain f*cked-up! Surprised they let the ambulance get away.
seevee @ 58:
One upmanship will always prevail.
Proud2bHumble @ 53:
OOOHH!!!!!
I'm taking a cold shower, NOW!!!!!!!!!
Top Ten Top Ten Lists
CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory @ 62:
Baby got Back...hand!
seevee @ 46:
Then Rocco made the clutch putt to send it to sudden death.
He made a four footer on eighteen AFTER Tiger made his.
What is it I don't get?
Ron @ 61:
and oneupwomanship in this case is unparalleled, period.
Proud2bHumble @ 63:
Whoa, how did filibuster get in there? Now we're getting somewhere.
casper46 @ 60:
Plain f*cked-up! Surprised they let the ambulance get away.
prob was an accident rather than planned.
planned would have taken out everybody at the scene and follow up.
seevee @ 64:
the williams sisters did bring a lot to tennis.
And I'm damn glad of it!!!!!!!!!!
Proud2bHumble @ 63:
Yo, homeslice. nice pic. DAMN!!! You got taste! :<[)
Everybody in the world has probably seen this but what the hell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_OmnP527Dw Warning Language!!!
jharp @ 65:
Forget it. Sorry I was rude. Great golf match. One for the ages.
gna.
thanks for the cheeks, P2B. Ouch! Damn! Whew!
*wipes forehead*
Great Open. Was nice to see Tiger pushed for a change. Was nicer to see a guy like Rocco doing it too. Golf needs more loosey goosey guys like Rocco. Great way to show kids that the game is more fun when approached with a sense of humour. I heard one astounding stat over the weekend. The fact that Jack Nicklaus finished in the top ten 73 times in Majors.
They said Tiger would have to finish top ten in every major till the year 2019 just to catch him. I think thats one that Jack just might hang on to. Hat tip to my hometown hero David Hearn from Canada here who had a decent tourny but missed cut by 2 strokes. Very enjoyable Open though. Back to Bethpage next year where they have 250 yard plus carries just to get to some fairways. Short hitters like Rocco probably wont be so much in the mix there.
need a few diggs and some more rude songs posted please :)
seevee,
Thanks and no problem. Very exciting match. I was nervous and I didn't even have to make the four footers.
Which I certainly would have missed.
Peter G @ 71:
lol
And this, haha
Night, CIP...sleep
hardwell...hehe;-}
Peter G @ 71:
Why the warning about language? It was english. I thought you were going to say it was something we wouldn't understand.
Seems pretty quiet tonight. Everybody's asleep. Well golf does that to me too.
Peter G @ 79:
...hole in one....zzzzzzzzz
Peter G @ 79:
I'm here.
Well Ron a few of us seem to be inured to the soporific that is golf. I liked that Carlin thing P2B posted. Hadn't seen that one.
Peter G @ 82:
His longer riff is better, just too long for here...
I love my fellow progs, but am always mildly surprised when they're into golf...
Zed Thred's Ded...time ta put it ta bed
Nitey nite all
Hittin’ the road, Jack,”and I ain’t comin’ back no more no more no more no more”…
“Last word, freak.” - Melvin Udall
out
;-}
Me too. GNA Hang in there Ron but don't forget to turn out the lights.
Gna. I tried to keep it going for awhile.
Both Tiger and Rocco were fantastic this time around.
I was much more impressed with Tiger (um, knee surgery anyone?); grunting in pain after every tee shot, his game obviously thrown off, and he still wins.
I never thought I'd say this but that golf was something to watch.
You left out Muhammad Ali.
41 iraqhusseinconcilable Says: Top ten freaks of sports : athletes who made you go “Whoa!”
10) Ty Cobb
9) Pele
8) Tiger Woods
7) Shoeless Joe Jackson
6) Secretariat
5) Ben Hogan
4) Wayne Gretzky
3) Joe Montana
2) Jesse Owens
1) Michael Jordan
---------
You left out Muhammad Ali. Sorry about double post above.
seevee @ 44:
Bump Secretariat? I think not! Let us instead bump that horrible racist Ty Cobb. Secretariat still holds the world record for 1.5 miles, which he set as a 3 year old. After setting records for the Derby. And Preakness. Plus, he was a really nice guy.
Rocco Mediate almost pulled off a huge upset against Tiger Woods. Good for him…
Apparently, "almost" counts in Horseshoes, hand grenades and . . . golf?!
Golf. I gave up golf to show my support for the toops in Iraq.
Ron @ 54:
LongTooth @ 51:
I read somewhere that before this tournament, Mr Mediate (great game by him by the way) had made about $14 million playing golf. So I think he'll be OK.
P.S I'm Australian, so I totally get the sarcasm (hopefully good natured) of the original post. Australians are nearly British that way!
Now that i have given up golf things are much better in Iraq. I urge all Americans to give up golf in order to save the lives of our American Troops and to save the lives of Iraqis.
Golf: Give it up for the sanctity of human life!
I am having too much fun spreading the news with these two links...click on 'two' and 'links' for each...
Piss on those Tonka Toys (that's what I call Hummers)!
Bynrdskynrd @ 95:
Nice little car. If i ever want to get from, say Baghdad to the Baghdad Airport in one piece i would hire three of these and eight heavily armed men as escorts.
.
In the frame and context of what we all know about George W(orst) Bush...
Those that support George W(orst) Bush = Devil's Advocates.
.
The House subpoenaed the FBI interviews with George and Dick. Bush is almost as unpopular as Musharaff and Ahamadinejad. Obama's trying to co-opt
McCain's claim of "progress" in Iraq.
Embittered-Max-Hussein-1 @ 97:
Worse:
They represent really brain dead thick as a brick blind as a bat deaf as a post shit weed (although some may prefer Turd Bolossom) coniving controling devestating ne'er do wells who have planned or lucked into a position of power that is so imense it has no real right to exist lest people of their caliber actually come to grasp its power in their hands.
Michael Reagan's apology gets smacked down by Mark Dice.
http://www.vloggingtheapocalypse.com/music.php?music_id=258&title=REAGAN...
never listen to listen hannity ( why bother) but I had the misfortune to listen to limpballs say we should drill in anwar he even blamed Clinton for not starting to drill while he was president now when I hear that limpball say things like this I find myself talking back to the radio you see my sister listens to him religiously and she goes off on her talking points and I use facts to shoot down each and every one after she goes down in flames ( never bring baseless talking points to a argument facts win out every time) then she goes off on the supposed fact that Nigeria is buying mineral rights in the gulf of mexico ( I was waiting for her to bring up the chinese but she didn't) who's to blame for this the democrats more like those that think free trade is the answer i.e rethugs I mean there are laws on the books that date back to Grant where a company can buy land for pennies on the dollar and mine all they want ( I think they should pay a lot for for this but )
Welcome to the third world where we don't make anything and give away our natural resources
She'll more than likely vote rethug because she watches MSM and listens to the nuts on the right
Does McCain and his wife Cindy have an open marraige agreement?
As I made the rounds in Washington, several people mentioned the story. A theme developed. None would go on the record, but more than one suggested that fidelity in the McCain marriage was not a priority for either partner. I was told that reporters know a lot more than they let on, but they are reticent about bringing it up.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-stark/the-coming-storm-or-why-m_b_107...
Tiger is such an unbelievable punk. (Throwing clubs is such bush league crap) Love...LOVE to see him lose though he rarely does it always brings a smile to my face.
The Pentagon lies about NORAD.
R.I.P. "Daisy" creator.
I have now seen the video footage on serveral sites of Benazir Bhutto telling David Frost, 3 weeks before her own assassination, that Osama Bin Laden WAS MURDERED. David Frost does not refute this assertion.
http://darklydreamingdavid.wordpress.com/2007/12/28/benazir-bhutto-bin-l...
And we the people are expected to believe that George Bush did not know this when he recently asked Gordon Brown to help him catch Bin Laden? Does he not know of the existence of the internet? And what about Brown's non answer?
WE the people are taken for suckers. And he only thought of catching (a murdered) Bin Laden only now, despite his previous assertions that catching him was not important? Lots of contradictions and lies.
cointel Pro Man
I'm an old timer as far as posting on C&L. I look in when I can and you are simply rockin'.
I'll be back when I'm able.
Kudos to John and Nicole.
Anybody that believes that's what's happening now is for something small lives in a cave with someone (called Osama or sumpin') we might want to sell a bridge or 2 million to that guy cuz he's luvin the Pakistan border with a number 2 dude at the ready at all times and then there are the ones who simply aren't paying attention. SNARK (halfway) or maybe an inch.
Anyone ever heard of the true to life WAR GAMES that our military lost before we started dropping the bombs all over what we made hell in Iraq?
LOOK IT UP.
Eric Shinseki....who?
1999 war games predicted problems in Iraq
Exercise showed that chaos was possible even with 400,000 troops
The U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 that anticipated an invasion of Iraq would require 400,000 troops, and even then chaos might ensue.
In its “Desert Crossing” games, 70 military, diplomatic and intelligence officials assumed the high troop levels would be needed to keep order, seal borders and take care of other security needs.
The documents came to light Saturday through a Freedom of Information Act request by the George Washington University’s National Security Archive, an independent research institute and library.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15570330/
1999 war games predicted problems in Iraq
Exercise showed that chaos was possible even with 400,000 troops
WASHINGTON - The U.S. government conducted a series of secret war games in 1999 that anticipated an invasion of Iraq would require 400,000 troops, and even then chaos might ensue.
In its “Desert Crossing” games, 70 military, diplomatic and intelligence officials assumed the high troop levels would be needed to keep order, seal borders and take care of other security needs.
The documents came to light Saturday through a Freedom of Information Act request by the George Washington University’s National Security Archive, an independent research institute and library.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15570330/
Ron Paul does not endorse John McCain
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer talked to Ron Paul about a rally his has planned in the same city as the Republican convention. Paul told Blitzer that his rally would pose a philosophical challenge to the Republican’s convention.
Paul told Blitzer that he had no intention of supporting John McCain. Paul said, “I don’t plan to endorse John McCain unless he changed his views on the war and was interested in the Federal Reserve and all these other things, which is not likely to happen.”
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=1291
Definition of conspiracy by Houghton Mifflin
NOUN:
pl. con�spir�a�cies
An agreement to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act.
A group of conspirators.
Law An agreement between two or more persons to commit a crime or accomplish a legal purpose through illegal action.
A joining or acting together, as if by sinister design: a conspiracy of wind and tide that devastated coastal areas.
America: From Freedom to Fascism (part 1 of 11)
Peter G @ 71:
nice, vintage Billy Connolly was very good in his younger days. and still good going by the newer Youtube videos.
sphinx @ 106:
Thanks very much, Sphinx.
Credit this blog with being a hub in the struggle.
Keep coming, when opportunity presents.
Army Overseer Tells of Ouster Over KBR Stir
By JAMES RISEN
The official who managed the Pentagon's largest contract in Iraq said he was fired when he would not approve over $1 billion in questionable charges.
Booming, China Faults U.S. Policy on the Economy
By EDWARD WONG
Americans once scolded the Chinese on mismanaging their economy. But in recent weeks, the fingers have been wagging in the other direction.
Johnny2Bad @ 103:
we all KKKnow why!
thanks for playing.
sphinx @ 106:
there were also Iran Wargames and they went disastrously. that hasn't stopped the megalomaniacs, either.
you're probably already on top of that.
somehow, boosh has the best vacation schedule. The disasters always seem to happen when boosh is off playing somewhere.
Obama Sandbagged! A video you must see!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/beverly-davis/obama-vs-mccain-digging-i_b_...
via buzzflash
the always delusional, mis-speaking mcStraightjacket claims we are winning an occupation.
Why do they always lie and pretend that these people cannot think for themselves?
iraqhusseinconcilable @ 41:
Very good list, but I have to offer a few changes:
Gretsky IMHO should be at the top........If you watched the guy play you know its true.
If you put old timer Shoeless Joe ahead of Ty Cobb then you have to add Rogers Hornsby.......the sad part is that you have to leave out Ted Williams,Stan Musial,Hank Aaron, Willy Mays, Pete Rose etc........pick Ty Cobb and leave it at that.
I saw Pele play when he was older.......good choice!
Joe Montana or Brett Favre? hmmm, that's a toss up....If the game were at Lambeau Stadium, 25 degrees at kickoff......I'd put money on BF!
Jesse Owens yes, absolutely, and I would add Jackie Joyner-Kersey.
Ben Hogan and Tiger Woods and no Jack Niklaus, or Arnie Palmer?.......At the end of his career Tiger WILL be the best......choose one and be happy!
Michael Jordan yes! There is was magic in his fadeaway jumper, but if Jerry West had the 3-point shot in his day.....whew! nuttin-but-net!
Wilt Chamberlain was boring to watch but he could light up the scoreboard, and he caused the NBA to raise the basket to the current level!!!
I would still give the nod to Michael Jordan.
Well anyway the sun is up I have our Kayaks loaded and it's time to roust the crew. Have a great day!
Obama vs McCain: Digging-In or "Standing Ready"
WOW!
Radically Moderate @ 122:
YOU'RE OLDER THAN ME!
:<[)
but you're jaded.
Apparently Florida optical scan voting machines DON'T allow for counting of ballots as thought (opinion piece):
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/search/content/opinion/epaper/2008/06/15/a2...
Interesting about the silence except for this editorial...
Iowa's Flood Waters May Take 5 To 10 Days To Totally Recede
June 16, 2008 3:01 p.m. EST
Vittorio Hernandez - AHN News Writer
Cedar Rapids, IA (AHN) - Iowa's worst nightmare is expected to end soon as floodwaters started to recede Monday. The flood, Iowa's worst in 30 years, had rendered 36,000 residents homeless and destroyed billions of homes, farms and properties expected to exceed $2 billion in value.
Experts said this year's flood would go beyond the $2.1 billion losses registered in 1993, of which $1 billion was for destroyed farmlands and lost harvest. In Cedar Rapids alone, damage was estimated at $750 million, 50 percent of this were waterlogged houses and personal effects.
To bring back Iowa to its feet, Lee Clancey, president of Cedar Rapid's Chamber of Commerce, said at least $2 billion to $3 billion would be needed.
meet the new british pm, same as the old pm. the only thing missing is the goosestep.
and the asshat reagan still doesn't get it.
Ex-Pentagon Lawyers Face Inquiry on Interrogation Role
By MARK MAZZETTI
Senior lawyers played a more active role than previously known in developing techniques approved for use at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, say officials familiar with an investigation.
Court to Hear Challenge From Muslims Held After 9/11
By LINDA GREENHOUSE</strong>
The Supreme Court agreed to decide whether top government officials can be sued for damages by Muslim men who were rounded up in the immediate aftermath of Sept. 11, 2001.
buzzflash
How DARE they have a golf tournamanet when there's a WAR going on !
If the Preznit can give up golf during the war, America should follow.
Didn't they get the presidential memo ? (oops, I forgot. This administration destroys all evidence)
dude had a peace sign belt buckle. how can you not like that?
Obamamite @ 133:
I thought that was a Mercedes Benz logo.
The Genocide Continues
Darfur's plight is not yet hopeless, but without greater
international commitment it may become so.
Ya think?
Dr. (terrorist fist jab) Matt @ 17:
They should have a 'First Lady' Debate. Michelle vs Cindy, steel cage, no holds barred, death match.
A hair pulling, eye-gouging, nail scratching, shin kicking intellectual discussion of the issues.
In a Town Hall setting of course.
With the aiding and abetting of the MSM they swiftboated John Kerry so would a factual assessment of John McCain's military service be too much to for the MSM? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffrey-klein/mccains-secret-questionab_b_...
With the aiding and abetting of the MSM they swiftboated John Kerry so would a factual assessment of John McCain’s military service be too much to ask for the MSM? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....07409.html
Ruthless People @ 138:
Forget the details of their military service. It all boils down to this ..
McSame was a POW and Kerry opposed and criticised the war when he returned.
Those two things are what Repugs cling to with their lives and it affects many Americans in a similar way.
Hi USA, this evening i got a look at a raw satellite feed of CNN (American version) and MSNBC. Are all the talking head shows that bad? The Joe Scarborough piece "Morning joe"
is so boring and inane. Then I got to look at the FOX network FNS, man that is just so bad I can't describe it. They paint such a strange look at what is going on.
Hopefully most of the people on Crooks and Liars get their news from the Internet, cause if you don't you have no idea what is going on in the rest of the world.
FOX says that McLame has a really good chance of winning over Obama, hopefully they are as full of crap as everyone here says they are.
Here is a good look at what some other countries are saying and thinking about bush.
El Pais, Spain
A World Without Poles
♠Bangkok-Bob♠ in Chiang Mai @ 141:
Bob--
Not only that, they PAY for the dreck!
I'm in a motel room in another state for work for a few days that has about 70 channels, including the ones you mentioned. Haven't watched ANY of them, just CSPAN and Comedy Central. Between the two of these, more news than on all the "news" channels combined.
I remember what I considered the dorkiest name for a Mickey Spillane hero, Tiger Mann.
The Exotic Chico Hussein Escuela @ 140:
I disagree. the facts never mattered. the media portrayals did.
The Man in the Room
By BOB HERBERT
At Walter Reed Army Medical Center two young soldiers learn the meaning of friendship.
fastfeat @ 142:
I can see why. I get much of my News from BBC International and from America Watch
Another Bad Deal for Baghdad
By KARL E. MEYER
The "strategic alliance" with Iraq that President Bush is proposing eerily resembles a failed treaty between Britain and Iraq that prompted a nationalist eruption in Baghdad.
Daily Reading pt 1...
Honda rolls out new zero-emission car; Welcome to the 21st Century - http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5is-WLvgmNMniTcwwWeDWidZkWRKwD91B8G8O0
The FCX Clarity, which runs on hydrogen and electricity, emits only water and none of the noxious fumes believed to induce global warming. It is also two times more energy efficient than a gas-electric hybrid and three times that of a standard gasoline-powered car, the company says.
Environment-U.S.: "Water Is Alive, It Hears Our Words" - By Alice Gordon - http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=42790
Native Americans and others completed a 10-day "Walk for the Water" this week along the Chattahoochee River, which some estimates say will dry up completely by 2025 due to pressure from the rapidly growing city of Atlanta.
"Local governments in metro Atlanta welcome and approve new developments on a daily basis, with little certainty that water will be available for newcomers in the decades to come. There is talk about water conservation, but no funded incentives and mandates from state leaders. In fact, the only new conservation measure passed in the 2008 legislative session (GOP dominated) was a three-day sales-tax holiday on water-efficient appliances." (Yipee! We're saved!)
"States are fighting over rights. Water has become like everything else: a commodity rather than being given to us freely by the creator and used as it was meant to be. It is being used for commercial purposes... It becomes a resource, and like all resources is to be used up rather than taken care of."
Diversion of volume, and climate crisis...the most precious resource after oxygen for life... "We don't inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children" - David Brower Sierra Club Founder
Depends on the definition of the word 'mandatory', John McCain doesn't appear to understand his own emissions plan - http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/6/16/124515/466
I'm seeing shades of Bush's infamous "Tribal sovereignty" speech - www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5xVRXLgLxw
The price isn't right, Nuclear power is expensive - http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/6/13/11021/6597
Amazingly, the utility won't even stand behind the exorbitant tripled cost for the plant. In its filing with state regulators, Progress Energy warned that its new $17 billion estimate for its planned nuclear facility is "nonbinding" and "subject to change over time."
This would seem to be the exact opposite of the old claim for the nuclear industry, "Too cheap to meter." Now it's so expensive the company raises your rates before the power even gets to the meter!
Al Gore endorses Barack Obama: Former vice president tells Detroit crowd, ‘elections matter’ - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25198995/
Video - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2008/06/16/VI20080616...
There can't be both history has shown us this (from Greece, to Rome): Empire or Democracy: Are We Ready for the Fall? - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/john-w-whitehead/empire-or-democracy-are-w...
Increasingly, parallels are being drawn between the Roman Empire and the current American Empire. Yet while some may look to Rome as an inspiration, others believe it casts a dark shadow over us and our supposedly imperial aspirations.
There is a story, often told, that upon exiting the Constitutional Convention Benjamin Franklin was approached by a group of citizens asking what sort of government the delegates had created.
His answer was: "A republic, if you can keep it." The brevity of that response should not cause us to under-value its essential meaning: democratic republics are not merely founded upon the consent of the people, they are also absolutely dependent upon the active and informed involvement of the people for their continued good health.
Empire or Republic? by Robert Scheer - http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20080614_empire_or_republic/
War doesn’t pay, nor does imperial ambition. This proposition should be evident to anyone who has paid attention to the fivefold increase in the price of oil since George W. Bush took office. The principle of nonintervention is neither liberal nor conservative in orientation, and at the inception of the Republic it was accepted as a commonsense.
The dominant assumption of our nation’s founders was to avoid “foreign entanglements,” to use Thomas Jefferson’s words of warning. Indeed, the policy of nonintervention was considered by the founders as a basic demarcation between the politics of the Old and New Worlds. Explaining in his farewell address why he, as our first President, followed “our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances, with any portion of the foreign world,”
George Washington cautioned his countrymen to “moderate the fury of party spirit, to warn against the mischiefs of foreign intrigue, to guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.” What has happened to the American people that these modest yet profound sentiments seem so foreign to the tongues of our politicians and the ears of their constituents? Who among our top leaders, Democrat or Republican, dares warn against the “impostures of pretended patriotism”?
Wiretaps "R" Us: Is the FBI Tracking Your Cellphone? - http://www.dissidentvoice.org/2008/06/wiretaps-r-us-is-the-fbi-tracking-...
In other words, despite prohibitions on the FBI's ability to spy on Americans, the Bureau is storing illegally-obtained data in a centralized data-mining "warehouse" for indefinite retrieval purposes, say, during a "state of national emergency" when the "usual suspects" can be "disappeared"
In other words, in addition to “known and suspected terrorists,” presumably al-Qaeda and their minions, additional “potential threats” to the capitalist order are named: domestic “radical groups” and “disgruntled employees.”
One needn’t be a “conspiracy buff” to recognize — cooly and rationally — that the national security surveillance state under construction since before 9/11, can trace its lineage back to domestic counterinsurgency operations such as the FBI’s COINTELPRO or “civil disturbance” contingency plans such as NORTHCOM’s contemporaneous “Garden Plot” and “Cable Splicer” projects.
Daily Reading pt 2...
End of the 'Moderate': Matt Taibbi: Full Metal McCain; 'Haunted by the ghosts of Vietnam, the one-time maverick has transformed himself into just another liberal-bashing fearmonger' - http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/21129038/full_metal_mccain
In the computer age, John McCain is running for president, yet he says he doesn't know how to use a computer. "I am a illiterate that has to rely on my wife for all the assistance I can get," said McCain. - http://thedailyvoice.com/voice/2008/06/mccain-admits-he-doesnt-know-h-00...
Um....holy (insert words here).....anyone voting for him...my swampland is back on the market...
MUST READ: David Sirota: Debating Grover (Pedophile) Norquist, America's Leading Fake Populist - http://www.ourfuture.org/blog-entry/debating-grover-norquist-americas-le...
This is a person who in the face of $4.50 gasoline and $40 billion in ExxonMobil profits tells us that we should give away more policy goodies to the oil companies. This is a person who in the face of polls showing the public thinks the tax system is fundamentally unfair in the wake of the Bush tax cuts, says we should nonetheless push forward with even more regressive tax cuts.
This is a person who in the face of massive budget deficits and social service cuts, says we should slash corporate tax rates, even though our effective corporate tax rate is among the lowest in the industrialized world. This is, in short, a person who is so insulated inside the Beltway and so coddled by the Big Money interests that have financed his career that he quite literally has no idea that there's an uprising going on throughout the country - and no official photos of him with statues of Ronald Reagan can hide that reality.
GOP Voter Suppression Update: ACLU, press groups seek to open voting case; Judge asked to reconsider ruling barring disclosure of machine test results - http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/index.ssf?/base/news-10/12131607531...
It Was What Thinking People Feared - Many Imprisoned by U.S. were Innocent - http://www.chron.com/commons/persona.html?newspaperUserId=eljefebob&plck...
"This is not what the US is about. Do we want to catch and punish the bad guys? Absolutely. Do we want to stop global terrorism? Absolutely. However, those who argue that Gitmo is the way to do it are making a false argument. I contend that the way we have been seen behaving on the world stage in regard to imprisonment, the withholding of basic human rights, the restriction of access to the courts, and our treatment of prisoners has actually fueled terrorism, not fought it."
John Edwards has a change of heart on being VP? -- Be-Elected - http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/election08/218
Moral obligation, patriotic duty: State poll shows Oregonians ready and willing to do what it takes to halt climate change - http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/6/16/103415/932
Ah....3 more days I'll be there....I might not come back :) Future home...
A good sign: Toyota hybrid battery outpaced by demand - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/japan_toyota_hybrids
“Yes We Can” Obama video wins Emmy - http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/06/16/%e2%80%9cyes-we-can%e2%8...
GOP Superstar Bobby Jindal: Exorcist And Creationist Buffoon? - http://www.thoughttheater.com/2008/06/bobby_jindal_gop_superstarexorcist...
McCain: Most. Ironic. Comment. Ever - http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/McCain_Most_Ironic_Comment_Ever.html
Comfortable retirement a fading dream for many - http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/06/16/MNFK112ELJ.DTL
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