Karl Rove's odd advice for John McCain
By Steve Benen Thursday Aug 07, 2008 9:00pm
Back in April, in a WSJ column, Karl Rove urged John McCain to be less reserved about his personal life and background, and run more on his biography. “[I]t is clear,” Rove wrote, “that Mr. McCain is one of the most private individuals to run for president in history.”
Four months later, Rove recycled the exact same point in another WSJ column.
Mr. McCain is the most private person to run for president since Calvin Coolidge in the 1920s. He needs to share (or allow others to share) more about him, especially his faith. The McCain and Obama campaigns are mirror opposites. Mr. McCain offers little biography, while Mr. Obama is nothing but.
Rove has McCain’s strategy entirely backwards. McCain isn’t a private person at all — as the Weekly Standard’s Dean Barnett put it, “You know how you can tell really private people? They spend 26 years in public life as a politician. They also do things like host Saturday Night Live where they sing Streisand tunes before a national TV audience.”
“McCain offers little biography”? McCain has been offering little but biography.
As for the suggestion that McCain do more to share “his faith,” there's a good reason we haven't seen more religion talk from McCain: it's a very awkward subject for him.
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Sorry Karl, I don't read trash novels.
Turd Blossom!
They should roll out all those cameos and guest appearances on all those movies he has done. And he says Obama is the celebrity!
Best advise is don't give any unless someone asks for it.
Fighting with Russia spreads to cities across Georgia.
I thought KKKarl was in jail.
LA@5, Where is it being reported? CNN?
Private? They mean secretive. We've had enough of that.
Attila the Neopopulist, no Stomach for Imperial Adventures @ 6:
ditto
I thought something was finally going to happen to put that pointy nosed little turd behind bars.
John McCain making an ABSOLUTE FOOL of himself at the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sK-LEyyf7d4
McCain’s Major Gaffes ~ Great Compilation…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWX5u69hmzY
P.D. @ 7:
http://tinyurl.com/64wp7s
or
http://tinyurl.com/6qp3y9
John McCain doesn't share his "faith" because he doesn't have any to share.
well, i for one, took rove's advice as a decree to drag maverick over a bed of coals.
it's like that old native american indian saying: man who look for gold often dig up buffalo chip.
L.A. Confidential @ 11:
George W Bush set the example by invading Iraq so Bush can't squawk about this. He has no room to talk.
bullfrog @ 13:
Very funny.
And yet mccain is supposed to be the guy we know and Obama is the unknown? Can you say schizophrenia? Rove is NOT a healthy person.
Mccain has shown his personal struggle with jars of applesauce .
We talk about him wearing adult diapers, but is it really true? Perhaps Cal Thomas or some other cromagnon pundit can ask that very question?
Who is Karl Rove to make comment on anybody?
First Question:
Who cares what Karl says, and does Karl Rove's opinion
mean anything in the future of America?
Second Question:
If Karl Rove's opinion means, or determines, where America is going, can
someone out there , explain or enligthen everbody else , where America is going
,as per Karl Roves means ( or philosophy of thinking)?
Third Question:
Sort of like question # 2.
Karl is clueless. If you think he is not , please explain?
The end game of this is not good for Americans.
If you think it is , then good for you.
Washington politics ( and Karl Rove ) is a disfunstonal process.
The process may correct itself. Here's hopping.
Rove, the crony master and turd-blossom, has been helping the GOP since Nixon.
If you look on Youtube, you can find him in his early turd-blossoming days sending out mailers for Nixon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM0zJl9Bxk8
Why has there been no discussion of the "Keating 5?" Wasn't Mr. McCain a involved with them. That was a big government bailout at the Public's expense.
Sen McCain is certainly no wall flower. I know more about him than I care to as it is.
Terrible @ 16:
This is how the republicans work. Rove is a very smart deceitful dishonest piece of ****. He gets the mouthpieces to say whatever the hell they want to say and the fricking mainstream media repeats it and repeats it like it's a fact and half the idiot drones in this country believe it. Sometimes I worry that the rich and powerful have gained so much power during the 8 hellacious years of Bush that we will never get our country back.
The only time Karl Rove should be giving any political comments is from a jail cell. He's got a supoena out on his ass yet he get's to go anywhere he wants. This man should be at least explaining to a judge why he shouldn't be put in jail.
Its ALWAYS opposite day for Rove.
Reasonstein @ 19:
I thought I smelled something and checked my shoes. Nope, I didn't step in anything.
Cats r Flyfishn @ 14:
And in both cases it was/is for oil.
I know this is probably a tempest in a teapot, but has anyone else been watching the opening ceremonies for the Olympics? The Bushes are/were there, and NBC's cameras cut to them every now and again during the parade of nations. When the US came in, Bush naturally stood up and applauded, with a little flag that he waved for them.
A few minutes later, when (I believe) the team from Thailand came through, Bob Costas and Matt Lauer began to talk about the President's controversial remarks he made in Bangkok prior to coming to Beijing. They cut to Bush, slumped in his seat, lazily tapping his little flag against his thigh, as if he were waiting for the first opportunity to leave the stadium and get back to his hotel.
The video just seemed to speak volumes about the "leader of the free world". Please someone tell me that they captured it.
Clint @ 27:
I gave up on it due to NBC's need to cut to commercials every 10 minutes (as if the Bob & Matt's blather wasn't enough of a reason).
Clint @ 27:
Sorry, but I've got no way to capture video. However, my girlfriend and I noticed the same thing. She said he looked like a five-year-old.
As for the thread topic, I take it Rove neither read nor watched Faith of My Fathers which covers both his biography and, presumably, his faith. I could go on, but I'm preaching to the choir as it is.
One thing about Rove, he tells you what his message is going to be (signalled this whole elite thing weeks ago), then he does it. They have their message, and they won't stop. They have no shame. All they need is 51% of of voters to believe it (sometimes 49%). McCain can win with the malarky. It's happened before.
McCain doesn't seem to have any trouble talking about other subjects "he knows notihng about" despite the fact that he frequently does "embarass himself" - so why not talk about his alleged "faith"?
On the larger question of why Rove is recycling advice from 4 months back .. I read this column a few days ago and wondered the same thing .. my fervent hope is that Rove is rattled by the prospect of being frog-marched to the DUNGEON in the basement of the Congressional Building.
.. one can always hope ..
He needs to share (or allow others to share) more about him, especially his faith.
Yeah, Rove really knows all about this one. He's a master at manipulating other peoples' religious feelings while having none himself. Too bad he can't teach McCranky how to be a better liar.
Matt Taibbi on McCain and religion:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/21896154/without_a_prayer
"Sitting here in the North Phoenix Baptist pews, he has a look on his face like he'd just as well suck a cock as do an altar call. It's one of his most likable qualities."
McCain switched from Episcopalian to Baptist. Bottom line, he switched from gay to straight. Not surprised.
McCain always serves the master Moloch.
Since when has any kind of faith become an integeral part of government? Divide the people up even more on hardcore faiths.
These people are trulely sick, severely demented, greedy, power hungry criminals.
They have, with premeditation and pre-planning, killed countless innocents,and plan to kill many many more, to be exactly where they are now.
Very, very rich, and very, very powerful. Above the laws even!
Nobody is stopping it. Why? Is it so much bigger than we can even fathom? They are doing it right in front of our faces and even admitting to it!
The lies have been neverending and ...recorded on VIDEO TAPE, but they are not even shown or discussed. There is NOTHING better for the shear weight of evidence than having it permenantly on video tape.
The mounds of evidence, destroyed and eleminated whenever they felt like it, as we watched it happening, and did nothing.
The level of powers taken to new heights like it's never seen before. They wrote their own set of rules, exactly the way they want it, so only they can benefit from it. They demand total unprecidented secracy. They demand we have none.
The war they pre-planned, to benefit from, is as real as it can get, and WITHOUT ANY SORT OF LOGICAL END! They counted on our resolve, as their bubble. Now they continue to count on our stupidity, they have built up to new heights, through all their manipulation of what used to be reported as the TRUTH.
Their record profits are real. Their powers are real. Their plans are real, for all to see on the media they own. The continual LIES,...are real.
Nobody stopping them is very, very unreal.
Attila the Neopopulist, no Stomach for Imperial Adventures @ 6:
Wouldn't you love to find out KKKarl is in jail and is some big, tough dude's BITCH! Then again, he might just enjoy that. :-)
Rove, himself a non-believer, thinks he can play the christianists for saps as he did in 2002 and 2004. It is gradually being accepted that the GOP under Rove was able to win elections for a while, but the party fails miserably at teh governing. There are simply fewer people who can be fooled all the time.
"make it so", captain rove says to ensign limbaugh
the truth is not important- if rove wants to create a fake contrast between the two all he has to do is say so- even if it's not on the official GOP talking points list for the day the talk radio blowhards will create rove's new reality by repeating it . over and over and over all over the country. by the end of the week- presto!
perhaps Rover boy never really knew what he was talking about at all. perhaps all this time he's just a been very talented smear merchant, and been very lucky at times, winning by mere margins. and having jurists hand your man the job. there's no one more deserving of public humiliation than fatboy. if only congress would arrest him for contempt and do the perp walk with him. if only...
Karl Rove's odd.
I suppose the important question is, how does Rove think this particular advice will keep him out of jail?
Because if McCain loses, that's where Karl is going. What could be a greater conflict of interest? Why doesn't anyone in the MSM mention this?
For Rove up is down, white is black and day is night.
Check out Rove's family history and background.
I don't think mental stability is in the cards for him.
Attila the Neopopulist, no Stomach for Imperial Adventures @ 6:
I haven't heard anyone yet dispel the rumors about the KKK support of John MKKKain.
Fil Hussein Oaks @ 45:
That's funny, I recently heard the same rumor! KKKarl and MKKKain now have the same playbook, so it would not surprise me if the rumor is true.
KKKarl Rove making comparisons between McCain campaigning and fmr. pres. Coolidge, may be moreover how fmr. pres. Warren G. Harding tried to maintain damage control (if any) after losing valuable White House china to his cronies in a poker game (wonder if that china is recoverable on e-bay, even though it had been missing since the early 1920's).
Thats why they can't send this bastard to jail. He is busy setting up another election for McCain, this time.
We are going to be waiting in the wings for his fat ass this time.
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