The Deadlier Real Front
By Cernig Wednesday Aug 20, 2008 4:50pmBrandon Friedman at VetVoice today notes that "The fatality rate in Afghanistan during the past 10 weeks would be equivalent to 353 deaths in Iraq at the same time--a rate not even seen during the bloody crescendo of 2007."
Will McCain, who has had tunnel vision on the Iraq war he helped start all along (and wants to pick and choose his timeline there to show how good his "judgement" is), now do another flip-flop and admit Afghanistan has always been the real central front in the battle against Islamic extremist terrorism?
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My first first
Don't you love MSM total avoidance when it comes to Iraq and Afghanistan? Iraqi leaders want our asses out of there by June of next year. And Afghanistan is falling apart. I don't know about you, but didn't Bush say no timetables? I guess when the Iraqis TOLD Bush we had to leave, he had to comply.
And don't forget to donate what you can afford to keeps the ads coming about Senator McCain.
Don't forget the "New Front"
U.S. demands Russia leave Georgia "now"
Reuters - 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Make sure your affairs are in order, because the penalty for shortsightedness in allowing this repub administration to continue unchecked is going to the the draft. You'll be spending next winter in a
crowded tent on the Russian border.
Of COURSE he's gonna flip flop.
I can't wait to see it happen. I think it'll happen in a day or two.
I am all for a draft of some kind. However, there should be no deferments. If everyone is elgible, we will have some very different views on wars.
Wow. That's a sobering statistic.
Rick @ 6:
You got that right. And make EVERY male eligible that can work a shovel, drive a vehicle, or clean out a latrine. You will definitely get the Neocon fairies to reconsider, especially if they or there kids have to go.
LA@4, Maybe McCain's draft comment was a Freudian Slip?
An insurgency will continue, absent a political solution, as long as the insurgents have a safe base, a reservoir of recruits and intact supply lines. In this case that base would be the tribal areas of Pakistan where, with the assistance of the Pakistani intelligence services all of these conditions obtain. McCain has expressed his resolve not to violate the territorial integrity of Pakistan. Given that it is a nuclear power that is not an indefensible position. They may be subject to economic pressure but unless McCain is willing to engage in some heavy diplomacy (and that's not really his style is it?) this insurgency will continue unabated. Perhaps if we ask him nicely he'll reveal how you win this type of war. I really can't see how the Bush/McCain strategy can possibly succeed.
Russia's always been the big goal.
Iraq and Afghanistan we're envisioned as nothing more then U.S. forward bases from which to hassle The Bear.
i hate to spoil anyone's war dreams, but the majority of people that are doing the killing of u.s. troops are people that are defending themselves against invading forces. there is no "good war" --
those suffering the brunt of the hostilities perpetrated by occupying forces are -- unfortunately -- civilians. how many of those killed or wounded had anything to do with the attacks on 911? a) few
b) none c) some
Patty D. @ 2:
So in McLame's view, the Iraqi's are legislating there own defeat?
Bismarck @ 8:
I would agree with that but include females also. The problem is that my son, who is in the Army, says most of the guys in the military don't want the draft back. They are in the military due to their own choice. They don't want to be fighting beside someone who was forced to be in there. Both my husband and I were in the military by choice and I understand what he is talking about.
If it weren't for that, I would say - hell, yes, and get the children of the members of the government first (unless their parents on on record for resisting wars)
Islamic terrorism.
What a fucking joke.
The U.S. government has done infinitely more to hurt the American people (to provide profit to major corporations) than has any foreign terrorist.
VietVet8666 @ 15:
And it's done much more terrorising in the world than all Muslim 'terrorists' put together.
miss_kitty @ 16:
right about that
VietVet8666 @ 17:
that is the truth, but i think we're not supposed to say, or even think such things.
Rick @ 6:
Forcing individuals to serve the purposes of other individuals is to demand sacrifice of human life, lives measured in time for each individual's pursuit of happiness.) Even if people appear to be shallow and "fritter their time away." I think that instead of a draft, financial incentives should be raised, instead of this slavery.
jerzen @ 12:
Jerzen
Extremely well said. One wonders when someone in the sycophantic media will ask the [alleged] "Peace Candidate" why it is acceptable to kill a man who is fighting for his country in Afghanistan than it is in Iraq. Or why it is acceptable to add more U.S. troops to a country which has already had 500 lb. bombs dropped on its citizens from American F 16 fighter planes as a supposed justification in fighting the "war on terror".
Correction to comment #20. The penultimate sentence should read "... why it is more acceptable to kill a man who is fighting for his country in Afghanistan than it is in Iraq."
Hey, Cernig.
Stop drinking the same MIC koolaid as McCain, Bush and Obama. There is no "...real front on Islamic terrorism".
Its a fraud.
find a leader in government who actually cares.
Erroll @ 20:
choking, suffocating and burning peoples lungs with white phosphorous 'frees' them, its the Republican way.
Johnny2Bad @ 22:
but there are various oil fields and oil pipelines, all in need of liberating for democracy.
What a ridiculous argument. So if only 10 died last week in Iraq, what does that now do to his equation for Afgahistan?
Excue me, that is Afghanistan.
rb @ 26:
ferrofluid @ 25:
And thats why we fight.
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