Despite ad released telling Obama "How perfect that your nomination would come on this historic day. Tomorrow, we'll be back at it. But tonight Senator, job well done." John McCain waited all of 2 minutes before attacking Barack Obama and his speech.

McCain released harshly negative response at 11:02 PM. Typical Repuglians slime machine, and pretty typical of the McCain campain and their double-talk express.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/McCains_response.html#comments

A war criminal gets away with involuntary manslaughter. Workers haven't been this depressed since Bush pre-9/11. Rove was the one who threw Lieberman under the bus.

Well it's time for them to own their failure. It's time for us to change America. And that's why I'm running for president of the United States.

You see, we Democrats have a very different measure of what constitutes progress in this country.

We measure progress by how many people can find a job that pays the mortgage; whether you can put a little extra money away at the end of each month so you can someday watch your child receive her college diploma. We measure progress in the 23 million new jobs that were created when Bill Clinton was president -- when the average American family saw its income go up $7,500 instead of go down $2,000 like it has under George Bush.

Don't worry folks, under a McCain administration,you will be fine, stop whining, it will be just:

1-War with Iran.
2-War with Russia.
3-War with Germany since Putin is president of Germany and giving cold-war style speeches.
4-War with North Korea.
5-and my friends, we have to stand up to China too.
6-$100 Trillion deficit.
7-No oil for you my friends, you don't need to drive a car, play some sports, start jugging [c expletive].

but that's all, I mean, come on , nothing dangerous. he will not attack Pakistan, my friends Pakistan is a sovereign nation, shame on you, SHAME ON YOU, you want attack a sovereign nation in the 21st century? is this logical? you are warmongers and bunch of whiners, now go back to work and leave POTUS ALONE!! , unpatriotic crazy leftist liberals who want to destroy our nation.

JimboSlice @ 2:

Despite ad released telling Obama "How perfect that your nomination would come on this historic day. Tomorrow, we'll be back at it. But tonight Senator, job well done." John McCain waited all of 2 minutes before attacking Barack Obama and his speech.

McCain released harshly negative response at 11:02 PM. Typical Repuglians slime machine, and pretty typical of the McCain campain and their double-talk express.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/McCains_response.html#comments

It's a pretty good sign, actually. They said they were going to hold off on the negativism for one night, but had to break their promise after Obama's speech. (And honestly, was it really worth it for THAT stale list of recycled talking points?)

What RNC? I heard on MSNBC that it might not happen "because of Gustav."

The republicants suffered a severe head injury tonight. I think the DNC and the Obama campaign have been throttling their forces until after the convention. Joe Sixpack doesn't start paying attention until now. And now it's time to set the record straight.

If they are selling a DVD of the Democratic Convention, I want it!

The Republicans are on. the. ropes.

Good luck beating back the guy who can sting like a butterfly and float like a bee.

Barack has given the Democrats their very own Muhammad Ali.

TIM PAWLENTY IS A FLIP-FLOPPER.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeFyAd1sDAs

The most frequent anti-Obama talking point I keep hearing is : " He's a great speaker but the fact is he's setting the public up for a huge let-down should he become president ."

A huge let-down ? We've had eight years of "huge let-down" . There is nothing, repeat NOTHING, that Obama could do that would surpass the let-down the world has experienced since Dubya was selected .
And you Hillary backers who say you'll vote for McCain ...... stay home. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face, especially if you can't afford the health care .

Rovethrew ieberman under t bus? I hve leanedfrom ln exerience that Rove will do pretty much the opposite of what he says. I put even odds on a John Sidney/Holy Joe ticket.

Barack. Keep your pimp hand strong...

McCain lies about "Russian aggression."
Obama lies about "Russian aggression."

xoites defends Constitution @ 17:

David @ 15:

"my friend", Poster #8,
McCain knows firsthand the terrors of war, probably better than Sen. Obama. Because of this, he will not go around looking for wars, but he also knows that sometimes War is the only option.
About the ad, John McCain's comment about the houses and economy are taken out of context. Senator McCain does not live in all those houses, and might even have relatives living there. When he said the fundamentals of the economy are strong, he didn't mean that everything is nice and rosy, but that the United States has the long term capacity to emerge out of this downturn stronger than before.
I dislike any time the comments of either Senator are taken out of context, including taking out of context Obama's vote on abortions that has been publicized recently.

To quote John McCain, "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb
Bomb, Bomb, Iran."

This does not sound like a man seeking peace to me.

Why is that?

McCain doesn't know shit.

He has proven to an unreliable narrator of his own life who can't be trusted on the issues, he's beholden to any corporate special interest that comes begging (can the man ever say no?), and he's totally indifferent to human suffering (bomb bomb bomb Iran - he probably relives his North Vietnam bombing career every night after dinner when he's nodding off in front of some John Wayne movie).

In short, not presidential material.

In any way.

powerful and inspiring speech tonight by Barack!

Republicans motivate their voters with fear

Democrats motivate with INSPIRATION

Republicans now have a lot to be afraid of..............; the refueled and positive inspiration of Democrats!

There is an absolute disconnect between this:

For Bush and Republican presidential candidate John McCain, Gustav threatens to provide an untimely reminder of Hurricane Katrina. A new major storm along the Gulf Coast would renew memories of one of the low points of the Bush administration, while pulling public attention away from McCain’s formal coronation as the GOP presidential nominee.

Senior Republicans said images of political celebration in the Twin Cities while thousands of Americans flee a hurricane could be disastrous.

And this:

“Senator McCain has always been sensitive to national crisis,” said McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds, noting that the senator postponed announcing his presidential candidacy in 2000 because of the war in the Balkans. “We are monitoring the situation very closely.”

Wasn't McCain eating birthday cake with GW when Katrina hit?

I mean .. how are they going to spin that?

"McCain" and "sensitive" do not belong in the same sentence with each other.

these guys are the real reason mccain understands/looks for wars.you might remember these guys:

*charlie black....lobbyist......long GOP history
*rick davis........lobbyist..big lucrative firm
*phil gram.........ubs warburg,enron loopholes,mortgage
deregulation that has affected all of us directly/indirectly
*randy scheunemann...lobbyist...behind georgia/mccain
what do these guys have in common NEOCON agenda
warmongering

JimboSlice @ 2:

Despite ad released telling Obama "How perfect that your nomination would come on this historic day. Tomorrow, we'll be back at it. But tonight Senator, job well done." John McCain waited all of 2 minutes before attacking Barack Obama and his speech.

McCain released harshly negative response at 11:02 PM. Typical Repuglians slime machine, and pretty typical of the McCain campain and their double-talk express.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0808/McCains_response.html#comments

.

The 'perfect' ad is NO perfect at all - an old Southern rascist patronizing an upstart of color. Check it out.

And, the prune juice ad w/ a familiar character.

The good news: trolls are going nuts all over, NYT pix 'darkened' Obama again. None are showing the fantastic visuals of the Invesco Field (skycam) tonight. Their knickers are in a twist. Let them have their mortuary balloons falling off the ceiling next week.

Check out David Brooks' reaction to Obama's speech. Simply shameful.

bobby Dem @ 29:

The problem is the president of the United States does not control the economy..

No, the problem is that the POTUS doesn't care about the economy...same with McPOWPOWPOW

I am fleshing out an argument that can encompass the magnitude of our collective despair. Maybe our predicament is sufficent to provide me the inspiration I need, in order to convey something that is devoid of accusations, but filled, instead, with observations that many of you can share.

My girlfriend and I just bought a home a little over two months ago. Just now, I was outside enjoying the cold air of New England thinking about the age of our home (built in the 1920's), along with the evident craftsmanship that went into piecing it together. This brought me to the realization that we don't strive for quality, in general, but rather, the MBA-inspired and CEO-approved term of productivity. I work for an IT company, whose products are obviously produced in Asia and the Pan-Asian handle. However, getting back to the bit about our home, am I the only one that thinks a great many of our companies are out to build the homes of today on the cheap, in order to make a lot of money ? Not only that, but it also goes without saying that those people involved with the process of building our homes and many other of our infrastructure projects are not given the conditions necessary to exercise their jobs in a manner where they can improve their craft to where they become, like during the Renaissance, masters in their field.

Nowadays, if you can save a company money, like our good friend Al Dunlap was with Sunbeam, you suddenly are rewarded by the board of directors with a massive salary and even bigger bonus... What have you done to ensure the long term survival of your firm, but most importantly, your people ? That is what I feel most of modern politicians don't grasp. Yes, the senior management of any large Fortune 500 company can donate vast amounts of money to your compaign, expecting that you vote in their favor come policy or bill drafting time. That said, what about the workers of those companies ? The collective purchasing power of that mass of people employed by those Fortune 500 companies has been diminishing for some time now (since Reagan).

I have no problem with you making a large sum from the stock options (as long as they are not illegaly back dated so that you can basically appear to have made the best financial desicion for yourself, with the benefit of hindsight), but what about also giving the workers a share in that productivity increase ? The software engineers, the welders, the mechanics, the doctors, the nurses, the teachers, and everyone else who spends a lifetime studying or learning to become great at what they do. Shouldn't all these people expect some kind of financial reward for their efforts ?

I hear many conservatives rail against the liberal agenda of sharing the wealth as being patently unjust, unfair and against market principles. However, did the market cause Bear Stearns to collapse or was it fraud (the latter is more like it, but those responsible might not be held accountable for years), in which case, there is always an easy excuse to whisk away the lasting and pervasive devastation that this collapse has wrought. I, for one, wouldn't mind scaling down from $100 Million a year to maybe $1 or $2 Million, because at what point does the greed that supposedly drove you to the top, also drown out the noble efforts of others that enabled you to accomplish your goals ?

I harken back to the argument that your fortune wasn't made out of thin air, but rather, you benefited from our systems in place, such as the public schools, the clean air you breathed along the way, the highways, the public servants that took your patent applications, etc. It's time that this idea of the market fixing all our worries was exposed for the fraud that it is. I know, certain special circumstances have prevented from that theory from being fully expressed.

I have only one thing to say about this. My parents escaped a communist country on foot and hiked the mountains of Italy to seek refuge in the west. Sure, as a now staunch neo-conservative high school acquaintance of mine told me about the noble idea of communism at time, it's a great idea, but never realizing that once applied with people, certain variables shifted the end result dramatically. I just wish we could all be a little better informed about our government, its failings and how all of us might be best suited to pitch in.

But returning to the idea that quality appears to have left our daily pursuit for productivity, leads, sales and many other financially-measured motivations, can we incorporate other elements like sustainability and quality into the model ? I wonder.

Cheers,
k

I was sitting in a local bar watching Barack on the television. Next to me was a Rupublican who won't vote for Obama because he thinks Barack will raise taxes on people like him. We couldn't agree on much, except that Dubya has been a disaster. When Barack took the stage and started speaking, I said "It's a wonderful thing that a young black man can be nominated to the highest seat in the land. We've come a long way as a country." The gentleman next to me lifted his pint and said "Amen to that brother!"

It was an inspirational moment.

31 aileen1935 Says: Why do we not hear about Cindy’s half sister (she claims to be an only child) ..?
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EXCLUSIVE: Cindy McCain's Half Sister: "I'm Voting for Barack Obama"

Cindy McCain's half sister is planning on voting for Barack Obama, she tells Usmagazine.com.

"I'm not voting for McCain," Kathleen Hensley Portalski tells Us. "I have a different political standpoint.

"I'm voting for Obama," the Phoenix resident says. "I think his proposals to improve the country are more positive and I'm not a big war believer."

Portalski, 65, and the potential first lady, 54, have the same father: Jim Hensley, the founder of the beer distributor Hensley and Co. that Cindy McCain now chairs.

In an interview with NPR News' All Things Considered last week, Portalski said she felt "like a non-person" after Cindy McCain described herself as an "only child."

Portalski's mother is Hensley's first wife; Cindy McCain's mother, Marguerite Hensley, also had another daughter from her first marriage.

"She's kinda cool, standoffish," Portalski tells Us of her half sister.

Portalski also doesn't expect Cindy McCain to make an effort to reconcile their relationship.

"She never has, and I doubt that she ever will," she tells Us.

Portalski's son Nathan, a 45-year-old aerospace machinist, is also backing Obama.

"I wouldn't vote for John McCain if he was a Democrat," he tells Us. "I would not vote at all before I'd vote for him.

"I question whether Cindy is someone I'd want to see in the White House as first lady," he adds.

No love lost .. no love to lose ..

There you have it !!

james k. sayre @ 22:

McCain lies about "Russian aggression."
Obama lies about "Russian aggression."

KGB trolls have the night out tonight, why don't you join your friends, in Gori - for khachapuri, or, in Srebrenitza for chevapchici ? Watch out - Georgians are very hungry w/Ruskiye blocades, Srebrenitza graves have not settled yet. Might get overly entertaining. Have fun.

this is a good interview with an expert regarding the difference between mccain and obama as far as health care proposals as of now

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93975730

Vietnam War:
Purpose: To keep S. Vietnam from being overrun by Communist N. Vietnam.
Result: All of Vietnam is now a Communist country.
Net Gain: Zero

McCain has learned nothing from his POW experience. If we hadn't gotten ourselves involved in that senseless war, then he would never have gotten shot down and spent five hears of his life in that hellhole prison. Somebody explain it to him — please!

Here's something for the trolls tonight:
Gay Republican Cards

http://letters.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/08/28/mccain_response/vi...

the Rights Response to Obama speech

Friday, Aug. 29, 2008 01:46 EDT
McCain camp responds

DENVER -- John McCain's campaign has released its response to Barack Obama's speech here tonight. The statement, attributed to spokesman Brian Rogers, reads:

Tonight, Americans witnessed a misleading speech that was so fundamentally at odds with the meager record of Barack Obama. When the temple comes down, the fireworks end, and the words are over, the facts remain: Senator Obama still has no record of bipartisanship, still opposes offshore drilling, still voted to raise taxes on those making just $42,000 per year, and still voted against funds for American troops in harm's way. The fact remains: Barack Obama is still not ready to be President.

― Alex Koppelman

David @ 17:

"my friend", Poster #8,
McCain knows firsthand the terrors of war, probably better than Sen. Obama. Because of this, he will not go around looking for wars, but he also knows that sometimes War is the only option.
About the ad, John McCain's comment about the houses and economy are taken out of context. Senator McCain does not live in all those houses, and might even have relatives living there. When he said the fundamentals of the economy are strong, he didn't mean that everything is nice and rosy, but that the United States has the long term capacity to emerge out of this downturn stronger than before.
I dislike any time the comments of either Senator are taken out of context, including taking out of context Obama's vote on abortions that has been publicized recently.

I lived under intense bombing several times when I was a child and again when I became adult, the people living under the bombing feel much differently from people who operate the bombers, just in case you haven't noticed that. I don't say McCain didn't suffer,obviously he did as a POW, but he is not the only one in the universe, and it is not an excuse neither evidence of opinions. being under war, I support war in some contexts when there are no other options left, but I think it is not a joke, or appropriate for a song.

McCain showed well beyond doubt that he is like Bush or even worst, cares nothing about diplomacy, at least Bush tried to see the "soul" in Putin, McCain even before Georgia invasion, he was talking about kicking Russia out of G8. whatever you think about Russia, you should try diplomacy with them and not lecturing them or provoking them or threatening them, they are not kids, they are a sovereign nation too with plenty of nuclear weapons, does McCain think it is appropriate to make more enemies to the US when the War On Terror even haven't been won? Do you think it is wise to make more enemies?

Can anyone tell me the need for the missile defense system in eastern Europe in a rush way disregarding Russia concerns? I know Russia is bad, but why not try to engage them into diplomacy instead of going ahead with your plannings anyway.

my friend @ 56:

bobby Dem @ 48:

StirFry @ 38:

bobby Dem @ 29:
No, the problem is that the POTUS doesn't care about the economy...same with McPOWPOWPOW

Even if he does what can he do about it? Its a market economy..

yeah rrrright! hint: taxes, budget, international trade agreements/deals, spending, wars, energy policy, minimizing disasters' effects, immigration laws, reputation overseas....

Maybe the president can't change it

good entry i was trying to make the same point you did a better job.

They need to air this clip....ALOT. See McCain trash the American work ethic....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWOZKeOauNI

Pass this on to 5 of your friends.

#59, Texas Democrat.....

Oh, oh, but, but, you took that video out of context. I think he said, "you can't do it, my friend.....because there are illegal aliens working there as well picking lettuce, and they will kill you.....be very afraid of these aliens."

General Jack D. Ripper @ 61:

#59, Texas Democrat.....

Oh, oh, but, but, you took that video out of context. I think he said, "you can't do it, my friend.....because there are illegal aliens working there as well picking lettuce, and they will kill you.....be very afraid of these aliens."

Yeah but put it out there anyway. Let them defend it. It's time to play hardball. No more Mr. Nice Democrats.

55 my friend Says:

Can anyone tell me the need for the missile defense system in eastern Europe in a rush way disregarding Russia concerns? I know Russia is bad, but why not try to engage them into diplomacy instead of going ahead with your plannings anyway.
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It's all about profit and politics.

First, it's provocative of Russia. If peace breaks out a lot of "American" military-industrial corporations will stop making obscene profits, and creating fear of Russia by provoking Russia will be very profitable for them.

Second, the missile defense system doesn't work (shh!) but it is a VERY expensive ongoing military industrial project with an open ended budget and no time limit for completion, so by making it "necessary" the military industrial profiteers guarantee their project will continue to be funded.

And third, it's election season, and McCain's perceived "strength" is foreign policy - specifically, talking tough to get his supporters all worked up.

But - as you question implies - it is an act of insanity if world peace and prosperity are your goals.

right on! @ 66:

xoites defends Constitution @ 15:

Bush has just been uninvited to the Republican National Convention!

Right on!!!

personally i would have liked seeing him their. he is such an easy target. the GOP found an excuse to get rid of him. i would put money on it.

bobby Dem @ 31:

The problem is the president of the United States does not control the economy..

and another problem is he can't control himself either...

The Dems re-co-opt Born in the U.S.A. the way Springsteen intended.

you guys interested on russia check this out

http://www.spacewar.com/reports/08_Missile_Defenses_Harking_Back_To_The_...

My husband and I laughed out loud at the commentator-hacks trying to pour cold water on a great convention and failing to dampen the enthusiasm... thank goodness for C-Span so you could actually hear what the speakers were saying. My favorite was the retired nurse that used to vote Republican, only not this time!

75 kablooie Says: My husband and I laughed out loud at the commentator-hacks trying to pour cold water on a great convention and failing to dampen the enthusiasm… thank goodness for C-Span so you could actually hear what the speakers were saying. My favorite was the retired nurse that used to vote Republican, only not this time!
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I almost posted the same sentiment about the retired nurse.

She - and maybe a couple of dozen "ordinary citizens" like her - were the "glue" that held the whole convention together. They provided the reality check that brought all the high-minded words right back down to the ground.

I watched all of all four days on c-span and heard from posters here how badly the MSM talked over and chopped up the major speeches, and heard that they completely left out precisely these "ordinary citizen" moments.

I was inspired by the convention.

And yes, that nurse - "I'm a lifelong Republican. I voted for Nixon. I voted for Reagan. I voted for both Bushes. But I can't take four more years .."

right on! @ 62:

Tequila @ 4:

Rove was the one who threw Lieberman under the bus.

right where Lieberman belongs in my opinion...

Lieberman is an amorphous, invertebrate. When you have no bones, being run over by a bus doesn't concern you much.

constituent @ 29:

putin says bush trying to help mccain get in office

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4628711.ece

Silent Patriot,
Count me in as someone who can't wait for the RNC.

I have my neo-con comic slap downs already. I work in a very republican, very homophobic office and have with that in mind, I've come up with the following to tease my co-workers with:

-With the GOP coming to Minneapolis/St. Paul, they've had to widen all the stalls at the Hubert H. Humphrey airport.

-All of the young, male staffers at the Xcel Energy Center have been warned, if you drop you wallet at the RNC, kick it home.

More to come. ;-)

Absolute best part of the speech: obama wiping smirk off bill the bloody kristol 's face on faux news.

MountainMan23 @ 83:

80 constituent Says: constituent @ 29:

putin says bush trying to help mccain get in office

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....628711.ece
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Thanks for the link - I picked it up from one of the other threads & read it.

Right after the major combat ended either Medyedev or Putin said they figured Cheney was behind Saakashvili’s decision to shell Tshkinvali.

I think Putin is spot-on; I’ve agreed with him before he said it!!

But I’d go one step further. It wasn’t just a campaign trick to help McCain get elected. It was another effort by the Neocons to destabilize the region to ensure there will be plenty of conflict for them to continue to manipulate for their profit.

Poland rushed to initiate the “Missile Defense Shield” - a highly provocative move, but also sheer lunacy from a realistic perspective. The American Missile Shield is an enormous defense department boondoggle. It doesn’t work, but it is an open ended project with unlimited spending potential.

Check out who is the Polish Minister of Defense who signed the deal - Sikorski.

Just before he went back to Poland to become the Minister of Defense he was a Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute - RIGHT WING AMERICAN THINK TANK.

Saakashvili - Columbia Law School, NY Lawyer, then Pres of Georgia.

Sikorski - American Enterprise Institute, then Poland’ Minister of Defense.

Very tight little group rocking the boat - for profit.

i think that's an interesting point.......destabilizing the region....this i believe is the same off/on strategy in the middle east. now they trying to get iran to bite.

xoites defends Constitution @ 19:

David @ 15:

"my friend", Poster #8,
McCain knows firsthand the terrors of war, probably better than Sen. Obama. Because of this, he will not go around looking for wars, but he also knows that sometimes War is the only option.
About the ad, John McCain's comment about the houses and economy are taken out of context. Senator McCain does not live in all those houses, and might even have relatives living there. When he said the fundamentals of the economy are strong, he didn't mean that everything is nice and rosy, but that the United States has the long term capacity to emerge out of this downturn stronger than before.
I dislike any time the comments of either Senator are taken out of context, including taking out of context Obama's vote on abortions that has been publicized recently.

To quote John McCain, "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb
Bomb, Bomb, Iran."

This does not sound like a man seeking peace to me.

Why is that?

I'm just spit-balling but...because you are more of a Jan and Dean type of guy? ;-)

MountainMan23 @ 35:

27 constituent Says: putin says bush trying to help mccain get in office

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/t.....628711.ece
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Thanks for the link - I picked it up from one of the other threads & read it.

Right after the major combat ended either Medyedev or Putin said they figured Cheney was behind Saakashvili's decision to shell Tshkinvali.

I think Putin is spot-on; I've agreed with him before he said it!!

But I'd go one step further. It wasn't just a campaign trick to help McCain get elected. It was another effort by the Neocons to destabilize the region to ensure there will be plenty of conflict for them to continue to manipulate for their profit.

Poland rushed to initiate the "Missile Defense Shield" - a highly provocative move, but also sheer lunacy from a realistic perspective. The American Missile Shield is an enormous defense department boondoggle. It doesn't work, but it is an open ended project with unlimited spending potential.

Check out who is the Polish Minister of Defense who signed the deal - Sikorski.

Just before he went back to Poland to become the Minister of Defense he was a Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute - RIGHT WING AMERICAN THINK TANK.

Saakashvili - Columbia Law School, NY Lawyer, then Pres of Georgia.

Sikorski - American Enterprise Institute, then Poland' Minister of Defense.

Very tight little group rocking the boat - for profit.

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" I think Putin is spot-on; I've agreed with him before he said it!! " WOOOW - why do you think KGB Putin is your guy ? Like boosh, you can read his mind ??!

Mr ARMCHAIR Expert: You are quite PATHETIC in your SUPERFICIAL bs 'analysis'.

Which US NON-right-wing think-tank offered these people ANY chance to get into Western ways of thinking after FIVE decades under the Soviet yoke ? Can you name ONE ? Who were the fellow/scholarships offered to, of what duration?

Sikorski is married to Anne Applebaum, with whom he attended Oxford Uni in the UK. her parents are wealthy Washingtonians - Sikorski and Anne had small kids and grandparents wanted to have them around - that's the link to the American Enterprise Institute. He never had a US work permit to be employed otherwise. He is considered a provincial prick in Poland (comes from a blue-collar provincial town, very low on Polish scale), but fluent in English (useful in foreign contacts), and paid his price being in opposition to the communist government. Ended up at Oxford stranded in UK when the 1981 martial law in Poland was declared, could NOT go back to Poland for over 10 years, would be imprisoned - was sentenced by commies in absentia.

You have not a hint what is left/ right wing here vs. Europe, and how different it's between the West and Eastern Europe. And, still different in Scandinavia. All the flavors.

What's wrong with Columbia Law School ? What's wrong that these people long for independence from Soviets/Russia ?
What are your degrees/experience that you are such an expert in international affairs? What foreign languages do you use, what level ?

And, one has to be lobotomized to TRUST KGB Putin, even over Darth Vader. You've lost your senses in your TUNNEL VISION.

How about Putin is manipulating the weakened US in pre-election mess to ADVANCE the Soviet/Russian LEBENSRAUM he's been consequently realizing for years ? For both domestic and international consumption. How long have you lived in
Soviets/Russia that you are so confident with your theories? How's your Russian to study the original sources ?

There is ONE common thing between the Americans and Russians: know-all-experts, knowing NOTHING, gulping propaganda for breakfast. No other nationalities display such instant arrogance. It became much worse under boosh.
Obama has the good sense to get it all, hopefully the message will trickle down: study/think first, maybe some day you will become more knowledgeable.

Why can't McCain just do like Bob Dole and make a new career out of pimping Viagra? At least that way he'll only be torturing his wife -- not the whole country and the rest of the world as well.

yecch, blecch!

ok...the time of good feelings is now over

i want to know about the lobbyest secret parties that were held

i want to know why dean and the leadership allowed them to occur

i want to know that reid and pelossi will be turned out of their leadership roles

i want to know that holy joe will be kicked to the curb

i want to know that a real war crimes tribunal...not the bs trial that aquitted the marine of murder...will be held for bush, cheney and ashkroft

i want front row seats to their executions

Sitemonitor - can you check plse where is my message I 'posted' here abt 10-15 minutes ago ?

I hope the hackers will let you catch a breath before November:

O'Bama O'Biden 0'8 0'12

As we can tell from this article just like a prescription drug, John McCain has some side effects.

So I put it in a video earlier today:

THE SIDE EFFECTS OF JOHN MCCAIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBqs26mpg8o

McPOW had better be very quick with the teleprompter when he gives his speech. Maybe he'll choose a green background again? One can only hope.

Mitt will have a perfect suit, but we'll all be wondering if it's dark blue, or black (as it can be hard to tell), and not hear him screeching, "DOUBLE GITMO" (every hair in place).

All you lib-labs need to chill out. He forgets how many houses he has. So what? He's old. Let's see what you remember when you're 72. I explain it all for you here.

I truly hate the media. I hate them. The only thing they have revealed at the convention is that they hate anyone opposing the reichwing agenda and that they have absolutely no respect for the american people.

President Bush and John McCain might not be at the Republican Convention this year. Both are waiting to see if their needed in the Gulf Coast as the Storm comes. Remember the area changed after Katrina and many Republicans got the property from those who couldn't afford to repair. Yes it the Government sold property for one dollar as the owners were turned away. The Government is building homes for new owners and we see boats docked for enjoyment. All those that lived in the area were kicked out with nothing. Now Kanya West has proof to his statement that Bush doesn't like Black people. McCain will do the same. We watched Americans who happen to be black beg for help even so dying on TV while the Government and the President watched and did nothing for 5 days. Now that Republicans have gotten the property the Government and President are willing to step in before the Storm and use tax dollars to make sure things go well. Yes make sure those blacks pay their taxes but don't bother to help them when they need it just take what ever they have earned or shoot them in the back.

what the hell is going on, all the democrats speaking seem to be in monotone, they dont seem to me to be really into what they r doing anymore.....something is weird?

this entire deal sucks

(Repeat of my post right after the Event)

I Watched the GREAT Scene from Denver in a hotel lounge here in Chiang Mai. The place was packed with Germans, Brits, Aussies, Americans, Indians (dot) and an assortment of others. The place just went crazy, I fortunately live two blocks away and could escape the crowd right after.

USA … The World is Watching and Hoping for the same change you are.
I couldn’t believe the response of so many people not from the USA, but from all over the World.

What the heck can they say at the RNC? They can't say they support Bush. They can't say they oppose Bush. All they can say is

"The surge is working"
"The surge rules"
"Patriotism rules"
"American Americans are great Americans"
"Obama sucks"
"Obama sucks"
"A couple of economic numbers that don't matter to normal people were sorta good, if you pick the time window carefully enough"

That doesn't fill a lot of time.

No. 44 @ 5:

The Democrats skipped the head this time and went straight for the heart, producing a convention that will be inspiring people for weeks and months to come. Great job, Democrats!

I expect to hear a lot about God from Republicans. And Israel. And brave soldiers. And a particular POW. It's going to be very boring.

"Mission Accomplished" 5 Years Later
Since Bush Declared End To Major Combat Operations In Iraq, Nearly 4,000 U.S. Troops Have Died

a good topic for the Repugs to debate in front of the worlds cameras in Minneapolis.

and of course Afghanistan the forgotten war/occupation, 'Katrina' New Orleans the forgotten people 50% who still are displaced with their NOLA homes still wrecked or missing, oil company profits, stock market tanking, weak dollar.

♠♠...Bangkok Bob...♠♠ @ 109:

Has anyone seen LA Confidential since he flipped over to the our side after the speech?

'our' or 'other' !?

Sounds like Romney is out as veep. They are talking about it perhaps being Sarah Palin of Alaska. If it is her, talk about pandering to women.

They are also saying Pawlenty is out.

Please let it be Lieberman!

pissed off patricia @ 116:

Please let it be Lieberman!

which means Lieberman+Hagee as VP nominee, let the fun begin :)

I swear, I have a buzz left over from Obama's speech. Can't remember when I felt this good about the political world and life in general.

The one moment in the GOP convention that I'm waiting for is the last night, after Mccain's acceptance speech where the crowd always goes into their "Four more years! Four more years!" chant. It'll be interesting to see if they have the kahunas to do it this year. Of course, if they don't, that sends a message loud and clear of what they think about their own product.

When the oldest celebrity in the world calls the "biggest celebrity in the world" not ready to lead, that lady announcer just makes my skin crawl in those McSame attack ads on Obama and his so-called celebrity status.

Gotta love 'em.

great ad!

over on the mccain blogs, there is frequent use of the acronym BOHICA (bend over here it comes again) followed by "McCain '08!" by supporters. so, they are essentially equating a mccain presidency with sodomy, which is odd, because that is what most of us would equate it to as well.

McCain adviser on issue of health insurance:
But the numbers are misleading, said John Goodman, president of the National Center for Policy Analysis, a right-leaning Dallas-based think tank. Mr. Goodman, who helped craft Sen. John McCain's health care policy, said anyone with access to an emergency room effectively has insurance, albeit the government acts as the payer of last resort. (Hospital emergency rooms by law cannot turn away a patient in need of immediate care.)
"So I have a solution. And it will cost not one thin dime," Mr. Goodman said. "The next president of the United States should sign an executive order requiring the Census Bureau to cease and desist from describing any American – even illegal aliens – as uninsured. Instead, the bureau should categorize people according to the likely source of payment should they need care.
"So, there you have it. Voila! Problem solved."
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/bus/stories/DN-Uninsured_27b...

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/McCain_ad_questioned_as_word_HANG_0828.html

Sarah Palin is no Hillary Clinton

Isn't she under investigation in Alaska?

dennis @ 131:

pissed off patricia @ 115:

Sounds like Romney is out as veep. They are talking about it perhaps being Sarah Palin of Alaska. If it is her, talk about pandering to women.

He'd also be pandering to guys like me who thinks she's tough as nails and as hot a woman politician as there is, patricia. He'd also be pandering to voters who like executive experience, and voters who like their candidates to have respect for the unborn, or in the case of Obama's Born Alive Infants Protection Act vote, respect for the born, too.

She has a lot going for her in too many respects for it to be called pandering.

Still hoping to get "Property of the State" stamped on all uteruses, huh, lil' d?

This is a gimmick pick, pure and simple. It's like McCain is trying to throw it away, even though he knows he can't lose.

Meant to say 'opponent of abortion rights'.

dennis @ 139:

Rusty Shackleford @ 138:

dennis @ 131:

pissed off patricia @ 115:

He'd also be pandering to guys like me who thinks she's tough as nails and as hot a woman politician as there is, patricia. He'd also be pandering to voters who like executive experience, and voters who like their candidates to have respect for the unborn, or in the case of Obama's Born Alive Infants Protection Act vote, respect for the born, too.

She has a lot going for her in too many respects for it to be called pandering.

Still hoping to get "Property of the State" stamped on all uteruses, huh, lil' d?

This is a gimmick pick, pure and simple. It's like McCain is trying to throw it away, even though he knows he can't lose.

That vote is gonna be problematic for him, Rusty. I'm sure McCain saw an opening big enough to drive a truck through with Obama's horribly weak 'above my grade' reply to Rick Warren at the Saddleback Conference. She had her baby knowing he had Down's Syndrome, so she walks the walk, too, even though I don't think she's been an outspoken proponent of abortion rights.

Plus, she is Aitch-Oh-double T with 3 exclamation points, Russ. I don't know to what extent, but the youth vote will tilt back R's way with this pick. Kids are still very visual, at least the guys.

Not a gimmick. Not at all. Very smart and very sound pick.

McCain may have stolen Change, but you still have Hope.

I've already told ya who's gonna win, lil' d, and why. Why are you still fretting over all this? Why the fear?

But I'll grant you that Palin is attractive. Cindy better watch her back. They say a leopard never changes his spots. Good thing she insisted on that pre-nup, huh?

As for the "infanticide" vote, let us know when that gets traction with the general public. I don't think it's even reached Ayres-level awareness yet. And nobody outside the Hannity fanboy choir is paying any attention to that.

dennis @ 143:

Rusty Shackleford @ 142:

I've already told ya who's gonna win, lil' d, and why. Why are you still fretting over all this? Why the fear?

But I'll grant you that Palin is attractive. Cindy better watch her back. They say a leopard never changes his spots. Good thing she insisted on that pre-nup, huh?

As for the "infanticide" vote, let us know when that gets traction with the general public. I don't think it's even reached Ayres-level awareness yet. And nobody outside the Hannity fanboy choir is paying any attention to that.

Russ- I think Obama still wins easily, this just makes it interesting. Why do you mock me with what will be important. You did it with the John Edwards.National Enquirer stuff. I told you, I'm not big on abortion rights, but a lot of people are, and the ones who are, are excited by this pick... Evangelicals go bonkers for this pick.

And just take a gander at some of these scorned Hillary supporters, Rust. Hell hath no fury...

I know you're not big on abortion rights, lil' d. You're always careful to point out that you personally aren't concerned with whatever the subject is of your attempted smear, but that you know many who are. That's good trolling strategy. Golf clap.

But I'm glad that Gov. Palin is going to bring the "family values" discussion into the forefront in this race. I'm sure that's a discussion that Sen. Obama would love to engage Sen. McCain on. For that I applaud his pick.