Jonathan Lemire told the Morning Joe panel that Trump and his people are worried about Jack Smith -- because he is the honey badger, and he don't give a sh*t!

"There is real concern, this is something the former president and his inner circle have been worried about for a while, is, indeed, he is facing someone now in Jack Smith who they simply don't know, they feel like they can't intimidate. He is someone who seems immune to what their typical playbook is, which is the smokescreen and the attacks, the assertions of bias. To this point, that hasn't worked."

The honey badger don't care!

Lemire also mentioned the rumors that Jack Smith has another grand jury in New Jersey.

"We see the New Jersey thing, I also heard last night from a few people in the Trump world saying, we're not sure how real that is, but they also can't rule it out. They didn't expect all that's happened to this point. We know that it's not just New York, which they feel fine about. They're deeply concerned about the Mar-a-Lago documents, and they're worried still about Georgia," he said.

Joe Scarborough said to former federal prosecutor Chuck Rosenberg that the Trump people have a lot ot worry about.

"There are a lot of times prosecutors have to really stretch to prove their cases. A lot of circumstantial evidence sometimes. It's not quite as strong as they'd like. But you look at that Georgia case, they've got the tape recordings. You look at the Mar-a-Lago case. They've got incredible physical evidence. They've got him saying things, again, on audio tape that close him in. They've got him saying things in speeches and on Sean Hannity's show that are admissions of guilt. Again, the picture has so much hard evidence there, really problematic for this guy," he said.

"Well, I think that's right. You know, when you look at the Mar-a-Lago case, you actually have a lot to look at. We have an indictment. When you write an indictment, and I've written many of them as a federal prosecutor, Joe, you make sure that you can prove every word, every sentence, every paragraph, assuming that's what the prosecutors did here," Rosenberg said.

"I assume they did because they're really good at their jobs. That's going to be a very tough case for Mr. Trump. and, as you point out, there are a bunch of different trains on a bunch of parallel tracks, in New York, Georgia, and perhaps elsewhere. I would also like to underscore something else you said. These federal prosecutors, Jack Smith and his team, are an enormously talented and experienced group of prosecutors.

"First, they're not going to be intimidated by Mr. Trump or anyone else. Second, they are not trying their case in the public atmosphere. It is going to be in a courtroom, in a federal court in Florida. Third, they're really good at what they do. You know, I won a lot of cases as a prosecutor, and I was remarkably mediocre. What makes the difference is that you have the facts and the law. When you have the facts and the law, you don't have to be a gifted advocate. You just have to be competent. You have to be able to stand up in court and introduce your evidence."