December 16, 2011 09:30 PM
Open Thread
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SOPA has NOT been postponed to 2012! The Committee members who support SOPA quietly changed the hearing date to the 21st, trying to trick the American people into thinking it was over for the year. This is dirty politics and should be illegal. Fight back. Let them know this is not over.
U.S. citizens are NOT exempt from indefinite detention in the NDAA
Ron Paul and Joe Rogan are on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno - together. Friday, Dec. 16, 2011 - Joe will endorse Paul in front of his 540,000+ Twitter subscribers.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Thanks for the heads up.
Smoke a doober or download a song and yer off to Sing Sing. Crash the world economy and get a bonus and a raise. I see how the rules work.
far left loon >.<
We - the US govt, that is - routinely admonish other nations for disappearing detainees.
And now our government officially claims for itself the right to disappear anyone from anywhere.
Absolutely breathtaking.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
and Protesters = Terrorists in 3....2....1 ...
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U.S. Federal Judge Rules Iran, Hezbollah Also Responsible for 9/11
http://youtu.be/uGHdePe4GZM
More info.
This is why talking about 9/11, anthrax, Bin Laden, etc. is still important even 10 years after the worst attack on our country!!
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
bullshit.
I'm sure "Iran" made the head of the airport air traffic controllers destroy all the taped conversations between the "hijackers" and the control towers:
"I cut all the tapes into tiny pieces and placed them in various trash cans."
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Havent heard the term "Saudi" uttered in this ...funny ... ?
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They own 7% of America (whatever that means exactly). I saw it on 60 Minutes a long time ago. That's why the hands holding n stuff.
far left loon >.<
We're all going to be guilty of something, sooner or later. All of us. (When all you're neighbours are gone it's your turn.)
far left loon >.<
joke.
(reply to Geronimo's post)
http://youtu.be/0YOh-rpvjYg
Democrats, you bastards. you couldn't even stick to increasing taxes a tiny tiny bit on the richest forkers in the nation to extend tax payroll tax cuts and employment insurance for the working american people - the same American people you say you represent!
Whatever the reich wing is demanding - DON'T DO IT! Just don't bloody do it! no more! Enough is enough. This is our country, not the republicons' country. you say you are democrats - do what is best for the American people, not what's best for the lobbyists and plutocrats.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/12/16/3...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Yeah, well, that's how they roll. No surprise here.
far left loon >.<
This rolling over is a new thing. How do you think we got the things the reich wing is now taking away? We got it through Democrats. Maybe the missing element is public awareness, caring, and involvement - maybe the Occupy movement will change that.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Dems of yore and Dems of today??
PS Didn't they cave on that a few days ago? I saw it on HuffPo but not here.
far left loon >.<
Dems of about 15 years yore. I think i heard about it today on the Ed show MSNBC.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
RTAmerica talks with Kevin Zeese:
Bradley Manning: A symbol for lack of government transparency
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7PtrlhbpSg
Keith Olbermann talks with Daniel Ellsberg
"The Way Bradley Manning Has Been Treated Is Shameful & Amounted To Torture"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yV9V9mNugRg
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
"aiding the enemy" .... I'm thinking that in any court of law the 'enemy' would have to be identified .... who exactly is the 'enemy',,,. exactly...?
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Bradley Manning - PFC Bradley Manning revealed footage of US pilots killing innocent civilians in Baghdad like mobsters, and laughing bout it... so now they want to hang Bradley Manning out to dry - just like mobsters do... What a sick bunch.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Collateral Murder - Wikileaks - Iraq
The video that Americans will never see .... "but,but,but .... why do they hate us ... ? "
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Ron Paul on Manning and Assange -2010
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Sometimes I get the impression that President Paul would charge Bush/Cheney et al with war crimes.
Don't forget that Paul would face all the same obstructions to liberty from the thuglicans, some dems, MIC, CIA, FBI, and the plutocrats that Obama does.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Stacy and Max eat some MF-Global Re-Hypothecake .... this first segment is a worth watching ..
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amazing .. wish I could use your house as collateral .. for as many transactions as I want!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothecation
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
OK I'll use yours ... a couple of times .... sweet how that works for us rich folks ;-)
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Video not working for me, but from your comments I can figure out what's going on. (Use one house to as collateral for tons of transactions? Am I close?)
far left loon >.<
and then they've evidently found ways to take it to yet another level - hyperhypothecation.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
nothing to do with houses ... thats that fallacy of the economic collapse ...this was about HUGE banks leveraging their debt ... and ripping off borrowers to cover their shitty fail bets ...
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but you're right - once the hypothecation became rehypothecation and then hyperhypothecation of all the collateral the banks could scrape up (not just houses) including customer's deposits in the institutions, then we're dealing with massive fraud and destabilization of the entire financial system ..
if there ever was a house of cards ..
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
on the subject of re-hypothecation!? is chilling. Especially when Max declares that Jon Corzine was told by Jamie Dimon to turn over billions of dollars or he'd be "swimming with the fishes":
http://www.ajpfiles.com/December2011/Alex.Jon...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
this week was the first I've heard of this little gem ... wow they can wrap the crudest, base, extortion in some ridiculous terminology to try to make it sound legitimate .... fuckers.
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the Gestapo to come toss my motel room. I just got my paycheck and got my dog back after coughing up $700 boarding bill, enjoying a little time playing when I get the "cop knock." Two City of Orange cops in the full gear pull me out of the room and spend 20 min tossing the place looking for dope because they can, despite me being clean for about 6 mos. Fingerprinted me, asked me for my phone#, Social Security #, work address, D/L #, but never asked to see photo ID.
I felt so much more secure after this little encounter, of course. I'm sure the taxpayers got their money's worth too...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Holy shit ...
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in this country. I signed on the dotted line, agreeing to the terms, so I've got to expect it. But you never really get used to it. As time goes on, it just keeps getting sillier, but of course, you can't laugh at or with them-- this is their job, and they really think they're serving society-- just like arresting cops at Occupy sites. Meanwhile, of course, the real criminals go unpunished.
Gotta figure it's a little better, all-in-all, north of the border?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
... its better, but the big chill is heading here as well ...hang in there FF ... if you can ever make it up here, it is way better in many ways.
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When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Why don't you come to Venice/the Westside and get into some assisted living kinda situation where the cops won't be in your face??
You gotta get out from behind the Orange curtain!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Most (all?) those places won't make accommodations for pets. Actually had guys at one house (where NA meetings were held) in Buena Park tell me "If you just get rid of your dog and cut your hair, you too could live here!" I told the guy to go fuck himself and was banned from returning to meetings. They were such a friendly lot, like Xtians, as long as you did everything to be just like them...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Jesus had long hair. Too bad ya didn't think of it then.
far left loon >.<
Guess it's better than being called Jane or Juanita...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Satan would say.
Believe me I understand that.
My kids and I would do anything for our furry/feathery/scaly friends.
I wish you could find a better living arrangement. Seriously. Where you and your dog are safe.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
to Calabasas, working off Agoura and Las Virgines. Surveying a bunch of oak trees on a site some developer wants to build on, the City wants to preserve, I guess. If you get up to the west Valley and want to meet for a cool one or got some event happening, send me a PM.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I went to your settings and it says you don't accept them??
Let me know how to send you one.
All I'm doin' Sunday and Monday is goin' to church and planting about 100 tulips hither and yon. Ha!!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
(And I've received a few, but it has been awhile since any have come thru).
Sitemonitor, can you check? Thanks.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Gestapo-- yup.
far left loon >.<
American Patriots: Here is the short list of Senators and Representatives that have NEVER thrown America under the bus via the USA PATRIOT Act, NDAA, and SOPA.
Will Hunting had it right 14 years ago
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Occupy 2.0: One Month After Raid, Protesters Look Beyond Zuccotti
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/16/occu...
far left loon >.<
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/16/anonymo...
Time for Invade DC. If you stand against SOPA, PIPA, NDAA, and the assult on our civil rights, then lets invade DC. Tea party, OWS, Communists, Libertarians, Progressives, Conservatives, doesn't matter. Time to set aside our petty differences and take the fight to these politicians in their home.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Can sock puppets join the fun?
(I could fly over -free- in someone's suitcase.)
far left loon >.<
Go to google and type in "do" and see what happens...
(it kinda freaked me out this morning and I don't drink)
far left loon >.<
Corporate...
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
???
far left loon >.<
good catch.
When I type in "Do" in the google hompage and don't press enter, the drop down menu goes into a full page of Dominick's store websites.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
went to "Done Deal Screenwriting Software" first
What did you get that freaked you out, Edwin?
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.
When I typed in "do" and then hit the space bar, the whole page spun around 360*. I thought I was on drugs or something (and sadly was not). It's "do a barrel roll." Not sure what it all means. link below
http://news.nationalpost.com/2011/11/04/do-a-...
far left loon >.<
When I did that, I got Don van Vliet (Captain Beefheart), but that was 'cause that was my last search that began with 'do'... :)
Clear Spot
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"The War You Don't See" and "Dorothy Parker."
Hmmmm.... curious indeed. Anyhow it was kind of fun to see google do an unexpected 360.
far left loon >.<
If you're stuck for a last-minute gift idea you might want to consider this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nws0tUODt-8&li...
far left loon >.<
how your votes will be counted by the electorial system. Don't let it happen.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/45692...
Ron Paul on Jay Leno: Michelle Bachmann hates Muslims and the only two things Santorum can talk about are Muslims.
http://ronpaulflix.com/2011/12/ron-paul-with-... [VIDEO]
Balls.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
http://www.occuthon.com/
Stream is good even if you've got little bandwidth like me. Good discussions going on.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Thanks for the reminder feat. I guess it starts in about an hour now, right?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Guess about 8 hrs in so far.
And if anyone gets a chance, check out Nicole Sandler's show at Radio or Not. Easy on the eyes and ears, but puts the brain in gear.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
The founder of a Russian newspaper that investigated government corruption has been shot dead in the North Caucasus region, in what an international watchdog called "a lethal blow to press freedom"
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Russian Newspaper Owner Who Investigated Corruption Shot Dead
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
It seems like every media outlet I know of is ignoring NDAA and SOPA and other important news that are important and changing our lives and society. Strange like that.
From Stolen Election to spurious acts of terrorism to the following legislation like the Patriot act to pre-emptive wars and torture to another Stolen election to more wars, police brutality and more draconian legislation like the NDAA and SOPA. Trends are not good when you look back a bit at the big picture. Historians will remember the infamous Reichstag Fire and the legislation that followed that. We need more courageous journalism outlets to cover these crimes and prevent further erosion of our society by being a strong fourth branch of government here in the U.S.A. the land of the free home of the Brave. Peace. Lots of Love.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
one homeowner says that his Christmas lights will cost him about $2,000 a month. A little too much.
http://youtu.be/7JrNujYrFig
I'd like to know who ordered the steel to be carted away the very next day - a criminal act under the circumstances. And incidentally - have they found that 2.3 Trillion of our dollars yet? rumsfeld? Are you still looking?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Go man!!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Believe it bro. Sometimes... Thanks.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Always so much to say, not enough time to say it, no?
At least 9/11 and Ron Paul didn't freak 'em out, and your call prompted some discussion of the "Dems good/'Thugs bad" point.
And as others here have said, start your own blog, bro. I don't always agree with everything you (or anyone, FTM) write, but I'd definitely subscribe if you write it.
Peace.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
hold time wasn't long at all. call in if you at all feel like it. It's worth it.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Obama Insisted on Indefinite Detentions of Citizens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tO2irR2Wj8&fe...!
Assange wins appeal. Bieber gives $100 k to elementary school. Congress wants to deregulate tv even further! Christian groups join Muslim groups in boycotting Lowe's. New beef recall. Shell Arctic drilling "conditionally" approved. VT frat shut down over rape survey. ADL calls out Alan West over Goebbels analogy. UMG now claiming it doesn't need takedown notices to remove videos. Bale is a good Christian when it comes to standing up for human rights in China. The commenters stupidly argued that Americans shouldn't intervene in the country's affairs, not realizing he's British. Not so slick Rick. I wonder if the Hitch could live with being an enabler for the type of pol he despised. Etta James terminally ill w/ chronic leukemia. Paterno was aware of inappropriate behavior from Sandusky as early as nine years ago! Via @timmaughan:
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In the 90s, the FBI tried to follow another bad tip on collusion with Saddam's regime, this time against Newt. EPA finalizes new emissions rules. Repugs no quiero Romney's xenophobe card. Perry gets a pension on top of his governor's salary.
$195.00? Dang.... too rich for my blood.
Don't think anything - and I mean anything - trumps this. Like George Carlin used to say, "Save the planet? The planet's doing just fine! WE'RE going away!"
The Durban Climate Talks Were a Disaster, Here's What We Do Next
http://www.alternet.org/environment/153458/th...
Education is what remains after one has forgotten what one has learned in school.
-Albert Einstein
Fuck both parties. They both support the corporations and banks over the people who voted them in. They both supported NDAA and SOPA.
Call me when a third AND a fourth materialize.
NOBODY 2012
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How do you stack up?
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