February 27, 2011 08:30 PM
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Who are they wearing? THE UNION LABEL.
Related: PoliticusUSA: Top 10 Ways to Get MSM to Attend Your U.S. Political Protest. (h/t Heather)
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Harry Reid (1995): "I think we should audit the Federal Reserve."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXOsZ7Ad7dM
Harry Reid in 1996 on the FEDERAL RESERVE: "We have to peel back this cloak that they've covered themselves with since 1913."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A3pqK5aASI
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Wouldn't it be amazing if Harry got fired up? Ready to go?
No more Mr. Peabody, Harry.
Go get 'em, Harry !. Give 'em hell !. Sock it to 'em Harry !. Knock their blocks off !
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Contact your legislators and ask them to co-sponsor and support:
House Bill H.R. 459 and Senate Bill S. 202!!! Let's get this job done!!
Call and Email.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
What's wrong with Mr. Peabody? Hmm?
;^)
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
It's his boy, Sherman. He could probably use a visit to the Mustang Ranch and Peabody wants to shut it down? Peabody's being such a dog.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
I guess i should have used 'Walter Mitty', but something about Harry and his glasses made me think of Dr. Peabody. But then again, Harry also looks a bit like Sherman, so i'm confused. Let's just say they all look somewhat alike and leave it at that....8(0)
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
some time ago. He probably said that when there wasn't a chance in hell of it happening. I wouldn't expect him to be a spokesperson or spearhead the movement on this.
Americans are now in far worse shape than the citizens of a nation without any news media at all.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Well, yes and no.
On the one hand, yes, the news media is absolutely terrible.
On the other, for the first time in this nation's history, the news media is not the only source of information. We don't have to rely on the newspapers or the TV talking heads anymore, we can get the information straight from the source, as it happens.
Well ya, thank god for the internet and the social networking that it facilitates.
It will take some doing to ween everyone off the corporate TV news though. In the mean time they will continue to masquerade as the fourth estate that they once were, and that makes them a powerful destructive force.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
. . through some guy's cell phone. And people around the world were able to do the same thing.
Wow.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
We live in interesting times, do we not? As shitty as things seem sometimes, occasionally I realize something like that, and it reminds me why I'm still an idealist.
Americans have plenty of news available, but citizens need to take an interest first, and then seek out the right news (which is NOT on teevee.) Also, people (everywhere) seem gullible to believe what they see on TV, like there's some kind of rule it must all be truthful. The teevee is an entertainment box, not a truth machine.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
Tell everyone you know about HR 459 and S 202. Ask them to support the bills and to contact their representative as well.
http://www.ronpaul.com/congress/legislation/a...
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
They really need to start the recall now.
And target a bunch of newly elected GOP Senators and Congressmen too! Let the bast**ds know that their lock-step approval of any vile nazi actions by the newest GOP goon in office, will also hold them accountable.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
media attention, tell them it would be a teapartgy event should be 1st instead of 10th.
Can you post a link to the 'ten ways to get media attention' ? I must have missed it.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
http://www.politicususa.com/en/top-10-media-p...
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
tea party now. Won' t it be a surprise when we show up?
Just remember, your all invited.
"No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master." - Hunter S. Thompson
Wisconsin protest crowd exceeds 70,000 with snow and freezing temperatures, yet the media largely ignores the story. Over the past two years the media has gone crazy over Tea Party rallies of a few thousand.
Even Paul Krugman agrees... Wisconsin protests being ignored by the TV media, much like the anti-war protests before the Iraq invasion in 2003.
Stunning: Madison Police Officer explains to recently elected Governor Walker who he works for!!
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
as did the drummers! I especially liked the way he kept addressing his remarks to "MR. Walker"'
instead of Governor.....very polite way to bring hm down a notch.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
CNN was busy wishing the Tea Party a Happy Birthday with a nostalgic remembering of some of their greatest hits, discussing the IRS, and talking about turtles.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Legalizing cannabis: High time for a sober discussion about marijuana - It is rare we publish an editorial on a hot topic and receive near universal praise. But that is what happened last week when we came out in support of Washington state legalizing cannabis.
Bill Hicks and many throughout history would approve :)
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Seattle's first cannabis farmers market attracts several hundred Sunday
Walking distance!
me-oww!
It's walking distance on the way there . . . . On the way back?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
The pup and I walk down and back often.
:D
me-oww!
it's affordable, as a prescription of course.
my docs won't give me a scrip, so I freestyle. news story on KING showed a normal amount of money changing hands.
me-oww!
Like the pup could work a lighter . . . .
He/she (definitely not "it") is only going to make sure you get back. good job, pup.
man, i miss southern oregon
Corruption favors the wealthy.
can't work a lighter but makes great brownies.
:~)
Corruption favors the wealthy.
grew some nice boo. I miss southern OR too.
And the market isn't there 24/7. I think it's a once a month thing. Pup doesn't need to know how to work a lighter. Only how to do the things a dog should do on a walk.
me-oww!
Mus....errr, Republican Brotherhood keeps depressing us as much as they keep trying to do, there will be a much higher demand. Hmmm, that might be a good thing.
You might like this amusing video. This guy reports his pot plant stolen, to the police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zY3E4OTnJbM
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
We had a guy here in West Seattle phone in a pot plant burglary. At the time, the cops weren't so mellow about it, and arrested the vic
me-oww!
A political documentary about an Inside Job won the Oscar for Best Documentary. That was pretty cool.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
disturbing movies I have ever seen. They also are the ones who did the one about the Iraq war,"No End in Sight". Inside Job has to be seen more than once to get the full effect...I think I'll buy the DVD.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
have a copy. Contact me through the upstairs button.
GNA .
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ron it says you have your contact option closed off on your C&L account??
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
I am in Eastern Canada, and I would be Proud to help sponsor slash host your next Progressive MediaPaloozaEvent ...but ... jeez ...its not on CNN or anything .... so like ... when is it (Justin Beebs might be there ...) is there a blackout ...
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
Teabagger asks: why do freeway construction jobs in california take so long? The DMV why is the service so shitty? The Post Office is losing money. The bagger blames the public sector unions.
I suppose with regards to the post office the teabagger is thinking about the inability of the p.o. to close offices because of previously negotiated union contracts, but this would ignore that the initial reason for the p.o. "losing" money has more to do with email and other form of communication that make traditional mail "obsolete".
Also, with the DMV and freeway construction jobs in california.
How should I debunk and/or what should be my rebuttal?
Are you trolling? Tough job for a lefty.
But why accept a teabagger's "facts"? Do California projects take longer than necessary? Are they being done by public sector union workers? Are private contractors doing the work and making more money with the delays - and maybe with non-union labor?
But moreover, this isn't a "are unions good or not" debate. The solution to problems with unions isn't getting rid of unions - it's addressing those problems. Is the teabagger willing to debate problems with the private sector on the same basis a he/she is with unions? Do problems in the private sector justify the conclusion that the private sector is bad and should be eliminated? Should problems with "management" be debated to determine if management is bad and should be eliminated? Of course not.
It's a faulty premise. A problem with something is a problem that should be addressed. The baby shouldn't be tossed out with the bath water.
Just some thoughts. Good luck.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
check my cred, if there is such a way.
I thought i might come off as a troll. But no...
I made the point to the bagger that he should not be angry with those who are wise enough to realize that they have mutual self interest and through that self interest they create unions and are able to bargain for better wages.
Also made the point that being union allows one to get paid for the work one does, to which he responded with the crap about freeways and dmv and post office, i suppose to "show" how these unionized places all have crappy labor and they don' t do the work they get payed for.
Your right, I shouldn't take what baggers say as facts.
(And yeah, you can check that by how long a poster has been here and other comments they've made. Just click on a commenter's "name").
I meant trolling on RedState or such. In other words, being the lone lefty in a crowd of righties. It's tough. It's not their arguments, those are simple, It's their volume - both in the amount of attackers and the constant use of allcaps. I've done it and still have some valid nom de guerres stashed here and there. I'm also pretty sure I've seen Alerta_Alerta giving them hell in there own space. But it's tough.
Sorry I put it so poorly. I've been doing a lot of that today, Oops.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
It was my mistake, I didn't observe the context of the question.
But, nah. It was a facebook bagger. I don't really go on any of those right wing toilets.
I don't think people of the left are physically, emotionally, or intellectually capable of being trolls. Mainly because being a troll requires one to suspend one's grasp on reality. Lefties have an annoying habit of needing to bust through the cognitive dissonance of reichwing rags, rendering their awesome logical prowess useless!
It was my fault for not reading twice or thrice.
complicated issue to deal with. Sometimes you drive by a site and see 1/2 dozen guys standing there waiting for 1 guy to complete a job but they can't do anything until that person is done. Then you have an operator that can proceed and a truckdriver who can back up and load or unload. These guys have the system down to where most of them are pretty busy most of the time. If you go into a supermarket or Home Depot you will see some of the same type of behaviour. Most likely you will even see it in a Wal-Mart but I won't because I refuse to go into a Wal-Mart.
the post office. I even renewed my passport (just in case I need to flee) and did it right in the office, they took the photo, did the mailing. There can't be another service in the U.S. you can get so much for so little.
DMV's are horrible, but much better if you take the time to make an appointment.
As for road construction, you got me. They've been working on this two mile stretch of the 71 for at least the past 6 years and it looks like they've got at least another two to go. Seriously, I think they're using sporks.
The "poor service at the DMV" or "how long it takes for CalTrans to fix stuff" they are all based on qualitative arguments, and those are never meant to be won. So the easiest way to tackle these sort of arguments is to request the usual teabagger to provide actual statistics with DATA to back up their assertions. This is, the only way to conduct a proper discussion in these matters is under quantitative grounds, not qualitative.
E.g. can they provide a study in which private contractors have been shown to finish large scale projects, like the ones tackled by CalTrans, offering better quality, speed, cost, etc? Also Freeway construction jobs are a fairly complex endeavor in terms of the blame game, since they involve large number of private contractors and vendors. Not just CalTrans personnel.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
if not all of the construction is bid out to "Private" contracters.. The only things that the government is involved in is the planning and supervision. They don't own equipment that can perform the job. Tere is no government construction job that isn't done by private industry.
Writes Firedoglake's David Dayen: "I took some video of two of the protesters who will refuse to leave. Here’s Alex Hanna, a teaching assistant and co-President of the TAA, one of the leaders of the protests:"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_e...
Dayen also taped Rabbi Renee Bauer, of the Interfaith Coalition for Worker Justice of South Central Wisconsin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_e...
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Study Study the Bank of North Dakota...
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2010/02/...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/16/bank...
Charles Ferguson's Inside Job won best documentary. His speech is worth linking to as well. Great dude.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
about the post office-a 44 cent stamp is a bargain. geronimo, i watched a bill hicks dvd tonight-what a guy!
and, for anyone interested, keith is on foknewschannel.com.
From the looks of it they started on the 25th? Well, can't get too much of Keith.
Governors speak out against state cuts. Hollywood rallies for unions. Ruffalo hopes to ruffle the frackers with blue pin. Academy doesn't consider companies which try to shut down documentary to be a gas. Via @ebertchicago, I think, Wolfoputz blames the families of the Lockerbie victims and Obama for our lax scrutiny of Gadaffi. To be "fair", he also mentions Shrub. And either @ebertchicago or @tomtomorrow noted that Newt is lying about Obama's executive role in regards to DOMA. How we're all fucked by corporatism. [Link might take a while to reload.]
Also, my ever- weekly optimisic weekly Horoscope had this to say:
Last Los Angeles picture show.
Corporatism R Us ....8(0)
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
here in eastern Wa. are saying that there were hundreds of people at the protest that were allowed to stay at the Capital in Wisconsin. Yeah 10s of hundreds. Our local news is as bad as the Mus....err republican brotherhood news.
Almost as bad as NBC Evening's "staunch supporters from both sides" lie. It's a lie. They also only spent 30 seconds on the story, then went straight to a baseball obituary.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Jews are devils, but Gadhafi's my homie! Huckabee and Christie defend Michelle's pro-thin kids program. No shit. The irony of that comment is Ruppert said the same thing. Excerpt from Inside Job director's non-acceptance speech. Moore also uploaded a clip from an earlier Winsconsin protest. More stories in unethical human experimentation in America.
It's the Inequality, Stupid
http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/incom...
At least the server seems to be down when I try to access it.
LongTomH
just a guess.
me-oww!
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