May 11, 2009 08:30 PM
Open Thread
Another excellent offering from The Full Ginsburg.
BTW I love the term "full Ginsburg," which means appearing on all five Sunday News programs on one day, named after William H. Ginsburg...Monica Lewinsky's lawyer. Cool trivia.
Open thread below.





Bluegal. You matched them up perfectly.
I didn't do that. The Full Ginsburg did and yeah, they're very talented.
Rushycontin: "He (Cheney) has the money, he's not doing it for money" http://jed-lewison.dailykos.com/
Rushycontin's right. Cheney lied America into war killing 4500 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's in the process so he could make millions steering no bid goverment "welfare" contracts to Halliburton http://www.rawstory.com/news/2005/Cheneys_sto...
Prosecute the the combat dodging war criminal and war profiteer chickenshit coward already.
Pardon my pun.
Sikes is right!
She did a great routine and rattled the repubs at the same time. I love her!
was the prison in Guantamano built? It seems like it was built before 9/11 happened. Can someone help meet connect some dots here?
it was just a military brig with no national security security purpose. they had to expand it at least fourfold after 9/11 because they did not want to commit torture- the war crime - in the contiguous United States. That would seal the deal as far as criminality. As something "offshore", they hoped it could be put into some legal limbo. the problem is it's still US property, so others were renditioned to the other countries mentioned: egypt, afghanistan, Iraq, at least one baltic country, turkey and others in the 168-country US empire.
Some stuff you can't make up!
the base was leased from Cuba. As far as I know the lease was up long ago, the US refused to move and we still pay a symbolic "rent" every year, the check is something ridiculous like a couple of hundred bucks for the whole place per year. The Cuban government politely refuses to cash each of those checks.
In other words, we're conducting torture on a base which we are illegally occupying on Cuban soil. Which makes the whole Cuban Missile Crisis even the more hypocritical when you think about it...
Yes, it is Cuban territory, but it's leased to the US as long as the US wants to lease it, per the 1903 Cuban-American Treaty. It's like the old British lease on Hong Kong: the treaty is still valid even if the governments change. The current Cuban government doesn't think so, but they'd have a tough time getting the treaty overturned in any sort of international court. A bit on that here.
Now you'd be right if you said that the original treaty was signed under a bit of duress by Cuba, since it was a puppet government set up by the US that signed the treaty. But I don't think we're going to see the US government give it up anytime soon, as long as naval doctrine is still based on the principles of Alfred Thayer Mahan.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
From the 1970s onwards, the Guantánamo Bay Naval Base was used to house Cuban and Haitian refugees intercepted on the high seas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_d...
And when you peel back the history of the Iraq War Profiteering CRIME you find the planning started way back in 1991, right after the original "Gulf War" brought to us by Poppie Bush and Darth (Sect of Defense) Cheney.
A LOT of advance planning went into this heist.
Of course war profiteering has been a Bush Family specialty since World War One, long before this particular Act of International Piracy, so they've got the whole operation down to an art.
Still, you've got to hand it to them, this was one slick job.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
have been planning the illegal takeover of the government since before Reagan, even though Reagan was also involved more than most know.
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/050909b.html
At Common Dreams:
Cheney Learned Iran-Contra Lessons
What's real interesting is that this time Cheney is out in front saying the whole torture regime was approved not only by him but by GW too. Not throwing any more "little guys" under the bus - that is, any more than they have already!
Cheney Confirms Bush Knew Everything!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
SMEDLEY BUTLER
and
White House Coup: Smedley Butler and Prescott Bush
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common sense matters as much as truth
I wonder what mischief they're up to now.
Well they've still got a War on in Afghanistan, and in Iraq for that matter. Plus the usual profits from the War On Drugs - and their investments in the Drug Trade itself. Gun sales are up in the US, and booming (!!) in Mexico. The swine flu is a real boon for their investments in pharmaceuticals. And then there's the recent "bailouts" (cough, snicker) of the financial industry.
Ah .. but you mean what *new* mischief are they up to.
Guess we'll just have to wait and see!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
There's no stopping those creeps!
Think 1932, when a similiar coup de tat was tried by Prescott Bush, oven-maker for Hitler, who tried to corrupt Gen. Smedly Butler who turned them in. Again, no prosecutions, just swept under the rug. That, no prosecution thingie is also an MO of this generational MAFIA.
you done dont it again.
Yo, Ron, whazza heeeezie?
Some stuff you can't make up!
HAWKS WIN! HAWKS WIN! HAWKS WIN!
Yes, I have sour grapes.
Now, after the Wings beat the Ducks tomorrow night, I won't risk having to stay up until 1:30am or beyond for the rest of the Wings' Cup run!
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Here Come the Hawks!
Corruption favors the wealthy.
7-5?!?!
Don't expect 7 goals from the Hawks in the entire series against Ozzie, Lidstrom, Stuart and the rest of the boys from
West SwedenThe D.Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
But my Hawks are in the Conference finals - WooHoo!
I've been Jonesin' for hockey since Cheli went to the Wings; this is so great.
Yeah, the Champs are tough, but I think they were tougher when they
were the Sovietsplayed in the '90's.Go Hawks!
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Seriously, as great as Bowman's Wings were, this team is very balanced offensively and plays great defense. This time last year I was thinking that these Wings were a lot like Bowman's Canadiens teams in the '70's, and I'm thinking even more so now.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
But your Wings still have to win for the right to play my Blackhawks.
Good luck!
Corruption favors the wealthy.
They've got Hiller's number now.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Rub it in, fiver!
I assumed you root for the Flames.
Or were you just rooting for the remaining Canadian team?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
after the Flames' demise. I really don't care anymore.
...over Vancouver? :D
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
whatever ...
Some things last forever!
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
I met Lanny once. He is truly a gentleman and all-around great guy.
Flames fans will never forget him!
The Canucks were beaten by the better team, no doubt about it. Once again the cheer goes out: "Just wait 'till next year!"
*sigh"
:>)
And if you start rooting for the Hawks now, and they win The Cup, that means the Flames came in second.
Go for it. Hop on the bandwagon; it's fun.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
How did the Canes do?
They lead the series 3-2.
The Caps won in Pittsburgh tonight, so that series is knotted at 3-3.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Not Caps, Canes. Carolina,
n/t
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
But lead the series 3-2.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
I'm still recovering from the loss of my beloved team. Go easy on me.
... but not tonight.
:)
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Na na na na, na na na na, Vancouver goodbye.
AUSTIN, TX – Texas has seceded from the union. Led by Governor Rick Perry, Texans and frustrated Conservatives are clamoring to Texas to start a new country.
Texas’ state congress held an emergency session on Thursday, and in a 180-1 vote decided to secede from the union.
Originally the Texas Senate opposed the actions of the State Congress, until the Congressmen asked if they would like to “step outside.” After a brief scuffle behind the Capitol building, the Senate agreed and ratified the secession.
The new Republic of Texas is actively attracting those who are unhappy with the current US government. Republicans who attended “Tea Party” protests earlier this week are expected to emigrate in droves. Grief counselors had to be brought in to many of the protests as hundreds of Republicans realized they are now the minority. Commercials on Fox News are advertising the new republic as “a Right-minded, God-fearing, *ss-kicking place to live.” The Michigan Militia has offered to act as interim border patrol for the new state.
Texas was a republic from 1836, when it declared independence from Mexico, to 1845, when it was annexed as a U.S. state. Kept in the state’s constitution was a provision allowing Texas the right to secede, which has to this point been purely ceremonial.
Governor Rick Perry made the announcement at a press conference Thursday afternoon. Wearing a navy blue suit and carrying a Winchester rifle, Governor Perry announced that Texas would be its own autonomous republic. The downtown Austin crowd responded with mostly polite applause and confused stares. The same speech delivered in Houston later that day was met with thunderous applause and gunshots into the air.
The first orders of business addressed by the Republic of Texas were to set up a holiday on May 12th where effigies of Gen. Santa Anna will be burned publicly, and to require all state business to be done wearing ‘coonskin caps.
http://weeklyworldnews.com/politics/7674/texa...
I almost choked on my drink 'cause I fell for that for a couple seconds! :P
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Texas is and always will be a whole 'nother country. And here in the Northeast it's becoming a freakin' rain forest bog.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Jet stream's been dragging cold arctic air down the Mississippi Valley for the last coupla months, then picking up Gulf moisture and running it up the backside of the Appalachians into the NorthEast.
And it's chilly here in the Blue Ridge. I've got a fire in the wood stove tonight.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
is putting more moisture into the atmosphere causing weird weather patterns all over.
I just went through seven months of unending cold. The tree leaves here still haven't opened. It's May, and it just snowed a couple of weeks ago, but already there are mosquitoes!
It is insane!
It's all YOUR cold air that's been bringing the rain and chilly temps down here!
Had snow a coupla (3?) weeks ago too. Started with a clear sunny sky. Snow just started lightly at first, then within less than an hour turned into a blizzard! Nothing stuck cuz the ground was too warm.
And last week 5 inches of hail fell just a few miles north of me!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYSYipouABI
When I lived in Minnesota, yes, our worst weather came from Canada. hahaha I like Canada. My ancestors were from Montreal-area.
Montreal is a beautiful city.
Bot TOO bloody cold all winter (which is too bloody long). It is pretty though.
Korea is getting warmer. The number of winter days keeps shortening every year. It may sound nice, but ultimately is NOT good. Very dramatic here.
far left loon >.<
Canada secretly controls the world's weather, but don't tell anyone (it's secret.)
far left loon >.<
...than we've had it in Michigan. It's been pretty nice for a few weeks now. High temps ranging from the mid 50's to mid '70's, lows in the upper 30's to mid '40's.
We were on the way to having a bone dry April, but it started coming down in the last week of the month and didn't stop for about 10 days.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
And this May is shaping up to possibly be similar.
The first week of May usually is the absolute tail end of the rain until October/November, and then by the end of the month our highs are usually in the 90's.
Last year, and this year, we've started the month already in the 90's. And if this year continues to be like last, we will have a nice rain at the end of the month! :S
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
The U.S. blames militants for white phosphorous in Afghanistan. And yet it shoots down its messenger by firing one of the generals there. Speaking of failed wars, even an army can't stop Mexican druglords. This comment was attributed to the SLA, but could easily be used to describe neo-cons:
Antidepressants are generally a waste of time and money. Millions of American children under five are hungry. Bullying's bad, mmkay? France hates students against the privatization of higher education. Footloose ends up being a reality for an Ohio Christian school. Ken Salazar hates polar bears. Pelosi stonewalls on Torturegate. Which door will the Senate pick for health care? A college graduate gets murdered with the help of the Second Amendment. A soldier engages in unfriendly fire in Baghdad. Iran's not so bad after all.
rule, then.
Celexa has been a godsend for me. But then, Celexa doesn't seem to immediately remove depression, but enables you think about your situation more clearly so that you can do something about your situation. Which is what I really, really needed. I spent years on three other anti-depressants, and none had that effect, with those I just seemed to get worse...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
............also a life-saver for me. Whose research is this??? Without it, I won't be here.
A 7 year old little boy in Texas died after he, his father, his five year old sister, and a family friend were shot by a couple who believed they were trespassing.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
piece of shit unkept house, with all those cheap ass WallMart made in china possessions inside, to be worth more than the lives of two kids and their father.
... that she just found out about this ?!?
And why was impeachment "off the table"?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
... it is one hell of a drug...
Kneepads Nancy is pretty enthralled with her 'position'. She's only third in line to rule the country if anything, god forbid, should happen to the sitting president. Call her a PUKIE, 'cause that is what she is.
they show her "classified material", then she's legally bound to keep the secrecy. the media will only give you enough to incriminate nancy botoxy, but they don't reveal the part of the memo that says that none of this shit can be proven.
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common sense matters as much as truth
seeing the governor in this video reminded me of several of the challenges he has in california. there's talk of releasing inmates from prison. NOT only is there budget pressures the prisons are dangerously
OVER crowded causing UNconstitutional conditions. releasing prisoners is controversial at best.
approximatley 15-20% of the california prison population are illegal noncitizens. the california prison
population is about 160,000. that's a costly expense for the state and federal government.
Arnie is blackmailing the voters and I just filled out my ballot and votered against everything he wanted. It's time to RECALL the Terminator. It's one thing to ask but another to threaten. Everytime Arnie puts his foot in his mouth he uses the excuse he doesn't speak or understand English very well. But he knew enough to work with Enron to steal the Calfornia citizens money with his friend Ken Lay.
Yesterday I was at my local Wal-Mart buying a large bag of Purina dog chow for my loyal pet, Biscuit, the Wonder Dog and was in the checkout line when woman behind me asked if I had a dog.
What did she think I had, an elephant? So since I'm retired and have little to do, on impulse I told her that no, I didn't have a dog, I was starting the Purina Diet again. I added that I probably shouldn't, because I ended up in the hospital last time, but that I'd lost 50 pounds before I awakened in an intensive care ward with tubes coming out of most of my orifices and IVs in both arms.
I told her that it was essentially a perfect diet and that the way that it works is to load your pants pockets with Purina nuggets and simply eat one or two every time you feel hungry. The food is nutritionally complete so it works well and I was going to try it again. (I have to mention here that practically everyone in line was now enthralled with my story.) Horrified, she asked if I ended up in intensive care because the dog food poisoned me. I told her no, I stepped off a curb to sniff an Irish Setter's ass and a car hit us both.
I thought the guy behind her was going to have a heart attack he was laughing so hard. Wal-Mart won't let me shop there anymore.
Better watch what you ask retired people. They have all the time in the world to think of crazy things to say.
Some stuff you can't make up!
roflmao!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
You are one funny dude, CIP!
:)
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Unfortunately in this economic climate, that is a valid question as there are people surviving on that.
BTW, CointelPro... you are not only f*cking funny, but I wish I could send you some nice brewskis your way as a token of appreciation of your sense of humor and wit!
Chapeau!
Price-less. You should have submitted it as an ONION story! Love it!
Funny stuff. Isn't it nice to get and use humour!!!
far left loon >.<
I ended up voting for the stuff which didn't directly screw the children and the mentally invalid. I hate his shell-games, but at least he'll be out of office in a year. Until then, though, I got to bite the bullet and hope that the state doesn't encounter another crisis. Anyway, I'm hoping if those don't pass, that he'll resign, because he knows he's had it with the voters.
gna :)
myself. Jeremy, my chihuahua, has been a little bundle of excess energy this evening, so it might be difficult, lol.
GNA! :)
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Sleep tight.
Good Night All ;)
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
He sounds like a real handful!
May 11: During an interview, former Vice President Dick Cheney called for further declassification of CIA documents and may have implicated former President George Bush for his part in ordering the torture of detainees. Constitutional law Prof. Jonathan Turley discusses.
Some stuff you can't make up!
the bs from washington gets more bazar every day, so obamas touting flucking chump change in saveings with chump change saveings cutting programs in the us, billions wasted in useless wars that could be ended but wont be because the war profiteers want them to keep going on, and talk about illusions , where are the new jobs comeing from that obama wants you to be retrained for after you lose your job? thier not out there, aint going to be either! we can not create jobs here because china and india have been given all our manufactureing base, and the corporations cant outsource them fast enough, but they are working on it, if they ever run out of cheap labor to produce thier products with thiers allways the phillipines , as i have said before obamas blowing smoke up your ass , hes not going to give you thoes shovel ready jobs you have been crowing about on here , if he mentions them again it will be just before the next election, its time now to rescue the rich bankers the credit card companys the health insurence companys , and the war in afganistans heating up, there once again useing white phourspous killing civillians in afganistan and now packistan, the time to have taken this country back from these bought and paid for politician whores was when thier was 3 million people gathered in washington dc for the coronation of the new black kennedys , long live the new camelot!
tsk !tsk! seems no one here can read appalachin , its a shame! it seems to be a lost art,
The two Miss Califonia pageant directors, according to Trump, have completely capitulated their standards down to those of a New York Wall Street Player/Womanizer. Their bold speech yesterday, went into the sewers of New York and came out adulating their homophobic queen.
Trump lets the anti-gay queen keep her title by blaming everything on 'mis-communication'. She takes the podium and immediately bitched and moaned about how she's been soooo abused and mistreated- and then directly stabs the heart of Judge #8, for his hidden gay agenda.
Her hate speech proved she was more of a Right wing hate monger than any of us knew before and, we should all not be shocked to see that Trump has not one principled cell in his body.
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