Open Thread
By bluegal Wednesday Nov 25, 2009 8:30pm
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If Republicans want it: fifty votes plus one gets you a big tax cut.
If Democrats want it: sixty votes isn't enough to provide health insurance to every American, plus you have to give Lieberman a pony.
More at Alan Grayson's website "Stop Senate Stalling".
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has been taken care of...
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/u_s_depo...
Remember, independents are in the middle of the road, where there's a big yellow stripe, and a lot of roadkill.
Hey!
From News Corp, by MoxNewsDotCom on YouTube:
Florida Mom Announces Plans To Run Against Congressman Grayson
I'm speechless ..
I'm sure the rest of you have comments !!
Can't wait to see the debates!
Grayson: "Arrrggghhhh!!!!!!!!"
Florida Mom: "Oh!!!!!!!!!! My!!!!!!!"
(BTW...I am 4th!!!!).
If you count queue jumping. Behind the schoolhouse; 4 o'clock; come alone. :)
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i hope to see more and more of it. oh, beware ye fools, for the night of the palin is near!!!
I put an x in lambs blood over my threshold to ward off the evil spirit.
Great idea. Everyone knows mad-as-hell teabagger Mom's are in touch with world politics, once they find the USA on a map.
"I am America"! she says. Please, pull the plug now.
Why weren't these people worried about the "future their children were gonna have" while Bush and his crime pals were destroying the country for eight years? Fox labeled her a "community activist"...hmmm, wasn't Barack Obama one of those...just sayin'.
meet
joe the plumber
Sarah the Quitter
Fourth! :)
TIME magazine calls the 00s the Decade from Hell.
The article isn't so good, but everyone will see the cover.
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,859...
The Guardian uses "the noughties" to refer to the first decade of the century.
Works for me. No one reads anymore: just the headlines. Great bad press for Neocons and deranged goopers.
of that "there's something about mary" hair onto the baby
we fought no "major" wars in the 00s.
That was jaw dropping. Huh???? Where you been (writers).
In spite of Bush, I actually don't hate this decade. The 90s was fucking overrated. The entertainment consisted of attention-whoring pretentious bullshit, the people I grew up around were shallow assholes, and the politicians didn't even try to make excuses for raping you from behind. At least this decade consists of people who care about doing the right thing, movies and shows I can occasionally stand, and pols who occasionally try to represent voters. And what better way to celebrate a new decade, then by putting the final nail in the coffin of a party which represented the worst aspects of that previous era? So let's all do our best to make the 2010 mid-terms like NY-23, people.
Anyway, a Cali judge demands Barry stop fucking with a 9th Circuit lawyer's right to insure her same-sex wife. Smoking around your Mac voids the warranty. If a random couple can crash a White House shindig, how is continuing to be in Afghanistan going to make us safe from terrorism? Tea-baggers hate the right to a fair trial. Local cops call that Ky. census worker hanging a suicide. Ohio coerces a doctor into executing people. An activist group leaks hundreds of thousands of texts made during 9/11.
the decline cannot be stopped
signing petitions will not fix the problem
the problem is the system or systems
election system controlled by lobbyists.
capitalism system is designed to self destruct
self righteous americans still think they are #1
wars for profts system
industrial military complex system
nation building for war profits
poor quality products
corp fascism
open borders for cheap labor
greed to keep open borders open
the list is long
only complete failure and bottom out will awaken a country like america
then too late third world status has arrived
states already bankrupt
federal gov bankrupt borrowing hundreds of billions
printing hundreds of billions
stick a fork in us we are done
naw stay in denial and sign petitions.
oh and lets have some more tax cuts for the rich
a bankrupt country doing trillion dollar nation building in the most corrupt country on planet earth and obama wants to spend more of our borrowed and printed money on them. dumber than dumb
he may not have a choice, cant say why here.
and you say we dont live in a corrupt dumbed down immoral country?
until americans realize it is jefferson time nothing much will change in america except new politicans that give you the same old lies and promises.
now lets send more troops to afghan: the end is near.
think! naw it will all work out ok we have hope :-)
country???!!
Not me!!!!
Please use them. Consider, also, commas and apostrophes.
Otherwise, your research looks promising.
suckers. the revolution begins now! no more shift keys. ever!!!
I can't help myself; I'm an English major. ;)
the revolution is a failure.
didn't care for the shift thingy, and he turned out fairly well.
:)
I am the very model of a modern Major-General,
I've information vegetable, animal, and mineral,
I know the kings of England, and I quote the fights historical,
From Marathon to Waterloo, in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted too with matters mathematical,
I understand equations, both the simple and quadratical,
About binomial theorem I'm teeming with a lot o' news---
With many cheerful facts about the square of the hypotenuse.
I always thought you were that cosmetics lady. Silly me.
n/t
must... go... to ... bed...
too... tired... to... use... shift... key...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=939rmCw87no
then you become one of us
one of us
one of us
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jAVM0prVm4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBXyB7niEc0
jooba jooba
YOU to say......;-)
http://www.donmarquis.com/readingroom/archybo...
It's government corruption. Period
Take the mortgage backed securities. Why has no one at the rating agencies been charged with representing the mortgage backed securities as "AAA" with knowledge that they weren't entitled to that rating, because the borrower hadn't made a substantial down payment, or hadn't verified their income, and so forth?
Take the national defense budget. Why was it that our politicians were voting for defense projects at a time that parents of our troops were forced to finance their body armor?
Take health care. Why does the current health care "reform" proposal require people to buy health insurance from "insurers" when most large businesses self insure? That question is off the table because it's idiocy to pay a risk premium for a nation where the requirement is that everyone should be insured, which is the Democrat's proposal.
It's government corruption, folks. Until that is addressed, there can be no meaningful reform on any other financial issue.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA9g8tOeamU&fe...
vileness fats???
Anthony Weiner schools Stuart Varney on health care.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/24/peta...
Is this in bad taste?
to a Rush, BillO, Hannity, Beck, Liz or Dick Cheney or Palin post somewhere.
that NBC refused to air.
Guaranteed.
that is about those turkeys I mentioned above. Why does PETA want tto protect them?
REAL turkeys...
Gobble, gobble, gobble....
Those I mentioned are real turkeys, except maybe Rush, a real porker.
gooble gobble?
Listened to this two days ago...
The Secret Political Reach Of 'The Family'
don't be one of those in line at 5:30 A.M. to be in line for shopping on Black Friday.
some are saying 4:00 A.M.
to go out to a mall to "talk" with fellow citizens.....
It might be kinda fun to stand in the middle of a major parking lot with a sign that says:
SCREW THE HOLIDAYS....SUCKERS!!!!!!
The end of the year seems like a perfect time to stock up on all the stuff you didn't have time to buy during the rest of the year because you were too busy buying other stuff. Remember, all the stuff you don't buy at the end of the year may not be available at the beginning of the year when you're out buying your new stuff.
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The irony, which is lost on everyone, almost, shopping centers are private property.
They were part of the post WWII privatization of the everything, which continues to this day.
You would be confronted by private police.
I am giving out cash this year just as I did last year.
I cut waaay back on my external illumination the last few years....my neighbor Clark Griswold is pleased with the lack of competition.
Last year my parents gave to needy folks. I told them I didn't need or want anything, and said the gift they gave was the best possible. I was really happy.
I would be truly insulted and saddened if someone stood in such a line just to buy me a "thing".
Modern day slaves for the corporate gangsters.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone! Please acknowledge the plight of the Native(Original) Americans.
http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2009/11/...
to roll in her grave if a land mine hadn't gone off nearby.
(snarkK
Ralph Nader here
After the Pope of Rope a Dope and No Hope comes out with his Afghanistan plan, the new plan which is the old plan write larger, can we put impeachment on the table?
Grayson does have a point. The use of the filibuster is not in the US Constitution. A simple majority used to be all that was required, even to the point of the office of Vice President was (1) Presidential succession, and (2) as President of the Senate, to break tie votes. Political corruption, the notion of the Senate as a "Wealthy Gentleman's Club & C-Street Choir", and the rise of the Corporatist State has turned this "House of Lords" tradition into a cluster-flock similar to the legislative FUBAR that exists today in California. Super-majority, my ass! Even Grayson's proposal of 55 votes instead of 60 to break a non-existent filibuster is BS. If these Senators want to filibuster, let them do it the old-fashioned way on the floor of the Senate, cases of Depends and cases of Red Bull included. With live streaming C-SPAN, we can see who the real ass-hats in the Senate are, and let them suffer the political consequences.
The problem is that the so-called democrats don't want it either.
Changing the filibuster rule from 60 to 55 is not going to change anything.
If the dems really wanted healthcare, they could use the reconciliation route.
They don't. They won't.
Obama has been in hiding on healthcare.
The "public option" as presently proposed is an insult to all Americans.
If you want to have an effect, Alan, you have to do more than dump on Republicans.
The Dems are a spineless bunch.
D.C. Pastors Learn There Are Limits To Their Power
November 25, 2009
Snip - “Ministers who oppose same-sex marriage say they now feel belittled, ignored and isolated by a government that no longer views the clergy as a mighty political force,” reports The Post. “Activists, political leaders and some ministers who have come to tolerate, if not embrace, same-sex relationships argued that socially conservative ministers just chose to fight a battle they had lost years ago as the city changed around them.”
Of global stocks and the dollar.
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-fdic-is-82...
The FDIC collects fees from the banking industry to cover losses. At least it suppose to, under Bushco it didn't. That is my recollection.
There is a new program (under the Pope of Rope a Dope and no Hope (R-Government Sachs)) which allows it to access funds from the Treasury, up to $500 billion, in other words, from the taxpayers instead of the banks.
It was a Bankster coup d'etat in September of '08. The election was a formality.
Happy National Eating Day, everyone.
Jonathan Turley here
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I'm a vegan, I have my eyes set on a big cauliflower I got last night at the grocery. Spinach leaves, lentils, tomatoes…
I'm hungry already…
I'm not totally vegan since I do eggs, dairy and some fish occasionally.
I'll be having dinner today with the whole family (including the ex and his wife). Of course there will be the ceremonial turkey...and those of us eating "tofurkey?" will make our barbed comments to the others, but sadly I don't think we'll see a change in the way people eat in our lifetimes.
If I had a decent kitchen to cook in I would have whipped up this really great walnut loaf with tamari gravy. It's really awesome. It's actually easy to create an incredible feast without killing/torturing any other living thing.
I saw where the Hindu's began a ritualistic slaughter of 250.000 animals yesterday by cutting the heads off hundreds of buffalos.
Happy Thanksgiving Abby!
A small (I gave the big one away to a larger family) pie pumpkin baked w/cornbread stuffing. Cauliflower from the garden, time to get it before it all flowers. Turnip and collard greens. New potatoes (maybe) from a surprise late crop that didn't rot in the ground due to excessive rain.
Anybody want some heirloom Texas Hill Country Red Okra seeds? Half our freezer is full of big fat okra...
And, for gearhead fun, this. --MaryK
When I celebrate something has to bleed
And die...
Here you are up and all perky at 5 a.m. and I'm laying here wishing I had an Ambien so I could get back to sleep! The Rescue Remedy sleep, valerian, melatonin, Yogi Bedtime tea and 5HTP aren't cutting it.
Oh! It's 8 a.m. in Florida! No wonder you're up!
Happy Eating Day to you to POP!
I'm couch crashing with one of my sons in L.A. now and I tried to bake a pumpkin cheesecake in his very old apartment oven yesterday and burned it! Ha! So I decided to just trim off the burned part, load it up with some whipped cream and sprinkle some cinnamon on top! Ha!
I guess once the family has my Spinach Balls for an appetizer they'll forgive me for the f'd up dessert!
What's more painful, watching Sarah Palin's interview here, or the FOXaganda dimwits giving their "in depth" analysis afterwards?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZZ-0SJO_tc&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jnhL3_8-1U&fe...
Anybody really believe Sarah Palin changed a baby diaper right before her debate with Biden? Please, there are more truthful accounts in her book than that statement. Unless she thought there was a camera on her while she was doing it.
The speech President Obama should give on Afghanistan! But won't.
is National Buy Nothing Day. I celebrate it every year.
I always look forward to Boxing Day
It KO's that phony-balogna kwanzaa any day
And I enjoy my annual rewatching of The Life of Brian.
Rep. Grayson rightly calls some bimbo a K-street whore and the right gets its panties in a bunch and Bill-O sends out his stalker to get a follow-up from Rep. Grayson, and yet..... it is perfectly acceptible for Bill-O and Beck to call Sen. Landrau[sic] a prostitute
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