CPAC tweet of the day via Mock, Paper, Scissors. Open thread below...
Meet the Press: Michael Steele Thinks We Should Investigate Torture...But Don't Ask Him If Torture Is Appropriate |
Ed Schultz Brings National Attention to Florida Voter Roll Purge |
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Tucker Carlson: Reporters Have 'Slavish, Dog-Like Loyalty' to Obama |
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John Fugelsang: Only in America Can You Be Pro-Death Penalty, Pro-Torture... and Still Call Yourself Pro-Life |
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Arizona Congressional Candidate 'Pulls a Coffman' |
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Colin Powell Takes Hannity to Task for His Obsession with Bill Ayers and Rev. Wright |
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Bill Maher Knocks Liberty University: It Cheapens My Degree From a Real School |
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Compassionate Conservatism: Romney Meets Medical Marijuana Patient |
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Stockman: Romney Can't Say He Learned How to Create Jobs in the Leveraged Buyout Business |
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Krugman: Romney's Business Career is Fair Game |
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Arizona Congressional Candidate 'Pulls a Coffman' |
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Fox News Refuses To Acknowledge Norway Shooter's Right-Wing Beliefs |
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NY Fox 5 Crew Pepper Sprayed And Assaulted By NYPD |
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Bill Maher Sends Alexandra Pelosi Out to Interview Mississippi Residents |
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President Obama and AZ Gov. Jan Brewer Share Testy Exchange at Phoenix Airport |
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Rachel Maddow: PolitiFact... You Are Fired! |
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From my brother's really cute girlfriend, while we were watching a program about the valiant and successful efforts to save prematurely born babies:
"If you're born premature, do you still have the same birthday?"
Kingdom Tower
I don't doubt it for a second. Republidiots are living in the 1930's.
I refuse to read more than one or two articles about these cretins. They don't pay attention to us, so why should I pay attention to them.
Is it the 21st century yet?
Because these idiots have nearly destroyed the country, and they have no intention of stopping.
They are so freaking clueless, they think it was FDR's fault, even though he eliminated the huge wealth discrepancies, kept Wall Street theives in check for 60 years, and helped create the pro working class envitonment that produced the largest and most prosperous middle class the world has ever seen. All, despite the completely commited resistance of the republican party.
Unemployed? Yeah tea baggers, the conservatives will help with taht. After all, they are the ones who had your job shipped overseas to begin with.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
...I doubt it.
Check back after the zombie apocalypse.
At least I really hope not, I find it hard to believe a person in their 20's could be that daft.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
when bush was selected.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Haven't we already heard this song before??
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/zombie_...
Thanks for the link.
"There are some questions as to Reagan's critical thinking skills."
There always was!
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
If the U.S Government reinstituted literacy tests, the GOP would lose their major voting block.
Only simple words, such as moron and home-schoolers.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Instant Fail
Ron Paul won the straw poll at the CPAC Convention and took the mantle away from Mitt Romney:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/02/20/cpac...
Here's Ron Paul's speech at CPAC (three parts):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfY1wXo_Sz0&fe...
It's interesting. The guy's calling for shutting down all the military bases world-wide, not going to war without a war resolution from Congress, shutting down the Federal Reserve (his bill to audit the Feds passed in the House already and is moving through the Senate, I believe), being more tolerant of other people's political philosophy's, respecting the Constitution, he's into personal freedom and doing away with the War on Drugs, and on and on.
When it was announced that he had won the straw poll some in the audience (the Palin neocons who are calling for an illegal "pre-emptive war on Iran"), booed him.
So, here we have an anti-MIC "best friend to Dennis Kucinich" winning the Conservative PAC's straw poll for president as he denounced NEOCONS.
Interesting times....
I kinda wish Obama and the Democrats would back some of Ron Paul's positions....
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Ron Paul-n-Dennis Kucinich...
I got problems with Kucinich and his anti gun stance
and Ron Paul and his pro life stance but...
I love em both as they speak truth to power!!!
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who is embraced by troofers and neo nazis...and for good reasons
ya...i think they should create their own ticket
the nutjob ticket
you have no questions about 9/11?
(I bet you think there were weapons of mass destruction too huh?)
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thinks that the market should take care of everything. He would be even worse than W was for lining the pockets of the rich.
Ron Paul's campain coffers would be stuffed full of dirty corporate money!
In fact....Obama led the pack in corporate campaign contributions.
you need to learn how to play the "follow the money game"!
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Are you serious?
Man, some of you people are so thick. You should check to see where the majority of his 2008 Pres. Election donations came from. Small donations by millions of Americans.
Before you speak, think.
DUH. So some money did come from corporations, the majority were small donations by millions of individuals. Whats he supposed to do? Reject the corporate money? Would you do that? "Oh, no thanks for that $200k, I'm good" - what? God will provide? Sheesh. TAKE THE FUCKING MONEY! Now do something good with the office and power. The proof is in the pudding. So far its pretty runny pudding...
than i do about 9/11
man landed on the moon
the sky is blue
and a bunch of crazed saudis hijacked planes and flew them into the towers and the pentagaon...while bush read a book about a pet goat
and that crazy little elf with the hot wife saw a ufo
you all are bonkers
Or you just don't do your homework!
It is called the GOP. or the republican party.
As driftglass said these people are moral and intellectual children. They do not have the maturity to make decisions that effect other. They should not be allowed to participate in anything that effects someone else.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
This infatuation with Ron Paul is where a little knowledge is dangerous, of course, depending on your perspective.
My problem with Ron Paul is his opposition with the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which, among other things, meant that, for example, a luncheonette couldn't deny service to a potential customer based on the prospective customer's race. Similarly, a hotel couldn't refuse accommodations for racial discrimination reasons. Ron Paul believes the bill violates the Constitution, based on a "freedom of association" rationale. The Supreme Court upheld the Civil Rights Act under the theory that the "commerce clause" within the constitution gave Congress the authority to forbid racial discrimination.
This position has made Ron Paul the darling of the neo-confederate branches of the libertarians and tea party people, as well as white supremacists everywhere.
Currently, populism is taking over both the Democratic and Republican parties, which in no small sense, prompted the Supreme Court to go beyond the issues being litigated to create this "corporations are people" concept, in an effort to retain corporate control of both predominant political parties. In looking for alternatives, it is important to look "under the hood" to see how much bathwater is mixed in with the baby.
So far, I don't see a lot of bathwater with Kucinich. However, the Civil Rights issue with Ron Paul is a showstopper. We need to confine our championing to issues, not the man.
The prevailing issue we have is the corrupting influence of Big Money and Big War on the government. Seems Massachusetts just elected Big Money to the Senate, as I'm hearing that out of state banks financed Brown's campaign in opposition to Obama's proposed tax on banks. That's what paid for the surge in campaign ads on television in the last 5 days, so I'm told.
to the racist accusations...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmk8oCGNac0
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Whether Ron Paul is a racist is irrelevant, and I don't think that he is. The issue is whether he thinks that the Civil Rights Act unconstitutionally prohibits others from discriminating on racial grounds.
This YouTube clip is quite disingenuous. In addressing the racist charge, he deflects the position taken on the Civil Rights Act to the so called "War on Drugs", which is only an aspect of racism. My opinion on the War On Drugs is that it is really a war on personal freedom.
This clip has the BS meter pegged on the 100% mark, since it doesn't address Ron Paul's opposition to the Civil Rights Act based on a "freedom of association" basis. Listen to this clip, "talk about that", meaning the war on drugs. I'm not interested in talk on the war on drugs, even though I oppose this war as well.
You need to post the YouTube clip on the position taken on the Civil Rights Act, particularly "The federal government has no legitimate authority to infringe on the rights of private property owners to use their property as they please and to form (or not form) contracts with terms mutually agreeable to all parties." It is this position that has the white supremacists wrapping their arms around Ron Paul, and that is the issue requiring addressing. The YouTube clip doesn't address this issue.
Well said.
absolutely no problem with a private business owner discriminating on the basis of race or religion or sex or anything else. The Govt that is a different story.
Hell if I had my choice I would open up a bar that only allowed large breasted, green eyed, redheaded nymphos. But my wife would I think have a problem with that. Besides that small problem. I don't think the Gov should have any say who a business owner employs or allows in.
Alan Grayson cosponsored the "audit the fed" amendment with Ron Paul.
And to me that exemplifies precisely what should be happening in Congress - working together on issues instead of engaging in partisan warfare.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
A-men!
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that they cheered Ron Paul who is anti-war and anti-torture but jeered Bob Barr for saying the same things that Paul supports. These people really are too stupid to draw breath. They've got to have some kind of hidden life support that does it for them.
Destroyed the easy access to higher education Californians once enjoyed.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
institutionalized who came to visit their sane loved ones on the weekends,
Hope the crabgrass and Bermudagrass are brown (even in summer) over your grave 'cause they couldn't pay the water bill in Simi, fucker!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
who's already lying in her first tv commercials. California is so fuc*ed.
Obviously this is old news, but I just learned that Dubya had Nancy Pfontenhauer appointed to the National Advisory Committee on Violence Against Women. She, who disbelieves female survivors of violence and abuse.
I would hope that the Wrecking Crew wouldn't get their hands on this piece of government, and I am saddened to see I am wrong about that.
Now, I'm curious as to who Obama appointed...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
It could also be a message of irony, hoping for the return of Reagan to kick some ass over there and toss out the looneys.
Although I fear in Republican circles Alzheimer's seems to be contagious.
toss out the looneys that worship all of his failures as if they were accomplishments?
in high school if she doesn't know that Reagan is speechless.
i believe that they played one of his old speeches
they are a party stuck in a past that never existed
pass a college entrance exam?
not that she actually managed to get accepted to one.
so if fox touts him as a clown, what does that make the cpac audience?
:>)
"There's a sucker born every minute"
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
W.C.Fields
"Never give a sucker an even brake," is the new Toyota motto.
:<)
then I think everyone should vote for him.
president?
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhMSA6Chiag&fe...
now tell us all again how andrea couldnt have written that email
but goes hungry because of the lack of brains!!!!
if the people at home were actually learning how ignorant the leaders of the CPAC and teabagger conventions are and who they are and how they are trying to get them to vote against their own best interests. Damn, I can hope can't I?
The Crazies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEMZwQulT1Q
Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.
Romney has problems keeping his hands to himself. At least Barry seems to be standing up for health care reform. One thousand employees to get the axe @ Boeing. MA says the DOMA violates the state's rights. I can't wait to see what happens when we legalize marijuana. Barry's plan for social security reform would be taxing incomes higher than $109,000. The Dutch government collapsed over what to do about Afghanistan. Egypt's out of gas. Obama wants to make sure what he says about Vegas stays in Vegas. That pilot who crashed his plane helped to expose a lapse in our security. And he's not the only tax protestor. Diabetes drug bad for the heart.
because most of those who are being layed off are techies...and my field is already in trouble
im about to lose my job, through no fault of my own
have sent out 100 resumes already....not one response...and i have 11 years of experience in the tech field....im pretty freaked as i know i cant go more than a couple of months without a steady income, and am not eligible for unemployment
Doesn't suck too bad yet. But then again, I'm not out of beer money yet, nor have I run out of spare Glenn Beck posters or ammo...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"Barry's plan for social security reform would be taxing incomes higher than $109,000."
Tax interest, dividends, and non primary residential housing capital gains as well. Also throw in Medicare assessments.
he said couples with more than $250,000.
which never should have been there in the first place
and this idea was floated years ago...but god forbid everyone should pay their fair share
REMOVE THE SS CAP
a cap on what you can get back? If so, why shouldn't there be a cap on how much you pay in? How is that not paying your fair share? If you want it to be "fair" people should not be able to receive benefits of more than they(and their employers) paid in plus interest.
A self employed person paying the maximum capped amount, would pay over 13k a year. And maximum payout per year is 8,088.
reach the max. If you still think not Joe the not a plumber makes $250 grand a year then you're still living in a dream world.
is currently capped at $106,800. You don't think a lot of self employed people out there make that much? Gross?
get your information because it is completely bogus.
Hell even me making about 20 grand a year I'll receive a little over $12 grand a year when I retire at 67 IF I live that long AND the crazy America hating Republicans don't finish destroying the SS system.
But of course you know timjoebillybob is a "conservative" and they don't like the truth because it makes them feel dirty, bad or something.
years until you retire at 67? The numbers I listed were for 2010.
NOT worker Social Security benefits!!! TRY and pay attention. Surely you know at least ONE person who collects Social Security who can clear your ignorance up for you.
I worked in a very busy H&R Block office for 5 years back in the late 90's and saw thousands of 1099SS forms which show the amount paid out to retired workers in benefits that started LONG before 2010 and they ran anywhere from around $8 grand a year up to $15 grand a year.
I was looking at the wrong chart. Current max at retire age of 65 is about $26k a year. But that is if you earned the max since age 22.
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/examplemax.html
But neither of you answered my original question. If the amount you can get back is capped, why shouldn't the amount you pay in be capped also?
Do you make more than the max and if not, why would you give a shit? If the cap is lifted perhaps the the benefits would be lifted. Try thinking out of the box.
I don't. And why do I give a shit? Because I don't feel an individual should have to pay in more than his "fair share". And as for the benefits being lifted? Yeah right.
I answered your questions, would you please answer mine?
their fair share. Look at this chart to see how they figure benefits. Up until you start getting into the higher income brackets your earnings are indexed. Which means they figure your benefits as if you earned more and therefore paid more in.
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/retirebenefi...
but you can draw on it for decades. Long after the amount you put in is gone. SS was designed to pay four years past retirement. People had shorter life spans then, and making it past 4 years was less likely than going on until you were 100. The odds were with the house, in gamblers' terms.
The other thing, is that someone like Bill Gates, who has no need for the money, can draw on the system long beyond the time HIS pay-in amount is exhausted.
It's what I like to call 'Bad Math.'
me-oww!
If you live forever, you can collect forever and there is no cap on the amount you collect.
limit the amount that SS will pay out, to what the person paid in. With interest of course.
My stepfather, who worked all his life gets about $600. a month in SS and he's 81.
From the Gov
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/SSIamts.html
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/cbb.html
over $15,000 as we speak so take your information and shove it where the sun don't shine.
Over 15k? I'm assuming your not getting SS but SSI and you have a couple of kids right? Current SS for a couple is just over a grand a month or 12,132 a year.
no kids.
COMPLETELY backwards. Just as we have come to expect from the fake conservative radicals.
"For example, a person who had maximum-taxable earnings in each year since age 22, and who retires at age 62 in 2010, would receive a reduced benefit based on a PIA of $2,413.30."
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/COLA/Benefits.html
THIS is the chart you want to be looking at.
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/ProgData/ar_drc.html
You were looking at the SSI chart!!! that is SUPPLIMENTAL Security income NOT workers Social Security income!! Two TOTALLY DIFFERENT things!!
numbers of whichever chart your looking at don't mean shi*. Just why exactly do soldiers have to rely on food stamps?
I just told you what a flesh and blood person gets and your going to go with your chart. I guess that's why my elderly neighbor eats cat food.
The only thing I get from this conversation is I've got mine. What a lousy attitude.
Stop shoveling fake gold coins at our feet as we discuss the fate of the Revolution!!
Fuckers!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
No.
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This isn't going anywhere, but it nevertheless was interesting. It seemed to me, a Utopian (star-trek like) situation that I'll never see in my lifetime.
http://www.youtube.com/russiatoday#p/u/5/4qlg...
"War is the supreme failure of bridging the differences between nations, according to the creator of a social model called "the Venus Project" American futurist and inventor Jacque Fresco."
Who wants to hear Reagan? I want to hear Lincoln give the Gettysberg address.
speak a complete sentence!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"Four score and seven smores-doggonit, we won't get fooled again. (wink)"
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
With newspeak comes new gramar.
And speling.
HOW FUCKED yesterday's DOJ call was!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IBvZlRqOTw
Fuck you Holder and fuck you too Obama!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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Today's Repugs , wing nuts / tea baggers would make Reagan's head spin like a top .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
Reagan was a good frontman for the Republican machine.
Somehow I doubt he ever had an original thought, nor actually made any of the decisions within his own administration.
He projected a kind of reassuring warmth and toughness that made people feel secure.
So I think it's easy for those who were captivated by his charm to idolize him, and associate that comfort of reassurance with a time gone by when St. Ronnie ruled the Land.
He was an excellent frontman for the Republican machine.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJjbMi-SPU
Worth posting here too...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Thanks fastfeat. Unreleased Seger? Cool.
His commercial stuff drove me up the wall when I was a kid. I used to think of his music and Jackson Browne's music as "old man music", dealing with themes I was light years away from.
Now I'm the old man.
Just got it in its entirety via Rapidshare last week. Worth the $25 all in itself!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
but goddamnit, for a rich guy, his life (in song anyway) ain't much different from mine.
Too bad "Redneck Friend" isn't on Youtube though...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
@Milquetoast - AND there are no "questions about 9/11" you freakazoid other then "when are we going to stop freaking out about it". Shit. Life sucks, get used to it. They flew 2 planes into the fucking buildings you idiot. Embrace reality! We have real problems to deal with, we don't need YOU clogging up the works and wasting time on stupid phoney conspiracy shit.
Ron Paul IS a psycho, he's as looney as Palin - AND, there is nchance Paul could ever shut down the Federal Reserv, its just an audit, that will never, ever, ever have a chance at becomming law. Sorry, I freaked out. Its contagious.
You should learn to hold your stupid comments until you know what the hell you are talking about!
Good advice. I was going to ask who "they" were.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
CPAC is the bland leading the blind.
CaliforniaMike blogs at All Voices and at his own blogs, http://www.mikerappaport.net/onevoice and at http://oneminutewithmike.blogspot.com.
on Fux, you betcha.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"You know it's a gone dead train
Got to help it to burn
You know it's a gone dead train
You've got to teach it to learn"
--Jack Nitzsche
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Funny how a song about masturbation so fits these folk...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp4GFuQVY9E
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Was Michael Reagan a speaker at CPAC this year?
Commented down below before I read your comment.
I just love mock paper scissors! That site cracks me up! I go there for smiles.They have some great recipes too.
LuLu
Cien Años de Soledad
or
Pox [sic] Americana here
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
there's no surprise there. This is just typical of the fake conservatives. If they actually knew what they were saying they'd scare themselves.
March 20 in Washington, LA, and San Francisco:
http://www.pephost.org/site/PageServer?pagena...
Scroll down the page for links on specific info for LA and SF.
Who is this AB Stoddard bitch that comes on shilling for rethugs every so often? She claims the "narrative is set in stone", acts like she has a crystal ball, and acts all uppity in her wishful thinking. Nothing is set in stone in politics, who does she think she's fooling?
Is it the 21st century yet?
There is a reasonable explanation for that other than CPAC stupidity. One of Reagan's sons (think its Michael) is a right wing conservative pundit and its possible he was giving a talk at the convention.
No, Reagan want speak soon. He's too busy rolling around in his grave.
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