There for a minute you were getting ready to ask me to go on a moonlight walk or something. Dodged the bullet on that one.

that he/she/it, is very familiar with being on the receiving end of sarcasm.

and I have seen nothing from any of you trolls that would suggest that your claims of honesty is unimpeachable.

Nice try!

Oh, now you are just trolling me. :s

Ah feck, after a while the post tree gets fecked up for me. And ones again i have to apoligize.

Maybe i should have a disclamer that says that i'm blind or something.

I love this country. I have lived in several other countries during my life and there is something so vibrant and reckless (in the best sense of the word) and diverse about living in the US that I make and continue to make a conscious choice to remain here and raise my kids as Americans.

But as ferociously as I love my children, I can still recognize when they are screwing up or not living up to their potential. And I speak up then too. Because I love them.

And when we screw up in this country or we don't live up to our potential, I speak up as well. Because I love this country.

Many here have observed that right wing nut jobs just do not understand irony.

You don't come into all the threads every day so how can you judge? There is a community here and we know. And, yeah, we like to bitch, don't you?

It's like the news, usually bad. I suppose they could put up threads about baby kittens to make us feel all warm and gooey, but...

We have two.

they would do that to republicans.

Sat, 07/17/2010 - 22:28 — Edwin

I prefer stories about water-skiing squirrels...

Yes.

As I like to say, "no one hates you for your freedom, we hate you because your country is run by assholes" ...(you vote for).

The economy is in the crapper and is getting worse. Yes, I know it started at the end of the Bush administration but it has been a year of getting worse after a trillion dollar Keynesian stimulus. My college prof was a keynesian. I hold Milton Friedman in higher regards.

The oil spill in the gulf was no more Obamas fault than Katrina was Bush's but Bush suspended the Jones act in 3 not 70 days.

We are no longer respected world wide. That gets young men killed on both sides. Who was it that said it is better to be respected than liked?

With that being said, you guys like Obama.

My feelings towards Iraq and Afganistan are we shouldn't be there. Do not mistake me for a pacifist. I think we needed to kill Saddam and his sons. Grab a general. Put him in charge with the caveat of hold elections in 6 months and don't make us come back to blow you up again. Same thing in Afganistan.

It got worse with the Bushes. It certainly didn't start in 2008, as you infer.

Well RM, we the people are the country,
and 'nads' is definitely doesn't like us.

I have yet to meet a happy Tea Bagger.

and, Do not mistake nads for a pacifist.

The economy is bad, but it's actually getting better. Unemployment--while still too high--is starting to show improvement. I really don't understand this almost ADHD fantasy that everything would improve over night. It's taken 30 years of Reaganomics to get us in this situation, it's going to take time to pull us out again.

And I WISH that we were doing a strict Keynesian stimulus, but we didn't. Almost half of the stimulus took the form of tax cuts which do not stimulate. So blaming Keynesian ignores that Friedman's sneaky head keeps popping up.

As to world wide respect, I hate to break this to you, but that happened during Bush. I had to go to a writer's conference in the Netherlands in 2004. People actually wanted to know if I was a "good" American, meaning they didn't trust me if I supported Bush.

I agree wholeheartedly on Iraq. I do think we need to be gone. But I don't think it was our place to decide whether Saddam stayed or not.

"The banking bubble said was caused by money being lent to people unable to pay..."

... Whose mortgages were bundled into a security that was graded "AAA" indicating an ability TO pay. That's the nexus of the meltdown, and the reason why the fiasco scaled.

It was the "AAA" rating of the mortgage backed securities that had the mortgage originators seeking out new loans, because once they were bundled into a security and sold, the originator was paid. And due to the AAA rating, the originator was paid MORE than the loan was worth.

...and it damn sure was not Fannie and Freddie that started the ball rolling down hill.

freddie/fannie mae?

you have not one clue.

http://minx.cc/?blog=86&post=303712#c10328634

and served all my term. Not like GWB who you guys seem to have so much respect for or Limbaugh who had a blister on his ass probably from lighting farts. How about most of the right wingers that never served a day in their lives but seem to be hell bent on destroying our way of life. I could go on and on but hopefully you get my drift.

Now you have a lively thread. That's a lot better than the circle jerk I first witnessed before we trolls showed up.

Re Bush's Service: The man flew a F-111. An idiot can't do that. Clinton's service was stellar. Oops strike that. He dodged the draft. Murtha was a Marine. I use was because he was a crooked pork stealing SOB. He started out crooked in ABSCAM during the seventies and stayed that way. There's some news. I guess neither party is clean. Politics never has been.

proto simian way or a gotta give you a little respect sort of way?

off to lala land again.

Bush thinks he was flying, but he was just wasted on coke (and booze, but no need to go there). He's lead a privileged life and avoided work of any kind. Cheney ran things from 2000 to 2008. But you're probably OK with that, an ineffectual president, a puppet, a deciderer. He was Xian, white, stupid and loved starting wars, hence his appeal to the BAGGERS. A real American.

John McCain served and dropped bombs on the deck. His best action he ever did.

Now you can't even recognize honesty. You are paranoid.

Are you talking to me?

I was Air Force, E-4, Top Secret Clearance, Honorable Discharge, and paid my way through college with a combination of Hazelwood and my own money (texts and fees often higher than tuition).

...is doing fairly well these days. The Russians went in and drilled their extremely deep wells. There's oil there, just like SOMEbody knew back in the day... Vietnam war was about oil, folks.

U.N. president J. Edgar Hoover once said, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country"

I've got to stop now. GNA

- I vote against the Republicans as the greater of the two evils. If "Instant Runoff" ever becomes reality, I'll vote in line with someone who adheres to the following:
- I'm fiscally conservative, which means I don't like squandering a lot of money.
- I'm especially anti-ideologue, which means I don't like theories or financial ideologies guiding my decisions, I like the data guiding policy. As an example, in health care, I don't care whether it's a free market approach, or a government approach, so long as it's the cheapest approach. I noticed that certain options were "taken off the table" to preclude cost comparisons. If left to me, I would copy a health system from abroad, as Ross Perot suggested. He was a businessman, and I want a businessman approach in fixing health care.
- Quagmires. We're currently mired in three quagmires, Iraq, Afghanistan, and the so called "war on drugs". Between all three, we're blowing about $300B per year. I want exit strategies devised for all three wars.

Take Afghanistan:
The NATO position on the poppy business is: "We cannot be in a situation where we remove the only source of income for people who live in the second poorest country in the world without being able to provide them an alternative. That is simply not possible," .
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?contex...

So, they don't want to take away the financing mechanism that the Taliban uses to finance the war? So, we're locking up people in the U.S. for buying something we think should be sold in Afghanistan, and where the proceeds are used to wage war against us?

You are right. We don't like Republicans or Democrats. I think people in the middle are people who are stuck. As they say, it's a choice between bad or worse. You haven't been here long, or you would have heard me said that the corporate media is steering people into a false dichotomy, namely a dichotomy between bad or worse. Take financial reform:

Q: What happens if the regulations to prevent a depression enacted during our last depression are repealed?

Q: What happens if the regulations to prevent a depression aren't reinstated?

Way I see it, we can't get past DumbBell 101.

But, whether you're Left, or Right, support Instant Runoff, if you're not happy with the status quo. And be sensitive to when you're being steered into a false dichotomy. Remember, there are not necessarily two sides to a story, there may be 10 sides to the story. Someone steering towards only two sides often results in a false choice.

--Edit
The correct choice might be one that is "off the table."

After a hard week of ruining America, there's nothing I like more than to put a few fetuses on the grill, kick back with illegal immigrant buddies, toss back a few North Korean beers, and watch some of our favorite flag-burning videos. Later, we'll probably tear a couple of pages out of the Bible and roll a couple of spliffs.

I think Jackie Chan is taller, too.