appeals to my prurient interests without truly stimulating them?

This has to be political suicide. How can the Repubs go back

to their constituents with this kind of performance.

I am no conspiracy theorist but there must be something coming down the

road we don't know about. They must be gambling on an epic Obama failure

or they are so leaderless they are just flailing.

It won't pass in the Senate.

Don't know why I think this...but I think Specter, Nelson and Lieberman will bolt. Last-minute objections and "crises of conscience," or some such BS.

Let me get this straight. The stimulus bill had to be reworked so as to be more palatable to Republics, yet not one Republic voted for it??????

So, tell me again, why did they have to rework the original bill?

Let's just cut through the bullshit and save everyone a lot of time;

1.Republics aren't going to support anything this administration does because they want it to fail,

2. Democrats have enough votes in the House to do what they want,

3. If this has little or no impact on the economy, Republics will only say 'I told you so'? If it does have an impact, they will say it worked because they pushed for more tax cuts?

4. There seems to be absolutely no upside to trying to appease Republics. So fuck 'em; we'll do what we want.

That work for everyone?

For house repubs, this is the mother of all gambles. If they are right, the country goes even deeper into shit. If they are wrong and the country begins to dig out of this hole, they are history.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ

http://reason.com/news/show/131661.html

Will the goods and services in the Democrats' stimulus plan—be they concrete for new highway projects or groceries for hungry families—pump up flagging demand and boost stalled economic activity?

If so, it will be the first time in recorded history.

the gop is like a man that proposes marriage
to a woman but says the ring is coming and then
just strings the woman along and along and along
because he wants the sex but not the responsibility
that comes with real commitment.

i think thier banking on this bill bankrupting social security and medicare and retirement funds of the old ones, something they dont want to be tied to!

i mean not that they dont want to get rid of social securty ect , they just want the dums to get the credit!

we know that repugliscum, media and corporations are working as hard as they can against the public, as witnessed by the total lack of economists being publically consulted on the bill. with the DLC, DSCC and DCCC being so willing to screw the people under the guise of bipartisanship, what else could we have expected?

what else are we supposed to expect, regardless of what we voted for? the bubbleheads in the bubble don't have a notion of what the people want or need. they planned their schpiel, executed it and give no credit to those who worked so hard to get this country steered toward a more positive future.

bipartisanship is self-serving, not people-serving. I'm voting against all incumbents. this has never been about a debate for me. this is about the future for my kids.

"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. It fool me. We can't get fooled again."

I hope Obama takes this House vote with zero Republican support seriously. The Republicans in Congress want him to fail regardless of the cost to America. I never thought in my lifetime I'd see a major political party become such a single threat to the American way of life.

Democrats who voted against it.

Bobby Bright, Alabama
Peter DeFazio, Oregon (this man is a hero)
Parker Griffith, Alabama
Walt Minnick, Idaho
Collin Peterson, Minnesota
Heath Shuler, North Carolina
Gene Taylor, Mississippi

Here's a thought: perhaps the republicans simply disagree with Obama's plan.

Nope, its pure hatred, conscious stupidity, and a shear willingness to destroy america. Yeah, thats it. I know its easier to call people names, then it is to defend an undefendable viewpoint, so i don't blame the left for being intellectually lazy in making the case for even more government power. At the same time, im not enthusiastic about their lack of intellectual honesty.

is this: Will Obama's plan work? If yes, then he gets 8 years as President. If no, Democrats lose control in two and Obama is out in four. It's a huge gamble and there is no certainty about the stimulus package. Seriously folks, the bill is over 1000 pages long. How many who voted for it, really understand it fully? How many even read it (I say none). Why is this bill being rushed? Why aren't "the people" given more time to read it now that it's available to the public?

Personally, I hope it does a lot of good. I have doubts but I hope I'm wrong. From what I am reading and listening to on cable, even the experts are calling for caution. Many are saying flat out that this stimulus package is doomed for failure. We'll have to wait an see.

... that child is a slave.

We have allowed the traitorous federal reserve and this illigitmate government to move one step closer to their goal. The destruction of the United States of America and the establishment of a global tyrannical system. Feudalism is alive and well in 2009.

Shame on us who sit by and do nothing as the wealth and lives of future generations are sold off as collateral. Shame on us for allowing our country to devolve into a gluttonous and apathetic society that has forgotten it own identity.

Democrats, Republicans, Independants, all of us have a common enemy. It is not the middle eastern nations we are told by the corporate media.

Our enemies are the United Nations, The Council on Foreign Relations, The Bildergers, The IMF, The World Bank, The Federal Reserve, The Military Industrial Complex. These are the people who conspire and commit the terrorism and wars we will end up dieing for.

Research and you'll find out what they have planned for us all. This collapse of our economy is the final step before they shut it down completely. A revolution will follow soon there after. Then maybe we'll start acting like true American patriots and take our future back from these tyrants.

It is apparent that, in the midst of all the din and noise on The Capitol Hill, no comprehensive thinking has been devoted to ascertain how and what benefits will accrue to the economy of this country from this stimulus package.

There are essentially two components (apart from various inevitable pork-earmarks) in this stimulus package:
1) Tax cuts and tax rebates (A Republican input)
2) Spending on infrastructure like highways, bridges, etc.(A Democratic input)

Giving 500-1000 dollars, by way of tax cuts and rebates, to a family will only straightaway induce them to go out and buy some sundry and consumer electronic items from WalMart or Target stores. If these products are at least manufactured within this country, it will certainly give a shot in the arm to the country’s economy. But, it is an unpalatable fact that almost all these items are imported from China, Mexico and other countries. These are not FDR’s 1930’s era when almost every household item was made within this country. Hence, buying these products may somewhat ameliorate the economic situation in the countries we import these products from and certainly not here. Hence, this way of boosting consumer spending is just applying a 1930s’ remedy to a 2010s’ disease.

As for the proposed spending on various infrastructure projects, unless the Government (at the state or the federal level) decides to execute all these projects directly without involving any private enterprises or contractors, they all will be non-starters. If the overall objective of this exercise is to create jobs in the private sector, there are many hurdles in the way. I doubt that even a die-hard Democrat would relish the government carrying out these infrastructure projects on its own without private sector participation. But, if any private contractor makes a successful bid for any such project, he or she will have to tie up needed working capital in advance. After all, the Government will pay the contractor only either after the project is completed or in part payments depending on the progress in the project execution. I am not sure that anyone in the government would favor payments to private contractors in advance of even the projects being even started. Do we have an extradition treaty with Mexico or Brazil?

Here lies the crunch. The banks are not as yet willing to advance any credit to medium and small scale enterprises and businesses. Hence, the main and most crucial problem related to the credit crunch must be sorted out before any of these ambitious plans are rolled out for execution. Only a few people in the governmental hierarchy, like the Federal Reserve Chairman, Ben Bernanke, seem to be aware of this problem but they are afraid to speak out