October 13, 2009 08:30 PM
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Meme-nto, that inability of some people to form any new political memories that conflict with the way they desperately want the world to be. Click here for larger.
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Obama approves another 13,000 troops for Afghanistan, that is on top of the previous 21,000, here
Glenn Greenwald writes in a broader vein here
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The Banksters and the Perpetual War Machine, here
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Little Timmie's phone records show he takes his orders from the Banksters, and not many at that.
Now, Nomi Prins digs into Paulson the Plunderer's phone logs and finds that his goto guys were Timmie and the Pope of Hope, here
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
article earlier today, which was interesting. Just confirms what I/We already believed/knew to be the case. The amazing thing is that these people are so brazen anymore, they don't make much of an effort to conceal what they're doing....and still, most Americans don't get it.
I was wondering when I read it, how she had access to the calendars/phone records?. I was thinking how nice it would be to get Cheney's phone records for, say, the week of Sept 1-11,2001...
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
business, are you? Dave Niewart doesn't like you "troofers." Seriously.
That's because they are full of crap.
Spotted any UFOs lately?
"the truth is out there"
Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/
Everytime you buy something from a Rite Aid Pharmacy, some of that money goes to the Republiklan party.
Everytime you buy Tyson Chicken some of that money goes to conservative Democratic Representative Mike Ross who opposes any government plan for health insurance.
Every time you use an American Express Card, some of that money goes to conservative Democratic Senator Max Baucus who opposes any government plan for health insurance.
I have the solution to too much company influence over legislation. Boycott some of those companies en masse and make them get it for us. Yes, we will need to get at least 100,000 people to act on these. With these actions you can help limit corporate power.
Make these phone calls and spread the word.
Boycott Tyson Foods of Arkansas who gave Mike Ross D-Arkansas $37,000 for his campaigns. Call lobbyist for Tyson Foods Chuck Penry 202 393 3921 and tell him politely that you refuse to buy Tyson chicken until Mike Ross D-Arkansas the leader of the Blue Dogs on health care gets the entire house and senate conservative Democrats to help get HR 676 enacted into law. Tell others to call.
Boycott American Express who gave Max Baucus $50,000 for his campaigns. Call Joanna Lambert at 212 640 9668 and politely tell her you will not use any American Express cards until Max Baucus gets HR 676 enacted into law. Tell others to call.
Call GOP contributor Rite Aid Pharmacies at 800 325 3737 and tell the person to get the CEO to get congress to enact HR 676 Single payer health care and enact a new Medicare Prescription drug benefit in Medicare Part B covering 80% of the cost of drugs with no extra premiums, no extra deductibles, no means tests, no coverage gaps, and remove the means test for Medicare Part B and until that happens, you won't buy ANYTHING from Rite Aid Pharmacies.
In 2008 Brown-Forman, the maker of Jack Daniels Whiskey and Southern Comfort gave Mitch McConnell money for his campaigns. CALL Brown-Forman AT 502-585-1100 and tell the person who answers to get the CEO to GET Mitch McConnell to execute no Republican filibusters and enact the Employee free choice act into law or you don't buy Jack Daniel's whiskey and Southern Comfort anymore!
Call GOP contributor Wendy's restaurants at 800 443 7266 and tell the person who answers that you want their CEO to get congress to enact a $10/HR MIN. WAGE into law and until this happens you will not go to a Wendy's Restaurant.
Call GOP contributor and war contractor General Electric Corporation at 800 386 1215 or 203 373 2211 and tell the person who answers, to tell the GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt that you want him to get the President to end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and until that happens you will not buy any GE products and that you will tell your friends about this.
ever saw us they would run or nuke us .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
Listening to rush, kkklannity, slaggage, etc has made them determine that there is no intelligent life here.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
wats dat
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
should of said " watts dat "
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
Just like 'there's WMD in Iraq', and 'we don't rendition & torture', and a host of other LIES we heard from Cheney/Bush et al, there are myriad reasons for questioning how they were involved in the demolition of the WTC, and crash into the Pentagon.
I've not personally spotted any UFOs, but I've looked at hundreds of Hubble photos of the millions of galaxies in the Universe. Anyone with an open mind (or any mind) must accept the notion that we are not the only creatures, and likely not the 'best and brightest' creatures inhabiting these many worlds.
The only way we learn and make progress is to question. The Earth seems not to be flat after all......
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/13/myst...
they don't exist. Unless you personally have proof that 9/11 was false-flag event, it wasn't. "Everyone takes the limits of his own vision for the limits of the world." Schopenhauer.
Also: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident." Arthur again.
on that fateful morning, former Transport Secretary Norman Mineta testimony put Cheney in the command bunker and in control at the time of the attacks, something Cheney lied about during his explanation later.
"50 miles out, 40, 30, 20, 10, do the orders still stand ?"
oops the Pentagon.
And this is from the the official Commission report and its video depositions.
will just keep coming out until a tipping point is reached.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
...............for the link. I knew the banksters weren't done robbing the USofBLOODYISRAEL blind, because we still have some $$$$$$ Cohen that tells me all I need to know. Zionistwhore no doubt. Steve Clemens is 'surprised' that there's so much 'anti-semetism' in Honduras. I wonder how many financial institutions were there before the ZIONISTWHORES got there?????? It's not anti-semetism Steve, it's anti-Zionism!!!!!
At least spell it right: anti-semitism.
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statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Demento ...
Poster boys for evil. Please, somebody, arrest them!
..looks like Ted Bundy in that poster picture.
He explained that the cockpit emergency manual, which the copilot tried to consult in the emergency landing, originally had color-coded tabs for various emergency procedures. But the "new and improved" version, in an attempt to save a few cents, had all the tabs removed!! The copilot had to consult the table of contents/index to figure out what to do! Makes what he did in landing all the more remarkable.
And am I the only one who is more than a little unnerved by the similarly designed generic emergency landing cards, instructions and equipment given on today's aircraft? "In some cases, your seat may be used as a flotation device." WTF? A water landing isn't the place to find out that you'd have been better off bringing your laptop as a life preserver...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
flying airplanes (successfully).
fly the aircraft.
...in-bound Danville for full stop landing
like flaps would make such a difference on a water crash where the airspeed was already to low to keep the plane in the air.
S!~ to the pilot tho. good job :D
Edit: crap, you edited your post :s
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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normally, flaps move the stall speed higher so that the aircraft is still flyable and maneuverable at slower speeds.
So much so that on final approach you'll notice that the engines get revved up higher after descent (near the runway) so that the planes descent rate and forward motion is predictable. Along with flaps already deployed nearing the runway you'll see spoiler flaps rise up and help slow the aircraft while its doing this. If another aircraft wanders onto the runway, your flight will drop the spoilers and climb on out of there.
In the case of Sullenberger and based on my schooling and experience he saved all souls on board by not deploying flaps (at least visibly) so that he could keep the aircraft in a nose high configuration as it was to first skim the water to slow down. What actually happened (art versus science) was that the aircraft refused to become influenced by ground effect and plopped into the water quickly below a speed faster than Vs1 stall. Ground effect would have given Sully a second or two for water skimming but even though he didn't have that, all worked out for all on board.
I hear tell that there were water landing procedures that weren't followed that would have possibly kept the aircraft from sinking after everyone walked away but that's all academic now.
One of the more appealing aspects of aviation is the privilege of the pilot in command to violate any rule to safely continue flying. Sully's plane did not crash. It sank on its own.
Edit: yes I changed to the italic outro on the post at the last second. I started dreaming back to memories of my own when I flew in California with San Ramon, Danville, I-580/680, Sunol reporting points to get back into the Bay Area.
there were no "miracles" on the hudson that day....just some damn fine emergency landing skills.
'Talk to the hand'
asked the Stewardess for another pina colada, stuck my head between my legs and kissed my ass goodbye!
For more on Sully and the state of airline safety, give Michael Moore's article at the Huffington Post a read. Sure wish his movie was playing locally...
Number one here would have to be that the whole financial crisis was caused by the Bush administration's malfeasance and incompetence, and number 1a) would be that the vast bank welfare giveaway was started not by Obama, but G. Bush the (very much) lesser.
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
all memories of gwb out of sight. It's all Obama's fault know, per rush kkklannity, etc. Of course, little shrubby keeping a very low profile has helped them spin their lies.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Incompetence....not so much. The people who made this happen knew exactly what they were doing.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
was an opportunist at every simple crisis.
"How kin Ah make sum money off'n dis, Dick?"
Cheney was Bush's financial advisor.
"Well Mr. President, do it the old fashioned way... steal it!"
Announcer: "When Cheney-Halliburton speaks...
Wall Street frat boys listen".
http://www.raincitystory.com/flash/screenclea...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I don't think it's a lottery of seats with seat flotation devices. In some cases…means if we happen to land in water and you're still breathing, can stand up and move, unVelcro your seat and drag it and your ass to a door...fast.
I loved how Sully said he could hear tension in his own voice on the recording. I'd have been shrill!
Speaking of, anyone have thoughts for a better name for Palin's new book? I like "Shrill Here, Shrill Now: Living the American Scream" :-)
Edit: Shoot, this was in response to fastfeat above. Sorry!
"Faked Alaska"?
"You Bitcha"?
"Tits, Teeth, Tiara"
We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!
by City Hall:
http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=78...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
I wonder what the NYS Supreme Court's reasoning is for quashing the referendum. These people will not countenance an honest investigation.
This is not a man who wakes up one day and thinks to himself "i think the scientists may have something - the potential for global warming should be taken seriously!"
This is a political decision, which means pro-business in Graham's Republican circle, a move for a reason yet to be seen. If I had to guess, the desired effect is to get 2-3 more atomic energy plants built in SC.
I'm not afraid to acknowledge when Republicans do the right thing, especially when it goes against party platforms. So thank you, Ahnie, for recognizing a day in honor of Matthew Shepard, and signing a bill which would recognize gay marriages made in other states. MLK's children are free at last of legal in-fighting. Stalin's grandkid thinks like a neo-con. The health care bills demand that dental care be included in coverage. At least the suckonomy guarantees Obama won't have to deal with a troop shortage. College cutbacks mean students have to wait longer to get their degrees. [Not that they mean anything in today's job market, anyway, but...] Grand Ol' Pigs think any "errors" at ACORN justify screwing minorities out of loans. The U.S. wants a bunker-buster, but won't admit it's for Iran. The Nobel jury's argument for award Obama the peace prize. Teachers and day-laborers have benefited from the stimulus plan. Three female prison inmates accuse the Oklahoma governor's staff of raping them. Max Fuckus doesn't think our health care system is "broke". I like how Cali's more concerned about storms than it is about building houses near places vulnerable to fires and mudslides. Not that she's the only one in this state, but the Guvernator's wife violated the cell phone driving law. Karzai lies about the last election. R.I.P. Oasis. Seniors surprisingly have it easier with the flu than the rest of us. More Ford-style quality control.
seniors. IIRC, the flu pandemic of 1918 also killed far more young, healthy adults than it did the aged and very young. Apparently what kills isn't the flu, but the immune system's response to the flu; the immune system ends up overwhelming certain organs like the lungs and kidneys. The reaction is called a cytokine storm.
Harvey Milk.
phone? Damn, times are tougher for CA than I thought...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
That is an actual photograph of the dreaded Bush/Cheney vortex!
The one that gets me, is when W talks now, he says that we invaded Iraq because Saddam Hussein wouldn't let the inspectors in. Which is an outright lie. He told the inspectors they had 3 days to get out of Iraq, cause he was coming in. I've heard him say it a few times over the last few years. Each time, I've wanted to get up and throw a shoe or two at him. I was just afraid I'd hurt my tv.
Isn't that what kids would drop into a coke to set it rocketing off into the sky?
No, that's a bottle rocket.
Dropping a mentos in a coke bottle makes a fountain or something.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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Put some Mentos into a soda like Coke or Dr. Pepper, and watch the reaction...be sure to stand back a few yards.
Kill 70,000 people around the world annually.
I'm looking at you Ireland! Need a coat hanger? You must be like pleased that you got abortion laws for Ireland out of the Lisabon treaty.
Appalling
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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"70,000 women" die from botched abortions - mainly in underdeveloped countries. Women are still treated as disposable 'property' in countries around the globe, and the child slavery/sex trade is rampant. And we call ourselves 'human beings'??!!
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
On global warming.
He has a new low approval rating.
We had no pay raise in six out of the last 12 years, and less than 1.1% four other times - just so we could keep our health insurance. Those are lost wages, never to be regained.
Now, despite the fact that our coverage was still reduced while co-pays were increased, Max Fuckus wants to tax my "cadillac" benefits. Nice fucking job democrats.
Hey Harry Reid, I hope you get crushed next year for putting Fuckus, Bitch Lincoln and Toady Conrad on the finance committee. You are the "manchurian" majority leader if there ever was one. There is no way in hell the GOP would ever let some two-bit senator from Nowhereville, screw-up their main political policy.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
For a combination knife, fork and spoon.
a policy for moronic assholes with no judgment. At first he was ordered to REFORM SCHOOL for the utra sin of being a kid bringing his new favourite utensil to school. This is like the assholes with 0 tolerance for WEAPONS who kicked out the 5 year old for bringing a tiny plastic GI Joe knife to school. Or here in WA state, where a girl was kicked out for giving her friend with menstrual cramps a goddamn Midol...0 tolerance for drugs, don'cha know.
What morons. No wonder we're in such trouble and kids grow up being intolerant turds, just like their school masters.
me-oww!
to their ball games. Go figure. Maybe that's why they carry them--to protect themselves from first-graders with camping equipment and sporks...
We are so fucked.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
and then its a M/S
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
Well we certainly don't want people to learn to think in school!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Nice, DG.
The Repugs are still in thrall to the whole creating-their-own-reality thing. They got away with so much shit for eight years that they can't give it up,
I'm surprised the right hasn't already ripped off and exploited the left's language/framing of: Liberal Talking Points and the Mightly Liberal Wurlitzer. And the Liberal Village is at it again.
"Republicans have lots of good ideas" on healthcare.
Must be hiding them, along with Saddam's WMDs...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I heard that too. They must be keeping them secret in Cheney's man safe.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
sounds more like a shrinkage-job .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
I think it's a Punch Hole Cloud....but others....well...just read some of the insane comments...
HA!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/13/myst...
and you were right some of the comments were hilarious.
It's almost as bad as the "NASA bombs Moon" comments...wow!
How else can you explain how a treasonous, war profiteering, 5 time draft dodger, twice convicted drunk driver, Ivy-league dropout,sleazy con-man,lie the nation into war and shoot-his friend in the face after 'only two beers' pathological liar get unlimited teevee time to spew more lies after serving as probably the worst Vice-President in U.S. history.
Just when I was starting to like Ms. Clinton again, I was listening to an old podcast when I heard someone toss out that then Senator Clinton belongs to a secretive group known as The Family. Yes, the same group that has the little C-street frat house with Ensign, Sanford, etc. I found this article in the nation that confirms it. I'm surprised we haven't heard more about her involvement:
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080331/ehrenreich
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