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By driftglass Sunday Mar 15, 2009 7:30pmDavid Gregory already hard at work preparing for next week's Meet The Press. Click image for larger. Open thread below....
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Missouri law enforcement profiling Ron Paul and Bob Barr supporters as possible terrorists? That's what a new study sanctioned by the state claims.
Domestic terrorism is a subject or discussion I'm all for having. But this 1 million people on a terrorist watch list is not a good step as far as I can tell throughout history.
http://www.kansascity.com/news/breaking_news/...
maybe not as much as you think... SOME Ron Paul and Bob Barr supporters
are the goose steppin', doc martin wearin', skinhead asshole types.
And when those types are coordinated, and carrying out whatever "missions" they are on...they tend to behave like terrorists...
I know a few folks who like Paul and Barr, but they're no nazi's, they're reasonable intelligent people. Who just happen to think govt should be run differently than I do...
They shouldn't be on any lists...
The US has the highest incarceration rate and the biggest prison population of any country in the world. With 5 percent of the world's population, the US has 25 percent of the world's prison inmates.
Ron Paul on legalizing marijuana: "... the real regulation should come from the individual, the family, the parents and the community; that's what prevents drug use, not some Federal Thug coming in with guns and arresting some kid and throwing him in prison for life."
The War on Drugs is notoriously corrupt. The government makes money in the drug trade. They destabilized communities in the eighties shipping in crack cocaine. They are protecting the poppy fields over in Afghanistan. It's a damn joke. And it needs to be stopped. And a national dialogue among the adults needs to take place. Grow Up and grow Pot. Hemp for Victory!
Nuff said.
I was surprised to hear the AG of Arizona say that 60-70% of drug gang income is from pot. Legalizing it would really take the wind out of their sales.
Ron Paul: Congress 'drinks a lot of booze,' fears legal pot
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Ron_Paul_Stephe...
who, like all idiotic anti drug people, made statements not based on fact, like, mj is the gateway drug
the war on drugs costs the country billions...and we are losing
same goes for steroids....there is no reason that adults cannot use steroids...its retarded
i like homeruns
i like hard hits in football
i wanna see a guy run the 100 meter in 7secs flat
trust me...i could take roids from now until the end of time...i will never hit a lincecum curve or fast ball
legalize, regulate, tax
treat addiction as a medical problem, not a legal one
take the savings from the drug war and invest in health care
as a cig smoker, im tired of all the taxes being piled on me
yes, i am an addict, but its just not fair
Been in Vegas less than two weeks. Cigarette prices have climbed almost two dollars a pack in that time.
The right is full of people who break a man’s legs and then complain about him not standing on his own two feet. « Various Philosophies of Cynicism
‘Confidential’ Red Cross torture report details ‘suffocation’ and head-smashing of detainees.
http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/15/red-cross...
“Suffocation by water,” “prolonged stress standing,” “beatings by use of a collar,” “confinement in a box”; this is what the Bush administration did in our name.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/opinion/15d...
"Anyone ever noticed that the "liberal media" is made up of mostly sober outlets like the AP and NPR, or left-leaning pundits that simply report with a slant, while the "conservative media" is almost ALL shouty maniacs like Beck and Limbaugh who want to declare war on the left?"
I keep thinking of the young guard who worked at Guantanamo talking about the 'trembling old man' who was terrorized there. So many innocent people were victimized for no reason.
Yet, it continues ... and it is disgraceful.
david gregory just another mouthpiece for
the gop talking points....he is a pusher
and enabler of neocon morons.
Accurate observation.
yes very thoughtful observation
for the first time ever I might add, doin the Karl Rove Rap debacle...I knew he'd thrown in with that lot, and any respect I may have ever had for him was gone before it ever there.
Number one story of Project Censored 2009 is that over 1 million Iraqi's lost their lives due to our Operation Iraqi Liberation.
http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/ca...
Project Censored #1 Top Censored Story of 2009: 'Over one million Iraqi deaths caused by U.S. occupation' (afterdowningstreet.org)
That's an extremely high percentage of their population. Extremely high. What the fuck was the point of this war again. OIL, Permanent Basis, Order out of Chaos, Shock Doctrine, Theft, Global Domination, Human Sacrifice? Yet we are ignoring it for the most... too often at least anyway. Peace.
And most of us have no clue what goes on.
Thanks for keeping up on this, Orangutan.
20% of the population displaced or injured or both.
Journalism by committee has its benefits. Trying to get it all right on your own is difficult. I appreciate the support and addition of facts. Not nearly enough people are aware of the magnitude of the deal.
That was it was about...the smokin gun mushroom cloud BS...
Interesting bit about penguin chicks whose parents don't return from gathering food (eaten by seals, etc). Shows the orphaned chicks trying to bond with parents that already have a chick, but they get rejected by those parents. Then chick-less female penguins fight, in vain, to "adopt" the chicks.
that's all that guy is. He is interested in his career.
I liked his acting, but could never understand how he and others went all weak sister after 9/11.
it was Stockholm syndrome
9/11 reduced many men to children. I am guessing that's what happened to him. I'd have to say it didn't work out real well for them though considering the record of the last eight years since then.
I think that's the goal of some psychological operations. Shock and Awe. Torture etc.
Putting the blinders on is never a good long term strategy.
Edit: Yeah Stockholm syndrome, like Truth says. That's the concept I was looking for. Much more succinct way of putting it. I was trying to describe it.
I haven't seen a specific example of this, but it would be funny if a person that wasn't afraid of their government (typical NRA member) was afraid of Al Queda hurting them. Because they feel safe that they have enough firepower to handle the Feds, it would seem odd if they were afraid of the vague threat posed by foreign terrorists.
unless Silver or Andy Garcia decided to appear.
The GOP sure loves to vote for a candidate that has a agent though. I think our pal Al is the first Hollywood office holder from the left.
Are our immigration officers dumber than a five-year old? Speaking of immigration, looks like we treat people who come here legally as well as detainees at Gitmo. Controversy ensues over the Bush library. Funny that he seems to have problem finding funding for it. I wonder why...? Pakistan finally agrees to a Supreme Court judge's return. Our cops are currently out-gunned in the War on Drugs.
maybe george could turn over his library to the
homeless for shelter and a foodbank......lol
not a chance...he will loot the poor to build
his palace of disgrace and lies.
for that look of distinction.
A touch of hemmorhoids, for that look of concern.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/eat-the-press/D...
david is handsome....
i would sleep with him and f#ck him
but TRUST ? never never never!!!!!
and i am a guy....guess i don't have good taste.....lol lol
Crappy economy means less ad revenue and less old white people to hear their rants means cancellation.
"less" is correct for general things, "fewer" is correct for specific items.
Less production. Fewer cars.
Less business. Fewer sales.
Less rain. Fewer drops.
Fewer is used with countable nouns, and less with uncountable nouns.
1 book, 2 books, 3 books (we can count)-- so we say fewer books.
Question is-- How many?
We can't/don't count water (air, sugar), so we say less water.
Questionis-- How much?
(handy to have an ESL teacher around, eh?)
I'm just heart broke about this.
Oh, less, fewer. Whatever. Interesting story regardless.
if we look at this thing real closely im sure we can reason this all out, first hes not some rube thats never been to college , hes one of you, and he does wear nice clothes, speaks clearly with good clear tones to his voice , actually goes to the john just like us, his mother loved him and fed him well ,now doesnt that make us feel good?
for Bush's monument by changing the name. I'm up for suggestions, such as the GWB Institute of Failure.
YouTube: George W. Bush wastewater treatment plant
I don't think so!
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2009/031509.html
[Deleted. T--, I can't begin to tell how angry it makes me that you have posted this in direct violation not only of our rules, but rules that were explained to you and by which you agreed to abide. And that I had to listen to it to ascertain that it was magic building crap. I know you've been slipping it in here and there, but this is the straw-Sitemonitor]
[To the poster who commented on this: It should be clear to you by my message to Orangutan that this topic is best discussed at sites that specialize in it. If you repost your query, you will be banned]
I am teeter tottering on reality, I want the C&L to be real. Alex Jones could possibly be the real? I take it all in, I am confused.
I am sure that is what they want. I heard Jones today saying Fox news is crap and Glen Beck is an ass.
http://www.infowars.com/audiobox.html
Same show may still be running.
I am watching ATM, http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=75357...
Obama Deception. It is believable, because I still have these mother fuckers following me where ever I go, they screw with me, prolong things that should only take a short time. Draging me into court constantly, over charging me for electric and cable. Hacking my PC continually.
I say Kucinich was the real one, I am still weary of Ron Paul.
What I see on you tube, the recent videos before they are pulled and/or buried makes me think Alex Jones maybe right.
Alex is for surely going threw even more torcher and mental harassment than I. that would make me understand even more his craziness. I don't understand why he is simply a info-warrior, why isn't he trying to focus his efforts into taking a state? I think the only way us to succeed from the us, start your own state and union.
What ever, we suck, I think Obama is sucking, we will all see, then what, Kucinich will be too old.
I simply want to play video games on a pro level on pc and smoke pot, while I make my body and mind healthy, but they won't let me. Why don't they kill me? Is it more fun for them to harass me into lunacy? man fuck this, C&L, Mr. Amato take it, give up the money give us the pure uncensored truth, take a chance stand for our county our lives our children.
maybe you should lay off the weed a bit...let that brain get some MUCH needed oxygen...cause...dayum..
Uh, smart guy I was actually drunk. If I had weed I probably wouldn't be flippin.
I love M.C. Escher. This was nicely done. Thank you.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/mar/15/w...
The suspect allegedly painted "Living in hotel. Money running out. Nowhere to live" on nearby wall.
Moody's - one of the big 3 credit rating agencies with an official government endorsement - helped cause the financial crisis by keeping the ratings of failing companies artificially high.
Moody's shareholders are now suing in federal court, saying that Moody's misrepresented the fact that its ratings are impartial. Once it became clear that Moody's was gaming its ratings, its share price plunged - 75% since February 2007.
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2009/03...
the ratings agency that went under a few years ago? Was it an accounting agency?
the accounting firm for Enron.
Changed their name to Accenture. Enron went out of business after screwing over tons of people in California, employees, retirees, and shareholders and was most likely responsible for the recall of Democratic Gov. Gray Davis due to the manufactured energy crisis there.
Enron was a big player in the fake energy crisis on the West Coast. They were selling energy on the West Coast for 5 to 10 times what it is worth. How does a company not make money when they are robbing people blind? Where the hell did all the money go? When they busted Enron the company should of had tens of billions of dollars sitting around.
It seems like the Feds allowed the same type of mistakes to be made through not learning from the past. Moody's was paid by the banks to rate their investments. The peanut company paid an firm to rate its products. Is it any surprise that the companies made their clients look good?
And the media does not hold this man responsible or accountable...
Cheney on CNN: Obama has made America 'less safe'
Unbelievable that an international war criminal can go on air and call out our current President for making us less safe and no one calls him out on his role in 9/11, torture, or the Anthrax attacks. We live in a backwards world. We're in the twilight zone fool and we need to dig ourselves out.
Bush was totally a Bizzaro president.
because dickie-boy was the real president.
Of course, Bush is ultra-bizzaro to begin with. There are some freaky genes in that family. Pappy and Babs spawned truly evil offspring.
How nice that Babs just got a new pig valve implanted in her chest. In a way, it is quite appropriate.
he kept us safe, except for the anthrax.
What more do you want? He was a war president, what to be a peace president. Please don't tell me you want him to have read those PDBs.
well, and the wars. And the economic meltdown. And the scorn of the rest of the world...
Why is John King having Dick Cheney as a guest? Why is this asshole war crimial getting more facetime on TV? I don't get it.
What a shame NBC put a wimpy, ball-less twit like David Gregory up to doing a job only a man like Tim Russert could handle. Hell, even the interim guy, Tom Brokaw, was better than this geek.
think Russert was unbiased. He was as right wing as Lou Dobbs and possibly even Hannity or BillO.
Yeah I'd like to see a real journalist have access to these assholes. A modern day Mike Wallace like Luke Rudkowski. A mad man like Alex Jones. A cool calm and collected truth advocate like Barrie Zwicker. Anyone who would ask real Questions of these Asshats. Rosie O'Donnell would make for a better journalist than these corporate clowns. Robert Wanek has more balls than these grown ass men. Thom Hartmann would be good. Mike Malloy would be entertaining. We need real journalists.
1) where would you find a journalist?
2) where would you find a repug willing to face real scrutiny?
March 16, is the day when Rachel Corrie was murderd in Israel. R.I.P
And recently an Israeli soldier shoots American in the face with tear gas
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Video_of_Americ...
Michael “Savage” Weiner Predicts a “Reichstag fire-like event”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMfZ7czIIWY
This is strange.
the towers are gone?
On the supra-national groups such as:
The Bilderberg Group
The Council on Foreign Relations
The Trilateral Commission
Or are these above scrutiny. Let's make an honest effort to bring transparency to government. With the internet we have a real opportunity here. No more excuses on that front. Do the research. Ask Questions. Demand Answers. It ain't that hard.
Fox Admits To Planting Political Brainwashing In Popular TV Shows
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiMaILygSjk
The Economy PURPOSELY Destroyed By Globalists
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34DRsn21Z30
Sad when the best and most honest indepth interview was on a comady channel..
As a lefty in El Salvador wins the election.
He's allowed another tsunami-sized disaster to hit New York in its place!
one of my fav writers will be on...neil gaiman
not really sure how colbert is gonna riff on him...neil has a pretty good sense of humor, is pretty apolitical, and is just an all around nice guy
Creator, right?
Well, all the news sucked today, and was irksome. And I'm bushed. Why am I not surprised? Maybe we should make an anger warning system.
Red alert-- if you're pissed already, stay out, you'll blow a gasket.
Orange alert-- just another day at "the office" (that's here, C&L)
Yellow alert-- fluff only day, gum-drops and ponies for all.
Kind of like the terror warnings. (There will never be a ponies for all day.)
Cya tomorrow.
http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/ind...
Shameless use of a great artwork. But then, art was always a good political tool and shame never seems to be a consideration. It does tickle me though when they totally miss the point like when a president in campaigning, used "Born in the USA" which is obviously a song that wasn't born from national pride.
Robin, of Music for Adverts (producers of Royalty Free Music)
Robert Reich posted the best commentary on the AIG scandal... and this REALLY is a scandal!... and I agree with him 100%. Here it is in total:
Don't we own 80% of AIG? If that's the case, why isn't the government taking over its operation, INCLUDING THE PAYMENT OF BONUSES TO LOSERS WHO LOST MONEY!
The "Nationalization" argument is meaningless if, without federal control, we are throwing tax money into the pockets of the people who made the problem in multi-million dollar handfuls.
I keep hearing the "too big to fail" argument and I keep thinking that the only thing too big to fail is the United States of America... and we know from the history of countries going down the centuries that WE CAN FAIL, TOO. Nothing or no one is too big to fail.
We voted the Republicans out of office across the board because they FAILED. We expected that EVERYTHING would be approached in a different manner. Let's get to it.
Under The LobsterScope
except, no one in the so-called "enlightened liberal blogisphere" wants to take on the truly difficult stories. i mean, look at what's been dominating the headlines in the last week:
JIM CRAMER vs. JON STEWART (oooh, snap!)
LAURA INGRAHAM vs. MEGHAN McCAIN (i know she didn't!)
ARI FLEISHER vs. CHRIS MATTHEWS (hell, naw!)
TUCKER CARLSON vs. JON STEWART (damn, i heard that!)
and: BRITTNEY WANTS YOU TO F%CK HER -SHE EVEN MADE A VIDEO SAYING SO!!
i wish george carlin were here to dres down kos, arianna huffington and all the other self-righteous latte liberal gatekeepers. they thumb their noses at CBS, CNN or FOX, even as they themselves are either too spineless or too clueless to focus on what's important.
the financial crisis was probably orchestrated, we need an independent investigation into the day that shall go unmentioned, we need to put the torturers on trial, we need to get out of iraq and afghanistan, etc., etc.
but all i've been seeing in the headlines in the last week are theses inane, childish articles about talking heads and celebrities squabbling and playing patty cakes.
i'm tired of wasting my time -my country is filled to the brim with lazy-minded cowards, who are easily hypnotized -and it usually doesn't take much more than a twinkie.
think i'll go bury my head in the sand for a while -i've been wondering what all the fuss is about...
ciao.
on your way out.
You won't be missed.
I don't think I've ever done an ex Disney/ABC/ESPN/Touchstone/Miramax employee before! Wait, maybe I have and just didn't know it...
She was referring to me...
Positive Thinking, Al Gore tells Guardian he's confident that climate deal will be achieved. Gore on 'Green New Deal'
- http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/14/a...
Scientists at Copenhagen summit issue desperate plea for world leaders to fight climate change. Global warming could cut world population to 1 billion, scientist warns
- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/environme...
Culture of Corruption/Republican Hypocrisy Update: S.C. Governor Mark Sanford Won't Accept Recovery Money to Help the Unemployed, but the Citizens of South Carolina Pay His Salary as He Puts His Beachfront Home up for Sale for $3.5 Million!
- http://www.thestate.com/local/story/715331.html
Key House Democrat: AIG "Trying to Play the American People for Fools." Recall the Loan, Prosecute the Guilty at AIG, And Cut Off Their Salaries and Bonuses.
- http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/...
AIG is the poster child for what is wrong with this country...
Following the A.I.G. Money -NYT Editorial - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/opinion/15s...
"The bailouts of American International Group are also rescues of its trading partners — banks and other financial firms — that would have lost out if the insurer had been allowed to fail. But even after four bailouts between last September and this March, no one knows with certainty who those partners are or how much of the bailout money, now totaling $160 billion, has gone to make them whole.
And that is not necessarily the whole story. In the manic years of this decade, credit default swaps took off as a way to bet on the likelihood of default by a firm or an investment portfolio, without having to own any financial interest in the firm or portfolio. That is definitely not insurance, it is gambling."
Why you don't run the world like its a corporation: A.I.G. Planning $165 Million in Bonuses After Huge Bailout - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/business/15...
"The American International Group, which has received more than $170 billion in taxpayer bailout money from the Treasury and Federal Reserve, plans to pay about $165 million in bonuses by Sunday to executives in the same business unit that brought the company to the brink of collapse last year.
The bonuses will be paid to executives at A.I.G.’s financial products division, the unit that wrote trillions of dollars’ worth of credit-default swaps that protected investors from defaults on bonds backed in many cases by subprime mortgages."
Top A.I.G. Recipients of Taxpayer Money Were Overseas Banks - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29714402/
Checking in from Bizarro world, Cheney: Obama detainee policies make US less safe - http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/A...
Zionism is the problem - http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentar...
To be Jewish, I was raised to believe, meant understanding oneself as a member of a tribe that over and over had been cast out, mistreated, slaughtered. Millenniums of oppression that preceded it did not entitle us to a homeland or a right to self-defense that superseded anyone else's. If they offered us anything exceptional, it was a perspective on oppression and an obligation born of the prophetic tradition: to act on behalf of the oppressed and to cry out at the oppressor.
For the last several decades, though, it has been all but impossible to cry out against the Israeli state without being smeared as an anti-Semite, or worse. To question not just Israel's actions, but the Zionist tenets on which the state is founded, has for too long been regarded an almost unspeakable blasphemy.
Yet it is no longer possible to believe with an honest conscience that the deplorable conditions in which Palestinians live and die in Gaza and the West Bank come as the result of specific policies, leaders or parties on either side of the impasse.
The problem is fundamental: Founding a modern state on a single ethnic or religious identity in a territory that is ethnically and religiously diverse leads inexorably either to politics of exclusion (think of the 139-square-mile prison camp that Gaza has become) or to wholesale ethnic cleansing. Put simply, the problem is Zionism.
Voter ID as voter suppression? - http://www.southernstudies.org/2009/03/suppre...
"Passing voter ID legislation is quickly becoming one of the GOP's top issues for the 2009 legislative session...Georgia lawmakers have also been leading the second wave of voter ID restrictions. There have been several proof-of-citizenship bills introduced in Georgia so far this session...
Voting rights advocates have long argued that voter fraud is statistically insignificant to the point of being nonexistent...Instead, voting rights advocates point out that what has been proven time and time again, is that the risk of voter disenfranchisement stemming from voter ID is much more real than any voter fraud the laws are meant to prevent."
Plantation politics at its lowest....
Obama Takes a New Course, for the Good, at the U.N. - http://ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=46093
Must Read: Wal-Mart, Wall Street and W: Three W's That Sank the American Economy and Boosted China -- The BuzzFlash Editor's Blog by Mark Karlin
- http://buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/200
Our Aging Infrastructure May be Deadly. Take Mass., for Example. - http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusett...
Obama Seeks to Improve Food Safety - http://voices.washingtonpost.com/44/2009/03/1...
Oh no....not regulation, I want the 'market' to be in charge of deciding if they can poison us...
Protect Our Waters Coalition formed to ensure the ecological and hydrological integrity of Mt. Shasta’s unique headwater areas for future generations.
- http://protectourwaters.org/
Undoing Cheney's dirty dealings...
Tomgram: Robert Dreyfuss, The Freeman Affair - http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175046
Thus began a firestorm of commentary, debate, and argument in the mainstream media about, among other things, the very existence of an "Israel lobby."
Below, Robert Dreyfuss, who writes the Nation's Dreyfuss Report blog and is the author of Devil's Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam, offers a powerful, needed assessment of what the Freeman affair may mean for the Obama administration and American policy in the Middle East.
Bolivia Passes Land from Rich to Poor - http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2009/03/14/new...
Emboldened by a new leftist constitution, Bolivia President Evo Morales on Saturday handed over ownership of farmland seized by the state from wealthy estate holders to poor indigenous people.
Morales handed out around 94,000 acres of lands recently confiscated from five big ranches in Bolivia's wealthy eastern lowlands, a stronghold of his conservative political opponents. The ranchers have been accused of employing workers in conditions of semi-slavery.
Jim Hightower: As for the GOP, “No” is not an economic plan. Neither is hypocrisy - http://jimhightower.com//node/6758
Frank Rich: The Culture Warriors Get Laid Off - NYTimes - http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/opinion/15r...
What we already knew (Paul Krugman, I told you so moment): Report: Democrats in the US Congress are drawing up plans for a second stimulus bill amid fears the first $787 billion package was not big enough to kick start the US economy.
- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetop...
McConnell Bumbles When Asked For GOP Alternative To Obama’s Budget: We’re ‘Getting Down In The Weeds’
- http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/15/mcconnell...
War on Progressive Radio: Another Progressive Radio Station, This One in Ann Arbor, Bites the Dust - http://ltradio.blogspot.com/2009/03/wlbyann-a...
Its not a conspiracy, if its happening in broad daylight....
Researchers Say 9-second Charging Battery Within 2-Years - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/resea...
Maldives to Be First Carbon Neutral Country - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/maldi...
"Filthy Fifteen" Fly-Ash Producing US States Named By Natural Resources Defense Council - http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/03/filth...
Hooray for idiotic Georgia!
Bill Maher vs Teacher's Union... - Democratic Underground - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...
Another forum - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/...
Maher went off the deep end on this one....the blame needs to be directed where it should always start, in the home, with the parents, they brought the child into the world, its their responsibility to ensure they succeed....
Bill Maher Has Got It Wrong - http://www.no-one-owns-me.dailykos.com/storyo...
Thanks for that perspective.
On March 16, 1968, during the Vietnam War, the My Lai Massacre was carried out by United States troops under the command of Lt. William L. Calley Jr.
http://www.nytimes.com/learning/general/onthi...
and on this day, some US servicemen took their oaths seriously and then turned their guns on Calley and others.
Hugh Thompson Jr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai#Helicopte...
I see in my crysal balls
I need a girlfriend.
If you can see through your balls, you might need a new doctor too...
Just saw one on last Friday the 13th.
He wore an hockey mask.
Actually troops were under the command of Captain Medena. Calley was only a platoon leader.
http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftri...
thanks for that post. Thompson is one my heros too.
But he had to pay a severe price.
There are people who still to this day consider him to be a traitor.
He had to leave his birth-town, parents, boyhoods friends to start over in new towns.
I think he's had to move more than once, once people found out who he was.
Heroism isn't always rewarded.
yes, that is true.
more often than not, it is the cover-up artists and the whitewashers that are rewarded.
ahem, cough, cough, Powell, cough, cough.
Obama Admin - Gitmo detainees have no Constitutional rights
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Obama_administr...
sounds almost Cheney-esque.
So much for the value of dropping that "enemy combatant" phrase.
I guess it was just for lefty feel-goodism.
Court documents were filed Friday by Obamas lawyers arguing that Gitmo detainees have no constitutional rights. Also in the brief Obamas lawyers argue that Rumsfeld and other officers should be immune from prosecution because' detainees right not to be tortured was not clearly established. This is just more of the same old shit, and something I didn't vote for.
If the Constitution only protects citizens that would be true, but only in the narrowest interpretation.
Generally the Constitution doesn't refer to the rights of citizens in the police and court procedural articles, but the accused, so a broader reading is possible.
Additionally, the third article gives the Supreme Court the power to enforce international treaties, which would presumably include the Geneva Convention.
but Obama isn't going to use the phrase "enemy combatant" anymore.
Isn't that some Change?
Prisoners.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Its_official_Re...
Now lets see what Obama does with this revelation....
If he does nothing?????
Come on Obama supporters, if he does nothing?
Been watching a police "drama" for the last half hour here at my motel in Las Vegas. Four squad cars, seven cops and one guy in his boxers in handcuffs sitting on the curb. Hmmm...
Mike Tyson?
Some skinny white guy. Probably had a bud or $20 worth of dope. Or maybe scammed a nickel slot machine...
Update--down to two cars, four cops. And the guy is still sitting on the curb in cuffs...
Cuffs and collars match?
Wife-beater shirt and steel...
...must be rolling in his grave. I spit on you, driftglass.
what drifty did to an Escher lithograph?
what miss kitty said. Go pull that freshman art appreciation textbook off your shelf and have another look. The intro should point out that art is art, and it's ALL derivative of the cave drawings.
Driftglass is the best photoshopper on the web, period, and shares Escher's attention to detail and OCD precision (I say that as a compliment, DG).
Why aren’t there surveys done on the numbers of stupid/ignorant people in the U.S. or in the world??!!
What does corrupted authority has to hide or admit??!!
btw: IQ test doesn’t determine stupidity/ignorance
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