Sam Seder Talks To Letterman Protesters
By Nicole Belle Thursday Jun 18, 2009 10:00amOur buddy, Sam Seder, decided to go check out the protest talk show hack (and professional potty-mouthed angry person) John Ziegler organized to take David Letterman off the air in light of his joke about Sarah Palin's daughter, a joke for which he had already apologized twice.
Give Sam credit. It wasn't easy to find those whole fifteen protesters amongst the sea of media covering them. I'm not sure that your protest can be considered effective if the media outnumbers the protesters by more than 2 to 1. Way to try to horn in on the media circus that surrounds Palin, Ziegler.
(T)o show you the lengths Ziegler will go for his point, check out this convoluted logic in explaining the hypocrisy of going after Letterman and not other media figures. When asked why the protest took a week to happen, Ziegler asked, "Why did David Letterman take a week to apologize?" When Air America, in more of an accusation that a question, remarked that Sarah Palin went on Saturday Night Live in 2008 a week after they had aired a skit which said that Tod (sic) Palin had slept with his daughter, Ziegler pointed out that skit was set in a New York Times staff meeting where the paper's staff was considering topics to write, so it was essentially a satire on what the Times might publish to discredit her, not Saturday Night Live saying this directly of Gov. Palin.
So this was more about attacking David Letterman and CBS than in some crusade to go after "perverts." And as Keith Olbermann pointed out, the amount of time for Letterman's apology was a matter of 3 or so hours, not a week. It sounds like Ziegler graduated magna cum laude from the Palin school of upholding responsibility.
The timing of Ziegler's latest round of publicity appears to be tied in with his return to radio in Los Angeles this month, almost as if he got involved to promote his revitalized radio career. But when you look at his track record, it's a wonder that even in the world of conservative talk radio that he keeps getting hired.
Ahhhh...so the real agenda comes out. Well, Ziegler, Freedom of Speech is a wonderful thing. You're free to make an ass out of yourself and others are free to start a FireJohnZiegler.com site to show you for the ass you are.
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Wow...Letterman prostestors...
That's news I guess...what's goin on in Iran?
What's the latest with the minuteman terrorist assassinations?
Who CARES about these idiots?
... in this clip, presents classic symptoms of mental illness.
I'm so sick of these psychos
It has nothing to do with the Joke...it's payback by for all the times Letterman made fun of Bush and Chenney
Talk about trailer trash, this must be their convention.
...when Rush Limbaugh was telling jokes about Chelsea Clinton?
Didn't you get the memo? It's okay if they do it.
that day. They were watching Hannity and O'Reilly.
This is great! These people are comical, even as they try their best to be ever so serious! I watched the video before I read the accompanying info about it. I should have known Ziegler had something to do with this!! What a loser this guy is! The more he does this kind of stuff, the more we laugh and it looks bad for whoever will sanction, promote, and support Ziegler's causes! More power to ya, John!!
What's so hilarious about making fun of people who clearly have some emotional or mental problems? It doesn't make him funny (or hilarious), it makes him a "shmuck"!
Listen doofus, unless you can perform a psychoanalysis through your computer you're just another apologist. Somewhere within these people's lives they chose to be ignorant...so fuck em! And you too.
... that it takes a psychoanalysis to figure out, that people who actually believe Letterman should be fired for making a joke have a serious emotional or mental issue??
Those people already make fools of themselfs with their silly little protest! And for Seder to go to them and ridicule them even further simply isn't funny (imho). If anything it's mean.
I agree with Corgano. These people are being used by the Palins and Limbaughs of the world. I don't see the point in showing that they are fools, it is already obvious. I also thought that the bit about "but aren't you just as bad because you are telling me the bad jokes that Letterman told" was just a bit of sophistry. This whole thing is a distraction from issues that really matter.
Effed up big time when they gave a show to Ed Shultz and not Mr. Seder.
Ed is not bad...come on
but he's not sam seder.
There is still room for Seder. Tweety is on twice and Olbermann is on twice a night. I'm sure Sam could fill in very nicely in one of Tweety's spots.
I'm a big fan of Sam Seder since his days on the Majority Report. I really think he's a genuinely nice guy and miss him a lot. I'd be so happy if MSNBC gave him a show.
Seder should not have mocked the lady reading whatever transcripts she had as trying to tell offensive jokes. That tact was not smart, and she turned it right back on him.
If you're going to expose these haters, be smart and let them talk. Don't try to mock them. Simply point out the obvious. That will unnerve them to no end.
ya she really turned it back on him when she mentioned ACORN
That showed how it had nothing to do with the joke, and it's a bunch of wingnuts trying to get Letterman
seder exposed her rather quickly. when questioned/challenged she went to name calling. some people
can't take a joke and some can't except an apology.
I agree with you. Despite being a liberal, I thought that tactic overtly wanky.
Were we watching the same clip? Since when flipping out and going off the deep end equates to "turning" anything right back on anyone?
If anything, the idiot lady just went into psycho overdrive mode... so I think the tactic worked pretty well. It was awkward as sh*t, but that is more a function of how utterly nuts the lady is/was.
I'll concede that the more she spoke, the more nuts she got.
I'm just saying that you don't need to take a 'tit-for-tat' stance with someone who is so wrong. Just letting express their opinions is incriminating enough without looking antagonistic.
Agreed she got crazier as she went on, and descended on schedule into personal attacks. But Seder trying to make it out that she was telling offensive jokes when she was reading from some document was petty. Not that any of the rightards who agree with these nuts is going to watch this video anyway.
Oh, noes somebody managed to cast a rightwinger in a bad light. That is not nice, somebody call the PC police. Everybody knows god kills a kitten when a rightwinger is mocked!
I'm not defending the rightards, Tyler. I'm simply pointing out that if you want to really expose these folks in a manner that does not drop to their level, don't try to be clever with them. I consider Seder a professional, but this particular exchange was (to me) not the right tact. The bulk of the video was well done.
overanalyzing the whole exchange way too much.
Seder was simply pointing out their hypocrisy. I just think it is counterproductive for people to waste their time worrying about hurting the sensitivities of people who would have us march into a gas chamber if they had the chance.
It just stuck out to me. In all fairness, Seder is flying by his seat with these encounters. I don't mean to be hard on him. Seder nailed her hypocrisy, or she nailed herself. And yeah, they are real haters.
... to his credit, I don't think I could have remained *that* calm when interacting vis-a-vis with that crowd of nutjobs.
Their hate and sheer lack of anything resembling rationality frankly scares the sh*t out of me. And now that they are taking to their guns, even more...
Thu, 06/18/2009 - 12:12 — Trantorian
I consider Seder a professional, but this particular exchange was (to me) not the right tact.
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Tactic or track.
I have tat if you got the tits.
He was just pointing out the fallacy of their own twisted logic. That's what Sam does.
It wasn't really an effective line anyway.
Still, it DID bring up the goods! Trained by ACORN! HAHAHAHAHA!
Big momma displayed a real nasty attitude. If some blind quadriplegic would just have sex with her she wouldn't bother protesting Letterman's nasty jokes. And the young woman must be a out of work comedy writer.
She sounded just like Kyle's mom! "What, what, WHAT???"
I thought I was the only one who noticed that :-D
lets play Twister!
Teh stupid...it hurts!
These ignorant, Right Wing-NutO's should watch themselves make complete dumb-asses of themselves. It's hard to believe these idiots can wipe their dirty assholes by themselves. I'm still laughing at the obviously braindead Reslug telling us a supposed joke.
whoa, hold on there. no apology needed to a trailer park trash who happens to be physically pretty, dumb, but physically pretty and gov of alaska. I used to like leno better than letterman, but that was only because we used to watch leno and we got used to his varioous skits. But it was always evident to me that Letterman was more of a liberal activist in that he didn't pull his punches. Jay was always kind of a fence sitter. not strong enough in his political opinions or maybe he just didn't have any. I doubt that, was he worried about alienating his right wing section of the audience or perhaps getting fired. well, he was anyway so what was there to lose. Dave stuck it to rush as well as many other mindless conservatives and now it's time to support him...all of us.
probably thought about how the Obama children felt when Sarah Palin constantly referred to their father as "palling around with terrorists". Or worse, they probably thought it was OK.
Exactly. Or when they called his wife "anti-American" because she actually pointed out that we're not perfect.
Or when that S. Carolina Repug DePass called Michelle a gorilla.
Anyone else tired of reading the "And this is news???" comments.
Start your own blog already.
Has Palin commented on this yet? I'd say it was pretty damaging having these folks spew in front of cameras. I only wish they did it every day...
Go ahead
It started sliding when Carrot Top did his first set, but it was fait accompli when Dane Cook recorded his first Comedy Central special. So I'll go with the year 2000. AD, that is.
When the $7 pen joke was considered funny.
What was up with that?
That "joke" was painful
I love Mitch Hedberg's comedy-that girl told his joke in the most unfunniest manner possible!
Yeah, I don't even know what to say about her. Mitch Hedberg material with that crazy hate, straight face. Weird.
... Mitch Hedgberg was a f*cking genius. Obviously the joke flew like a space shuttle over the head of the idiot in the video.
When asked why the protest took a week to happen, Ziegler asked, "Why did David Letterman take a week to apologize?"
God I wish this guy would hurry up and apologize so I can launch a protest against him...
Are they out protesting U.S. Cruise Missiles annihilating innocent people in our imperialistic foreign adventures abroad?
I'm sure they will protest Leno, Conan, Maher and all the other comedians who made jokes of Palin and her angels.
on earth apparently.
What are the chances we could get more people at a "joke" protest to fire Ziegler than he could get at the "real" protest to fire Letterman?
I agree with RD-how come CnL gets in trouble for posting this kind of stuff?! It's pertinent-it shows the far right in this country in their true colors. What's so bad about having some laughs about the right? They would do the same.
Hilarious to hear the Reslug bedwetting, crybaby sheep bleating complete uneducated, ignorant nonsense as usual.
Sure, he made a nasty joke. But this has more to do with how he thrashed McCain, and O'Reiley last year. He's a known enemy and they'd like to take him out.
to the world.
Who? Letterman or the Ziegler operatives?
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geez guy,
I don't know Evet from a troll because I don't post here often. That statement by evet, could be construed either way if you don't know who is being targeted.
contribute to your fund to purchase a sense of humor...
I always cry when Liberals hurt each other. Direct the prickishness at a conservative already.
... who do I make the check out to?
Thu, 06/18/2009 - 12:25 — RD
Like Sam Seder did?
people get a little excited around here.
And sometimes, with her, you DO gotta ask...
No offense intended Evet. I write the same.
Thu, 06/18/2009 - 11:28 — RD
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It has to do with ziegler relaunching his career
With hopes of helping sarah relaunch hers
And he probably already sees himself as press secretary.
They're just frustrated tea baggers. Since there are no tea parties going on now they decided to do this little bit of nothing.
The chick chewing the gum like a cow chewing cud, might have known a joke but she can't tell one. Doubt Colbert will be chasing her down to write for his show.
"He also called Letterman's apology — issued on Monday's program and accepted by Palin — bogus and said that the comedian should make a charitable donation to an organization of Palin's choosing."--http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/06/16/letterman-protest-draws-more-media-than-activists/
I think Letterman should make a donation to Planned Parenthood in Sarah Palin's name.
i don't know if he could do that but that would be funny.......ok funny to me. i personally can't stand palin she's a fraud. it concerns me that many americans bought her bullshxt.
Does ACORN accept donations?
Sarin and the nazi and the pedo and all the butthurt repubs should join in with all the butthurt Israelis for a chorus of "our butts, they are a'hurtin" while clutching their posteriors.
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the restrooms
Or troll in the stalls
For we are the victims
As we stand appalled
There's a culture war,
And it's certain.
It'll soon fill your TV
With punditry's call
For our butts, they are a' hurtin'
Does it make you feel better or worse to know that someone with the intellect of a peanut can be "elected" prez of the United states and another with a like intellect can achieve the governorship of alaska? Does that make you feel better because you know you're smarter than both of them or worse for the same reason. Myself, i feel much worse.
I guess, I suppose . . maybe in another 2000 years the human intellect will evolve beyond modern barbarism.
Don't forget, there is no evolution.
We are stuck with barbarism.
These people have about as much chance of getting Letterman fired as we did of getting bush impeached and we had a way better case.
What great comedy! "Umm I dunno I only watch Fox News"
I see top ten lists for many years to come from these misguided saps. The pen joke was a joke! Absolutely hysterical!
I would love to be in the Writer's room for Letterman right now. OMG too funny
This is obviously a small group (15 I hear) of losers who are making fools of themselves and if they are seen in other countries, are making fools of Americans. They are hideous, small minded lower class peons, I'm sure of the same ilk who voted for Geroge W.
(P.S.They are ugly suckers as well....)
these unfortunate souls isn't it?
unfortunate souls or ass souls?
Why is this still in the propaganda agenda.
was groomed as a "Leftist" operative by Acorn to infiltrate conservative protests and target angry house wives from Queens.
Will these Liberals stop at northing?I mean nothing?
or Maybe Obama said look we have a mission for you.
... making jokes about a pedophile, with making jokes about pedophilia.
Leave it to the "pro-life" crowd to use innocent children to protect the "honor" of child raping priests, and the promiscuous slutty teens of right wing fundie mums.
That $7 pen joke!! Hahahahahaha !!
I can barely type, I'm laughing so hard. I mean, I can barely breathe - I think I'm having a heart attack.
Hahahaha!! My chest - call 911!!
I didn't get it. I still don't get it.
She does a whole sub routine about pencils that really kills as well.
I actually tried to figure out the pen joke. If he had to buy a new one dollar pen every day, then buying a seven dollar pen would mean that it would last seven days? Is that it in a weird warped sort of way?
I do not believe I spent that much time thinking about it. Forgive me!
I went back to the videotape and reviewed the pen "joke", and I think I get it. See, she loses pens all the time, and was tired of not caring (about losing the pens), so she bought an expensive ($7) pen, so that when she lost it she would care. See, she was tired of not caring.
Now, I don't care.
Oh, okay! Now I get it and I'm breathless from laughing. No, seriously I am. My sides are hurting from all the laughter. No seriously they are.
"I do not believe I spent that much time thinking about it. Forgive me!"
I guess you're now feeling a little....wait for it....pensive?
(sorry)
Does that make you "penitent"?
I can go on all night!
a tad "pent up" I must say.
want to release all of my pen tup emotions.
These comments are surely better than her joke. :)
yours is better.
or maybe ex pensive?
I'm reaching I'll admit.
I don't get it either.
You really need to hear the crayon bit from her first album. Cutting edge comedy, I tell ya!
Did she win on The Biggest Joker, sponsored by Smith Funeral Home?
...when she cracked up the contestant in record time just by uttering Burnt Umber.
Those were the days! Good times.....*sigh*
It was Periwinkle, not Burnt Umber.
How did I forget that?
You said Periwinkle.
gay.
It's got a "P" sound and a "K" sound! And "-winkle"! Periwinkle is comedy gold!
Actually I agree.
Great word.
If you can work tinkle and periwinkle into the same joke, you got yourself a belly buster laugh magnet.
Periwinkle IS a great word...
Not as good as debauchery though...CLOSE...but not quite.
Try this mantra:
Pussy. Panties. Epiglottis.
it's one of my most favert words!
And Do like that mantra though...
But it's all in the delivery. See Wallace Shawn in Heaven Help Us.
And "inconceivable", too, also dependent on Wallace Shawn's delivery.
Mine is antiantidisestablishmentarianism.
It's enough to make you cry uncle
Or even:
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
n/t
I remember in grade school when a friend of mine and I would try to impress other friends by asking them what was the longest word in the world, and the answer was "antiantidisestablishmentarianism"! Don't know if it is or was, but we thought we were smart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzwGfP98vGM
Periwinkle is a beautiful color too, one of my favorites.
About 20 seconds in.
The only thing missing from that was someone verbally linking to a youtube video.
Something up that alley at about 1:40...And LOLCats!
Teh funny, Andy!
She's into leather.
Actually that was hilarious!
To have someone tell a joke with an angry bitter butter face sour attitude for the second time! That's priceless!
as if she was saying laugh damn it, before I bust your face! As if you were at gun point and your laugh was dependent on being able to laugh at such a terrible joke. What do you do?
There have to be some kind of study need to be done on how CEO thought the half hour new show had any chance in hell to be funny, and then get back to the fated pen joke. It's a bodysnatcher moment, and alien inhabiting these bodies think the pen joke is universally funny! Because I know of no human on earth personally could laugh at that joke, it's humanly impossible.
Another four years and their won't be any competition left in things that really matter. Don't follow the herd.
Where are the black, hispanic, asian and presumably gay and non-Christian protesters?
Same ole nutter tea bagging Palin supporters.
I think these people are pissed off about inbreeding, which they seem to be a product of.
I think that guy pissed his wife off when he admitted they would have gone to the show but they couldn't get tickets.
Letterman like most Americans and the overwhelming majority of the free world did not like Bush That's what this is all about. Period.
gov. palin will always be joke. the extreme right can frame it any way they want. they joke is on them. letterman isn't going anywhere. these people are being used again.
it is equally amazing about why he continually gets fired for making overtly racist comments on air. His self-proclaimed expertise on the O.J Simpson case and other "black" criminals seems to excite him with almost sexual fervor. It says something about right wing talk radio that this giant rectal boil gets fired for going over the line when most of us haven't ever seen a line they wouldn't cross.
These people seem to remind me of the inbreds waiting in line at Palin rallies during the campaign shouting about how Obama was a Muslim terrorst and flaunting stuffed animal monkeys with his name on them,....hmmm,..hey! wait a minute,..!!
Let's compare Iran to Dave...in a city of 8 million, Ziegler is able to ramp up between 15 and 40 "protesters", who were guaranteed massive media coverage (some state the media OUTNUMBERED the protesters) with no real repercussions. In Iran, a country of 65 million, some 500,000 protesters risk arrest, torture and imprisonment just to protest with the hope of getting a 140 character Twitter message out of the country. Kind of makes Ziegler look like a tiny, pathetic little man, doesn't it?
BTW, I can't confirm it (but THAT never stops Faux News) but I heard on the TV machine that Ziegler showed up, saw the puny crowd of "protesters" and jumped back into his cab.
Let's compare Iran to Dave...in a city of 8 million, Ziegler is able to ramp up between 15 and 40 "protesters", who were guaranteed massive media coverage (some state the media OUTNUMBERED the protesters) with no real repercussions. In Iran, a country of 65 million, some 500,000 protesters risk arrest, torture and imprisonment just to protest with the hope of getting a 140 character Twitter message out of the country. Kind of makes Ziegler look like a tiny, pathetic little man, doesn't it?
It does. It also makes us, as a nation, look pathetic that this is what people get angry about. While many Iranians are risking losing their lives to protest, this trivial, childish episode between two famous, wealthy people is getting an equal amount of media coverage as the Iran crisis.
Letterman's joke was tasteless (and honestly, not that funny), but not worth protesting about. Another question to Letterman...why pick on Palin anyway? She's just the governor of Alaska now. She didn't win the Vice Presidency (thank goodness). It's not 2008 anymore!
It wouldn't surprise me if Ziegler split after seeing the puny protest.
D-E-N-T-I-S-T
Don't spell in front of the children.
Next thing, you'll be expecting them to do basic math.
My son-in-law is a dentist and says that he would strongly recommend she go to see a veterinarian.
When you can gather a dozen or so people you know you have a serious cause. I bet Letterman has more people than that on his staff.
enSIGN will be the next joke for the party of family values. i'll bet there's more than infidelity$.
"She and her husband both worked on my staff" TMI
I'm baaaack...
Sorry, I was on a pornography break.
I just found this over at Daily Kos
"If there are any Olive Garden fans out there, know that they decided to pull advertising from David Letterman for his joke about Sarah Palin's daughter."
I'm officially an Olive Garden ex-patron.
I waited tables at one for a couple of weeks when I was in college. Here is their dirty secret (which applies to most chain restaurants): most of the food in their menu is frozen, they don't have cooks as much as they have reheating specialists.
You may get the same experience from a TV dinner... for a fraction of the cost.
Parent Co. (Darden Restaurants).
"is a multi-brand restaurant operator. The firm owns several casual dining restaurant chains, most notably Olive Garden and Red Lobster." Thanks
I had work at Red Lobster before Darden bought it and we had great insurance benefit, and after they bought it, they strip us of all insurance, and there was an accident in the restaurant that resulted in the manager breaking my hearing aids, and took their insurance company a whole year before they were require to replace them. It was a freak accident, and the manager was sorry that he did it, but it was the company that tried to fight me in replacing them. Darden then fired the manager for trying to help me get my hearing aid. Trying to make things right.
Darden then tried to make waiters supplement manager pays by getting a share of the tip to manager instead of busser and dishwasher. Which is becoming more in common, so I gladly boycott them, as evil Corporate minions, that would in a heart beat step on low paying employees that depend on their tips to pay the bills.
OMG, what a loss...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t3L8pPoWbA
Who eats at Olive Garden anymore?
If you drive by the one here on Sundays, it looks like the whole damned county is eating there. I went to an Olive Garden in another town once and was not impressed.
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