As RNC Outraises DNC, Is Tim Kaine Missing in Action?
By Susie Madrak Tuesday May 26, 2009 12:30pmSo what's the deal, DNC? What the hell's going on? This is no time to rest on our laurels:
Much attention has been paid to the Democratic political juggernaut, and to the weaknesses of the GOP in general and the RNC in particular.
You wouldn't know it from their respective April fundraising numbers: The RNC outraised the DNC by $1.3 million.
The earlier rationale for the DNC's weak fundraising had been that Governor Kaine was taking care of business in Virginia, but that legislative session ended in February.
The RNC raised $5.4 million in contributions April, giving the committee $24.4 million on hand.
The DNC, in the same month, raised $4.4 million, leaving it with $9.1 million on hand.
Between the President of the United States and his massive list, you'd expect Democrats to have a real advantage in this category, but it hasn't taken hold, at least not yet.
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Easy. Howard Dean resigned and the very first thing the DNC did was announce that they would pursue a Rahm Emanuel strategy of playing defense and to "rest on their laurels". I sure as hell am not going to give them money to go back to that failed model and I don't think I'm alone.
You see what happen to Dean for the good work he did with bringing the democrat party into power... Emanuel throw him out of control because he did not do as Emanuel said.. I am afraid that by the time Obama is done , the democrat party is going to fall on it's a...
Also the policies that Emanuel are giving Obama to move to the center right is just plan BS>>>
I informed the Democrat Organization when they called for contributions that the policies that Obama and the democrats are following are republican policies and I refuse to be a part of it or them...
If I wanted republican candidates and republican policies I would support and vote republican.... But I be d... if I will contribute and support republican candidates or republican policies by democrats..
Emanuel is an arrogant a.. and he and the other Obama's republican advisers can go straight to you know where...
The DLC & DCCC support too many "Centrists" and they need not apply to me for cash. Dean's the Man and Democracy For America gets my support.
Really. Fuck 'em. A big part of the problem. The other big part, the DLC, all the Bluedogs and Pelosi and Reid.
Other than that, we have nothing to worry about.
As for outraising by the RNC? I'm sure they'll just waste it on more of teh crazy...bizarro James Bond rip offs and the like. They're both organisations cut from the same cloth, IMHO.
It's astounding to me how Democrats these days are less "liberal" than Reagan. The California Supreme Court decides that the majority can strip the minority of their rights and that the affect to LGBT individuals isn't that big a deal and Adam B and most partisans at Kos seem to think that's a fine and worthy decision that "makes sense". They've lost their way if they think that getting Democrats elected is the end all and be all. I don't care if they call themselves Democrats, I care that they act like Democrats. Hell, I'm pro gun ownership but make most of them look like rabid McCarthyites.
Hasnt the RNC always outraised the DNC? Even during the election I seem to remember that even while Obama was outraising both McCain and the RNC, the DNC was still getting outraised.
Remember the George Bush taxcuts for the wealthy??
"$.4.4 million" is NOT a number. It's an accurate copy and paste of the Politico article.
If the first statement is correct (RNC outraised the DNC by $1.3 million) then the "$.4.4 million" should read "$4.1 million."
5.4 - 4.1 = 1.3
on C-SPAN. "We're broke". (The whole country)
This should have been sunk into the heads of the American Public back around 2003.
are hard-core conservatives -- no surprises there.
OK Here's the Money! Where's the change?
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What do you mean give you more money?
First, conservatives have been worked into a frenzy from their leaders like Cheney and Limbaugh. They think their world is coming to an end. I would have been stunned if they hadn't given more money. Second, I think you've got a lot of liberals, like me, who are waiting to see what our previous donations are paying for. So far, Gitmo is still open for business, we're "looking forward" and pretending laws weren't broken in the last administration, we're always playing defense against the GOP as though we had nobody in office and we continue to hear how we need to reach across the aisle to get anything done. Hmm... guess we did pass a raise for minimum wage a couple year ago. That was something.
The Democratic contributors, the working class are the ones losing theirr jobs while the members of the RNC are shipping those jobs overseas.
I never heard of him.
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What's the deal? The people who squandered Bill Clinton's popularity, who mocked Howard Dean's 50 state strategy and then drove him out of the party and who gave us Harry Reid as SML are in charge. That's the deal.
You are absolutely right.
The oligarchs live on BOTH sides of the aisle.
Why don't we properly label them the way Russians do theirs?
And I'll refuse to give them a dime of my hard earned money just as I did when they were in charge before. Democrats: The new Republicans.
No, Kaine SUCKS.
young lady. How are you? Don't see much of you lately on open thread.
I am still around but more in read than comment mode.
How are you doing? I am quite well, thank you!
heading out to the coffee house right now. Later.
donkey balls. Wouldn't it be great if someone from the DLC read this thread and saw what we the peeps think of their money wasting, Thug loving asses?
Just in case:
DNC, DLC and Democratic Party in general:
But they won't. We're just a bunch of dirty fucking hippies to most of them. They are really no different than their Republican cohorts.
If we don't get single payer as an option, they can stick their reform up their collective asses.
There IS no reform without single payer. Period. End of conversation.
As to the dems...
Pelosi has to go.
Reid has to go.
Support of Spector has to go.
Fuck all of them. If they can't muster to give us better dems, then let them go the way of the Whigs, too. The GOP is already a couple of feet into the grave.
Our whole system is in shambles and failed when no one was held accountable for Bush's many crimes. We as a nation are no longer.
the DSCC and DCCC.
Is the RNC paying for lawyers for Norm Coleman? If that is the case, they are probably spending a lot more each month than the dems are.
I feel like I have been flushing my money down the crapper when the DEMS fail to back important efforts like EFKA, Public healthcare option and the closeing of GITMO, just to name a few. My fixed income is to precious for me to blow it on folks who act more like Repulicans Than Democrats.
the DNC is programmed to lose. it's the dnc dna.
It's not hard to understand how a group whipped up into a frenzy of fear, hatred, ignorance and cupidity would donate more money they can't afford to donate to a group that consistently manipulates them (the RNC) into doing so than their corresponding representatives on the other side of the aisle.
You might as well ask why Fox News has so many viewers. The Republicans have the Stupid / Ignorant vote all locked up, including their wallets...
I like Tim Kaine a lot, but he never should have been given the DNC chair.
Like Obama is taking the support of the LGBT community for granted, they feel comfortable throwing our issues under the bus of expediency. Fine. Do that. But don't dare ever ask me for another cent.
The Republicans are about the only ones left with any money to donate.
can go screw itself. If I have money, it's going to Blue America.
my name to that comment. No more shitty dems to vote against everything we stand for. Enough is enough.
If I wanted to vote Republican, I'd vote for an actual Republican. As it is, it's going to be extremely hard for me to even get motivated enough to go vote next cycle. It has demonstrably done me more harm than good.
Before we go way off the deep end with whining, we do need to recognize the historical fact that the right wing extremists in the country often have supporters with deep pockets.
Labor, the LGBT community, auto workers, civil libertarians, mortgage holders, peace activists, the uninsured...
No. After their track record, I'm surprised they've done as well as they have. Must be the bankers and the insurance lobbies and the Wall Street traders that are giving to the DNC.
The lobbies that always give to both parties.
Maybe April was a tough month for some of the DNC supporters as they were paying their taxes?...maybe. If the Tea Parties were as well attended as FauxNews would have us believe then there are millions and millions of people who just had might have some money donating to the GOP. Maybe just 1.3 million.
I knew from the minute he was chosen that we were screwed. It points to the cluelessness of Obama how much the 50 state strategy helped his election. So many people like to grouse that this is Emanuel's doing, but that's not important, the fact that Obama doesn't realize what going on is important. Same with his retention of Geitner for finance.
Geitner and Kaine = impotent choices
He's out raising kaine?
So whatever happened to Rasputin, Nonny Mouse and Strawberry Bitch?
Nonny puts up post here at c&l once in a while.
they're going to inundate the television with commercials that piss off left wingers and moderates / centrists, and annoy the more subdued right-leaning conservatives on the fence.
because their leadership is still on this ultra-right-wing hater kick. so big deal! the 30%-ers who still think Obama wasn't born in Hawaii are donating a lot of money to commercials destined to fail.
seriously, what else are they going to donate their money to? banner ads??
elections are no longer determined by just money and money alone. Obama - *OR* Hillary - could have had 1/3 the money McCain had, but going to toe-to-toe with an old man and his crazy ex-beauty-queen hypocrite running mate ... we were destined to win. we had this one in the bag.
the entire GOP business model needs an overhaul. throwing more money at them right now, is like throwing more money at AIG or Chrysler and expecting that to solve everything. especially with has-beens like Cheney popping up every 15 minutes, pissing off the rest of the nation by trying to cover his own ass.
maybe somebody wants to set me straight here but I honestly don't see what the major harm is to the Democratic-controlled House & Senate come 2010. they might have more ad money, but we have a better marketing team and a better business model.
But their running as hard as they can to the right might just.
We have nothing until we have better dems.
After 8 years of contributing to Dem causes from California to Maine, I'm not giving anything at the moment. Election time comes around I might dig in to my pocket some more if there's a real need. However, if I was a Republican, I'd now give as much as I could to advance the GOP platform of Maintaining The March Towards Global Warming, Defunding Pooblik Skoolls, Endless Wars and Defense Spending, Reduction in Constitutional Rights and Freedoms and Fleecing of the American Public by Corporations (my personal favorite cause).
moveon and David Plouffe or whatever - they send me updates all the time.
I'm not donating a fucking penny though, until I see at least one of the following:
- reversal of wiretapping and domestic surveillance
- public inquiries into crimes committed by the previous administration
- a strong and indisputable plan against big banks to get our TARP / bailout monies back quickly
those 3 things were primary reasons why I donated in the first place. now I'm getting "universal healthcare" emails in my inbox from the same people. well, sorry guys but - this horse sees the carrot you're dangling in front of him, but he sees the string and the stick, too.
I'll keep voting left, as will I think the majority of Americans. but I'm not donating another dime at this pont. I'm not trippin' if the right wing executive types and/or televangelist donator types are sending more money to evil jerks like Karl Rove, than people like us are sending money to idiots evil jerks George Koros
Yup - It seems like the Dems went back to being GOP-lite after all that tough talk during the elections. They don't need money, they need a backbone.
i feel exactly the same.
no dean, no progressive policies, not investigating and prosecuting the bushco criminals, extending the abolition of habeas corpus, ignoring the progressive netroots...not a penny until they get a back bone.
We elected a Democratic congress and President. What do we get? It seems nobody is going to be held accountable for torture and war crimes. We know the CIA is full of those loyal to the Bush administration, he planted them there and throughout Washington. Nobody is cleaning house. We are being robbed blind to bail out businesses whose underhanded dealings caused them to fail. We learn that Obama will leave some Americans in Iraq for years to come. Has anyone heard of any exit strategy for Afghanistan? The longer we stay in that part of the world the more things go downhill.
We find that the military tribunals will resume. Obama has flip flopped on the release of photos that would likely incriminate many. Our elected officials many times work against the party. Makes me wonder how many Republicans are running as Democrats to keep their agenda moving along. The Democrats we voted in to office are being pulled around by the leashes by Republicans. What the hell are they afraid of anyway?
Why aren't we warning Limbaugh, Beck and the like that if they continue to incite violence they will be arrested and charged with treason? They have big mouths but would run like scared rabbits if anyone showed them any muscle. And do it if they continue to broadcast such things to stir up racism and other violence. Hell when the Republicans were in charge peaceful people who might have had a couple of things that possibly could have been used as a weapon were being arrested.
I know some of the things Obama has done has been positive, but too many really important things have not been done right. I have been tempted to call him George JR on more then one occasion.
When the Democrats that we have elected start to behave like Democrats maybe they will get more donations. Stop giving away our fortune, get the hell out of the middle east. Clean house in agencies like the CIA and FBI...they obviously are still under the control of the last administration. As far as the FBI goes, just look at the joke once the story about the latest home grown terrorists develop. They just wanted something to go along with what Darth Cheney is spitting and spewing about.
I, for one, am completely disgusted with the whole lot of them.
Those of us that do not steal for a living and have a conscience have little to donate to a group of idiots that won't represent us in the first place. They replaced Howard Dean. This gives you an indication of how stupid the Democratic party is. They still allow Harry (R-jackmormon) Reid to blow every decision a proper senate leader might make. We have a Speaker of the House that says "impeachment is off the table" any time someone gives hear a dirty look.
When they replace jerks with real people that have real balls, Perhaps. I am not holding my breath.
a) Democrats blew their wad on the election, which was only six months ago.
b) Republicans are terrified, so they're giving more money.
c) Considering the constituency Republicans represent--rich, white guys--it ought to be a lot more money than that. The former AIG executive alone walked away with $300 million, thanks to Republican policies. He could find $4 million stuck between his ass crack when he rolls over in bed.
Sorry, but right now there are more important places to put our money than politics. God knows, the government can't be counted on to help the hungry, the homeless, or those without health care. Someone has to. Liberals with money have difficult choices to make right now.
Memo to Obama: About time to start planning a few fund raisers. Bush showed how effective even a dismal President could be.
Look for the Repubs (RSCC, RCCC, RNC) to make as much noise as they can about Sotomayor when they can. And send out a ton of emails solliciting funds to "fight liberal activist judges". And it'll work.
Neither BHO nor Dean were the party-establishment choice. Both ascended to leadership through popular support. Obama has such a massive fundraising list because people supported HIM, his policy positions, his political message, and as a symbol of progress and change. When you ask those of us who supported BHO, cut our $100 checks every month (which, for many of us, is more than 3% of our net take home pay) to support the "party", and we look at the likes of Nelson, Feinstein, Bacchus, Milquetoast Reid, we're all saying "uh, no, don't think so."
I think that's a rule.
First of course no one wants to give money to people who let torturers walk free. And then add to that the massive redistribution of wealth from the working class to the ultra rich Republican base the past few decades and it's no suprise the RNC is raking in more cash then the DNC. That and shit-canning Dean was just plain STUPID.
Dem's are watching and enjoying the Reslugs just shoot themselves alone with their bigoted and hate filled Reslug leaders spewing racist puke.
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