flack Rayola Dougher who was basically saying that if they had new regulations imposed on them, they'd move to other countries just as Perino is saying they'd do here because of the mixed signals on drilling offshore from the Obama administration.

Perino: And that’s why I think that the oil spill actually hurts… there’s 9.2 million jobs I believe it is, are in the American petroleum industry. That’s how many Americans work in the industry. And if we send signals that shallow water drilling is going to be off limits, oh no it’s on limits, back on again, in 24 hours they had three different statements out of the administration. And these are capital intensive projects where you have to spend a lot of money and if they’re not convinced that they are going to be able to do those projects, they will go else where and it won’t be in America and those jobs won’t come back.

Williams: What’s incredible to me is that the right in this country on one hand says “oh yeah, we need more drilling” and then wants to blame people when you have drilling that results in this terrible…

Perino: I’m not blaming anybody but it’s true!

Williams: …you said historic oil spill.

Perino: But it isn’t…

Williams: Well then okay then, but you’re going to have to take that into account. You want drilling that will potentially create ecological disasters.

Perino: Well… (sputters) but… are you going to stop driving? It’s interesting to me that anyone who might support production is the villain and anybody who’s the consumer is the angel.

Williams: No, it’s just you have to at some point say that big business and big oil has to be held accountable…

Perino: They are and I think that they were willing… and they’re willing to have more regulations.