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billy's picture

FRIST!!!

Zenrage's picture

Great stuff. Everytime Maher speaks, the conservative parasites get knocked down a notch.

Art Pufkin's picture

I hate Bill Maher. What a self serving prick.

Sri Harsha's picture

hmm...he isn't that bad. He is funny most of the times.

noneof yourbusiness's picture

Yeah really self serving. A guy who had the courage to tell it like it was before it was sheik in 2001 and he gets canned for it . Where is the apology for him being right.

Tequila's picture

We're giving the Saudis more weapons to blown up one of our buildings.

Greg's picture

Yea..we're the good people. You know why we believe this?..because we hold doors open for the next person, occasionally say excuse me and go to church. Yea that makes us a great and peaceful nation, until we go to the Little league field, or don't exit the passing lane in a timely manner

Rick's picture

You mean Chic??

noneof yourbusiness @ 6:

Yeah really self serving. A guy who had the courage to tell it like it was before it was sheik in 2001

RTLM's picture

Comedy is funny, but Bill Maher is hateful and angry - with a smirk.

luke oneil's picture

noneof yourbusiness @ 6:

Yeah really self serving. A guy who had the courage to tell it like it was before it was sheik in 2001 and he gets canned for it . Where is the apology for him being right.

I wholeheartedly concur.

bubba's picture

Ive always liked him. I still hate the business school jackoffs at abc who cowered like punks before the conservative lynch mobs. Maher didnt even say it, he just agreed with his guest that the 9/11 terrorists werent cowards in any physical sense. They were willing do die.

The inarticulate rage of american white trash after 9/11 just wanted every possible perjorative term applied to the terrorists. They were masturbating, lollypop stealing, pedophilic, shoplifters. Nevermind the truth, it was more fun to live in fantasy rage land.

ashabot's picture

Great stuff.

Kevin's picture

Great comedian, special was fantastic!!

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

luke oneil @ 11:

noneof yourbusiness @ 6:

Yeah really self serving. A guy who had the courage to tell it like it was before it was sheik in 2001 and he gets canned for it . Where is the apology for him being right.

I wholeheartedly concur.

"Stupid *ELEPHANTS*, see 'em holding each other's tails, Everybody knows that there's nothing as sad as *A* clown" - Little Jack Melody with his Young Turks

I'm sorry, I misread the comment I was commenting about.

Site Monitor, please delete this and my last comment (16 and 15 as numbered at this time.)

cee's picture

saw him live in san diego... it was amazing. great show

nsr's picture

I suppose everyone's heard the terror alert about the exploding cheese was bogus. CNN: "The FBI now says there were valid explanations for all four incidents in that bulletin, and a US government official says no charges will be brought in any of these cases."

I'm just going to start assuming, if the govt comes out with anything, it's a lie. Seriously. They were probably the ones planting thoe items in the first place.

myiq2xu's picture

If you weren't laughing you need to pull the stick outta yer ass.

My favorite: Fuck-up Fatigue!

oldtree's picture

that was one of the best routines I have seen in a long time. he kept that going for an hour and was slaying them

franc_tireur's picture

Wow, really? The Government is lying to us? What? I'm frickin' flabbergasted...

bronco214's picture

RTLM
People with active brain cells are outraged at having been screwed for the last 61/2 years. To express that is not hate.

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myiq2xu @ 19:

My favorite: Fuck-up Fatigue!

All you can do then is beat on th brats.

Dahgrostab'ph-r-i's picture

I love it when people say they don't like Bill Maher or that he isn't funny, mostly it's the scary fact that you might agree with his notion that we always have to be the stupid country, or as he put it in this clip "I don't hate America I just hate Americans" - he's exactly right, I love this country but I am fed up with the Idol nation, I'm sick of the fact that we pay people who make a difference in the country or in people lives we pay them very little, but someone scores a lot of touchdowns we give him the key's to the castle. This country is great but it's citizens are mostly ass-backwards!!!

Where are our morals, where are our American values?!? What do we even do in this country anymore? we can't get heath care to our people, we can't get education to our people, we can't give a fair shake to the working stiffs, we can't elect a president who can complete a sentence...what can we do in America anymore? what do we stand for as a nation? these are serious questions we should be asking ourselves...so is Bill Maher self-serving because he points it out when them MSM won't touch it with a 10' pole? Or is he self-serving because me makes a good living asking these questions?

nsr's picture

It's not that they lie. Anyone who saw the invasion of Iraq knows that. It's that the assumption should be everything they say is a lie.

I've complained about their mendacity like everyone else here. The point about comment 18 was that my first response to anything coming from the Bush White House from now on is that it's not true. Without even hearing what it is. It's like what Bobby Kennedy said about LBJ- they just lie all the time, even when they don't have to.

Goebbels said if you repeat the lie often enough, people believe it. But if you repeatedly lie about different things all the time, no one's going to believe anything you say. But that's Bush for you-- he's even screwed up fascism.

anon's picture

nice garrison keilor quote #8

Sometimes they say something true, even Bush.

All lying-type propaganda artists throw in a little truth, so they can pass off their massive amount of lies.

Mister Anderson's picture

End Combat Operations, Redeploy the Troops, and Begin Phased Withdrawals: Reason #79

Prime Minister Maliki may ask for General Petraeus to be replaced:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20070728/iraq-hot-tempers/

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bronco214 @ 22:

RTLM
People with active brain cells are outraged at having been screwed for the last 61/2 years. To express that is not hate.

bronco,
Assuming you include yourself in the "active brain cell" population; How - precisely - have you been "screwed" the last 61/2 years? Are you unemployed? Are you without basic staples?
You obviously have high speed internet which, demographically speaking, puts you at a higher education and income level. So I wonder how it is that you have been screwed.(?)
Other than vehemently disagreeing with Bush and not getting your way.
I believe bubba above said something about conservatives (white trash) living in "fantasy rage land". I believe its the Left that lives in Fantasy Rage Land - given the language of the left blogs. Not necessarily here at Crooks and Liars, but at other sites like Huffpo and Kos. Where they suggest and hope for the death of the President and others.
I think that is Fantasy Rage Land.

nsr's picture

I gotta laugh when someone tries to shame us like that.

Chip's picture

The self-serving remark is bull.

Bill Maher is right on the mark. American's are so insular. I just bet the biggest Bush fans have never been out of the country. If you've traveled the world (and I don't mean on a military mission) you would realize or probably agree that the world does not revolve around us. This "we are the greatest attitude" is why we are fucking up the world.

The neo-con experiment to make the US the supreme superpower is a chaotic failure. It's really an embarrasment. How many military theaters did we engage in in WWII? And we can't even get control of Iraq in the same amount of time. Like I said it's an embarrasment.

And you know what I notice when I travel the world? Americans are fat pigs. You don't really notice it until you leave the country and come back here. It says alot about the "greatest country in the world" who can't even take care of their own people.

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RTLM @ 29:

I think that is Fantasy Rage Land.

Oh, FANTASY Rage Land. As opposed to Reality Rage Land, wherein you vent rage by illegally invading and occupying a country and killing 100,000 to 200,000 people.

SITE MONITOR: RTLM seems awfully troll-like. Can you say "flame-baiting"?

RTLM's picture

Oh for cryin' out loud

I am not flame baiting. This is an open thread and I posted a remark about Maher that was responded to. I responded back. Its not impossible to disagree without screaming.

(BTW: not everyone here loves Maher...)

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

> (BTW: not everyone here loves Maher…)

Yes. We have right-wing trolls here too!!!!

lafin gas's picture

RTLM @ 29:

bronco214 @ 22:

RTLM
People with active brain cells are outraged at having been screwed for the last 61/2 years. To express that is not hate.

bronco,
Assuming you include yourself in the "active brain cell" population; How - precisely - have you been "screwed" the last 61/2 years? Are you unemployed? Are you without basic staples?
You obviously have high speed internet which, demographically speaking, puts you at a higher education and income level. So I wonder how it is that you have been screwed.(?)
Other than vehemently disagreeing with Bush and not getting your way.
I believe bubba above said something about conservatives (white trash) living in "fantasy rage land". I believe its the Left that lives in Fantasy Rage Land - given the language of the left blogs. Not necessarily here at Crooks and Liars, but at other sites like Huffpo and Kos. Where they suggest and hope for the death of the President and others.
I think that is Fantasy Rage Land.

Republican Troll Lying for Money, you believe what you want, but take a real good look at the criminals that have commandeered our nation, you may find yourself in a whole new world. The Supreme Court giving the presidency to boy George and stopping the counting when Al Gore should have been the winner. From then on it’s been down hill for this country. The rich getting richer and everyone else scratching a living the best they can. Bill Maher tells it like it is but you can’t see out your own ass.

mudshark's picture

Saw it ,liked it,thought in parts it was a little over the top,but I still liked it... fuck up fatigue,he got that right.And bushit did unite half a world....so the decider is a uniter.

Fel's picture

my fave part also was maher's raking over the coals of the 'america is the best country on earth' b.s.

it's a rare public figure who is willing to go against the grain on that particular proclamation of pseudo-patriotism. that belief, so silly as to be laughable (that ANY country would have the balls let alone the multicultural blindness to even utter such a foolhardy statement) is the fundamental basis for bill o'reilly's show, and his ultimate self-righteous refuge when the going gets tough. fun to watch.

Van's picture

Bill Maher....brilliant, as usual!

I saw him in Seattle a couple years ago, and I hope he makes it back this way soon. He's the best comedian working today!

mark's picture

Gee wiz, I just get back from vacation and have to see these things. RTLM, now that I gave up my seat on the plane, don't you have some place to go so we don't have to read your junk? You must be a young punk with no kids. Look into the future where the people of this country are trying to dig out of the financial hole that Georgie and his republican pals dug for us. High speed internet? Maybe for another few minutes. As in health care we are being left in the dust rapidly. Why? Because the rich republican pricks that own the health care and communication systems are only interested in a profit today. The internet communication systems companies were given huge tax breaks to build infrastructure and just pocketed the money without building the high speed capable lines. Now I have one of those criminals calling every day with a $20 a month charge for this so they can build them. We already paid for them the crooks. AT&T and the other phone and cable companies have a lot of people owning them that need some prison time. Oh by the way, just to finish this in a nice way, if you don't like Bill Maher, eat me.

MailHead's picture

This was not his best stand-up. I may have even turned if off and decided to finish it later, which I will when I'm in the mood. But I'm always down for some Bill Maher stand-up. Especially since the show is in the off-season.

Off topic: I saw Kathy Griffin's Everybody Can Suck It on Bravo recently. As annoying as I used to think she is I laughed my ass off.

Also off topic, I hope C&L covers the new story about Maliki about to tell the US that he was General Patraious out of Iraq.

MailHead's picture

RTLM @ 10:

Comedy is funny, but Bill Maher is hateful and angry - with a smirk.

So....do you laugh when you watch the 1/2 Comedy Hour? (No, I don't mean the original from 1983. I mean the Foxnews version. You know, the COMEDY show broadcast on the NEWS channel?)

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lafin gas @ 35:

RTLM @ 29:

bronco214 @ 22:

"Republican Troll Lying for Money"
Always only a matter of time before I'm accused of that here. The idea that a person who can come in here with a well articulated opposite opinion is on some neocon pay roll is ridiculous.

All I can offer you is a wiki link that probably best describes the 2000 outcome (Note the state by state graphic). There's this thing called the Electoral College that actually decides the Presidential Elections. Been there for 150 years or so. Limits densely packed population centers from continually determining the outcome of national elections.

As far as the Bush/Criminal thing - whatever. If he actually was a criminal - the Dems would at least be able to put ONE admin clone in jail.

And could you define "rich" ? I've always wondered what Gore's definition was as far as a number $$.

RTLM's picture

MailHead @ 42:

RTLM @ 10:

Comedy is funny, but Bill Maher is hateful and angry - with a smirk.

So....do you laugh when you watch the 1/2 Comedy Hour? (No, I don't mean the original from 1983. I mean the Foxnews version. You know, the COMEDY show broadcast on the NEWS channel?)

Never seen it

Something weird happened on the last post.

lafin gas's picture

RTLM @ 43:

lafin gas @ 35:

RTLM @ 29:

bronco214 @ 22:

"Republican Troll Lying for Money"
Always only a matter of time before I'm accused of that here. The idea that a person who can come in here with a well articulated opposite opinion is on some neocon pay roll is ridiculous.

All I can offer you is a wiki link that probably best describes the 2000 outcome (Note the state by state graphic). There's this thing called the Electoral College that actually decides the Presidential Elections. Been there for 150 years or so. Limits densely packed population centers from continually determining the outcome of national elections.

As far as the Bush/Criminal thing - whatever. If he actually was a criminal - the Dems would at least be able to put ONE admin clone in jail.

And could you define "rich" ? I've always wondered what Gore's definition was as far as a number $$.

Did they use clorox on your brain or did they just through it in the Biz bag?

MailHead's picture

RTLM @ 44:

MailHead @ 42:

RTLM @ 10:

Comedy is funny, but Bill Maher is hateful and angry - with a smirk.

So....do you laugh when you watch the 1/2 Comedy Hour? (No, I don't mean the original from 1983. I mean the Foxnews version. You know, the COMEDY show broadcast on the NEWS channel?)

Never seen it

Something weird happened on the last post.

I don't believe that for a minute. Does that happen to be the one 30 period out of each week you're not conveniently glued to Foxnews? If you wanted to qualify your "hateful and angry - with a smirk" comment as unbiased you'll point out your right-wing comedians like Rush, Coulter & FoxComedy as just as hateful and angry - with a smirk. Go now. Prove you don't troll left-blogs to bait and flame.

myiq2xu's picture

I thought it was

Really
Tries to
Look
Masculine

myiq2xu's picture

Or maybe

Really
Tiny
Little
Manhood

RTLM's picture

MailHead @ 46:

RTLM @ 44:

MailHead @ 42:

RTLM @ 10:

So....do you laugh when you watch the 1/2 Comedy Hour? (No, I don't mean the original from 1983. I mean the Foxnews version. You know, the COMEDY show broadcast on the NEWS channel?)

Never seen it

Something weird happened on the last post.

I don't believe that for a minute. Does that happen to be the one 30 period out of each week you're not conveniently glued to Foxnews? If you wanted to qualify your "hateful and angry - with a smirk" comment as unbiased you'll point out your right-wing comedians like Rush, Coulter & FoxComedy as just as hateful and angry - with a smirk. Go now. Prove you don't troll left-blogs to bait and flame.

First of all I'm NOT unbiased. I discriminate every day. Just not the way you would reflexively believe.

I can speak to Rush and Coulter - these are iconoclasts. Coulter merely speaks and the Left is infuriated. Rush mixes off-the-wall jokes, mimicry, satire and bombast with his views. Talk show hosts that can get their political message across and produce ad revenue from companies who choose to advertise on their shows prosper. Those who can't, don't.

As far as proving to you that I don't troll/flame bait - I've been booted off Kos and Democrat Daily. And simply don't bother with Huffpo. Keep looking and you'll find my output is prolific.

What many here consider a flame war I consider conversation - like we're having now.

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

RTLM -
> ... Coulter merely speaks ...

Garbage. All she really does is flame and flame-bait.

RTLM's picture

Stanley Rosenthal @ 50:

RTLM -
> ... Coulter merely speaks ...

Garbage. All she really does is flame and flame-bait.

Like how?

Like when she claims in her "straw man" that Liberals are "Godless", RTLM.

RTLM's picture

Actually RTLM are the call letter of a Hutu radio station in Rwanda that espoused genocide against the Tutsis, moderate Hutus, Belgians and the UN in 1993.

But in my case its an acronym for a nickname from my mid-twenties among like-minded bachelors in a warm-climate beach city.

MailHead's picture

"As far as proving to you that I don’t troll/flame bait - I’ve been booted off Kos and Democrat Daily. And simply don’t bother with Huffpo. Keep looking and you’ll find my output is prolific."

Exactly. You've been kicked off because you are a right wing flaming troll, admit that you're biased and therefore everyone here was right to judge you as unqualified to judge comedy and biased in your anti-Maher comment. This bias is further demonstrated by your comically slanted and shamefully hypocritical defense of Coulter & Rush.

Thanks for proving that everyone was right about you.

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

Mailhead @ 54, I agree that RTLM's defending Ann Coulter says something in itself.

lafin gas's picture

Maybe it stands for
Reality
Totally
Loses
Me

Since this is an open thread, I'm gonna brag for a second and say that IMHO one of my very favorite comments of all time that I typed was the other night when we had(/have) the O'Really trolls here because apparently O'Really placed C&L in as another supposed "hate" site like the *DAILYKOS* supposedly is (in his twisted mind with his 'Pretzel Logic'), the visitor made a spelling error and claimed that O'Really is correct and we're all a bunch of "heaters" here. I responded with like "Actually, flame-baiting isn't allowed here on C&L". :-) I'm still laughing at myself over that one. LOL!!!!

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MailHead @ 54:

"As far as proving to you that I don’t troll/flame bait - I’ve been booted off Kos and Democrat Daily. And simply don’t bother with Huffpo. Keep looking and you’ll find my output is prolific."
Exactly. You've been kicked off because you are a right wing flaming troll, admit that you're biased and therefore everyone here was right to judge you as unqualified to judge comedy and biased in your anti-Maher comment. This bias is further demonstrated by your comically slanted and shamefully hypocritical defense of Coulter & Rush.
Thanks for proving that everyone was right about you.

How is that hypocritical? Let me repeat: Coulter merely speaks and the Left is infuriated. True.
Rush mixes off-the-wall jokes, mimicry, satire and bombast with his views. Talk show hosts that can get their political message across and produce ad revenue from companies who choose to advertise on their shows prosper. Those who can’t, don’t.

[Deleted. Right wing propaganda. Spread on your own sites, not here-Sitemonitor]

Jeff's picture

the full program can be downloaded on bittorrent. well worth the download.

RTLM -
> Let me repeat: Coulter merely speaks ...

If it were true, you wouldn't need to repeat it.

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Stanley Rosenthal @ 60:

RTLM -
> Let me repeat: Coulter merely speaks ...

If it were true, you wouldn't need to repeat it.

That's one powerful refutation.

I'm pretty good at powerful refutiation so it appears, RTLM. ThanX!!!! I do accept (and appreciate) compliments from right-wingers, RTLM.

RTLM -
> Liberals are averse to God in all public spheres. No God in school, courthouses, offices and parks. Liberals are by and large anti God. And also anti-Christianity in particular.

"Straw man" arguments/attacks. Attack the real Liberals, RTLM, you're missing your target.

MailHead's picture

RTLM is a hypocrite because he tries to qualify himself as unbiased by initial rating Maher in relation to comedy when in fact he is anti-Maher and therefore not qualified to give an objective opinion on what he just spoke to. Then when challenged you give self-serving biased defenses of both Coulter & Rush when in fact the essence of your defense could just as easily have been applied to Maher if you were so inclined to be fair and balanced. Maher speaks and the right salivates. Maher mixes off-the-wall jokes, mimicry, satire and bombast with his views. If you were fair minded you would have described Coulter, Rush & FoxComedy as hateful and angry - with a smirk.

"I am not flame baiting."

This too is a lie. That fact that others took the bait for entertainment purposes does not mean you're not a flaming troll. You are but said you weren't. You are as dishonest and self-serving when describing you own behaviour as you are when describing Maher, Coulter, Rush, and the liberal stereotype you like to portray when playing your right-winged martyrdom act.

But make no mistake, it has been entertaining watching you work. Whereas you like to take one person you refer to as a liberal and paint everyone you disagree with as being representative of all stereotypical liberal behaviours, it is you who has exemplified the right-wing stereotype very effectually.

No tell us how proud you are of being what you are.

RTLM's picture

Stanley Rosenthal @ 63:

RTLM -
> Liberals are averse to God in all public spheres. No God in school, courthouses, offices and parks. Liberals are by and large anti God. And also anti-Christianity in particular.

"Straw man" arguments/attacks. Attack the real Liberals, RTLM, you're missing your target.

Stanley -

WHO are the "real Liberals? (!!)

Kaare Vilmark's picture

Thought this was awesome, Bill Maher at his best!

RTLM -
> WHO are the “real Liberals? (!!)

Well, there's me for one.

MailHead's picture

Stanley Rosenthal @ 57:

Since this is an open thread, I'm gonna brag for a second and say that IMHO one of my very favorite comments of all time that I typed was the other night when we had(/have) the O'Really trolls here because apparently O'Really placed C&L in as another supposed "hate" site like the *DAILYKOS* supposedly is (in his twisted mind with his 'Pretzel Logic'), the visitor made a spelling error and claimed that O'Really is correct and we're all a bunch of "heaters" here. I responded with like "Actually, flame-baiting isn't allowed here on C&L". :-) I'm still laughing at myself over that one. LOL!!!!

LOL

We will, we will, heat you....

I'd like to teach the world to heat....

I'm a heater, he's a heater, she's a heater, we're all heaters, wouldn't you like to be a heater to....

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

Cute Mailhead, especially since I'm actually (believe it or not) the President of the Dr. Pepper International Fan Club. :-)

MailHead's picture

Stanley Rosenthal @ 69:

Cute Mailhead, especially since I'm actually (believe it or not) the President of the Dr. Pepper International Fan Club. :-)

HIYOOOO!

RTLM's picture

RTLM @ 49:

MailHead @ 46:

RTLM @ 44:

MailHead @ 42: Never seen it

Something weird happened on the last post.

I don't believe that for a minute. Does that happen to be the one 30 period out of each week you're not conveniently glued to Foxnews? If you wanted to qualify your "hateful and angry - with a smirk" comment as unbiased you'll point out your right-wing comedians like Rush, Coulter & FoxComedy as just as hateful and angry - with a smirk. Go now. Prove you don't troll left-blogs to bait and flame.

First of all I'm NOT unbiased. I discriminate every day. Just not the way you would reflexively believe.

I can speak to Rush and Coulter - these are iconoclasts. Coulter merely speaks and the Left is infuriated. Rush mixes off-the-wall jokes, mimicry, satire and bombast with his views. Talk show hosts that can get their political message across and produce ad revenue from companies who choose to advertise on their shows prosper. Those who can't, don't.

As far as proving to you that I don't troll/flame bait - I've been booted off Kos and Democrat Daily. And simply don't bother with Huffpo. Keep looking and you'll find my output is prolific.

What many here consider a flame war I consider conversation - like we're having now.

MailHead @ 64:

RTLM is a hypocrite because he tries to qualify himself as unbiased by initial rating Maher in relation to comedy when in fact he is anti-Maher and therefore not qualified to give an objective opinion on what he just spoke to. Then when challenged you give self-serving biased defenses of both Coulter & Rush when in fact the essence of your defense could just as easily have been applied to Maher if you were so inclined to be fair and balanced. Maher speaks and the right salivates. (ignores for the most part - ed) Maher mixes off-the-wall jokes, mimicry, satire and bombast with his views. If you were fair minded you would have described Coulter, Rush & FoxComedy as hateful and angry - with a smirk.

"I am not flame baiting."

This too is a lie. That fact that others took the bait for entertainment purposes does not mean you're not a flaming troll. You are but said you weren't. You are as dishonest and self-serving when describing you own behaviour as you are when describing Maher, Coulter, Rush, and the liberal stereotype you like to portray when playing your right-winged martyrdom act.

But make no mistake, it has been entertaining watching you work. Whereas you like to take one person you refer to as a liberal and paint everyone you disagree with as being representative of all stereotypical liberal behaviours, it is you who has exemplified the right-wing stereotype very effectually.

No tell us how proud you are of being what you are.

I could SO never teach middle school!! They just don't read, listen or comprehend.

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RTLM-

Liberals are averse to God in all public spheres. No God in school, courthouses, offices and parks. Liberals are by and large anti God. And also anti-Christianity in particular.

Yes, sweetheart, of course yer right.

And all conservatives believe in a balanced budget. Yep.

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

And I just got the competition (the CocaCola) parody line ... great comment MailHead!

RTLM -
> I could SO never teach middle school!!

Sure you could. Unfortunately you'd be teaching lies to children. And that's just not right.

Catalyst's picture

aww.. the end was just getting really good.

RTLM's picture

Andy K @ 72:

RTLM-

Liberals are averse to God in all public spheres. No God in school, courthouses, offices and parks. Liberals are by and large anti God. And also anti-Christianity in particular.

Yes, sweetheart, of course yer right.

And all conservatives believe in a balanced budget. Yep.

Conservatives do - Bush does not. Don't confuse the two.

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

RTLM -
>> And all conservatives believe in a balanced budget. Yep.
>
> Conservatives do - Bush does not. Don’t confuse the two.

So you agree with me that Reagan was no Conservative.

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RTLM @ 76:

Andy K @ 72:

RTLM-

Liberals are averse to God in all public spheres. No God in school, courthouses, offices and parks. Liberals are by and large anti God. And also anti-Christianity in particular.

Yes, sweetheart, of course yer right.

And all conservatives believe in a balanced budget. Yep.

Conservatives do - Bush does not. Don't confuse the two.

So liberals are conservatives now and conservatives are liberals, huh? Who'da thunk it?

Hey, Stan, let's go join the John Birch Society now. It seems we're legacies! 1/2 off the membership fee, pal!

MailHead's picture

"I could SO never teach middle school!! They just don’t read, listen or comprehend."

No, you couldn't teach middle school because you'd be out paced. The very notion that a child of that age could benefit from you is horrific. It is you who has not comprehended my assessment of your first post. How much time and energy do you expect everyone else to dedicate to helping you understand? I thought you people were against social programs in favor of personal responsibility. Sheesh.

Now that you're posts have been rightly edited due to right-wing propaganda, I'm dying to hear you whine about how liberals engage in censorship. That would fit in with the right-wing stereotype you're portraying in your haste to stereotype liberals based on those who object to your point of view. If I were to use your logic of generalizations to stereotype you based on the actions of your fellow right-wingers I could only conclude that you are a pedophilic, lying, hypocritical, bigoted, closeted homosexual prostitute frequenting faux christian, racist, propaganda-regurgitating, mindless kool-aid drinking criminal.

Not that I'm one to generalize just to make a point.

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

Andy @ 78, they'd have to pay me. :-)

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MailHead @ 79:

"I could SO never teach middle school!! They just don’t read, listen or comprehend."

No, you couldn't teach middle school because you'd be out paced. The very notion that a child of that age could benefit from you is horrific. It is you who has not comprehended my assessment of your first post. How much time and energy do you expect everyone else to dedicate to helping you understand? I thought you people were against social programs in favor of personal responsibility. Sheesh.

Now that you're posts have been rightly edited due to right-wing propaganda, I'm dying to hear you whine about how liberals engage in censorship. That would fit in with the right-wing stereotype you're portraying in your haste to stereotype liberals based on those who object to your point of view. If I were to use your logic of generalizations to stereotype you based on the actions of your fellow right-wingers I could only conclude that you are a pedophilic, lying, hypocritical, bigoted, closeted homosexual prostitute frequenting faux christian, racist, propaganda-regurgitating, mindless kool-aid drinking criminal.

Not that I'm one to generalize just to make a point.

Naw - I get edited here a lot. Enjoy the last word.

Nite all.

Andy K's picture

Rapidly Typin' Lonely Minuteman?

Later RTLM, it was nice debating with you. I trust that you'll return to this great place again (even though I do realize that you'll probably try it under another psuedo. ;-) You really could come back here under the same psuedo if you care to.)

MailHead's picture

Goodnight bigot. I'm sorry you're leaving because I was hoping you would be able to tell me when your episode of Dateline NBC To Catch A Predator was coming on. Given that there have been several conservatives who - among other things - have been busted with underaged children, that means it fair to conclude - following your logic - that conservatives are child molesters since and you're a conservative I can only assume that you too are a child molesting predator. Well, the conservative men are anyway, not the women. Your women are too busy baking brownies. Brownies which you take to the underaged children you molest. Anyway, you know how it works. I was just going to ask, having watched Dateline NBC TCAP, why is your woman baking you cookies to take to your minor victims since they already have cookies and brownies for you once you get there? I don't understand that. I mean, I understand the condoms, the KY, the porn, but they always have treats waiting for you. Is it just to give your women something to do besides stare at the ceiling? Hmmm...

So, when you say "nite all" does that mean you have to hurry up and get to the bathroom at your local park before it empties out or is the party just getting started? Since we've got you here could you explain something to me conservative stereotype? Why do you offer money to the men in a public bathroom when seeking park sex even though they're there for the same reason you are? If you wanted to hire a male prostitute for gay sex why don't you go to where the prostitutes hang out. Like at the loading dock behind the hotel at your republican gatherings? A public bathroom is where closeted xtian hypocrites and homosexuals can come together for anonymous no-questions-asked bathroom park sex. That's free. You should never have to pay for it there. That never made sense to me. Do you offer men in bathrooms money for sex because it makes it less personal than if the other man/guy/boy was willing to do it for free? Does that make him less of a homosexual and more of a gay-for-pay and by extension that makes you less gay?

Please help us all to understand the twisted mind of a conservative as well as you've tried to help us liberals understand ourselves.

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myiq2xu @ 19:

If you weren't laughing you need to pull the stick outta yer ass.

My favorite: Fuck-up Fatigue!

He has his moments but I still think he's a prick with a strange on going Coulter crush. Flame me all you want it's just my opinion God forbid we don't agree.

Art, it's not a flame that I'm telling you that you're full of shit. Because you really are full of shit!!!! If you weren't full of shit, then I think you might have a case.

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Stanley Rosenthal @ 86:

Art, it's not a flame that I'm telling you that you're full of shit. Because you really are full of shit!!!! If you weren't full of shit, then I think you might have a case.

I'm sure that response took a lot of brain power go rest your head now Stanley. Glad to know I can bring out the best in you.

Stanley Rosenthal's picture

Art, try again.

Idiotland's picture

"Assuming you include yourself in the “active brain cell” population; How - precisely - have you been “screwed” the last 61/2 years? Are you unemployed? Are you without basic staples?"

Guess what? A lot more people over the last 6 years are unemployed and are without basic staples. That doesn't even include the price of virtually everything going up, the rotting infrastructure and the health care disaster. How about sending OUR money down endless rat holes in the middle east not to mention the dollar becoming increasingly worthless. Ever hear of the frog in the boiling water?

TonyinLA's picture

Can I get the 10 minutes of my life back? boring clown.

the WearyTraveler's picture

Wow. This nonsense makes me recall the reason that I don't give $$$ to most democrats. [Only Sen. Russ Feingold (WI)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russ_Feingold gets my dough, including his Progressive Patriots Fund
http://www.progressivepatriotsfund.com/Home.html]
"We're" not even remotely close to resolving "our" differences. Quotes are for the simple fact that I do not relate to this "Democratic Party." Pelosi: Stop sending me letters. Hillary: you, too. Lieberman: You're the worst.
Point is.... This squabbling started over a political comedy skit? Come on people...
This is precisely what dickheadcheney,richardpearle,billkristol, and all the other associated neoconservative "think tankers" rely on and revel in.

Maher does tell it like it is, I agree.
His delivery does turn off some in the viewing audience, I agree.

So what?

Until our elected leaders, local & national, develop spine, ...... you still won't be getting my money. Maybe some of them should go into lobbying so we don't have to see their faces, at least.

Accountability... What ever happened to that?

Um,... I should say that I do so enjoy the C&L videos & articles. I can get my news here & maybe dump cable. How many shades of vanilla can you eat, anyway?

foolme1ns's picture

USE THE POWER OF YOUR PURSE

Don't give the democrats anymore money until they put IMPEACHMENT back on the table and begin proceedings.

If we must drag them kicking and screaming into doing their duty, then so be it.

no longer a proud american's picture

yo, bill, please keep doing what you do. when this national fiasco finally comes to its conclusion, you will be one of those mentioned who had the COURAGE to help bring it to an end. you are more than a comedian or even a political pundit, you are a man of strength. some do what you do for the ratings. that is very evident from the bs that spews out of the other side. you do it because it's what you believe and you along with the rest of us fear for our once great country. thank you once again. ron.

Lesley's picture

Ah, the humourless torture-lovin' republicans show up to condemn Bill Maher for calling Bush - a piece of unconscionable SHIT - a rectal polyp. How insanely funny is that?

bill w's picture

RTLM @ 10:

Comedy is funny, but Bill Maher is hateful and angry - with a smirk.

You are confusing him with "W". W has the smirk and is NOT FUNNY. And speak of hateful and angry=bush (look past the smirk and you find hateful and angry)

jr's picture

Bill rocked in that set

majicman's picture

Stepen Colbert is Bill Maher LIGHT. He doesn't have the same size of balls as Maher. You are never confused to how Maher feels and he gives reason to support it.
If you're too friggin self-absorbed in your patriotism...enjoy it while your country lasts at this rate. This is what Maher is saying.

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Lesley @ 94:

Ah, the humourless torture-lovin' republicans show up to condemn Bill Maher for calling Bush - a piece of unconscionable SHIT - a rectal polyp. How insanely funny is that?

And Maher even alludes to just being able to say something like this make America beautiful. The trouble is, there should never be a President in power who actually does his job in such a way that he deserves this type of "PRAISE".

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the right wing inundates the liberal blogs with paid posters, albeit some of them are very bright. but in the end, the telling remark is that they really don't have anything to bring to the table. it's still the same old talking points. and they are wearing very thin. i only wish the site monitor would weed them out and let them spew their vile hate and thoughtless remarks on the right wing sites. [deleted], then surely you can exercise some discretion in exorcising these paid traitors. they have many platforms to give their paid propaganda. allow us ours without their diversionary tactics that take us way off base.

We try our best to get as many as we can, and as for banned subjects, that isn't up to the site team, it's John Amato's policy.

Art Pufkin's picture

I'm a Proud Democrat I just don't like Bill Maher I don't think he is genuine. I think it's really sad I can't have a difference of opinion without getting attacked here but I guess thats the kind of environment we live in.

TIKI AL's picture

Maybe RTLM (Republican Troll - Loves Money) could tell us who fragged Pat Tillman.

Were the 3 M-16 bullets fired from 10 yards in a 2 inch pattern in Pat's forehead from the same weapon? Were they even tested?

Were the soldier's M-16s tested to see if they fired the fatal shots?

Was Pat's diary burned because there were clues in it about the killer?

Was Pat's uniform burned because the killer's blood was on it?

If it was a murder and the coverup went as high as Rumsfeld, Rove, Cheney, and/or Bush, would they be accessories after the fact for a murder charge?

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majicman @ 97:

Stepen Colbert is Bill Maher LIGHT. He doesn't have the same size of balls as Maher. You are never confused to how Maher feels and he gives reason to support it.
If you're too friggin self-absorbed in your patriotism...enjoy it while your country lasts at this rate. This is what Maher is saying.

I love both Maher and Colbert, but to call Colbert out for not having the same size balls doesn't make much sense to me. You may have to rewatch his keynote address at 2006's Corespondents

Joshua's picture

Bill Maher is hilarious, I watched this when it premiered on HBO, thank God there is someone like Bill to say it like it is uncensored.

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NChomsky's picture

Good ol' Bill Maher...Mann Coulter's ex-boytoy....he comes across as fake...now if you want genuine, how about posting some Lewis Black clips C&L??? Now THAT man is funny.

andy's picture

pretty good but for me there is only one Bill and thats Bill Hicks.

p.s Bush lies lies and lies, but he hasn't lied about 9/11, it would be silly to think that ;)

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Popice @ 104:

majicman @ 97:

Stepen Colbert is Bill Maher LIGHT. He doesn't have the same size of balls as Maher. You are never confused to how Maher feels and he gives reason to support it.
If you're too friggin self-absorbed in your patriotism...enjoy it while your country lasts at this rate. This is what Maher is saying.

I love both Maher and Colbert, but to call Colbert out for not having the same size balls doesn't make much sense to me. You may have to rewatch his keynote address at 2006's Corespondents

QFT. Probably the largest attempt at giving W a dose of reality to his face Chimpy's had his whole presidency, or maybe his whole life?

JustSickOfIt's picture

"I don't hate America, just Americans"

How true that is. We live in a country where after the last 8 years of fucking Armageddon, there are still people who are going to vote rethugnican't. The party that loves money and hates the rest of you low life scum. Just look around you sometime, take a deep breath, and think about it. These are the TV watching, Mc Donalds slurping zombies that fucking voted for chimpy and Dickhead in the first place.

What is it going to take to wake this country up? Obviously incompetence, corruption, multiply felonies committed by the administration aren't enough to motivate most Americans. They get riled up about men having sex in the privacy of their own homes, but don't give a shit that a trillion dollars has gone missing in the last 7 years. Is it OK if GW butt fucks you and your whole family, as long as nobody enjoys it? That is the feeling I get.

People are too busy waving the flag in my face to see it isn't the country they are supporting. Supporting the troops has nothing to do with the troops. Planning for the future is a thing of the past. This is one fucked up place that is going nowhere. What a crying shame.

mudshark's picture

looks like Bill Maher brings out the best in trolls....if thats their best we have it made.But seriously folks......I liked it,but it was in part a little over the top.All in all a pretty good show.Maher must drive the darkside nuts....probably like what Coultergiest does to us.Yes yes yes...I do understand their is a huge difference between the two.some of his material is getting old though.

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Stanley Rosenthal @ 55:

Mailhead @ 54, I agree that RTLM's defending Ann Coulter says something in itself.

Lookie here, my peeps!!! We all know anyone who would even hint at "defending" coulter is quite hopeless. For chrissakes, she's been kicked off more reich wing sites, then this ROTFLM(close enough) has. No one out there on the right wants to even admit coulter is their SPOKESPERSON. They choose to disassociate from her because she has become an albatross around the right's neck.

All trolls should receive the same treatment that the right now gives coulter..........just ignore. There are far too many people allowing this distraction, and it will become much more prevelent as the '08 election draws nearer. Just leave them dangling with their lone, pathetic, comment.............GIVE THEM NOTHING. The site monitor will deal with IT.

Personally, there were some spot on lines from Maher, but I expected a lot more umph!! We were slightly disappointed, but still enjoyed.

Heading out to the Gulf to look for Tarpon, and say hello to the Dolphins. Stay cool, and remain rightous in the face of trolls.

D.G. Bowman's picture

Bill Maher and Jon Stewart are the two comics who really take it to the Bush Crime Family.

Lewis Black? Can't stand him.

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RTLM @ 29:

bronco214 @ 22:

RTLM
People with active brain cells are outraged at having been screwed for the last 61/2 years. To express that is not hate.

bronco,
Assuming you include yourself in the "active brain cell" population; How - precisely - have you been "screwed" the last 61/2 years? Are you unemployed? Are you without basic staples?
You obviously have high speed internet which, demographically speaking, puts you at a higher education and income level. So I wonder how it is that you have been screwed.(?)
Other than vehemently disagreeing with Bush and not getting your way.
I believe bubba above said something about conservatives (white trash) living in "fantasy rage land". I believe its the Left that lives in Fantasy Rage Land - given the language of the left blogs. Not necessarily here at Crooks and Liars, but at other sites like Huffpo and Kos. Where they suggest and hope for the death of the President and others.
I think that is Fantasy Rage Land.

So, like many othetr right wingers you equate income or your standard of living with moral rightness. When are people like you going to open your lizard like eyelids and take a look at the facts on the ground?

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

To whomever said that Steven Colbert is "Bill Maher Light," this is incorrect. Steven Colbert is Bill O'Reilly!

Zenrage's picture

RTLM @ 10:

Comedy is funny, but Bill Maher is hateful and angry - with a smirk.

Wow, are you stupid. You must truly be a complete social parasite to believe that.

Sorry to disappoint you, troll, but no matter which way or how much you social parasites try to sell it, all types of hate are not the same. The hate that liberals possess is the hate required for progressive change. In order to change the status quo of anything, one must first "hate" that thing in some small degree it order to justify changing it. After all, if one loves an object just the way it is, then there's no reason to change it.

The difference being the rationality of the hate involved and the potential for change. The social parasites throughout history, like yourself, have always hated things about people that they can't change; like biological features, such as: the color of their skin, their gender, or their sexuality (unless you want to keep pretending that gender has no influence on how brains develop and that there are no gender disorders that promote homosexuality). Or you irrationally hate people for where they came from like the Irish, or the Polish, or the Japanese and German Americans that trash like you put into concentration camps during WWII.

And what do you social parasites use to support your irrational hate? Only the most superficial of reasoning, of course: my skin is whiter, my family is richer, my last name is more prominent, there are more of my people, my invisible sky god told me so. Truly pathetic - in every conceivable sense.

Liberals, on the other hand, only target philosophies - which are not biological and are subject to constant and regular change. I know you social parasites like to believe your invisible boogeyman (aka god) exists and that there's some kind of magical ether inside your body that connects you to it, but unfortunately, while actual science has been progressing forward you haven't come up with a single shred of evidence to support the existence of your magical sky giant. Your notion of "god" is not a social default and it doesn't matter how many people before you believed in that fairy tale throughout history, your god still does not exist by any kind of social, political or scientific default.

Why do socially parasitic conservatives hate change? Its simply because they can't compete on a level playing field with other people. They need that unearned, automatic leverage on everyone else to make their insecure little egos feel like they're actually accomplishing anything.

You and your conservative brethren are nothing special, RTLM. You're like a football team that stands in the middle of an empty stadium proclaiming that you're #1, while simultaneously barring any other team from entering the field.

This is also related to why you socially parasitic conservatives like to say that "Liberals hate America". Liberals hate America in the same way good parents hate their children when they misbehave. Parents want to see positive change in the children and so they choose to hate the behavior of the individual child and then implement the force necessary to guide the child towards the path they choose for them. Is it the same loathing, irrational hate that the objective moralists in this country have for minorities and subcultures? Of course not and yet, you conservative parasites keep linking the two in hopes of promoting or maintaining your philosophical bullshit.

Have a nice day convincing yourself you are actually worth anything to society.
Zenrage

PS. If you want to act like a parasite, then don't be shocked when you're treated like a parasite. American culture has iconic ways of dealing with parasites, too.

PPS. RAID!! *BOOM*

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Popice @ 104:

majicman @ 97:

Stepen Colbert is Bill Maher LIGHT. He doesn't have the same size of balls as Maher. You are never confused to how Maher feels and he gives reason to support it.
If you're too friggin self-absorbed in your patriotism...enjoy it while your country lasts at this rate. This is what Maher is saying.

I love both Maher and Colbert, but to call Colbert out for not having the same size balls doesn't make much sense to me. You may have to rewatch his keynote address at 2006's Corespondents

Without a doubt...Colbert at his very very best but since his opp on BillO's show where he bailed badly, he's all about Stevie C and won't rock that boat. No my friend...Steve has one less than Lance. Okay...they're even. Hell, it's Sunday and I'll be nice.

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RTLM @ 29:

bronco214 @ 22:

RTLM
People with active brain cells are outraged at having been screwed for the last 61/2 years. To express that is not hate.

bronco,
Assuming you include yourself in the "active brain cell" population; How - precisely - have you been "screwed" the last 61/2 years? Are you unemployed? Are you without basic staples?
You obviously have high speed internet which, demographically speaking, puts you at a higher education and income level. So I wonder how it is that you have been screwed.(?)
Other than vehemently disagreeing with Bush and not getting your way.
I believe bubba above said something about conservatives (white trash) living in "fantasy rage land". I believe its the Left that lives in Fantasy Rage Land - given the language of the left blogs. Not necessarily here at Crooks and Liars, but at other sites like Huffpo and Kos. Where they suggest and hope for the death of the President and others.
I think that is Fantasy Rage Land.

True head in the sand stuff! Obviously you dont get around the "internets" much. Go over to Red State or any of the righty sites and you will see both language and more. Threats of violence are not uncommon, which is not accepted here. I dont know how many times Ive seen it suggested that someone be taken care of on Red State, in veiled language and otherwise. Now, Mrs Ingalls, put down the warshing for half a tick and weigh an f-bomb versus the threat of a real one. You'll find both on left and right sites, but this site at least edits out the threats. You may now return to your mock indignation.

Donald Waits's picture

My main objection to Bill is his chuckle at his own
remarks. Preaching to the choir. BUT humor has
always been more accurate than seriousness.
I tend to put Mahr in the same catagory as Michael
Moore. Good points, but so obnoxious that they
might push people into the very camp they hate.
Steve Colbert scores more points just by being
really funny AND spot-on about Fox News. Jon
Stewart dosen't have to make anything up. He
just shows what the idiots are really saying and
with an eyebrow lets YOU fill in the blanks. Mahr
(God love him) often repulses me.

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andy @ 108:

p.s Bush lies lies and lies, but he hasn't lied about 9/11, it would be silly to think that ;)

Jesus Christ on a pogo-stick!

No-one is saying that 9/11 wasn't an inside job because they trust the word of GWB.

They're saying that 9/11 wasn't an inside job because THERE IS FUCK ALL EVIDENCE THAT IT WAS!

Seems that using strawman arguments is not limited to the right.

diana's picture

an inside job????
watch 9/11 ripple effect
http://911rippleeffect.com/

[...] Watch Video [...]

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Stanley Rosenthal @ 16:

I'm sorry, I misread the comment I was commenting about.

Site Monitor, please delete this and my last comment (16 and 15 as numbered at this time.)

what did I DO?!!

the libertine's picture

Bill Maher rules,South Park drools.

the libertine's picture

Did you you guys here about,what happened to that couple in Asheville, North Carolina.They had the american flag flying upside down,and some dumbass cop tryed to beat them up.Larry Flynt wore an american flag as underwear,whats the big deal.

Zenrage's picture

Just read it, libertine.

That cop should be in prison, not that couple. He abused his authority and that couple fought back like real Americans.

MailHead's picture

Does anyone have a link to that story?

Zenrage's picture

Here is the fox news report on the story.

Zenrage's picture

... and here is the full story..

realist's picture

I like Bill Maher and I think he speaks the truth, but his stand-up wasn't that funny and was pretty uncomfortable to watch. He seemed too self-conscious. I got the sense that he knew that he wasn't being received that well and/or was underprepared. I felt embarrassed for him. Then again, no one bats 1.000, so he just had an off night, or tour, or whatever.

libby's picture

Hilarious. Bill Maher is a genius

MailHead's picture

I hope C&L covers the fakeumentary Shooting Michael Moore. I just saw Kevin Leffler on CSPAN and he's a real thick scumbag.

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Chip @ 31:

The self-serving remark is bull.

Bill Maher is right on the mark. American's are so insular. I just bet the biggest Bush fans have never been out of the country. If you've traveled the world (and I don't mean on a military mission) you would realize or probably agree that the world does not revolve around us. This "we are the greatest attitude" is why we are fucking up the world.

The neo-con experiment to make the US the supreme superpower is a chaotic failure. It's really an embarrasment. How many military theaters did we engage in in WWII? And we can't even get control of Iraq in the same amount of time. Like I said it's an embarrasment.

And you know what I notice when I travel the world? Americans are fat pigs. You don't really notice it until you leave the country and come back here. It says alot about the "greatest country in the world" who can't even take care of their own people.

Right on target! I have traveled to many countries in Western Europe: England, France, Belgium, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, etc. (you know, all of the countries that Rummy dismissed as "old Europe" a few years back) In general, people there are thinner and a whole lot less obsessed with their own importance. They work reasonable hours, take long vacations and don't shoot as many of their fellow citizens to death as we do. Granted, their countries don't have the same kind of wealth as the U.S. but, fuck it, worshiping the almighty dollar has some big limitations.

The world doesn't revolve around us.

ysbaddaden's picture

I like Bill Maher more than John Stewart. Albeit they may be somewhat dissimilar in their approaches and styles. I've heard audiences and even guests gasp at some of what Maher says in monologues. That makes it all the more funnier.

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MailHead @ 67:

Stanley Rosenthal @ 57:

We will, we will, heat you....

I'd like to teach the world to heat....

I'm a heater, he's a heater, she's a heater, we're all heaters, wouldn't you like to be a heater to....

I'd druther be a hooter.

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