Hardball: On President Bush's "Cashing Out"
Ah, those brave, brave neo-cons fighting on the front of public opinion...Chris Matthews brings on VoteVets.org's Jon Soltz to discuss the perception behind Bush's plans for after leaving the White House. But we can't have someone representing the thousands of soldiers putting their life on the line for Bush's occupation on without the "balance" of bringing on a neo-con apologist, can we? Enter Ron Christie, who prissily informs Soltz that he has every right to speak for troop morale because he's sat in the Oval Office. I now know why Christie only commands $5-20 thousand for speaking engagements (check the link): his talking points are stale and well past their "sell by" date. Sorry, Ron, not even Tweety buys it anymore.
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SOLTZ: This is a president that is less committed to defeating Al Qaeda than his obsession with his legacy and more importantly, this is a man after his administration cares more about cashing out than taking care of the people he sent to war. Let me tell you something: that war might end for George Bush. That war never ends for those of us who fought in it. It never ends for us.
This guys is pathetic... What is it with these Stockholm Victim closet cases the wingnuts love to have working for them.
Looking ahead to the money??? Great, just what all hsi constituents need to hear, especially the ones losing family in the Iraq War. Nice!
heh heh heh...
George W. Bush's Speaking Engagements... what a great drawing card!!
maybe he can get Milli Vanilli to open for him.
"Let me tell you something: that war might end for George Bush. That war never ends for those of us who fought in it. It never ends for us."
I have always said that, in addition to the prediction that those who have lost limbs and suffered other physical and mental damage and are still full of 'kill 'em all' will someday realize what they have been subjected to, after it all becomes a little more clear, and they mature a little.
Are his eyes even more crossed these days... how can anybody try to defend Bu$h??
Christie is a wanker.
If working for politicians is the equivilent of military service I deserve a bronze star.
First bush fills the coffins, then he wants to fill the coffers. Reprehensible.
Ron Christie, as I remember basically compared his 'service'
sitting in an office as somehow equal to those actually fighting
in the the military ..... amazing!
He has Michelle Malkin's Eyes.
And her squeely little voice.
You just don't understand that the President has FEELINGS about his responsibility...he UNDERSTANDS....
V V
Could George find a more effiminate mouthpiece?
"This is hard work."
If you close your eyes, Ron sounds like Richard Simmons.
Kudos to Jon and votevets. Ron Christie will say anything to get a pat on the back from the beltway dinner party set
I'm repeating my post: That cockeyed blabber mouth republican, Ron Christie, chose to serve his country by working in the republican party! Does anybody know if he had ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ issues?
Ron Christie must have been giving lessons to "Buzz Peterson."
As an African-American it makes my skin crawl when I see guys like this along with Condoleeza Rice and Colin Powell and various black republicans spewing nonsense in the defense of a bunch of criminal ass crackers. I wish Malcolm X's ghost would posess these fuckers and make em' bleed from their eyes every time they talk this crap. Equal opportunity shit suckers.
As a gay man, I'm totally ashamed for that prissy little Christie sycophant. I'm sure he's paying his "dues" to get a B-level ticket to the Republican country club. Maybe he can serve drinks. In the immortal words of Bug Bunny, what a mar-oon.
I have never heard an African American work so hard to sound pasty white. He reminds me of that old Eddie Murphy stand up routine of imitating the black guy trying to sound white.
It's so laughable listening to 'cross eyed' Ronny rationalize debating with Jon because "I choose public service as a career."
Hilarious.
Is everybody in the Republican party gay?
and again Jon Soltz proves that he's the best TV presence on the side of truth we've got. He has my utter respect and admiration.
cynic @ 20:
Not Hillary.
So...Washington Politicians(tm) DO know more than the "troops on the ground?" I guess only when the troops are opposed to the war and the politicians are in the Oval Office, not Capitol Hill.
What a sick fuck that Christie is.
Christie's job in the WH was probably as interior designer. I can't stand him. He is on MSNBC a lot, judging from different clips I've seen here and over at Think Progress.
He acts like the jerk in school who always had his pencils sharpened just so, and his crayons never broke--a first class brown-noser. How long did he work at the WH....6 months? What does he do for a living now? He offers nothing.
He's straight out of "A Chorous Line". Another self-loathing gay, like Larry Craig and Ken Mehlman.
Ron Christie....indeed he is a patriot for bravely visiting the reichhouse.
Jon deserved to have the whole time to himself. We all know what Christie is going to say so why waste time allowing him to say it?
Speaking engagements?! SPEAKING engagements for pay?! Doesn’t one have to be able to structure sentences on the fly, or at least read what someone has written for you off the teleprompter in order to get paid for speaking engagements? Chimp can do neither.
Ron Christie....another closeted self loathing repuglican. can't wait to see who's toe he's tapping when he gets caught. just hope that it's not an underage one.
Who would pay money to hear Bush speak? Now, put him in a dunk tank, and I'd line up for that.
Of course Ronnie has no problem that the "war president" is thinking about his speaking tour following his presidency. Ron Christie....typical anti-American loser who puts his pathetic party ahead of the Country.
Gort's right.
Should be "Reading Engagements"
This week, My Pet Goat for $5000 per plate.
Apparently there is a wide perception among reich-wingers that acting as a political act is "serving your country".
Christie is pathetic. He's clearly defending Bush regardless of the merit of the question. If Bush said that he farts thunder and shits lightning, Christie would explain how sincere and "in touch" the President is.
Soltz was good, but I wish he would have made the case tht the whole administration is based on the concept of "cashing in". Since day 1, the Cheney policy has been how are we going to suck as much booty out of the treasury. Exxon and Enron and Duke Energy were a good start, but when it was possible to start a war Cheney had dollars signs in his eyes. He got Blackwater and Halliburton and Bechtel hooked up before we even invaded. I wonder if anyone from Unocal talked to Cheney about the decision to go into Afghanistan. Even after Katrina hit, Cheney called up KBR for ice cubes. Social security privatization, medicare prescription drug plan, faith-based initiatives... what's the common thread? Hmmm... well, how about trillions of taxpayer dollars going into banks in the Cayman Islands?
George has been watching this for seven years. He's just itching for his slice of the pie. His old man must be shaking his head thinking, "Damnit, George, 50 grand is small potatoes. 'Infrastructure services,' boy, its like printing money."
Christie, get out of the stall, you are on in five minutes.
What a pathetic excuse for a human being.
-GSD
Another good point stonicus. Will Bush have as many invitations as Clinton due to his problems with literacy?
While boosh is cashing out, our soldiers are cashing in their chips.
You can tell Christie is utterly disgusted that he has to debate a US vet. Christie, like every other reich-winger, finds service of the country to be a lowly choice for the peasants.
I'm so sick of these Repub PUNKS bragging about their so called public service . Nothing could be further from the truth , they are nothing but SELF SERVING BUSH KISS ASSES . Sign that piece of shit up , put a uniform on him and see how long that coward lasts.
"Enter Ron Christie, who prissily informs Soltz that he has every right to speak for troop morale because he’s sat in the Oval Office."
Its laughable to hear Christie even make such a claim. The only "military" Christie and the rest in the White House have been around their entire lives is probably the Boy Scouts. When it comes to military matters, I will take what Captain Soltz has to say anytime.
Gort @ 28:
Dan @ 3:
Yep, he has to split the money with Rove, who'll have his hand up his ass playing puppetteer.
hmm, i didn't know they made gay oreos that bitchy.
Joe O. @ 40:
Was this their scout master?
http://wallstreetjackass.typepad.com/raptureready/images/big_gay_al_scou...
Christie's another penis whisperer.
Ron Christie argues that we should listen to Bush talk, not watch his walk, then says not to pay attention to what Bush says, only what Ron says that Bush says.
The only way he could've done better is to show his butt-cheek scars from sitting in the Oval Office.
dave @ 42:
Awesome Dave.
I find it unbelieveable that anyone could justify this latest Bushism.
To point out the obvious: any person why has to lie to themselves about who they are (doubly in Chrisite's case) is going to be able to sit there and spew B.S. shamelessly. He must be in denial about the FACT that the GOP is anti-gay and anti-black. So, it follows that he is in denial about what a lying, sociopathic waste of life W is. Further, I ask that we be cautious in our rhetoric, as some of these comments sound anti-gay themselves. I understand that it may be the hypocrisy, not the homosexuality, that offends. However, I'm spelling it out: liberals hate gays who shill for the party that hates gays, they do NOT hate gays for being gay.
If and when GW Bush goes on a speaking tour post-WPE (worst president ever), the only difference will be:
a. he will get paid
b. no city will foot the bill for the infamous "free speech zone" detention centers
It was worth watching just to see Christie get upset. I love seeing his blood boil. It puts a smile on my face.
Curtilingus @ 36:
I can see it now...
Clinton to speak at the delegation of International Scientists on the floor of the UN.
Bush to speak at the opening of a new Wal-Mart in Crawford, Texas.
You people, you're soooo....cynical. If you'd sat at the foot of this President, and heard him tell me how bad he feels about fucking up the entire country, you'd want him to make as big a speaker's fee as is humanly possible. None of you can possibly understand this President until, like me, you too have kneeled at his loafers and heard him explain how Jesus instructed him to fix the Middle East and read most of our emails. As my friend Colonel Jessep told me once:
Dr. Matt @ 38:
I think you're probably right about that. It seems to me that many Republican political hacks regard military service with the same disdain they hold for manual labor and low-paying "pink collar" work. They think it's just for those too stupid to get "better" jobs.
I might add that I've seen this attitude in *some* politicos on the liberal-left side too.
BIGBONEDED @ 39:
I agree. As a veteran (USMC 1989-1993) I want to see what christie and the rest of the Neocons are made of eventhough all of us know the answer already. They are simply cowards who use the bravery of other men and women to fulfill that which they never had the guts to do themselves.
He’ll be lucky if he gets a minimum-wage gig as a greeter at a Vegas casino, and he’ll be shadowed both in popularity and IQ by the drooling punch-drunk ex-heavy-weight boxer greeting guests next to him.
Ron, Ron, Ron - didn't you get the memo? George Bush doesn't care about black people!
Come on brother! Wake the hell up!
i can't parse my words, be polite, or curtail my absolute vitriol:
i fucking hate ron christie
this fucking coward, this shit-tongued errand boy, this compromised shill, this neofascist pig-testicle is the epitome of everything wrong with our political system.
that said, this was one of the few times i have seen anyone rattle ron christie. normally his ignorant, smug, condescension is immune from logic, reality and sound judgment. but soltz, god love him, really rattled chrisities cage.
and... why the fuck does chris "spittle" matthews use the same discredited apologists over and over again? serisouly? why? is that all he can find to defend the neofascist govt?
Stonicus @ 51:
No Clinton will speak at the dedication of the Ron Jeremy memorial library and George Bush will address the flat earth society.
Christie is a weenie at only $20 grand a speech. Maybe he doesn't speak in front of the right people. Bill Clinton routinely gets $250,000 and sometimes as much as $400,000 per speech in front of various lobby groups. No wonder Bushie jr is ready to go on the "speaking" circut; Bill made $4.1 million since 2000.
We don't know how much he got for his joint appearance with President Bush (sr) yet in front of a telecoms lobby group (http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/31420/145/) but I'm sure it was more than $20,000.
Bill Clinton's fortune is unique because we can see how much the political figures rake in after leaving office because his wife (you may have heard of her) works in the Senate and has to disclose the information so that we know if there is any possible conflict of interest (perish the thought.) It is kind of interesting although hard to follow, the numbers don't even look real after awhile. (You can look for an article called "Clinton's golden voice" in the Washington Post.)
Events $7,673,333.00 43
Media $5,172,194.00 31
Investments $4,275,000.00 26
Israel/Holocaust/Synagogue $3,824,999.00 28
Technology $3,135,000.00 18
Education $2,013,100.00 13
Network Marketing $1,870,000.00 8
Healthcare $1,675,000.00 14
Real Estate $1,275,000.00 8
General Industry $1,150,000.00 6
Shopping Centers $950,000.00 4
Executive training $875,000.00 7
Columbia $800,000.00 4
Hotel $775,000.00 5
Sports $750,000.00 6
Insurance $650,000.00 4
Not classified $500,000.00 2
Banking $450,000.00 3
Import/export $450,000.00 3
Lawyers $425,000.00 3
Auto $337,500.00 2
China $300,000.00 1
Alchoholic beverage $250,000.00 1
Management consulting $250,000.00 2
Non-Profit $250,000.00 2
Mass mailing $200,000.00 2
Mining $200,000.00 1
Dairy $150,000.00 1
International $150,000.00 1
Labour $150,000.00 1
Manufacturing $140,000.00 1
Travel $125,000.00 1
Woman $125,000.00 1
Campaign support $100,000.00 1
Children $100,000.00 1
"Christie is pathetic. He’s clearly defending Bush regardless of the merit of the question. If Bush said that he farts thunder and shits lightning, Christie would explain how sincere and “in touch” the President is."
Must be true.
Romney has 5 of them.
ysbaddaden @ 43:
Probably :lol:
That South Park Scout Master has the hairdo and mustache that almost resembles Adolf Hitler. :lol:
i am beginning to think--with ron christie's creepy, cult-like worship of george bush--that christie might own some sort of blue dress....
or maybe christie has an oval office-wide stance? or maybe he is the new west wing gannon/guckert?
(Correction to the previous post, Bill made $41 million.)
Does GE have any idea how foolish Tweety is making them look? What a clownact. The only time that show has any credibility is when that fawning neocon apologist isn't on it.
Olbermann's ratings should have clued these cretins into the fact that propaganda is nowhere near as big a draw as is the truth. Nobody is buying the manipulative bullshit. Not Tweety's BS. Not Ron Christie's BS.
Bush will not really have to speak at all. David Letterman has quite a collection of some of his Great Speeches. Theu'll just rerun them
Joe O. @ 61:
that's completely unfair to the scouts. whatever have they done to you?
Samson- @ 62:
I think chrisssstie likes playing with Jorge's "cigar"?
Give it ten years at this rate and everyone will be snickering when someone in the administration talks like a heterosexual.
69 is better than first anyday!
Curtilingus @ 68:
Bush's Administration? Ten years from now?
Ok, now I'm in danger of becoming a bedwetter.
Samson- @ 57:
Now, now... there's no reason to disparage a perfectly good pig testicle.
Hopefully, the only way W can give speeches for money is while on work furlough from Leavenworth and then the proceeds given to the victims of his crimes or their survivors.
Old Billy @ 71:
Besides, there can't be very many pig testicles that can speak in complete sentences and are willing to sell themselves out on TV.
Samson 57
Bravo! Christie makes my blood boil in a way unmatched by any other Bush-fellator with the possible exceptions of Ed Rogers and Melanie Morgan. I wonder if he would have been as condescending if they were all in the same studio and Solz were in range to slap the little bitch.
Kudos to Mr. Stoltz for standing his ground, of course he's faced much tougher battles than this, but I always find him on message with the troops and the opposite side of neocon warmongers spinning the Bush legacy and the surge indefinitely ad naseum. Stick to your powerful and streamlined message, Mr. Stoltz and the chickenhawk and the neocon will soon let slip their collusion with oil and big money.
Is Ron Christie out of the closet?
Future Transcript of dubyah's post-pResidency speaking tour:
Herr dubyah: aaahhh, eerrrrr, terrra, terra, liberals, ah, er, ah, Gore invented the internets, Mazzera, democracy in the Iraq and US Americans saving the childrens, errr, ah, won't get fooled again, sadddam tried to kill my poppa!!! Decider! pffft, weeeerrrrrr, Don't not misunderestimated me.
...and the opposite side...
Should read "..while the opposite side...
Ron Christie says he saw how Bush talk about his solemn responsibilities in the oval office.
The rest of us saw how Bush's actions betrayed our democracy and our military in public.
The proof is in Bush's actions, not in his posing and acting abilities.
Ron Christie was corrupted by access, and blinded by his own arrogance.
He apparently doesn't realize how foolish he looks.
Chickenhawks neocons come in many colors. He's serving his country just not on the front lines in wars he champions, how many times have we heard that one. On a side note listen to the guy talk, sounds like another closeted Republican self-loathing homo to me. Christie's been been spinning so long he''s done gone cross eyed. Maybe he got his talking point to say "Democrat Party" directly from Bush on many of is private meetings. Of course you knew the inevitable "Bill Clinton" was coming. And no Christie most people to get an audience with King as you do, but they do get sent of to the King's war that he and his kids would never fight in. The same war you won't fight in because you are a coward and too busy shilling for the Republic Party. Bush doesn't want to address his subjects, but since you are carrying his water he'll let you into the castle.
It's called acting Joe.
"I've sat in the oval office, I've sat in HIS chair and once he let me get under HIS desk."
Personally, I'm not a big fan of Soltz' implication that his wearing the uniform gives him some greater right than other US citizens.
Overall, though, Tweety did a miserable job of mediating the discussion. Tweety regularly allowed the right-winger to interrupt Soltz.
Old Billy @ 71:
Speaking of testicles, I'm sure he's had more than a few resting on his chin.
cynic @ 52:
wow... sad, but true... there really is no way to break through such hubristic thinking with reason is there...?
Jenny'O @ 82:
"And let me tell ya, King dubyah has a VERY wide stance"
I'm sorry but sitting in the oval office IS NOT the same as being a soldier.
This mouth piece is just plan stupid.
And SOMEONE NEEDS TO BRING UP to these people who have their nose
stuck so far up the president's ass that they think shit smells like cinnabuns, when they bring up that Hillary et. al.
believed the (stilted) intel that they got - that MOST HAVE NOW SAID that they were
WRONG!
The Presnut has not.
p.s. I was a little surprised that a similar debate didn't arise out of Tony Snow's announcement that he was leaving his $160,000/year WH job in order to make more money for his family. I thought that was a particularly callous excuse for ending his public service, given that he's been a frontman for the effort to extend duty for military personnel, and to extend the Iraq war.
Ron Christie is proof that black people can be just as evil as white people. He's a symbol for racial equality!
plooger @ 83:
To speak on behalf of soldiers in uniform? I'd say it does.
Curtilingus @ 58:
You stand corrected...bush-lite will be in Pittsburg, Tennessee to speak at the Creation
Museum...You know, talking to the dinasours who co-existsed w/man and survived on Noah's
Ark only 6,000 years ago..
well, it's always good to see that the right-wing support for our troops comes to a screeching halt when they dare to question policy.
or when they ask for equipment.
or when they return from several tours with PTSD.
or when they have medical issues.
or when they need a job.
or when they need retirement benefits.
or... well, just about any time.
but the president takes his "solemn responsibility" "very seriously". right.
Ron Christie reminds me of a character in Mad TV . . . gangster barbershop quartet was the segment . . . i digress.
plooger @ 83:
He always does. Ron Christie is the most egregious interrupter.
I'm positive that right-wing pundits discovered a few years back that TV hosts will never shun or kick off a guest for interrupting everybody and hogging the time. Right-wingers on shows like "Hardball" *always* interrupt the left-winger. They laugh and snort and say "OH, PLEASE!" They are incredibly disrespectful and arrogant... and it's deliberate. It conveys confidence, which (to a lot of ignorant red-state voters) implies rightness.
IrresistibleB1tch @ 92:
And prez. bush-lite also finds that his job is "tough and hard, and involves hard work;
everyday working hard to overcome tough problems...."
Ron Christie is an embarrassment to human race. If you listen to him closely he sounds like he is in an echo chamber, well it's because he has his head up Bush's butt so far. He repeats the same BS in every TV appearance that he makes. What a puke! Yes, it takes the same courage to be involved in discussions in the oval office as it does to walk the streets of Baghdad as a soldier. Thee people are pathetic. They are not Americans, they are idiotic followers on a neo-con cult that has lost all touch of human decency and morality, especially when it comes to international diplomacy. God help us through these next 500 days!
Prezidunce Poopypants... What an a$$hole!
Terry B @ 96:
You're right... I haven't listened to such an effed up idiot ever!
If Presnut Bush takes his “solemn responsibility” “very seriously”. then why are we allowed more public mourning over those that died in the Virginnia Tech shootings than our fighting men and women who die in Iraq and Afghanistan????
The pres is a cold and callous prick who only cares for his wallet, his family, his friends and those in his tax bracket (like most Republicans) .. and not letting our dead soldiers be publicly mourned and honored is part of the face of his robber barron care for others.
Biggus Diggus @ 76:
Put him back in the closet, lock it and dispose of the key. :)
here's some interesting stuff from his "Leading Authorities [insert giggle here] Speakers Bureau" page:
Prior to joining the Vice President's staff, Christie briefly held the position of Counsel to U.S. Senator George Allen (R-VA).
[...]
Mr. Christie has been profiled as one of the "10 rising stars to watch" in Roll Call for his work as a Senior Vice President at a leading K Street lobbying firm.
[...]
Mr. Christie brings his impressive political experience to the podium, where he reveals the trials and triumphs he experienced as White House staffer in the Bush administration.
[...]
Christie lives with his wife, Jennifer, in Old Town Alexandria.
this is just a treasure trove of irony, isn't it?! :-)
I don't know which is more reprehensible and loathsome. The fact that after all the years of negligence and incompetence, the WarPig still has apologists. How do these people manage to walk around without being harmed? The fact that after all these years, the very people who are elected to keep a president in check have done nothing to unseat our current poor excuse for a president. Or the fact that after sending 4,000 of our kids to their deaths by the time he's out of office, the WarPig is in anxious anticipation of how much money he will make giving speeches as an ex-president. Only in AmeriKa could a person cash-in on miserably failing in the highest office in our country and manage to leave that office without being held accountable....which he probably won't be.
Crosseye Christie is still trying to trowel lipstick on the pig that is George Wanker Bush.
It is just frakking pathetic anymore; and he needs an intervention.
No this also happens in tin plate 3rd world dictatorships...
(which is not to say I don't see coming parallels)
I hate Ron Christie. I can't stand to look at that shameless little cheney sycophant. He does nothing but spew propoganda and the official party line. He makes me sick.
Ron is atypical neocon out of touch with reality. I love the whining "could you stop being so rude" Gimme a break, he's actually arguing that he has served the public just as much as a veteran of a war. Sweet Ron, how's your neocon reality treating you? "um, um excuse me, I have sat in the oval office" oooooh I'm so impressed, I sit in a square office, ooooooh. What a dumbass.
John should have asked him if he ever sat in the hummer office, or had a ied blow up under his desk, I am so sick of these talking point robots.
I think Ron seems like a Craig Republican... if you know what I mean.
A few observations.
1. Christie blames the interviewer for Bush's remarks. Bush's answer proves that the speech circuit is on his mind. He wants to get our of Washington ASAP. 1/20/09 can't come soon enough for Bush. That answer is very revealing.
2. John Soltz is awesome at memorizing talking points and dishing them out at lightning-fast speed. He is teh greatest.
3. When Bush speaks of replenishing the 'ol coffers, what does he mean? He came-into the White House as a millionaire, thanks in-part to the cash payout he got by selling his share of the Texas Rangers. If you think abiout it, Bill Clinton might be the last president ever to enter the White House as a non-millionare. And exactly how did the coffers get smaller (if in fact they did)? It's not as if W had an independent prosecutor up his ass for four years, or had legal bills estimated at a million dollars. If I recall correctly, those big legal bills Bill had almost prevented him and Hillary from buying a house in Westchester. Until the bank realized that Clinton would make a lot of money on the speech circuit. Or maybe Bush is talking about campaign coffers? Is he going to run for another office? What is up with that remark?
Don't bother applying for Tony Snow's job, Mr. Christie.
This Ron Christie is a pain in my soul. To his credit, even Tweetie wasn't buying this bullshit. At least until he gets another glimpse of Bush's codpiece and goes into a swoon.
is that Ken Mehlman with face paint on?
I'd give Bush $50,000 right now if he left office right now. Heck I'd throw in an additional $10K if he took Cheney with him.
Is Craig the guy who couldn't come out of the water closet?
Ron Christie was a slave trader.
Soemthing else about Ron Christie. If he is as lost in hero worship of Bush that he appears to be, I would doubt him to be capable of distinguishing the difference in value between words or affectation and actual deeds. Bush is a manipulator to his last dying breath. He has been manipulating the weak-minded and gulible his entire life.
As a sociopath, maintaining a public pretense of trustworthiness is the most vital survival skill any sociopath can develop. Sociopaths are in the business of predation, specifically preying upon the good will and innocence of his (or her) victims. No such predator can be successful if it he cannot attain some level of trust from the intended victim. The greater the amount of trust extracted, the further into the trap can the victim be lured. Without that trust, the sociopath has no avenue open to begin the manipulation process that allows him to begin using the victim as his newest object or tool. I have yet to meet a sociopath who isn't an adept at affecting the pretenses of humanity. That the trust which such pretenses gain is always betrayed seems not to matter to some of those who are the betrayed. That particular type of victim makes the most useful tools. See where this is going?
If, as Christie so indignantly proclaims, Bush's protestations of concern, conscience, grief or whatever were genuine and as deeply felt as Christie would have us believe, Bush's every action would be different than what they have been. There is absolutely no congruence between what is professed and what is lived. None. All pretenses toward humanity are just that: pretense. Theater.
Which, says something about Ron Christie, who is a smart guy. I have not followed him close enough to say whether he is himself a manipulating predator, in which case, his performance was a cold act of calculation designed to manipulate viewers who might be in danger of thinking for themselves. I'm betting, however - on brief exposure to him, that he is a very high scoring rightwing authoritarian to whom the neocon cause serves as the equivalent of a psuedo-religion. I'm also betting that he scores fairly highly as a social dominator. All told, he is going to be totally, near-mindlessly submissive to the authority that represents his view or side - awaiting his turn to be a top dog, and his capacity for tyranny will match whatever power he achieves in life. He is utterly dogmatic, delusionally dishonest due to a capacity to multiply-compartmentalize his perceptions, self-righteous by virtue of his being a true believer in the psuedo-religion, interested in facts only as a weapon to be used against enemies(not for any value those facts might have as guides or clues to truth) and I think that fear holds a large part of his awareness. I am going to study this man.
If, he is the predator type, or a predator-in-wating, we may be looking at Karl Rove's replacement as regards who is doing Bush's thinking for him. For the balance of the Bush Tyranny, meet the new Bush's Brain.
Little fucker accused SOLTZ of filibustering???? FUCK YOU, YOU PANSY!
I HATE these people! They make me mad enough to use naughty words. TWERPS, all of them.
mhj555 @ 103:
That is when Christie isn't troweling lipstick on his own face.
How do we get a chance to bitch-slap this effeminate fuck? His apologist attitude for Bush made me insanely angry. It's time we publish a watchlist of the rightwing neocons and when the media uses them to debate important issues, tell the media to stop using them.
"Prissily"? Sounds like a slightly veiled dig at his apparent homosexuality to me.
I just wrote Chris and asked about the irony. Why have a guy on who makes money from speaking engagements to ask him about the President making money from speaking engagements? Do they (in the media) really think we are too stupid to google "Ron Christie" and find out he charges up to $20,000 for a speech? If so, they have a big wake up call coming.
I am disgusted that Christie would compare his cushy public service in the White House to John's heroic service, and I am not even in the Military. What a jackass
D. Lane @ 119:
Nothing to do with sexuallity
pris·sy (pr¹s“¶) adj. pris·si·er, pris·si·est. Excessively or affectedly prim and proper. [Perhaps blend of pri(m)1 and (si)ssy.] --pris“si·ly adv. --pris“si·ness n.
D. Lane @ 119:
Being prissy is not the same thing is being gay. I don't know why YOU think so. And why are you assuming Christie is gay? Why are you so concerned? What's the difference? He'd still be a coward and a pansy, gay or straight, so get over it.
Thanks for your concern.
D. Lane @ 119:
His closeted Republican homosexuality. There is a difference. Supporting and enabling the right wing oppression of gays and lesbians.
Ron Christie...Bushes Monica!
Sat with him in the White House all right.
Pissed Canuck @ 124:
LMAO
If all the wingers have to lend to the debate are the likes of Ron (swallowed it whole) Christie, they have achieved the nadar in political discussion. John Soltz cleaned his clock. I've noticed that Tweety is trying to get a tighter show going, but he reverts to type when the Christies and Melanie Morgans cause mass gags.
When Bush made his first act as President a doubling of his own salary, that said it all.
I've never heard of Ron Christie but what an odd presence he has for any kind of pr. Is he out or is he one of those closeted republicans? I never can understand why a gay African-American is a republican. But I think that these moonbat crazy apologists work really well for our cause. Everyone except the die hard (clogged artery crowd) fox watchers know that if their lips are moving, they are lying, disrespecting the public and are such pathetic third tier losers.
Fully trained House Negro.
I must tell the Field Negro about this Christie jerk and get him nominated for the Lawn Jockey Alert! http://www.field-negro.blogspot.com
Just an observation from a gay man - if Ron Christie isn't playing on my team, I'm making an appointment with my doctor to have the ol' "gaydar" checked out. I think we need to have Mike Rogers over at BlogActive check this one out - the Republican Party seems to be awash with closet cases.
Christie and a collection of blond bimbos are the only ones repubs have to send out there to explain the old white guy party. If even one of them ever goes one degree off the party script it will be the first time. Since they try to spin every Repub wrong doing they've become pathetically predictable.
Joe O. @ 40:
Well, don't forget JeffyLube Gannon. I bet Mr. Prissy Pants spent some time with that hunk of "military" love.
"im not going to be hanging around the lobby of the UN.." who's that in reference to? Clinton? Jimmy Carter? Anybody know?
Spud @ 133:
billy j. clinton...
or, err, i mean CLINTOOOOOOOON!!!!!!
Ron sounds like the biggest Bush nut-hugger.
Spud @ 133:
People who practice diplomacy?
GWHB makes $350,000 to over a million per pop on his speeches at various places throughout the world and that doesn't cover his expenses. He makes about 60 of them a year.
What is not enough $ to this family? They are set for generations and generations.
Clinton never had any money until he left the WH--but the Bush family, they give new meaning to the word greed.
Get that cross-eyed fool off the teevee.
I understand that Sen. Craig is eager to appear on Hardball.
I hope Ron Christie isn't gay. I like gay people, and having Christie among their ranks would only lower my estimation of them... ;)
Paul @ 115:
Or maybe he's just an asshole.
(Just kidding. Thank you for your in-depth analysis. You're quite right to use the term "sociopathic" for these people. It's pretty terrifying what these people are capable of.)
I wish someone would cash this asshole out
Spud @ 133:
I think he's referring to the fact that they don't allow panhandling around the UN building.
When will these people learn not to speak at the same time as their counterparts? Geez it's so annoying and idiotic (and clhildish).
And does Jon Soltz seriously thinks that the soldiers are 'trying to win a war' over in Iraq? It's an occupation, buddy, in case you haven't figured it out yet. Occupiers never win. The best they can do is leave. Debaters that don't get the fundamentals never win debates either. Can't votevets.org replace him with someone who does get it?
Samson- @ 134:
what is was about:
hardball showed a video clip of bush skulking through (see, defiling) the halls if the UN. and, as matthews spit it, clinton just happened to be in the UN lobby chillin'. so, bush and clinton man-hugged and all that jazz...
that was the reason that christie said what he did, a little jab at clinton, if you will.
Cha ching.
My gaydar is telling me Christie is gay. I wonder how long he has played the roll of Bush's human toilet paper, licking his ass clean at every turn.
Ok, I see others think he's gay. So am I. No problem with that (but a disappointment to gays everywhere-- collaborating wit the enemy). It's just, AGAIN, the hypocrisy of the GOP that astounds me, and the Kool-aid drinkers that can't see it with their own eyes. It's so readily apparent to me.
Someone put a fork in Christie, he's done.
I couldn't get through that, it was so sickening to listen to the self denying gay guy.
Does Ron Christie have strabismus? What gives with the Kewpie Doll stare?
Honestly, I think these guys are at a point now where they are saying these outrageous things just to joke amongst themselves behind closed doors, "Can you believe I got away with that one?!?! The American people are incapable of getting upset and organizing a meaningful movement in the numbers needed to make a difference. We have truly achieved our objective of creating a climate for a new world order!"
Now that I've put my two cents in about Christie, I think it is reprehesnible for a current president, also "acting" as commander-in-chief, to talk to anyone, period, about cashing in, while troops are serving and the country is at "war".
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