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Oh, Falafel Boy is TOO predictable. When confronted with his racist comments regarding eating out in Harlem with Al Sharpton, does he take a step back and do a personal inventory and consider the possibility that some deep-seated racism may lie within him and make an honest attempt to apologize for any offense taken (however unintentionally it may have been caused)? *snort* Nahhhh...Billo lashes out against the people who point out that he is racist. Now CNN has joined Media Matters (and "NBC News", hmmm...wonder who he meant there) over on "the Dark Side." And why? Because they're jealous of Billo's success.

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not anonymous's picture

what a loser

Weaseldog's picture

Yeah they are jealous that they aren't an ignorant racist pighead.

Weaseldog's picture

I'm still not watching Bill'O Video.

John's picture

He keeps talking about "defamation". Hey Bill-- Defamation is actionable. Why not sue CNN for defamation? Put your money where your mouth is. If you don't put up, then shut up.

Joementum's picture

If he would just shut up about it, this would probably blow over. But no, he insists on digging his way out of the hole.

Keep digging Bill!

Professor Farnsworth's picture

oh, hell. This guy is just...bizarre.

Mike the Canuck's picture

hahahahaahahahaahahhahahhaahahhahahaahahhahhahahaaha

bob's picture

Hmm, "have to work on the dark side, if you will...." Where have I heard that used before....?

So is Media Matters, et al part of the secret wing of the US Gov?

Louise's picture

He's like that horrid loudmouth uncle that ruins every family get-together. Imagine having to sit through Thanksgiving dinner with this obnoxious no-nothing lecturer.

Louise's picture

Emm.. that's "know-nothing".

Blue Buddha's picture

...and I'm sure Soros had something to do with it as well.

Wow... a lot of people here of C&L called it yesterday that he'd bash CNN over this. So predictable... I could set my watch by this guy.

MargeAggedon's picture

Success?!? Didn't they put him on after sesame street in an attempt to find an age demographic that could understand him? :D

I never watch this ridiculous cretin and no one I know watches him. In fact when I mention him to people in reference to the articles I read here most of them don't even know who he is. I've shown clips of him to people who assume he's some kind of failed comedian from a forgotten sketch news show.
Irrelevant doesn't even begin to describe this guy. He's lost so far back in the dust there are fossils covering him.

I look forward to the day that he "Decides to leave to spend more time with his family" Translation: "Show Canceled"

Doug's picture

Billo just love to blame the mirror for making him look ugly.

Professor Farnsworth's picture

Louise @ 9:

He's like that horrid loudmouth uncle that ruins every family get-together. Imagine having to sit through Thanksgiving dinner with this obnoxious no-nothing lecturer.

glad i dont have a family member like that in my family.

Doug's picture

This man masturbates to a picture of himself.

tHeGaMeOfLiFe's picture

Let me understand what he is saying, because of low ratings on other stations, he's not a racist? What a big cry-baby dicwad.

How come repugs keep labeling the truth as far left?

tlukka's picture

The last part of the video is Bill bragging about his ratings. It's sad that people equate higher ratings as being better news source. The truth is, most of the idiots watching fox are simply entertained by all the flashing lights, moving text and pretty colors.

Annachie's picture

So ratings are not an excuse for lying-then what is HIS excuse?

ronhohn's picture

Stephen A Smith (ESPN Radio Host an A-A) defends Billo saying that Billo meant that people in general are surprised that people at Sylvia's acted civil. But that does not explain why Billo said: "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference ....".

If Smith thinks his interpretation is correct, then why is Billo talking for a large part of the community. He certainly wasn't talking for me .... EVER!

Otay's picture

So CNN is now on "the dark side"?

So they have joined the extreme-far-left nefarious plot of George Soros, Media Matters and the United Nations to take over America? By eliminating America's super-hero and only savior, Billo? By dropping pills into his Irish Coffee to make him say those loony things about black people, no doubt...

We must come to Billo's defense against this conspiracy to take him down!

ysbaddaden's picture

Bill O’Reilly: CNN has joined Media Matters “on the Dark Side”

What better place to be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ7O5LHRYrw

Doesn't sound the same without the headphones, and neon green shag carpeting.

FastMovingCloud's picture

MargeAggedon @ 12:

Success?!? Didn't they put him on after sesame street in an attempt to find an age demographic that could understand him? :D

I never watch this ridiculous cretin and no one I know watches him. In fact when I mention him to people in reference to the articles I read here most of them don't even know who he is. I've shown clips of him to people who assume he's some kind of failed comedian from a forgotten sketch news show.
Irrelevant doesn't even begin to describe this guy. He's lost so far back in the dust there are fossils covering him.

I look forward to the day that he "Decides to leave to spend more time with his family" Translation: "Show Canceled"

Actually, his demographic is more likely to be watching Lawrence Welk reruns. His viewership is down because they are dying off.

Patthemokey's picture

Bill who?

Joementum's picture

I think it's safe to say there'll be some awkward moments at the next BillO/Sharpton brunch.

Maybe O'LIELY can have on a spanish interpreter and discuss this on his show..

Bush avisó a Aznar de que estaría en Bagdad en marzo con o sin resolución de la ONU

Spanish Daily: Transcript of Private 2003 Bush Talk Promising Iraq Invasion
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/Aznar/Bush/Estamos/cambiand...

In English: Secret Transcript: Bush Promised War to Spain's PM
El Pais has posted what it says is a transcript of a conversation between President Bush and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar on February 22, 2003. In the discussion, Bush promises that --> "We'll be in Baghdad by the end of March."
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_con...

Captain Kangaroo's picture

U n b e l I e v a b l e far left propaganda!
This is too funny. :lol:

Captain Kangaroo's picture

“O v e r to the dark side….”
More as I listen

ysbaddaden's picture

CNN has joined Media Matters “on the Dark Side”

They're working for Darth Chaney?

He's creepier

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M32wTjksZs

Captain Kangaroo's picture

"NBC news parrots Media Matters all the time...."
NBC and Media Matters tells the truth about you and you do not like it no matter how you phrase it, Billy.

Shadowgm's picture

John @ 4:

He keeps talking about "defamation". Hey Bill-- Defamation is actionable. Why not sue CNN for defamation? Put your money where your mouth is. If you don't put up, then shut up.

Because it's slightly different for a public figure who likes to play in traffic as opposed to you or I.

And, of course, there's the small matter of having to prove that his reputation or his business has suffered in a significant manner because of the defamation, which would have to be untrue.

If it's something he actually said on the air, no dice. If he's still pulling in ratings, no dice.

GSD's picture

Bill O'Racist.

-GSD

Tom (not Tom)'s picture

Orally plays the victim card again - what a surprise.

Captain Kangaroo's picture

“We respect CNN. We didn’t attack them in any way …...” this time.

Dr. Acula's picture

Douchebag extraordinaire!

Dr. Acula's picture

Tom (not Tom) @ 32:

Orally plays the victim card again - what a surprise.

Just like all reichwingers do!

GSD's picture

Bill O'Racist is playing the "I'm Not A Racist" card.

-GSD

Captain Kangaroo's picture

It seems EVERYBODY is irresponsible here BillO! Except you of course. :lol:

pissed off patricia's picture

Typical rightwing bullshitter. When you get caught with your pants down, blame the resulting problem on the guy who caught you.

ldzppln's picture

Matt Lauer (Today Show) hosted a segment on this subject this morning. He was defending Bill-O the best he could. Media Matters guy was on, and some NBC expert / Republican strategist (black dude, of course). NBC had the black republican guy saying Media Matters was smearing Bill-O, and Matt was taking his side and ganing up on MM.

Bill O'Really's picture

See what happens when you try to complement the Negroes? Well, no good deed goes unpunished, I guess. I try to give them some of the "respect" they are always demanding, and look what I get? And leave it to the Liberal Media to join in the "gang banging" and "put a cap in my ass."

mudkitty's picture

Oh Really exemplifies the paranoid mind set.

Bill O'Really's picture

Hey, baby. Put that crack pipe down and get my pipe up.

lori's picture

Nasty, cretinous, moronic.

Blue Buddha's picture

MargeAggedon @ 12:

Success?!? Didn't they put him on after sesame street in an attempt to find an age demographic that could understand him? :D

Actually, Teletubbies is a better demographic... it's babbling for those under the age of 3.

secularhumanizinevoluter's picture

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

Mike Dare's picture

So, other media outlets criticize him because they're "jealous of his success"? Sounds like the same rationale that claims that terrorists will attack us because they "hate freedom". Idiocy, and a complete lack of self-awareness.

GonzoD's picture

Bill nobody needs to attack you, all they have to do is broadcast what you say. If you can't keep your own feet out of your mouth, then shut the fuck up!

Moses's picture

You know, when I heard that I could just see all the old quietly spoken racial stereotypes and prejudices coming out in his 'why, they're almost human like us white folk' comment. All we needed was a "they're so cute when they're young" comment, like the red-neck deputy in Mississippi Burning, and Billo would have won first prize.

Cantor de Mambo's picture

Interesting.

TheRevolutionWillNotBeTelevised's picture

I actually got sick the last time I watched a clip of this guy on here. For the past few months, I havent watched a single clip.

Does anyone remember that episode of "The Simpsons" (I know....FOX) where the way to stop the giant advertising monsters ruining the city was to simply turn your back on them?

Can we please try that with this guy?

E in MD's picture

Come to the dark side.

We have cookies.

ysbaddaden's picture

What better than CNN and Move On meeting in the Dark Side,

A French chick's armpit?

Legalize's picture

Orally's ride.

bill w's picture

John @ 4:

He keeps talking about "defamation". Hey Bill-- Defamation is actionable. Why not sue CNN for defamation? Put your money where your mouth is. If you don't put up, then shut up.

To quote billo "JUST SHUT UP". (as he so often tells his guests)

Maybe O'LIELY can help analize this on "his show"...

Studio will produce movie about U.S-funded Cuban terrorist, who Chavez calls "Osama Bin Laden of Latin America." Hugo Chavez to fund Venezuelan movie studio.

--> Chavez has long demanded that the United States extradite Posada to stand trial in the 1976 Cuban jetliner bombing, which killed 73 people.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gGZmkKQz7R5DJAmwoobgYoQDePmQ

Who knows... Maybe O'LIELY can also analize and finally report and put an end to the controversy of why Bush did not go after Bin Laden and finally put to rest the story that the CIA did not create Osama bin Laden.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article1245.htm
http://www.greenleft.org.au/2001/465/25199

ysbaddaden's picture

TheRevolutionWillNotBeTelevised @ 48:

I actually got sick the last time I watched a clip of this guy on here. For the past few months, I havent watched a single clip.

Does anyone remember that episode of "The Simpsons" (I know....FOX) where the way to stop the giant advertising monsters ruining the city was to simply turn your back on them?

Can we please try that with this guy?

And the advertising company had the name, McMahon and Tate, Darren Steven's old company in Bewitched.

Kelly Logan's picture

I reviewed the clip on Media Matters and I think that making a big deal of the restaurant comment is a misstep. For once, Bill could be right. His 'shock' seems to be taken out of context with the rest of his commentary, which was geared to the idea that everybody is the same.

What was subtler, but far more important were the points that he was attempting to make, which were:
- Racism exists, but is defined as O'Reilly as personal comments that get made to black people from time to time.
- Black leaders like Jackson, Sharpton..., etc., are trying to lead black people into creating a racist nation.
- Everybody is the same, blacks are like italians, and everyone has the same opportunities and lives.

O'Reilly is an excellent bellweather - when he does something that seems accomodating, you know that the elites are scared. This is an excellent example. By admitting that racism exists and then very narrowly defining it as a personal matter, O'Reilly has retreated and dug in, creating a bulwark against the rising awareness of institutional racism that causes day to day tragedies like the more public Jena 6 situation.

ysbaddaden's picture

Bill O'Really's a nappy-headed ho.

Josh's picture

WHY is Sharpton taking this in stride?

So upset over Imus' comment on the "nappy headed hos", but hearing O'reilly's summation that equals "I was surprised blacks aren't savages, and can use forks" Sharpton lies down and rolls over.

Wtf?

jr's picture

Eugenicist Bill thinks anyone that knows how to use tivo is "on the dark side"

Joementum's picture

Josh @ 57:

WHY is Sharpton taking this in stride?

So upset over Imus' comment on the "nappy headed hos", but hearing O'reilly's summation that equals "I was surprised blacks aren't savages, and can use forks" Sharpton lies down and rolls over.

Wtf?

O'Reilly picked up the tab?

I agree with Kelly Logan @ 54. I think the "M-fer/iced tea" remark is being used against him unfairly. I don't think O'Reilly himself expected the patrons of Sylvia's to be acting like racist caricatures; I think he knew his audience would expect that, and he was telling them they're wrong.

The bigger problem is the fact that, in 2007, it is actually necessary to explain to a fairly large group of white people that racist caricatures do not accurately represent black people.

MargeAggedon's picture

Josh @ 57:

WHY is Sharpton taking this in stride?

Because there isn't any way for him to benefit from it yet.

Shadowgm's picture

If it's not racist, why would Bill-O assume that it's common practice for 'black people' to yell, "Yo, Mo-Fo! I want some more iced tea!"?

The Smiths Go To Washington @ 25:

Maybe O'LILEY can have Condaleeza Rice on "his show" ..
and swear her in and find out why Rice is: Interfering With Iraq Investigations
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/09/26/congress-to-rice-stop-in_n_6590...

Maybe O'LIELY can have on a spanish interpreter and discuss this on his show..

Bush avisó a Aznar de que estaría en Bagdad en marzo con o sin resolución de la ONU

Spanish Daily: Transcript of Private 2003 Bush Talk Promising Iraq Invasion
http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/Aznar/Bush/Estamos/cambiand...

In English: Secret Transcript: Bush Promised War to Spain's PM
El Pais has posted what it says is a transcript of a conversation between President Bush and Spanish Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar on February 22, 2003. In the discussion, Bush promises that --> "We'll be in Baghdad by the end of March."
http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003646639

Bill O'Rielly's comments betrays not only his fundamental flaw but also the flaw of many right wing pundits. Bill has no idea what black people are like because he has never allowed himself to be exposed to them. He has no idea what war is like because he has never been in one. No idea what not having health insurance is like, no idea what poverty is like.

In his opinion, that makes him an expert.

LibertyLover's picture

I am surprised and shocked that C and L would not take Mr. Bill, who has demonstrated time and again that he is clearly a sensitive and introspective person, at his word that his words were not racist in the least.

Someone needs to send Billo a "Racism for Dummies" or "Racism for the Clueless" book.

Tom Sawyer's picture

The "dark side"? How telling and amusing that he uses that phrase to respond to his critics.

Billo's the the MAN - for the mouth breathers.

Water Closet's picture

You Know how to really hurt Bill. Just do not watch his show.

Shadowgm's picture

Rusty Shackleford @ 60:

I agree with Kelly Logan @ 54. I think the "M-fer/iced tea" remark is being used against him unfairly. I don't think O'Reilly himself expected the patrons of Sylvia's to be acting like racist caricatures; I think he knew his audience would expect that, and he was telling them they're wrong.

Isn't this like Glenn Beck defending his asking Rep. Keith Ellison about his loyalty by saying, 'some people want to know'?

Joementum's picture

I think BillO was secretly disappointed that he didn't get to call the maitre d' an M-Fer.

And to think he watched all those Shaft movies for nothing.

AntiFed1791's picture

Stop giving that fool the attention he craves. Nobody watches him anymore, except bloggers like yourself and a few insane reich wingers.

Joementum's picture

xoites defends Constitution @ 64:

Bill O'Rielly's comments betrays not only his fundamental flaw but also the flaw of many right wing pundits. Bill has no idea what black people are like because he has never allowed himself to be exposed to them. He has no idea what war is like because he has never been in one. No idea what not having health insurance is like, no idea what poverty is like.

In his opinion, that makes him an expert.

well put, xdc.

Jeebus's picture

I don't think I can watch another Bill'O clip without my head exploding.

Toliver's picture

I challenge C&R to post BillO's comments in context [in trancript or audio].

I will not hold my breath, so here it is:

http://www.billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364

Go to the 11 minute mark [it downloads fast] and you'll understand what he was talking about. This little manufactured scandal is pure BS.

Toliver @ 73:

I challenge C&R to post BillO's comments in context [in trancript or audio].

I will not hold my breath, so here it is:

http://www.billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364

Go to the 11 minute mark [it downloads fast] and you'll understand what he was talking about. This little manufactured scandal is pure BS.

So let me get this straight: we are to listen to what he said in the eleventh minute and nothing else? Yeah, that will put it into context!

Joementum's picture

Tom Sawyer @ 66:

The "dark side"? How telling and amusing that he uses that phrase to respond to his critics.

Indeed. Until this week, the "dark side" for BillO was anything north of Central Park.

right on!'s picture

Hey Bill... blah, blah, blah... STFU!

Toliver @ 73:

I challenge C&R to post BillO's comments in context [in trancript or audio].

I will not hold my breath, so here it is:

http://www.billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364

Go to the 11 minute mark [it downloads fast] and you'll understand what he was talking about. This little manufactured scandal is pure BS.

What you don't seem to grasp is that his shock that black people behave in ways he never experienced before tells us that at his age he has not yet experienced their company. How insulated can one be?

one more clue's picture

At 1:14 into the clip he says not one of his radio listeners complained. Was that because there were no listeners?

At 3:06 into the clip he says he had 6 times the viewers at 8 pm. What was the number at 8:05?

asoudiere@hotmail.com's picture

Can't we PLEASE ignore O'Falafel? Sexual harassers make me want to puke.

Dietrich's picture

It's only a matter of time until he's found naked on the side of a road, covered in blood, carrying the skins of two puppies and coming down from a PCP load.

PurplePatriot's picture

Dietrich @ 80:

It's only a matter of time until he's found naked on the side of a road, covered in blood, carrying the skins of two puppies and coming down from a PCP load.

I don't even think the PCP is necessary. He's beginning to exhibit, more and more, all of the signs of psychosis (narcisism, paranoia, etc.). He's moving rapidly from latent to manifest.

StirFry's picture

"dark side" what the .... what do you mean by that BillO?!
Well, if CNN is on the dark side, then Fox is on the brown side. The shit brown side.

Carmikl's picture

It's probably better to be on the dark side than the not too bright side.

Even if one has never attended a black owned restaurant, why would you expect it to be any different than any other restaurant unless you had a negative preconceived notion of black behavior in general? He is the one who said he was surprised, not that someone else told him they were surprised. He loses this argument no matter how he tries to spin it.

joe cantwell's picture

it's fun when billy goes into panic mode :)

Willie Krash's picture

Doug @ 15:

This man masturbates to a picture of himself.

Well he's having sex with someone he loves!

uncle wally's picture

why is it these right wing wingnuts never admit to making a mistake?

Radian's picture

I haven't read every post, but has anyone considered that this may just be some pathetic PR stunt on his part to get his name out and drum up his ratings?

Vysotsky's picture

Toliver @ 73:

I challenge C&R to post BillO's comments in context [in trancript or audio].

I will not hold my breath, so here it is:

http://www.billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364

Go to the 11 minute mark [it downloads fast] and you'll understand what he was talking about. This little manufactured scandal is pure BS.

I am SO glad you mentioned the full hour of his show. I just gave it a listen. Imagine my surprise to hear (in minute 32) a caller taking issue with O'Reilly's position:

O'Reilly: "John from Indianapolis, what say you, John?"
Caller: "I think your spinning and bloviating does not do the black community justice. You're just giving fodder to your viewers who have a negative view of black people anyway. So your twist play on a couple of Twistas and Ludacrises and the large general population is shameful. I think you're ruining people's opportunity to make income and I wish black America would wake up and start boycotting these companies that you convince to boycott artists. Who are you going to go after next?"
O'Reilly: "I'm going to go after anybody who rewards bad behavior. And just because you condone bad behavior is not going to stop me."

And yet in the clip posted by C&L here, O'Reilly claims, "We didn't hear one complaint about the show." Really?

Apparently he made that claim without listening to his own show. But I can't blame him for that, really, since I could barely make it through just one hour.

gdkzen's picture

yet another weapon of mass distraction. Blackwater and Petreaus cause problems for the GOP, so they march out idiot-boy O'Reilly to say something to grab our attention. O'Reilly is the political/pr equivalent of the guy distracting a salesperson while his buddies rob the store.

Billzebub's picture

"on the Dark Side"

You think after CNN portrays him as making racist comments towards blacks that he would not use the term "Over to the Dark Side" as a way of portraying CNN. Does this mean they have joined his stereotypical view of dark people?

Inappropriate use, especially in this instance. I am surprised no one else has noticed this.

Vysotsky's picture

StirFry @ 82:

"dark side" what the .... what do you mean by that BillO?!
Well, if CNN is on the dark side, then Fox is on the brown side. The shit brown side.

You know, I was having dinner at a restaurant on the dark side the other day and I couldn't get over how courteous and respectful everybody was...

mrogi's picture

Billo Reilly is right about one thing. He is the king of cable news. CNN and MSNBC will get a ratings bump this week only because people who normally don't watch those two networks will tune in for coverage of the O'Reilly controversy.

Vernon Blank's picture

My favorite part of this was when he talked about Christiane Amanpour's report. "We could have gone after them, but we didn't."
Akin to saying, "Well, I would tell you to f#@k off, but I'm not going to."
This guy can't think his way out of a wet paper bag, and for that matter, for a "news commentator" he seems to talk about his ratings an awful lot. That's not news. That's self-aggrandization.

ysbaddaden's picture

Okay, everybody together now, let's show O'Really the dark side of our moons!

PurplePatriot's picture

Toliver @ 73:

I challenge C&R to post BillO's comments in context [in trancript or audio].

I will not hold my breath, so here it is:

http://www.billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364

Go to the 11 minute mark [it downloads fast] and you'll understand what he was talking about. This little manufactured scandal is pure BS.

I'll be near the front of the line when it comes to calling out anyone who manufactures outrage out of context. But could you provide a short summary in text of the proper context? I'm willing to listen to your point. But I will never be willing to listen to Bill'O. thanks

BaScOmBe's picture

*stretch*
*yawn!*

PurplePatriot's picture

mrogi @ 93:

Billo Reilly is right about one thing. He is the king of cable news. CNN and MSNBC will get a ratings bump this week only because people who normally don't watch those two networks will tune in for coverage of the O'Reilly controversy.

I beg to differ. He may be the king of ratings in his genre. But to call it news is an insult to a profession that is on it's death bed.

shoreke's picture

"I went to that restaurant in Harlem and them darkies are starting to figure things out. They were cooking food, eating with utensils, walking upright, using their opposable thumbs and everything. They behaved just like humans" _billo reilly

Shadowgm @ 68:

Rusty Shackleford @ 60:

I agree with Kelly Logan @ 54. I think the "M-fer/iced tea" remark is being used against him unfairly. I don't think O'Reilly himself expected the patrons of Sylvia's to be acting like racist caricatures; I think he knew his audience would expect that, and he was telling them they're wrong.

Isn't this like Glenn Beck defending his asking Rep. Keith Ellison about his loyalty by saying, 'some people want to know'?

I think it's slightly different. In my opinion Beck intended to reinforce the Muslim caricature and apply it to a U.S. Congressman, whereas O'Reilly, albeit in typical ham-handed fashion, was trying to correct his listeners' misconceptions about black people.

What O'Reilly did was still pernicious, though, because he did reinforce the racial caricature by suggesting that it still applies to MANY blacks, just not "the good ones." This is the notorious left-handed compliment of the "he's a credit to his race" type. Which might actually be worse than if he really had said he expected the patrons of Sylvia's to be saying "m-f'er, where's my iced tea."

In my opinion this is why O'Reilly is more destructive than the more blatant "pundits" like Beck. O'Reilly can trick you into thinking he's being reasonable, while reinforcing his listeners' most atavistic instincts.

Toliver's picture

So let me get this straight: we are to listen to what he said in the eleventh minute and nothing else? Yeah, that will put it into context!

That's where the interview w/Juan Williams starts. Give it a shot.

What you don’t seem to grasp is that his shock that black people behave in ways he never experienced before tells us that at his age he has not yet experienced their company. How insulated can one be?

He was talking about the whites that don't have much [if any] interaction with blacks that get their impressions of the black community from rap vids/songs. There are many millions of whites that don't live/work in diverse communities that fall into this category. Bill O's maligned comment was a tongue-in-cheek reaction to that atitude. When listened to IN CONTEXT, it's quite clear that the interview with Williams was of an anti-bigotry nature, but to expect smear merchants to behave honestly is something that won't happen anytime soon I'm afraid.

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Hey Vysotsky, where'd you get the transcript?

mrogi's picture

O'Reilly still has not explained why he was personally surprised and "couldn't get over it" that Black patrons of a Black owned restaurant were conducting themselves in a civil manner. Why was Billo Reilly so shocked?

liberalista's picture

The Today Show did an incredibly biased segment on this story. Matt Lauer was a total apologist for Billo. I wonder if Hillary Clinton had made the same remarks if Matt Lauer would have been as sympathetic to her as he was to Billo. Ironically, in a later segment, Lauer bemoaned the fact that younger people are getting their news from the internet more and more rather than from the MSM. Lauer needs to figure out that he and others like him (both right wing and left wing apologists) are the very reason people are not getting their news from the MSM anymore.

Roy's picture

Billo boy is just following GOP guidlines for 2008 election strategy.

CNN should ask Andrea Mackris about this.

Chervilant's picture

Doug @ 13:

Billo just love to blame the mirror for making him look ugly.

AND

Rusty Shackleford @ 100:

Shadowgm @ 68:

Rusty Shackleford @ 60:

I agree with Kelly Logan @ 54. I think the "M-fer/iced tea" remark is being used against him unfairly. I don't think O'Reilly himself expected the patrons of Sylvia's to be acting like racist caricatures; I think he knew his audience would expect that, and he was telling them they're wrong.

Isn't this like Glenn Beck defending his asking Rep. Keith Ellison about his loyalty by saying, 'some people want to know'?

I think it's slightly different. In my opinion Beck intended to reinforce the Muslim caricature and apply it to a U.S. Congressman, whereas O'Reilly, albeit in typical ham-handed fashion, was trying to correct his listeners' misconceptions about black people.

What O'Reilly did was still pernicious, though, because he did reinforce the racial caricature by suggesting that it still applies to MANY blacks, just not "the good ones." This is the notorious left-handed compliment of the "he's a credit to his race" type. Which might actually be worse than if he really had said he expected the patrons of Sylvia's to be saying "m-f'er, where's my iced tea."

In my opinion this is why O'Reilly is more destructive than the more blatant "pundits" like Beck. O'Reilly can trick you into thinking he's being reasonable, while reinforcing his listeners' most atavistic instincts.

If nothing else, Billo proves yet again a pernicious need to externalize responsibility (has ANYONE heard him offer a sincere apology?) and his ongoing role as the propagandists' key deflection device. In other words, the Jena 6 issue is getting too much attention, so Billo must deflect. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!

Toliver's picture

O’Reilly still has not explained why he was personally surprised and “couldn’t get over it” that Black patrons of a Black owned restaurant were conducting themselves in a civil manner. Why was Billo Reilly so shocked?

BO wasn't shocked; it's the millions of whites w/little interaction with African-Americans that might be shocked. That's the F'n point. Listen to the link I posted for Christ's sake.

This whole thing is so dishonest.

Dale's picture

Did anyone see the "Today" show this morning? They had someone from Media Matters on discussing the Bill O'Reilly comments. The MediaMatters guy said "All we're doing is taking what O'Reilly said and putting it back in his face."
Then Matt Lauer says -- I'm not joking -- "I know Bill O'Reilly and I'm sure if he had the opportunity to change what he said, he would."

Lauer should have been FIRED right then! Who gives a shit what Matt Lauer thinks? His job as a "journalist" is not to say what he thinks Bill O'Reilly would say! Lauer clearly crossed the line and stepped in for Bill O'Reilly. Shameful shithead.

ots's picture

Why did he say "dark side"?

skinnergy's picture

What a moran!

Dale's picture

liberalista @ 103:

The Today Show did an incredibly biased segment on this story. Matt Lauer was a total apologist for Billo. I wonder if Hillary Clinton had made the same remarks if Matt Lauer would have been as sympathetic to her as he was to Billo. Ironically, in a later segment, Lauer bemoaned the fact that younger people are getting their news from the internet more and more rather than from the MSM. Lauer needs to figure out that he and others like him (both right wing and left wing apologists) are the very reason people are not getting their news from the MSM anymore.

Yes, I see someone else did see the "Today" show and your comment was spot on.

Doggiebobo's picture

Curious? Is it a proven fact that O'Liely gets more than three times the viewing auidence
than are viewing CNN and NBC at his time slot? Watching NONE of the above, since I rely
upon the Internet for my news, I wonder if a poll or survey is in evidence supporting O'Liely's
allegations?

Joementum's picture

Toliver @ 106:

O’Reilly still has not explained why he was personally surprised and “couldn’t get over it” that Black patrons of a Black owned restaurant were conducting themselves in a civil manner. Why was Billo Reilly so shocked?

BO wasn't shocked; it's the millions of whites w/little interaction with African-Americans that might be shocked. That's the F'n point. Listen to the link I posted for Christ's sake.

This whole thing is so dishonest.

Live by the smear; die by the smear.

Sorry, no pity for BillO.

Doggiebobo's picture

Doggiebobo @ 111:

Curious? Is it a proven fact that O'Liely gets more than three times the viewing auidence
than are viewing CNN and NBC at his time slot? Watching NONE of the above, since I rely
upon the Internet for my news, I wonder if a poll or survey is in evidence supporting O'Liely's
allegations?

Never mind...I have learned that the figures given my O'Liely are from a Faux Noise poll.
They call "their" known viewers and ask them if they are watching Faux or CNN or NBC.
Now that is what I'd refer to as a "fair and balanced" poll...NOT

Roy's picture

Dale @ 110:

liberalista @ 103:

The Today Show did an incredibly biased segment on this story. Matt Lauer was a total apologist for Billo. I wonder if Hillary Clinton had made the same remarks if Matt Lauer would have been as sympathetic to her as he was to Billo. Ironically, in a later segment, Lauer bemoaned the fact that younger people are getting their news from the internet more and more rather than from the MSM. Lauer needs to figure out that he and others like him (both right wing and left wing apologists) are the very reason people are not getting their news from the MSM anymore.

Yes, I see someone else did see the "Today" show and your comment was spot on.

Matt may be looking for job at FOX?

Dale's picture

Roy @ 114:

Dale @ 110:

liberalista @ 103:

The Today Show did an incredibly biased segment on this story. Matt Lauer was a total apologist for Billo. I wonder if Hillary Clinton had made the same remarks if Matt Lauer would have been as sympathetic to her as he was to Billo. Ironically, in a later segment, Lauer bemoaned the fact that younger people are getting their news from the internet more and more rather than from the MSM. Lauer needs to figure out that he and others like him (both right wing and left wing apologists) are the very reason people are not getting their news from the MSM anymore.

Yes, I see someone else did see the "Today" show and your comment was spot on.

Matt may be looking for job at FOX?

It appears Matt is GIVING someone a job at Fox.

demit's picture

Bill O'Reilly is loving every scrap of attention he's getting from this. He is the ubertroll that you really should not be feeding. If indeed he was actually trying to educate his racially-prejudiced listeners, his tone and choice of images would have been different, and it wouldn't have been misunderstood. But he chose to 'get down' with his imagined audience, imagining that he is their beloved performer, except he exposed his own thinking in the process.

I happen to believe O'Reilly is smarter & more sophisticated in real life, but when he can't resist acting like a minstrel—and blaming his own audience when forced to explain the performance—he shows what a charlatan he is. He is scum.

StirFry's picture

Once you go "dark side," you never go back.

BRB_TheFireball's picture

Hey, Billo, don't you have some obscene phone calls that you have to make rather than bloviate about what CNN is doing?

Rusty Shackleford's picture

demit @ 116:

Bill O'Reilly is loving every scrap of attention he's getting from this. He is the ubertroll that you really should not be feeding. If indeed he was actually trying to educate his racially-prejudiced listeners, his tone and choice of images would have been different, and it wouldn't have been misunderstood. But he chose to 'get down' with his imagined audience, imagining that he is their beloved performer, except he exposed his own thinking in the process.

I happen to believe O'Reilly is smarter & more sophisticated in real life, but when he can't resist acting like a minstrel—and blaming his own audience when forced to explain the performance—he shows what a charlatan he is. He is scum.

These are better points than the ones I was trying to make.

Ovid's picture

I see people making excuses for BO's restaurant comment. Yaaawn. I don't believe the excuses.
But leaving that aside, there's still his totally asshole assertion that African Americans haven't been thinking for themselves until recently. That's just as offensive, IMO, and I can't see how it can be defended the way people have defended the restaurant remark.
But hey, BO's defenders will defend him no matter what. No use even trying to get them to admit he's been a racist asshole.
And BTW, I dearly hope not many Americans truly think Media Matters and MoveOn are "far left". If they're far left, then what are Communists and anarchists?

Dr. Matt's picture

When all else fails, attack the messenger. Reich-wingers are so predictable.

Zenrage's picture

Someone needs to inform Bill that we're no more jealous of him than a cattle farmer is jealous of mad cow disease

Dr. Matt's picture

Toliver @ 73:

I challenge C&R to post BillO's comments in context [in trancript or audio].

I will not hold my breath, so here it is:

http://www.billoreilly.com/blog?action=viewBlog&blogID=-514007249730622364

Go to the 11 minute mark [it downloads fast] and you'll understand what he was talking about. This little manufactured scandal is pure BS.

Yeah, it's always " manufactured " when a reich-winger is exposed as a filthy disgusting racist pig. But, when Hillary speaks to a black audience with a southern drawl statement, the reich-wingers IMPLODE with fake outrage.

Chris from Canda's picture

Sweet Jesus I hate Bill O'Reilly.

ysbaddaden's picture

demit @ 116:

Bill O'Reilly is loving every scrap of attention he's getting from this. He is the ubertroll that you really should not be feeding. If indeed he was actually trying to educate his racially-prejudiced listeners, his tone and choice of images would have been different, and it wouldn't have been misunderstood. But he chose to 'get down' with his imagined audience, imagining that he is their beloved performer, except he exposed his own thinking in the process.

I happen to believe O'Reilly is smarter & more sophisticated in real life, but when he can't resist acting like a minstrel—and blaming his own audience when forced to explain the performance—he shows what a charlatan he is. He is scum.

BOR is putting on a minstrel show?

Eric in Ottawa's picture

A psychoanalysis of Mr. O'Reilly would prove most interesting.

Dominic P. Lucarelli's picture

Billo and all the rest on FauxNews and the people who watch and support them are still living in that strange alternative universe where Bush still has a 90% approval rating and the entire country is in love with the RW Republican Party. They cannot face the fact that everything is crashing down around them and that they cannot fool the majority of people anymore so they have to desperately cling to their delusional lies since facing up to the facts will destroy them and everything they stand for. Let us all hope Billo and his minions keep speaking their true opinions so that the American people can see how vile, hateful and disgusting they really are. And also the MSM enablers - such as Matt Lauer - who seem to think there has to be 2 sides to every issue. There is not a good side to a racist remark, and trying to spin it in Billo's favor really was pretty disgusting on Lauer's part, but I shouldn't have expected any better from that shill anyway, just like Katie Couric during her interview with Petraeus. The people of this country had better begin to seriously consider major legislation in the near future (re:after the 2008 elections) to force corporations to seperate their news divisions from their corporate owners in order to prevent subservience to whoever happens to be in the White House and Congress, and if they don't then their spectrum licenses can be revoked and they will not be able to broadcast ANYTHING. They'll shape up really fast, believe me. I think the Fairness Doctrine needs to be reimplemented; that is the only thing that will make the MSM think twice about what passes for "news" and not propaganda and talking points from the White House.

ysbaddaden's picture

BOR reminds me of one of the white guys, who used to try to prove how down with it they were, by asking a black guy what he thought of last night's Julia show, or Roots.

PAul's picture

You need to really shut your mouth, Billo, before somebody notices that it's just the right place to park their dick for a while.

Yellowbird's picture

The way this jackass keeps calling OTHERS "slime machines" is hilarious.

Does ANYONE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS PROJECTING?

The truth is that Billo is a lout, a bore, a liar, and a slimy racist.

ysbaddaden's picture

Yellowbird @ 129:

The way this jackass keeps calling OTHERS "slime machines" is hilarious.

Does ANYONE NOT UNDERSTAND THAT HE IS PROJECTING?

The truth is that Billo is a lout, a bore, a liar, and a slimy racist.

Projecting slime machine like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-emQAsGMeQ

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

That damned Falafel boy!

He claims that CNN broadcast their story because they wanted to get ratings. Well, if that's true, why didn't they advertise it? It was only a 5 or 10 minute story anyway.

O'Reilly has recently had a Fox commercial for his show being played on CNN. If CNN has gone to the "dark side," is BillO going to have his commercial removed from playing on CNN???

What a jerk.

General Jack D. Ripper's picture

And, by the way....if CNN aired their story to "get ratings," isn't that what Falafel has done? He started his show last night with his usual Talking Points Memo, where he talked about what CNN did; he then proceeded in his first segment to discuss the issue with Juan Williams; then, in his 2nd segment, with Laura Ingraham, he talked about it again! Seems like he's trying to "get ratings" by talking about his story over and over and over.

That moron is so insecure.

ysbaddaden's picture

General Jack D. Ripper @ 131:

That damned Falafel boy!

He claims that CNN broadcast their story because they wanted to get ratings. Well, if that's true, why didn't they advertise it? It was only a 5 or 10 minute story anyway.

O'Reilly has recently had a Fox commercial for his show being played on CNN. If CNN has gone to the "dark side," is BillO going to have his commercial removed from playing on CNN???

What a jerk.

Yes, but O'Really would claim to be...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGrHxt425g4

moses's picture

maybe the "gone to the darkside" comment is another racist statement meaning CNN took the side of the blacks not the billo.

Robt's picture

Poor, poor Bill O.

Why is everybody always picking on him..

Odd Bill frequently espouse disdian for the " Evil Liberal Main Stream Media " while denying he is part of tht Evil main stream Media.

When Bill espouses that FOX is moderate "fair and balance", he shows how he can deny truth. Bill O will not, shall not, and can not be honest enough to accept the fact and profess the fact that FOX (as BIll) have flown so far to the right. That they are deep in Fascist territory and they feel very comfortable enough there to be able to call media matters "the far Liberal left".

They are so far in fascist territory on the right that anyone, anyone that disagrees at all with them,has a different perspective unjustifies their ideology and is therefore the ENEMY ! so a moderate Republican is what Bill O thinks is just Liberal which makes a Democrat an Evil liberal socialist.

Bill O has swung so fascist right that a Pastor of a church is the evil enemy liberal.

kycal's picture

Bill'O is only a reflection of his group. They do not think they are racist. Maybe they aren't, but they are elitist. They would probably react the same way if they went into any area that isn't white and upscale. I am sure he felt he was being very brave by being in a place that isn't lily white. He is the new generation of closet racists.

ysbaddaden's picture

kycal @ 136:

Bill'O is only a reflection of his group. They do not think they are racist. Maybe they aren't, but they are elitist. They would probably react the same way if they went into any area that isn't white and upscale. I am sure he felt he was being very brave by being in a place that isn't lily white. He is the new generation of closet racists.

Funny thing is lillies are considered the flower of death.

Although earlier on Juno knock herself up with Marsyas with the aid of a lilly.

hahahahahah!
What an egotistical crybaby.

rage's picture

Bill needs to talk to the PR officer at his next Klan-in-Media meeting. Their Harlem pamphlet could stand a much needed updating.

No, there was no cussin' and Sylvia's didn't serve the chitt'lins. And, Bill didn't run into Twista or Snoop, no, neither one. There were even, gasp!, a lot of upper middle class, oh my sweet Jesus, white people!!!!! Some of these affluent white people even sat at the SAME TABLE with these colored people. THEY ATE TOGETHER!!!! A WHOLE MEAL! And, several of these colored people had, huge GASP!!!!, MONEY! REAL AMERICAN LEGAL TENDER!!!!! These colored people had dinner with white people and had money.

Yes, the Klan-in-Media PR officer should probably be made aware of this astounding development. These colored people weren't even rappers. None of these dogs called his bitch a who' the entire evening. Shocking! One colored man was served by an actual white man, and he called the colored woman with him sweetheart!!!!!!!

What a tiny-brained little prick!

PapaB's picture

Old White Bill should visit Sylvia's more often. It would do him good to develop some gastronomic sophistication. Coastal Carolina soul food - love it! I'm from Colleton County, SC; trust me on this: Sylvia's customers are the ones with the genuinely discriminating palates.

Kathy in St. louis's picture

We're all actually taking time out of our busy days (including me) to comment on a turd like O'Reilly.

By the way, can anyone tell me what Bill's credentials are to be expounding about the world at large, politics in particular? Isn't he just some hack who was doing an entertainment show or something before Fabulous Fox picked him up? I really don't know much about him, and he's such a total creep, I was hoping not to need to do any actual research. Anyone, anyone?

uncle joe mccarthy's picture

dont tell move-on, but this morning, lufa boy announced that they were dead

Straight Shooter's picture

Toliver @ 104:

So let me get this straight: we are to listen to what he said in the eleventh minute and nothing else? Yeah, that will put it into context!

That's where the interview w/Juan Williams starts. Give it a shot.

What you don’t seem to grasp is that his shock that black people behave in ways he never experienced before tells us that at his age he has not yet experienced their company. How insulated can one be?

He was talking about the whites that don't have much [if any] interaction with blacks that get their impressions of the black community from rap vids/songs.

That argument is patently ridiculous. Very few members of the age group most devoted to Bildo's show watch rap video or listen to its songs. They're still listening to their favorite Connie Francis or maybe Elvis tunes. And you can bet your bottom dollar a lot of Bildo's viewers think Martin Luther King was an uppity agitator.

ronhohn @ 19:

Stephen A Smith (ESPN Radio Host an A-A) defends Billo saying that Billo meant that people in general are surprised that people at Sylvia's acted civil. But that does not explain why Billo said: "I couldn't get over the fact that there was no difference ....".

If Smith thinks his interpretation is correct, then why is Billo talking for a large part of the community. He certainly wasn't talking for me .... EVER!

I have already consigned "Screaming A." Smith to the den of House Negroes for that. Right along with D. L. Hughley. Grrr :-(

STR009's picture

In his own commentary, Bill admits that CNN, MSNBC, And even ABC News (now exactly famous for their left-wing bias) covered his story and relevant racial issues. But instead of admnitting that HE may be part of the problem, he attacks the messengers. Hey, Bill, look in the mirror. You screwed up. Admit it and move on.

-Scott

soothsayer's picture

MACKRIS! :D

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