Frost Parents Talk About The Right's Jihad Against Their Son On Countdown
By Logan Murphy Sunday Oct 14, 2007 9:05pm
In their first television interview since Michelle Malkin, Rush Limbaugh and others on the right decided to crucify their 12 year old son and swiftboat their family, the parents of Graeme Frost sat down and talked with Keith Olbermann tonight on Countdown.
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Bonnie and Halsey Frost, with much the same grace and dignity shown by Shawn Hornbeck's parents after their son was victimized by Bill O'Reilly, tell Keith about dealing with the attacks, including death threats, and debunk all the lies that were spread about their family by the rabid right. To bring this whole disgusting episode into perspective, Keith showed heartbreaking pictures of Graeme and his sister Gemma in the hospital shortly after their horrific accident -- bringing full circle the REAL ISSUE -- which is the SCHIP program that made it possible for the Frost children to get the care and ongoing therapy they need, and is so desperately needed by millions more American children.
How can you look on these poor, broken bodies after the car crash and be heartless enough to say they don't deserve the benefits they received? How can you look at those children hooked up to a hundred devices and tell their parents that they should lose their home, or their children deserve their fate? Never allow the Republicans to call themselves the pro-life party if they have no problem begrudging these children their right to life.
UPDATE: (Nicole) True to her heartlessness, Michelle Malkin (I'm not linking her because she deserves your contempt, not your hits) has this to say:
The Frost parents finally made a wise choice and decided not to put their son on Olbermann. Instead, they appeared to field Olbermann's softball questions about the "lunatic fringe."
Olbermann prodded the family to supply pictures of their children in the hospital recovering from their terrible accident. The photos were displayed as Olbermann and the couple complained about the Right's "distraction" techniques.
It really doesn't get much lower or much cheaper or much sadder than this.
Oh yeah, Michelle, you traitor to motherhood, you've just proven how much sadder it can be. How dare you? Speaking as a mother, I pray with every bone of my liberal body that you never, ever spend one day as the Frosts have, hoping against the odds for the recovery of their children. I can't look at those pictures and not have tears for the pain they must have felt--that's what becoming a mother has done for me--I want to take care of children. You, on the other hand, can't get your horrible partisan brain out of your horrible partisan tush to see any pain, just your own pathetic attempt to raise your own profile among those who could not care less about anyone other than themselves.
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I can hear it now..."the one on the right must be gay because he's wearing lipstick"..."the one on the left is an example of the left's predilection toward pedophilia...YOU CAN SEE HER PANTIES!"
World Class Assholes the folks on the right are!
hey send those pics to michelle and rush...here's your enemies you hateful human monsters.
Every lowlife who dared utter an unkind word about the Frosts ought to perform hara-kiri to restore honor to their own family.
look at those poor babies. look at those struggling parents. then look at screenshots of those arrogant pricks at FOX smearing these people.
I can't believe no Christian organization has moved to boycott these anti-human pricks.
I can't believe no politician has moved to censure these anti-citizen pricks.
I can't believe no freak with anger management issues hasn't punched any of these pricks in the faces.
FOX deserves their own Public Relations jihad. situations like this - I'd really prefer to see a lot of people take FOX's first response to situations like this, and globally debase them for the pissant Enquirer-level-relevant crap "journalists" that they are.
Watch the new SCHIP ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkAvxrgtLr4
Powerful stuff!
If both of these kids had been declared brain dead and their parents were going to remove life support, would Shrub fly in from where he is squatting (the WH) to sigh a Congressional Bill to save them?
What a bunch of hypocritical assholes. Again.
WORST. PRESIDENT. EVER.
Of course, the GOP would only care if the kids were already dead -- SCHIAVO -IP!
One of my favorite George Carlin routines involves his take on the "pro-life" movement: "They're not pro-life, they're anti-woman." He further said that "if you're pre-born, you're fine; if you're pre-school, you're fucked" and that "conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers."
Anyway, good job out of Keith for apologizing on behalf of the media in general for the second time in a week to the parents of a child the right (especially Rush and Billo) has demonized for their own political advantage. You're a class act, Keith. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for mentioning the potential loss of their home for medical bills. The insane right has been yammering on and on about how these "affleunt" homeowners should not have been able to receive any government assistance in the care of their critically injured children. No, according to those filthy rejects, people should lose everything they own, even their modest homes and fair-to-middlin' privately owned small businesses, in order to save their children (or themselves, for that matter). And naturally, their brain dead listeners, most of whom would be in the same spot as the Frosts should they encounter a medical catastrophe, can't muster the empathy to realize that it could well be THEM next.
What righties really want to make is to that any kind of government aid will only go to the most impoverished of Americans, so that they can THEN snidely call it a welfare program, thereby making it easier to work up their usually attack machines in order to cut funds or close it down altogether.
Scum, scum, scum!
Reichwing Jeezus says, 'God helps those who help themselves'.... (to taxpayer $)
It's not often that the evening news has me close to tears, but seeing those kids on a hospital bed did it for me. So did the part where the father thanked Keith for covering their story so responsibly. I knew Keith as a hard-hitting and honest journalist, but I like him even better as a person after watching the sheer humanity that shone through that interview. He is America's, and humankind's, counterpoint to what the American media has let itself become.
....but if we continue to cut taxes then it will all
be OK?
Heartless
My favorite bumpersticker:
"GOP Right to Life: Begins at Conception and Ends at Birth, Suckers!"
You must not know any Republicans. I tried to get one at work once to look at some pictures of mutilated children in Iraq. I virtually thrust it in his face and he refused to look. Another one that I was talking to at work recently told me that the only reason that health care was so expensive in the United States was because people go to the doctor for colds. He claimed he never goes to the doctor and seemed to think that because he doesn't have to, no one else should. Republicans live in a constant state of denial, paranoia, delusions of grandeur and envy of anyone they think might get more attention and sympathy than them (that includes the sick and poor). Conservatism is pathology masquerading as political ideology.
I must be on another planet or have totally missed the boat on this. But why is the right attacking kids that are being hospitalized?
It's kind of wierd. A couple years ago they tried to save a woman who was essentially brain dead and even Bush short his vacation to tend to the matter but they are now complaining about kids involved in an accident that I guess can fully recover.
Maybe I should stay on that other planet I'm on. This proves they care more about the unborn then the ones that are sharing the same oxygen they are.
Next up on Faux News, Dr cat killer Bill Frist says he can tell just from the pictures that the Frost kids were just faking it.
Glenda Beck @ 10:
Actually, Ben Franklin said that.
The book of Acts talks about all the followers selling everything they own so no one would be without. Light years from today's fat, disgusting hatemongers,...
Glenda Beck @ 10:
I'll tell you one thing, I sometimes hope that these crazy fucks have it right; that there is only a one, true christian God, exactly as they describe him, etc etc. Because they are in for one big, bloody surprise when they go to meet their maker and while the rest of us heathen Muslims, Buddhists, druids, agnostics, Hindus, Great Flying Spaghetti Monster worshippers, etc are filing through the Pearly Gates and saying to each other, "Well, how about that! A beard and everthing, just like they said! Hey, dibsies on that cloud over there! Wheee!", directly to our left God will be stomping their wretched asses one at a time, straight through the clouds and telling them, "You really didn't get it, did you? All and of you had to do was be NICE. Good-bye." STOMP!
Ahh, the idea just warms my heart.....
Can someone define "Compassionate Conservatism" for me? Is it really a concept? If so what does it mean?
I think Bush, McConnell, Limbaugh and Malkin should all have to do community service volunteering in one of these rehab units, working with children who's families are struggling to care for them while struggling to pay their medical bills, before they are allowed to make decisions to open their mouths in front of cameras or online. Bush should be FORCED to spend time in the families' homes, watching first hand just how traumatic and draining these kinds of medical difficulties are on the families before he is allowed to pull out that veto pen.
I don't have words (that I can say publicly) to describe what I think of these people.
Bush is frankly lower than pond scum. Lower than the fungus that feeds on pond scum. Actually, lower than the pus that infects the mucus that cruds up the fungus that feeds on the pond scum. (I borrowed this...)
xoites defends Constitution @ 19:
It means compassion for the super-wealthy and the bigots, apparently.
Because someone appears human, does not guarantee they have humanity within them. The same evil that allowed the skin of Jews to be used to make lampshades for the Nazis infects those that attack the Frosts and SCHIPS. The leader by example is the sadistic dry drunk coward known as George W. Bush. In a just world, he would be on trial for crimes against humanity. So would all his neocon enablers.
It is to Keith's credit that both Shawn's and Graemes parents appeared on his show to address these attacks. The parents aren't seasoned pros yet handled themselves with grace and dignity unlike BOR, MM, AC and RL. I can't write out their names, like Geraldo I would spit on them. Except I don't spit.
Let us keep up the pressure and bring this house of cards down and begin to build up our country again to the great nation it was once was. Let's show these people true patriotism.
Chip @ 15:
In my humble opinion, it's really pretty simple:
In the first case, they were trying to rally the pro-life (anti-choice) base.
In the second case, they have a specific political agenda concerning money and the fact that nobody should have any except the rich elite. Every nickel you or I have in our pockets is just on loan from them until they can get a vacuum attachment long enough to suck them out and add them to The Pile.
Or if you prefer: they are a pack of base, lying, selfish, short-sighted hypocrites.
I work at a rehab hospital. Mrs. Frost is absolutely speaking the truth. I knew when I heard Graeme say he had been in hospital for 5-1/2 months, probably 4-plus months were spent in rehab. We get Brain Injury patients daily who have to RELEARN EVERYTHING.
It is not depressing; it is fucking inspiring!! The human body and the human spirit is awe-inspiring. That boy has done remarkable to go from that hospital bed to giving the Democratic response. He IS a hero!
Another telling comment that Mr. Frost briefly mentions is that the reason that he closed up his family owned small business was the cost of health care insurance for his employees... Ironic, no?
nwmuse @ 20:
Keeep going.....
:)
Stan @ 23:
Me neither, but I could make that sound. (cheezy grin!)
Snowball @ 14:
You mean you go to work with pictures of mutilated bodies and thrust them in people's faces? I'm surprised you still have a job, you psycho.
I see this good family and the attacks and threats by pompous elites high up in the power structure and I think one thing:
Blood (figuratively). I want to see the careers of these bullies destroyed. Completely.
Mitch McConnell (Senate minority leader)
Nick Thompson (Shrub staffer)
Rush Limbaugh
Michelle Malkin
save a bloodclot-deny a sick child
xoites defends Constitution @ 19:
Traded that in for.....
Smoke 'em out
Bring it on
WMD
Mission Accomplished
Fight 'em over there, not here
Terror,Terror,Terror!!!
Fear often, Fear always!
Ownership society
And on and on and on...
thank you Keith and the Frost family. i can't believe their is so much hate and evil in America and it's fueled by the disgusting right wing radio scum, republican scum and Bushco neo-con scum.
from: Terrorist Freepers Want Perverts To Attack Frost Children
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The only reason to publish the address on the web of a home full of children is to terrorize the family and to lay a candy path for perverts and other psychopaths right to their door.
What the freepers did, with their willing accomplices in right wing media and entertainment industry (Rush Limbaugh, Michelle Malkin, et. al.) was/were and is/are the actions of a terrorist and a terrorist group. What kind of fear is evoked when your home address and phone number suddenly appears all over the web, and all of a sudden you are answering angry phone calls and having people visit your home. Couple that with emails they have also received, and we all know how hateful freeper email is, and voila, a climate of fear and intimidation has been established.
This is terrorism and it and they should be labeled as such.
Many Democrats, including Nancy Pelosi have stood up for the Frosts against the attacks. But knowing Republican media and entertainment industry, the attacks will continue so long as it provide them traction.
It matters not to them, whether they investigated before they sat at the keyboard and pressed "publish." And we know they did not. It matters not if it was the truth. All that matters is the attack and to leave nothing standing when they are through.
Instead of just writing your outrage in the comments on a blog- DO SOMETHING, show that we will help and protect those who place themselves, and their families in front, and that we will not let these slash and burn tactics continue.
Send a positive note/card to the Frosts. Given what human nature is they will focus on the negatives UNLESS the positives overwhelm the negatives.
Send the Frosts some money. $10, $20, $50, $100
They will need it to increase their security and security around their home and their children.
I did not wish to put the Frost's home address in this diary, but you can find it on the freeper's post. But considering Nancy Pelosi has weighed in on this checks written to the Frost's could be sent to Nancy Pelosi's office. I believe that an aide could deliver them.
Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi
Washington, D.C. Office
235 Cannon HOB
Washington, DC 20515 - (202) 225-4965
Contact your Senators and Congresspersons If they are Democrats ask them to move to protect the Frosts. If they are Republican ask them to not only move to protect the Frosts but ask them how their supporters can put children in harms way.
Coordinate with some group, maybe even the Maryland Democratic Party to provide physical support and face to face words and action of support . I'd say go to their place of business but I don't want anyone of us to mistaken for a freeper than might do them harm.
Answer the right wing media and entertainment industry. Demand that Free Republic take down any and all posts that contain the Frosts addresses. Yeah it's already out there, but it's a start.
Pepper all right wing talk radio hosts and television personalities who jumped on this story. Ask them how they could terrorize a family and damage the security of 4 children, 2 of them handicapped. Where is their compassion?
Stand with and go on the offense for this family. We cannot let this thuggery stand unchallenged, or we are just like our legislators who won't try because it will be a waste of time because "nothing will come of it."
Apparently Ms. Malkin doesn't know the difference between questioning and terrorism.
It's time it is explained to her
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Terrorist Freepers Want Perverts To Attack Frost Children
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/10/10/9181/6512
Wed Oct 10, 2007 at 09:18:01 AM EDT
I love how this administration just sits back and remains quiet or chooses the middle ground in what they say then sends out their Brown Shirts to do the dirty work. I am a firm believer Bush and the gang now exactly what is going to be said and the lies their followers will spread. We see it here and we'll will see it over the next few days with Gen. Sanchez. It just shows you that NO ONE is safe from attack from Neo-Cons.
SkipSmith @ 29:
You are so right, SkipSmith. It is much more sane to sit at home and watch football and pretend our government is not using our money, our children's money and our grandchildren's money to mutilate children in Iraq than try to make people aware of what our government is doing. By the way, since you are in there can you tell me what the inside of your colin looks like?
Snowball @ 14:
Conservatism was not always so pathological and corrupt. The neocons mutated a respectable philosophy into a hateful, self centered version of the original. To them, government is not about other centered service, it's about serve-us.
Bonkers @ 18:
Great Flying Spaghetti Monster Worshippers...tell me more!
This from Malkin's site - "Olbermann prodded the family to supply pictures of their children in the hospital recovering from their terrible accident. The photos were displayed as Olbermann and the couple complained about the Right’s “distraction” techniques.
Here is the video.
It really doesn’t get much lower or much cheaper or much sadder than this."
Isn't this like Ailes saying his network has a separation of Church and State"? Or is is just plain disgusting?
PS Wordsmith@ work - I can't make the sound either. I am just a loser in the spitting department. But I am spitting mad does that count?
Logan, thanks very much for posting this.
Abominable what passes for American Citizens these days. Mean spiteful petty people.
I just would like to ask that people refrain from such hyperbolic language as "jihad against"... I find it plays as merely counterpoint to O'reilly's manufactured trumped up outrages of the week, and seems trite to me.
Maybe it's a minor point, but here's the issue: If I were to point my Republican brothers and sisters to this post and ask them to read and watch, there would be this tinge of looney-tune liberals, based on that language in headline. Of course *THEY* use it on the right. And it's not even an issue of "don't sink to their level"... It's more of just a sensationalist cheat -- which isn't even necessary at all given the subject matter. Why not just say "coordinated smear campaign" and call it for what it is.
2 cents
Stan @ 39:
The only sad thing here is that Malkin and her flying monkeys are not incapacitated with straight-jackets.
One must understand that the likes of Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Malkin target an audience who are of the lowest common denominator. They are knuckle draggers. Miscreants. The dregs of society. Their appeal is measured with grunts and fist pumps.
Those three performers don't speak for me or anyone else with a shred of decency. Their verbal filth is instantly recognizable as lies and fantasies of hate. One should regard these rightwing players as we see them:
Idiots.
Gene Vincent @ 38:
LOL
Bask in the glory of....!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_spaghetti_monster
Malkin and Limpdick always seem to always find a way to take it to a new low.
One of us here is a cold hearted sociopath. I checked, it's not me.
One of the problems with wingnuts like Malkin and Limbaugh is that they never concede a point. They could have said, "OK, maybe the program helped this one kid but ... blah, blah ... socialized medicine ... blah, blah, blah ..."
But they can never give an inch. Ever.
That's nuts.
Compassionate Conservative (n); 1) One who is compassionate about their own well being and no one else’s. 2) One who is easily swayed and fears their own shadow. 3) One who is psychologically incapable of placing themselves in someone else’s shoes. (syn: bigot, racist, hypocrite)
Snowball @ 45:
Why bother with this cretin? Typical to his kind, he completely missed your point. On purpose or because it's the way his/her brain is wired; who knows? But said poster will do anything to avoid the issue or having to LOOK at what his president has done in our names.
Michelle Malkin is a disgrace to humanity!
George W. Bush is a monster. Period.
Roket @ 47:
Or just break it down even more:
it's a soundbite.
It's a bumper sticker.
It's a meaningless, empty slogan meant to make the brain dead, lazy republic[sic] base feel good about themselves without actually them having to work at it.
Mr. XXXX @ 49:
I think she has gone further and now is a disgrace to mammals.
BTW, we were debating Iraq, so I pulled up some pics off the internet to show him the results of what he was supporting. He could have cared less and just didn't want to know. As far as he was concerned, the occupation was about nothing more than the cool military hardware he saw on Fox News.
The right wing "moral majority?" I have yet to see any practice what they preach. Apparently they are more then willing to delve into the deepest cess pool to further their "twisted moral agendas" :(
I guess that bitch hasn't heard about Ryan White. Or dozens of TV commercials and TV shows who use children to relay messages. The stupid skank.
On the site this bitch said the children were fair game.
Snowball @ 53:
You don't need to defend yourself here. I had two friends who got into Christmas Dinner at the Nixon White House during the Christmas bombings in Vietnam and sprayed the entire table (got everyone including Henry Kissinger) with human blood. You bring the blood of the innocent to the people who spill it so they can see their handy work. Ignoring or denying it is truly sick.
It did conveniently and, in typical fashion of a foolish troll, prove my point.
Great post. The Republicans are not Pro-Life. And they never have been.
Yep.
She's becoming quite shrill now.
[Links to michellemalkin.com, for those who don't wish to to go there-Sitemonitor]
I think the Frosts will get their wish of helping others like they've been helped with this appearance on KO.
And Malkin? As the armpit of the putrid right-wing machine, she is performing exactly the role that Mitch McConnell and the rest expect of her. One of the conveniences of a political party running their own traditional media and blogosphere is that the politicians can send others out to do their dirtiest work, although McConnell may have screwed up this time.
No Blood for Hubris @ 13:
No shit!
Good one.
There is a special place in hell for the GOP. The Rethuglicans are a cancer on America. This cancer will be further eradicated in the next election cycle. I loathe the Rethuglicans and their surrogates with every fiber of my being.
I'm trying my best to trust there will come a day I can keep up with the news without wanting to cry and vomit at the same time. It's total crap that rabid neocons like MM continually spew such hatred.
The Frosts are a very courageous family and I wish them all the best.
al @ 54:
It's not a majority (I'm just scared they seem to hover around 30% of the population) and certainly not moral, as the swiftboating of the Frosts, among countless other incidents, demonstrates. More like a sick, twisted, entirely amoral and self-righteous minority.
xoites defends Constitution @ 19:
"Compassionate conservatism" is not giving our troops proper gear to defend themselves in chimpy's bs invasion and occupation because the person making the gear could be hurt making the gear.
Nicole, you are making a serious mistake here. You are assuming that Michelle Malkin is a human being. She's not. I don't know that thing is, but it is not human.
Snowball @ 57:
Quite right; good point. So I stand corrected, as in this case it was engaging the troll and letting it hang itself so ably. Here's to hoping they are perhaps sulking somewhere and rethinking their position.
Bonkers @ 67:
'Scuse me:
*as in this case it was worth engaging the troll
Fixed!
Does Graeme remind anyone else of Tiny Tim from A Christmas Carol?
More to my earlier point. Malkin is stating on her website that the Democrats are using babies as human shields. Her argument is that bringing a human face to the suffering that right wing policies create is somehow unfair and loathsome. The Democrats, she implies, are using children to further their agenda. She is above this. She merely kills children to further her agenda.
d-man @ 66:
She reminds me of the Borg Queen on Star Trek First Encounter.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIdXmC9a3ou
Why doesn't the Right support God's sacred and unique former zygotes?
CD @ 69:
Do the Republicans remind anyone of Ebaneezer Scrooge?
What do you expect from people who make fun of Parkinson's Disease and think that internment camps are a good idea?
How many children does Michelle Malkin have?
Props to the Frosts. Michelle only cares about herself. She thinks nothing can ever happen to her like cancer and that it will always be rosey for her kids
bt @ 75:
At least one.
http://www.nndb.com/people/761/000027680/
I feel sorry for that kid.
SkipSmith @ 29:
Were you born yesterday.....You have no ability to read between the lines...beyond your right wing talking points....
I know many right wing blow hards that denied the destructiont that we are doing not onlyl to our troops, but to innocent civilians in Iraq...and this is when that worker said we are doing damage and has proof of such.....
again...be educated and try to see the big picture that is staring you in the face.....
geez........
I think the advertisers of FOX Noise and the Rush Limbaugh show and anyone that advertises with Michelle Malkin should not be solicited by the morally conscious people here as well. I think you should all contact those sponsors and tell them how outraged you are that they have engaged in public child abuse, and even crimes themselves, as Keith Olbermann pointed out with the death threats. The FBI should be looking into those posters online who made such death threats under assumed names.
xoites defends Constitution @ 73:
Exactly.
They have to be either evil or stupid to intentional let themselves be associated with Scrooge.
Glenda Beck @ 10:
Perfect!
So you can admit and accept that GOD IS WORKING thru the Congress and Senate to help those children who's parents are unable to afford THE SAME KIND OF INSURANCE that Reps and Senators GET FOR FREE!
Same old story... The Republicans SAY that God is on their side... but it's actually THE DEMOCRATS that DO THE WORK OF GOD here on earth.
By the way... Mitch McConnell should be censured for releasing the home address of the Frost family.
[Deleted-Sitemonitor]
I'm trying to figure out when it was respectable. Was that before the Spanish Inquisition, the Robber Barons or the election of Adolf Hitler?
Very well done, Olberman. And a fantastic job by the family. Very Very timely, as the vote is on Thursday. This video needs to be widely distributed.
CD @ 77:
Double your sorry feelings, she has two.
34- Clytemnestra
Good Ideas. How about we find out whois hosting the freeper Free Republic site that published the Frost's address and demand they pull the site down.
Imagine the lawsuit the family would have against such a site if they're hurt by a nut who considered it his "duty" to go to the family's home.
me @ 82:
You are right! I just got a brand new Hummer from that kid testifying! What did you get?
me @ 82:
You are a sicko. I see you condone death threats and going after children....you are a sicko.....stop those petty excuses....you can oppose the program without attacking the family and the kid....but you are a sicko to ill and deranged to know any better.
me @ 82:
The reich-wing stalks, harasses, threatens, and demeans a kid....and blames the left?
Keep it up geniuses.
[Deleted. Flamebait. You are through posting here-Sitemonitor]
me @ 90:
Um...she posted their address online, wonder boy.
OK. I could have done without the pictures of them in intensive care. The interview speaks for itself. Don't give the bitch Malkin more ammunition.
GonzoD @ 85:
That's the funny thing about this NNDB entry.
It says her Husband has two kids but says she only has one daughter.
I'm guessing they're step-kid so they could be living away from the psycho.
xoites defends Constitution @ 91:
And she lied about everything she said about them. Explain exploitation to me please?
Ok me, what about the photo op with the "Snowflake" children after bush vetoed the stem cell research bill?
Or how about when Reynolds(?) brought all those kids in to the presser about Mark Foley to avoid questions?
Was that "using" kids as shields or props? I know it's hard, but think carefully before you answer.
This must be the first C&L vid that brought tears to my eyes. How the Malkin and other wingnuts can attack the Frosts is beyond me. Malkin and her ilk are pure scum. I can't believe it--those kids were broken and she still went after them.
me @ 90:
Yes, it is the fault of Michelle Malkin and people as yourself for the climate and conditions that leads to such death threats to children as Keith Olbermann pointed out. The right wing is known for making death threats as Stephanie Miller can attest to. Making death threats is part of your right wing mindset.....but you are too deranged to know and understand how such hatred spreads. Get a grip, take a deep breath, and have a sip of water....
Let's just say anyone who attacks that kid... I wish nothing but the worst car accident for them. Period.
Dhalgren @ 92:
We actually had a discussion about whether to use the pictures because they are so gut-wrenching to view...I voted that we did.
This is ammunition for Malkin? Screw that. We have the high ground on this. This is not some abstract entitlement concept where they can diminish "welfare queens" and vaguely brown people as "illegals". This is what SCHIP was intended to do. Help children. For God's sake, if she wants to say the children in those pictures should have died or their parents should have become indigent in order to save their lives, LET MALKIN SAY IT.
We know them by their words. Let's let Malkin and her kind show the shriveled blackness that once held their hearts.
Chip @ 15:
Well, they protect pedophiles, lambaste (non-republican-office-holding) homosexuals, and feed people's grown children into the slavering jaws of the Iraq war -- and then scream that they're traitors for speaking out against it.
I mean, they really do seem to think that the only way their base will abandon them is if they're actually broadcast basting, broiling, then eating babies on live TV. So they go ahead and do something that's only marginally less reprehensible.
In other news the GOP kicks puppies and hates ice cream.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/28/national/main712541.shtml
On May 24, President Bush invited 21 families to a White House ceremony and said each of them had "answered the call to ensure that our society's most vulnerable members are protected and defended at every stage of life."
http://www.pensitoreview.com/2006/07/19/bush-uses-embryo-children-as-props/
The event staged by the White House today to announce the president’s veto of the embryonic stem cell research bill was one of the most obscenely crass political displays of the Bush presidency, and that is saying a lot.
In a cynical attempt to focus the public’s attention away from the estimated 100 million, mostly adult Americans suffering from diseases like Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s who might have benefited from the research, the president’s political operatives filled the room with a dozen or so “snowflake” children who were born from frozen embryos reclaimed from fertility clinics.
The craven use of these children as political props became acutely ironic when Bush said of them, “These boys and girls are not spare parts
me @ 90:
No one said Stalkin Malkin made a death threat you twit. Reich-wingers posting at Redstate and the Baltimore sun did. REich-wingers are scum...you are certainly proof.
Nicole Belle @ 99:
I fully agree. The results of policy are real. If we are unwilling to look at what is real out policies will be based on our imaginings. People sitting around and imagining things will turn out for the best if we cut taxes and do nothing will create the exact opposite.
me @ 104:
I did not know Justice Roberts had children (and did not care). I never heard of Noah McCullough.
By the way, how is the glue tonight?
[Actually, true progressives wouldn't attack someone's kids. If someone did that, they were reich wingers pretending, to give the left a bad name. SOP.
'me' is done posting here. Enjoy trying to beat the banned page, dude. Sorry for barging in on your comment, xoites-Sitemonitor]
[...] & Liars has video of the Frosts’ first TV interview, with Keith [...]
Michelle Malkin is part of the right wing crowd whuch spews the vitriol that spreads. She and her ilk on talk radio stir the ignorant into the violent rages that end up in death threats. So, yes, I do hold Malkin and Limbaugh responsible for conditioning many in America to be cold, coarse, and hateful towards other people. They have been able to escape responsibility for their words for too long. These people are well funded and know exactly what they are doing when they utter their hateful rhetoric. Read Naomi Klein's new book. These right wingers do not think anything of children, elderly, or anyone else getting any help from the state. If you cannot make it on your own, "too bad" is the way the right wing think. People like Limbaugh and Malkin and O'Reilly are stooges to uphold that dogma daily on the airwaves. They have helped pollute the public/political discourse and their hate certainly has dovetailed with the death threats to this kid and people like Stephanie Miller. I have been following the right wing for many years now, and making death threats is part and parcel of their ammunition to shut people up. I will not yield from my position of holding right wing "icons" responsible for what has happened to American society and culture.
Here is the big picture as I see it:
Those of you against the S-CHIP expansion have won, at least for now. Bush vetoed it.
The Democrats tried to use the boy and his story to put a human face on the issue to sway public opinion and influence the Republicans and the President.
The disconnect is why anyone would feel the need to go after the boy and his family at all.
They were, and are, legally qualified to receive the federal aid. I am not hearing of any federal investigations into S-CHIP fraud as concerns this family. So if you have a problem, it is with the Democrats for using the family, the government for allowing this family to qualify, or Congress for trying to override the veto. Going after the family is not only stupidly cruel, it is counter-productive to your cause.
Let me repeat the last bit while you oil your fingers for a pithy retort. Counter.productive.to.your.cause.
and did I mention stupidly cruel?
xoites defends Constitution @ 73:
Absolutely NOT! When Ebeneezer Scrooge saw Tiny Tim and understood his plight, his heart melted. As far as I can tell Dickens never wrote a character quite as depraved as Malkin or Limbaugh.
A Troll stood by sadly for hours
Near where'd been two shiny bright towers
With hot tears in his eye
He could not understand why
Yet he hurt with the world's greatest powers.
Trolls come from lands far and near
Through legends and myth they appear
But right now, Today!
To the GREAT USA
They wish comfort and love without fear!
Mmmmmm, elmer's paste , a troll's fine delicacy.
But Malkinese offspring.. man, that sucks in a whole lotta ways.
I must give credit where credit is due. That poem was not mine.
Winner of The Troll Limerick Contest: Martin Calderwood (Utah/USA)
I don't really see how your motherhood is the issue. I'm a childless man, and I still think children should have health insurance. Adults too.
Hate mail to an inhuman monster is encouraged by God.
http://support.rushlimbaugh.com/billing_form.html
What is wrong with Americans who watch these people and support them?
Just like the stories on Gore. An American wins the Nobel Peace Prize and the American media tears him apart and even tears into the Nobel Peace commission. It's just sad, these people are simply indecent.
Malkin is just typical of the "me-first" so-called morality of the American right wing.
When it's not HER child, fuck'em, let'em rot. When HER family is trying to get health insurance and has to face what the market is like (and that's without "pre-existing conditions"), it's a Very Serious Issue.
God knows that if she had a child in a serious medical emergency she'd change her tune faster than a concentration camp harmonica player when Der Fuhrer arrives. And she wouldn't miss a god damn beat.
Fortunately most Americans are smart enough to find her behavior abhorrent. Let the GOP keep digging a hole on this one. Please let them keep responding to photos of children in ICUs and try to nitpick about what car their parents own with pictures of show-room models, not the actual cars. Let them show what un-Christian, heartless, vicious, utterly value-less scumbags they are.
al @ 54:
These people would vote for Lucifer himself if they thought he would give them what they want.
Frankly, we have to keep referring to Michele as a Republican spokesperson. Over and over again. We need to get the Dems to refer to her that way.
Hang her around their neck and let them smell the stench.
Malkin and gang of Conservative Thugs deserve to rot in HELL for what they did to this family.
If I knew her damned address I'd post on my damned blog in a HEARTBEAT!
See my Blog, I have the pictures also.
xoites defends Constitution @ 19:
I'd hate to see if these people weren't "compassionate." Then I guess they would just line the kids up and have Cheney shoot them in the face.
Malkin will get hers. They constanly pretend to be Christians. Well the God they slander will not let these people get by with this some how some way he will bring it home. I have trouble being religious when the God that was supposed to protect this country let bush have two terms in office, start a war, be responsible for the havoc in New Orleans, because they weren't rescued. He has to step in now and give these monsters their due. bush, cheney, rove, rush, malkin, and the rest of the assholes.
[...] Frost Parents Talk About The Right’s Jihad Against Their Son On Countdown [...]
nwmuse @ 20:
You know, I'd like to see these horrible people(?) not only have to volunteer at the hospitals and rehab centers they'd like to see closed to all but the very reich wing nuts. I'd like to have them cook and clean for the parents so that they (the parents) can spend time with their children while they recover.
I liked the mucus, pus and scum thing that you borrowed...
#114
you are so right. we need to understand that these people are monsters.
"These people would vote for Lucifer himself if they thought he would give them what they want."
They did, and he has.
Ed
neil @ 44:
Can you imagine what her kids and husband have to live with?
The shame and the disgust and having to defend the nastiness that spews from her oh-so-large mouth.
Aloha to Bonkers! I love your comment @ 18 and have quoted it on my blog at macdaffy.blogspot.com. If you object, please let me know and I'll haul it down forthwith, but either way, THANK YOU!
Macdaffy @ 124:
Hah! Glad I could give you a chuckle.
Thanks!
malkin. sick, cold hearted republican.
.... my grandmother would say, " Malkin, is but walking viscera..."
Well put, both of you.
Has any of these conservative scumbags shown any compassion, however cursory, for the Frost kids' injuries or their parents' anxiety?
Last thought before bed, and though I felt it, I never said it:
I am so glad those two tough little kids are alive and well.
[...] Murphy at Crooks & Liars has the details of the attacks and death threats they’ve received for speaking [...]
Sadly this is making my relationship with the few people I know that are republican very strained. Not because they have done anything like this but the fact that they have not fully rejected the party by now makes me look at them as if they were missing a few nuts and bolts. Its hard for me to accept that anyone could sit by and say "hey I'm a proud republican", when clearly there is literally nothing left in that party's platform or actions that isn't completely shameful.
OH and as an addendum, I hear that Malkin agrees with the detention of Japanese during WWII. Doesn't she know that since she looks somewhat ethnic herself that she, by supporting this behavior, is subject to the same treatment by yahoos that would believe that someone who looks different or darker might someday need to be put in a camp because they are somehow different?
I don't get it. Her heart must have shriveled to the size of a pea. Its hard to even look at her (yeah yeah some ppl think she's gorgeous) because of her white hot hatred of just about everybody that isn't entitled and rich. I wonder, does it hurt when one is trying their damndest to kill their soul?
Terry Schiavo's parents were Republicans, thus, we should save her even though she was no longer really with us. Graemme on the other hand should have been purged or forgotten since he and his parents keep bad company. Bush and his hypocritical brand has split us apart so far that I don't see how we can ever come together. Where did the acardiac monsters come from and how do they multiply? If I thought prayer were the answer, I would start praying around the clock.
I thought john denver was dead.
I cannot comment about Michelle Malkin without breaking C & L's policy against violence.
I don't think people should send money to the Frosts because it may affect their eligibility for S-CHIP.
Government programs are tricky. It's possible that a cash donation would put them out of eligibility for S-CHIP. For example: if their income is $45,000 and the ceiling is $55,000, $10,000 would put the Frosts above their eligibility cutoff.
(Rosie O'Donnell once spontaneously gave toys and clothes to a woman in her audience who had a dozen special needs children at home. Medicaid considered the dollar value of the gifts and threatened to cancel the children's policies because that "income" put them out of eligibility.)
My post was response to Clytementra's post #34.
Otay @ 30:
Well, one of them just took a huge hit to starboard - Talkin' Michelle Malkin just "quit" the O'Reilly Factor. (see Crooks'n'Liars entry).
Yeah, she "quit" alright.
In response to Post #34
I don't think people should send money to the Frosts because it may affect their eligibility for S-CHIP.
Government programs are tricky. It's possible that a cash donation would put them out of eligibility for S-CHIP. For example: if their income is $45,000 and the ceiling is $55,000, $10,000 would put the Frosts above their eligibility cutoff.
(Rosie O'Donnell once spontaneously gave toys and clothes to a woman in her audience who had a dozen special needs children at home. Medicaid considered the dollar value of the gifts and threatened to cancel the children's policies because that "income" put them out of eligibility.)
TalkieToaster @ 133:
I know. At what point do you sacrafice your humanity for your political party?
Check Out John Cole's piece on this issue - Sam Seder referenced it in a recent broadcast filling in for Mike Malloy. Apparently, Mr. Cole is reregistering as an independent (he was a staunch Republican).
But I must tell you, maybe I'm being naive, but I believe that a fair number of those registered as Republicans are, at least at some level, disgusted over this whole affair, as well.
burnt @ 4:
i cant believe it either. best tv i have seen in a while. every other story pales in comparison.
no one stands up for a kid, disgraceful, including all the dems.
xoites defends Constitution @ 56:
xoites defends Constitution: this has got to be a phenomenally power story -- with such a shocking potent visceral message. i admire just the very concept of doing this, let alone the actual execution oif this.
Do you have any links of notable and accurate accounts of this I coud read on web? You yourself must have a few further anecdotes you could share. Namely: "what happened to them?" and "were there any photos?"
i hope you'll respond here or via my name-line which is my email. thx!
I know computers but I'm not a wiz. I want to send a message against the likes of M. Malkin. Dell is a major advertiser on her site. I need to tell them that as a Malkin advertiser they have forever lost me as a cutomer. She is an ignorant harpy.
Their "Contact Us" info is aimed at site feedback or customer issues. You computer wizzes can help me and others out by finding the real contact info, say, to the Prez. of Dell? Sadly, I think the only way to stop the Malkins, Limbaughs, etc. of the world is to hit them in the wallet. But, hey, that's just the free-market system at work isn't it?
Thanks.
REPUBLICANS: Racist, elitist, money-grubbing, lying pieces-of-shit.
DragonScholar @ 117:
I agree fully:
Just linking the two seamlessly, over and over again. Let someone else challenge and say "SHE's not a Republican Spokesperson." They can't really say that unless they then quote some official Rep spokesman, who will say a milder form of the same thing.
"Oh yeah, Michelle, you traitor to motherhood"
All things being the same, Malkin has cheerleadered the guts on the floor murder of something like a half million mothers and their children.
So, no, it's not news that Malkin is some kind of vampire, some kind of racist warmonger. Expect the heartless demon to care about the Frost's?
She would laugh in glee if their house blew up. She laughed her ass off on Nine-eleven, and she and Glenn Beck fantasized about vomiting in the faces of the Nine-eleven families they hate so.
Malkin and her ilk are the perfect psychopaths for Boy Wonder's echo chamber. These are human sewers.
I simply don't understand the Republican "mind". Nine billion dollars in cash goes missing in Iraq and it's no big deal. Yet spending less than that to help innocent children in need outrages them to the point where they send death threats to a sick little boy.
Perhaps we should develop a program which will get the righties the mental care they so desperately need.
To those who would tone down the message, not show the photos, etc. in order to not "give Malkin ammunition," you need to realize something.
That's exactly what they WANT us to do. They want us to shut up, to cower, to parse everything we say based on how they are going to attack us. That's the whole point of what they do. the only way to fight that is to FIGHT IT.
The reality is, Malkin is giving US ammunition. Yes, her and Limbaugh and others' insane screeds work very well at getting their rabid followers frothing at the mouth, but they are losing other people who were on the fence. The hatred, the lack of ANY decency is starting to sink in. Standing up to them, exposing them and letting them spout their hatred, and forcefully countering that hatred with reality is beginning to have a positive effect. They are marginalizing themselves. They will always have a loyal crowd of damaged lunatics behind them... but by "giving them ammunition," things to attack like grievously injured children, we're letting people finally see what they truly represent.
It's working, and for the first time I'm beginning to have a tiny bit of hope.
Have you noticed the people that the right wing neocon nutjobs attack are usually the most polite, well spoken people you could ever hope to meet.
My heart goes out to this family. Maybe if said program had been available 20+ yrs ago, my sister and her son would be alive today.
As for Michelle the "four letter insulting word meaning woman ending in UNT and I don't mean Aunt" Malkin, she should thank her lucky stars she has never had to face such a thing.
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