Florida GOP Debate Open Thread
By bluegal Wednesday Jan 23, 2008 8:01pm
winners of a Perrspectives contest from 2006.
Tonight's ninety minute debate starts at 9 Eastern Time and is streamed on msnbc.com. Open Thread below for anything worth quoting.
UPDATE: Amato: Huckabee starts the Fl. pandering by saying he wants to build a super highway there...
They are all supporting Bush and his war except for Ron Paul..this debate is painful to watch.
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1ST?
ok... who wants to count the number of times they say Regan??
Lets watch the liars .....
the winner is the one that wants to kill the more foreigners
Gag Our Press? Wtf? So 'Lance' thinks that the press wants to report on what's really going on in this country but can't because the government won't let them? Again, WTF?
And then somebody decided that Lance's entry deserves 2nd place?
McCain, how OLD is that fossil? ....
Andotech @ 5:
who the hell is Lance??
Honestly, who can trust a republican these days? ....
Gaining
Ol' Paul
for the
Long Haul.
WOW ...... Rudy went on for 90 seconds and never once mentioned 9/11 .....
I never noticed that Mr 911 has a lisp like some cartoon character
Regan 1
Yeah Timmy, lets stick another brainless puglican in the People's House ...
This one will blow your mind..
Its Not chimpies fault after all, its all down to them there genetics ;)
Some People Never Learn
Cut tax rates and don't fix the bridges and sell off our roads and highways to private corporations so if "WE THE PEOPLE" have to get to our destination, we pay a price on top of the high gas prices.
Go read McCains Bio ...... He's NOT what this country needs ...
McCain looking like a young and spritely 68 year old with all that makeup...
-DT
What are Floridians going to debate, whether to call sissy boys fags or queers?
What rhymes with Huck?
God, Guns and Gays is all they have ....
and read my lips .... NO NEW TAXES ....
Robert Kinney @ 10:
Yeah, what's he gonna talk about now that the subject is the economy and not his usual
Iraq, 911, mushroom cloud.
Huckleberry. The Mitt, Lock Jaw, Paul, and Lisp.
Screw the infrastructure of this country .... We need to destroy another country over 935 documented LIES ....
16 minutes in the first Ron Paul question.
hey hey
Ron Paul got invited
Orangutan. @ 23:
Rudeeth not tho good if he can't talk about thafety.
DOUBLE HANGINGCHADS!
And the crowd goes wild...
Ron Paul will defeat Rudy once again in Florida ....
Paul wants to reduce regulations. Isn't that what has gotten us where we are now?
ground zero
Ron @ 30:
Paul is clueless on all subjects other than Iraq ...
Here comes 9/11 ..... listen for it ...
he gave the check back
but he did take it first
maybe it wasnt enough, or did he have him just donate to his campaign instead?
I wish there was more time to comment on this thread but I have to run off and compile my 2010 family budget. Is McCain that out of touch that he thinks any middle class person in this country can budget more than a few months ahead???
Temple @ 355:
We need to find out about that.
Jeremy @ 348:
Not only did he compliment him very graciously but he did so for the rest of the field.
The democrats started Vietnam war?
audience yet again gives Ron Paul applause, watch out for the taser's bro
Holy Cow this thing actually ends??
Oh, oh, Paul erected a big tent and the other four guys want to bomb it. The Iron Sheik is rolling in his grave.
This is one show I will not be watching again ... What a snooze ..
ONce again Ron Paul gets the biggest applause. Wonder if the MSM fools will mention that.
Thank God It's Over
WORST DEBATE EVER!!
Dems go over an hour Repubs 37 minutes lol who loves America??
Thank God its over. Now lets see how they spin this shit.
Temple @ 355:
LOL maybe it was the ghost of Ronny?
Morning Joe is full of shit as well ....
Joe Scarbourgh : no doubt this is Mitt's best yet, ye gods
bradda @ 370:
Funny ....
Scar was pretty moderate for awhile, then election season and BAM true colors!
Weird thing is, CNBC can say whatever they want to end the show... why say the word "Florida" so many times in the closing? What were the perceived negatives and positives?
somebody else says this was Mitt's best night ever, mostly because he wasn't attacked and he doesn't do well when he is. Andrea Mitchell says Mitt did well on economic issues
Ahhhhhhhhhhhh Andrea Mitchell is SKELETOR!! Get it off Jimmy, get it off!
Greenspan's wifie is spinning it for McCain, why am I not surprised?
Andrea, go home to your Greenspan, the man who put this country in the demise that it is ....
This is the first Republican debate I've watched this year. I have to take a shower.
Joe and Matthews still talking about Mitt and how much better he is from earlier. Did Mitt "win" this thing tonight ?
I'll bet you K.O. is just sick of Tweety after these debates he begged to do his show tonight. I expect Keith to slam Tweety before the elections!
Agent Provocateur @ 226:
Boy you said it...
You know why it was so boring? Because they kept focusing on Romney, McCain and Guiliani.
Paul got like 2 questions the whole friggin night...
I fucking hate NBC, goddamn General Electric wants to continue their missile and tank sales to the state, and so they don't listen to Paul, because he wants to stop that whole military industrial complex.
I'll be looking forward to the Dems response to this crap ....
General Hillary......I like that....pvt. Mitt!
bradda @ 376:
Scar has always been a shill and repug apologist. He could just see which way the winds were blowing in '06 when the repugs got served. If you watch his show now, there are times when he can't even let Mika finish the news without trying to defend the party line.
Can't wait until the Clintons bitch slap Romney for the litanny of lies he spun about Hillary.
Mitt will be broke before he's president. MSNBC must be trying to score a big ad buy from the Romney camp.
My God. Is this the best the Republicans have to offer? I've seen more animated people at a morticians' convention. What is the difference between them? Where's the passion to lead and the strength of conviction? Compare the Democratic and Republican debates. You're left with the impression that the Democrats are human while the Republicans are out of touch with their humanity. The Democrats gained a lot of votes for their nominee tonight.
nonbeliever @ 388:
Mika's hot and smart! Mmmmmmmmmmmm
The weapons went to Jordan Huckabee??
yeah, why pull out of an illegal war and occupation Huck ....
Huck just said the WMD's might have gone to Jordan... hmm... But Chris just called him on it... not quite Gerald Ford's Poland moment, but close.
Rudy, what about fair trade?
Ron @ 30:
Sarbine's Oxley blow's. It is very good for accountant's and that is about it.
For most average Americans, not making Bush's tax cuts permanate means about 20 dollars a month less per pay...BFD!! Republicans only seem smart because their followers are so fucking stupid.
Rudy ... "Sell to the rest of the world"
Just what do we make anymore ? ......
The host was afraid Ron Paul would directly criticize Bush so he said he was changing the question (only for Ron Paul).
Roger from Ohio @ 2:
They had agreed to say Ronald Reagan nine hundred and eleven times tonight. But Gulliani got mad that everyone was trying to work his side of the street.
when he says increase our taxes
he means his and the rest of his crew.......... if u make over 250K then u should pay more taxes then what they do
the middle class wont have their taxes raised
OMG, they just focused on Guiliani doing some wierd facial tick.
Hey Johnny, what could we have done with that plus TRILLION dollar expense we have occupying another country and destroying it ? ....
McCain just said that "If you what the Democrats debate you will see tax and tax spend and spend!" "The Republicans will fix the economy!" The same fucking economy that they have fucked up for all these years!!!???!?!? What a douchebag!
tax and spend tax and spend tax and spend tax and spend tax and spend tax and spend
Huck is channeling God I suspect ....
WMD went somewherre but we dont know where. Check up your butt Huck!
Good f-ing God! How can ANYONE take the Huckster's WMD BS seriously?!
NBC ' s finest moment! Not !talk about letting the country down.
Timmy makes me sick ....
Talcott @ 346:
Corporate welfare is a byproduct of capitalism, not socialism. I have a Canada Pension Plan that is not optional. You work, you pay. I pay the maximum every year. Will I get it all back? Nope, but some poor bastard that needs the help will get some. That my friend is socialism. What you got right now, is massive Crony Capitalism that is choking the living shit out of every supposed democratic nation on the globe. Hell, Communism is oh so bad, that the US needs loans from those evil bastards to keep afloat!! Sad. Healthcare should be socialized everywhere. Those that can afford to pay do, those who can't don't. Healthcare for all.
Swashbuckler @ 397:
Hey, don't diss the Huckster. He got that information straight from Dick Cheney.
Did anyone hear ANY answers tonight? ... Any?
You idiots! I've got the WMD's
Yeah Timmy, thanks alot for doing your job and asking the tough questions.
Ron Paul was the only one with guts enough to not fall in line with the NeoCon thinking that the Iraq war was a good idea. Everybody else up there thought the Iraq war was a good thing.
I hope, in light of all we have found out (the 935 lies to get us there) that the American people get some accountability on this issue. These were criminal acts, so if we don't impeach, which we wont, then we should have trials after they get out of office.
We want our America back!
My goodness, what reprehensible human beings Romney and McCain are. Pathetic.
RUDY/CHENEY '08
Sometimes I forget that McCain's son is a Marine serving in Iraq. It amazes me that he doesn't ever make mention of it. Any bets on when he trumps out his combat boots like Webb did?
latinck @ 396:
LOL! Yeah Huck is pretty clueless or pretending to be...
Ron Paul is winning again! Ha! This is great! I know this has to piss off the corporates in the media! Hurry, catch it before they remove it from the site!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22830366/
RUDY CONSERVATIVE? ..... Tell that to your many ex-wives ...
nonbeliever @ 409:
Nah, he's pandering to the cons who can't admit that the U.S. was wrong...
Anyone else hear right towards the end, Russert's question to Willard O'Mittens about whether he'd "do what Ronald Reagan did" in the early 1980's re social security?...when Russert's finished the question, if you turn up your tv, you can hear someone whisper (loudly) "raise taxes raise taxes" and then Willard goes "I wouldn't raise taxes, blah blah, raising taxes would be the dumbest thing ever, blah blah"
WHO GAVE MITTENS THE ANSWER -- WHO WAS WHISPERING REPUBLICAN TALKING POINT ANSWERS TO HIM DURING THE DEBATE??????????????
Fritz @ 410:
Lets watch the liars .....
Paul in a Landslide .... But they won't report it ...
Was the war in Iraq worth the blood and treasure it cost?
Every single one of these clowns said 'yes', with the exception of Ron Paul.
More nails in the GOP coffin come November.
More softballs than at a Playboy Bunny charity game.
WOW, Ron Paul kicked ASS on the poll following the debate. check it out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22830366/
Fritz @ 410:
LOL! Somewhere in America, A corporate reTHug donor is slitting his wrists!!
Robert Kinney @ 231:
hell it would probably be more interesting watching them pinch a loaf then debateing
01-20-09
Can Not come soon enough ..........
tyree @ 419:
LOL ... Do they tap their foot while they "pinch the loaves"
tyree @ 419:
ah, truth .......
Swashbuckler @ 412:
There wre no WMDs and they knew it. Hans Blix was kicked out just before the invasion began. Here is a theory 've thought about.
I think that they invaded Iraq, not for the oil, but to raise the price of oil. Now of course, the prices are up, they want to steal the oil. Do you think for one minute, that if we had negociated for the sanctions to be lifted, that Saddam wouldn’t have sold us the oil? Him selling us the oil would have kept the prices down to $20-30 a barrel. Now, on top of ripping us off at the pump, they want to control Iraqs oil also.
Tweedy is a smuck .......
McCain wants to be in Iraq for "a thousand years" .....
Did anyone hear any praise tonight of the fraud we have in the White House at present? .....
Matthews is in his height of glory. He can continue his ragging on the Clintons. And he actually thinks that all the yelling behind him is for him! I don't know which is worse; the repug candidates or the talking heads that are on now - Tweety, David, Joe Scar.
humboldtblue @ 198:
Humbuttblue...quit talking out of your asses , it really stinks!!! You prozac pooping piece of shit!
didn't see it. did rudy's lipstick at least match his tie?
Pre-planned......don't hurt the party...questions to each other.....slam Democrates
(got it fellas...got it)
GE: SELL ADS!....mitt has big bucks, give him the most time...
*Note: They all think he who spends the most will be preznut.
tlb22 @ 413:
Okay I thought it was those voices in my head again...yes I heard it too! Maybe he's wearing Bush's backpack w/stylish ear piece.
The Dems can't lose this election, can they? I mean, the stage is full of has-beens and caricatures...
-DT
I like the way Huckabee talks about the poor. That is cool of him.
My head is spinning watching tis crap. Do people REALLY believe this shit? Wait....oh yea they do.
isnt trickle down economics a concept made up by Regan??
How come we never see Huck's wife .....
Mitt Romney makes Ken dolls proud everywhere.
-DT
Not that we want to , mind you ....
MITT!!! Washington is broken!! Well who broke it dumbass??
Talcott @ 37:
That's easy to say now. How many people got taken for a ride by Enron, Adelphia, MCI etc. If SarbOx is repealed we can just resurrect Ken Lay and get it over with.
Regan 1 1/2
McCain 1
Huckabee 1/2
Romney is a nutcase ...
My god. This is like some insane game show.
"Who Wants To Be A Crooked Thief?"
Mitt wants to reign in entitlement! ROFLMAO
3.5 trillion in added debt and these clowns don't have any real problem with that and want MORE tax cuts. Those poor little rich folks are barely getting by.
911 911 911 911
Willard Romney, his real name, is out of his mind ....
Pathetic choices for president.
Giuliani's upper lip has receded 3 cm during this debate alone.
-DT
These guys are running for president?!?!!? I thought this was Deal or No Deal!!!
Dinosaur Trader @ 48:
I agree, but I also remeber the SNL skit which was a debate between Dukakis and Bush, where Dukakis turns in the middle of the debate and says "how am I losing to this guy?" It's happened before.
Mitt's bitching about Washington, just who does he think was in charge the past 8 years? How the hell will he be any different in getting the Congress and the R's to do his bidding. What a joke
oxymoron = Republican principles
Let me get this straight, the whole country is in ruins and one of them, Bush has been in charge for the last seven years .... And they charge the Dems are at fault .... wtf ? ...
flamethrower @ 61:
Amen Brother!
Ron @ 423:
Swash, I think we're in agreement. Him pretending to be clueless is pandering.
Ron, your theory is not so far off in that they definitely wanted to invade Iraq to control the spigot. Saddam was threatening to sell his oil on euros instead of the US dollar once the sanctions ended.
We need the video of Romney getting answers whispered to him posted on CrooksAndLiars for everyone to review. We must make a big deal about this!!!!
I found that the whispering incident was referenced on many message boards... notably, New Republic pulled the entire thread. There also seems to be a notable campaign to discredit the event as if it never happened, but, it's already online : http://www.justin.tv/ronpaultv/62347/Strange_Whisper__Romney_Raise_Taxes
McCain is Mr. Iraq
Huckabee is Mr. God
Romney is Mr. Corporation
Paul is Mr. Elimination
Rudy is Mr. Terror
We need the whisper video on C&L!
Ron @ 423:
Personally, I don't think they knew there were no WMDs. I think they believed their own BS. But even if they had known, it wouldn't have mattered. They didn't CARE if Iraq had WMD.
For bureaucratic reasons we settled on one issue, weapons of mass destruction, because it was the one reason everyone could agree on.
--- Paul Wolfowitz
The neocons would have gone ahead WMD or now WMD...
Looks like Bill and Hillary are the big winners in the Republican Debae tonight.
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