Open Thread
By bluegal Saturday Feb 09, 2008 10:30pm
Tengrain Presents "Rapture Ready Republicans!" at Mock, Paper, Scissors.
Tengrain also notifies us that blogger Wyldth1ng is home from Iraq!!! Welcome home, friend. Just, welcome home.
Open Thread below...








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Fuck!
Hillary's so desperate for attention, she's trying to re-write history. A Marine tries to downplay another under-age Japanese girl rape accusation as simply a molestation.
rip roy scheider
ok, so this is not a political post...i dont care
i was 14 when i saw jaws
a piece of my childhood was taken away today
i am sad
Krugman has an interesting op-ed...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/11/opinion/11krugman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=sl...
liberalista: Krugman has a hard-on for Clinton, and can't think straight as a result. Obama is the one who was attacked first, not Hillary. If the Clintons don't like the negative karma they've built up over the years, they need to own up to shipping jobs overseas, bombing an embassy and a medicine factory, and enabling the Neo-con war.
Absent of a logical argument for the actions of US policies the Americans use the same biblical arguments that have been used by the Abrahamic traditions for many centuries. The more they need to justify their illegal and illogical actions the more profound their religious belief seems to be.
Speaking of a hell on earth scenario, consider this noteworthy read, illustrating dynamics of the controlled-opposition "Health-Freedom" group, Natural Solutions Foundation, run by Dr. Rima Laibow. See how the game is played by this group, busily pretending to support access to nutritional supplements, when in fact they are working to undermine it. http://www.healthfreedom.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2...
Welcome home Wyldth1ng
thank you for your sacrifice for our country.
if i had my druthers, you would never have been
put in harms way.
Global warming comes early to SC and VA. Gates flip-flops on a troop drawdown.
I like the term I read on the other thread, Obamatrons seem to fit.
I'm reminded of the old Apple Ad where the sledge hammer is thrown at the screen of lockstep marchers. Obama, Obama, yes we can, yes we can, Obama, Obama,
They're not asking questions, so desperate, they haven't got a clue. If this country needs anything it's independent thinkers. It's people who will ask questions and hold the leaders accountable. So far I see no questions presented that require Obama to explain his plans beyond the pre-orated speeches that can be found on the website or youtube. His oration comes off like instructions on a box of cake mix, but there are no Ingredients to be found, though the instructions make you mouth water you'll never get a cake.
After I read this article, I thought to myself:
"I can think of who else [Pelosi] is a failure [getting us out of Iraq] that did not produce the desired effect [voting democrats into Congress to end war]"
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8422.html
Roy Scheider's performance in All That Jazz was one of the best ever. Add to that Jaws and all his others and we have a great loss.
Now that Bob Fosse and Scheider have both passed, Joe Gideon is truly dead. But he lives in my heart.
Truth Seeker @ 11:
Or could it be that this is another red herring and the real impersonator to the throne is Hillary?
I do not work for any presidential candidate in any way, shape, or form! Just stating the facts without rhetoric! You should try it!
uncle joe mccarthy @ 3:
One of my favorite Dustin Hoffman movies (Marathon Man)Roy Scheider play his older brother and died early in the film but left an impression on me to this day, I share your sadness!
Truth Seeker @ 15:
Just asking a question!
Truth Seeker @ 15:
"Just stating the facts without rhetoric!" Looks like conjecture to me!
Truth Seeker @ 11:
and this dumb ass is here only because the sitemonitors are gone for the
night. why don't you crawl back in the septic tank you came out of.
Truth Seeker @ 15:
I see nothing wrong with rhetorical devices as long as there's substance behind them. It also helps to include working links (in the comment @ 11 above as well as the other C&L threads where that identical comment was
spammedposted).fiver @ 20:
the sitemonitors during the day have censored this guy before for this shit.
I am not yelling at anyone! I just wanted to make it clear I am independent!
#19-Some people do stay up later than others you know! I didn't crawl out of any septic tank!
If you would like, I can post the same thing bright and early in the morning, afternoon, or evening!
Truth Seeker @ 11:
I actually (to my shame) took the time to go to the site and look around and read the article. Site seems to be a local SF women's newsletter run by well meaning middle aged humanitarian and women's issues focussed female staffers. Draw your own conclusions...
The article was a long amateurish conspiracy theory style diatribe on the 'Obama + Rove' theme of the title full of un-sourced innuendo, for the most part. I will post this review at my own convenience wherever you spam this site with it for wasting my time with your crap.
I am not sure why the link does not connect, but if you copy and paste it in your search engine on Google, it WILL come up! I am not spreading anything false!
It is amazing how when you start stating facts, the evil aggression comes FULL FORCE!
Truth Seeker @ 27:
Just copying and pasting someone else's opinions is not stating the facts.
Truth Seeker @ 27:
Of course. Because anybody not buying into Hillary's "truth" is irrational, misogynistic, a right wing troll, and now: an"evil" aggressor. Please don't bother. There are dozens at this site who can pull it off far better - and without the tinfoil hat nonsense.
It's late. GNA.
Yeah I am copying my own message because it needs to be known! Not all people are followers that do not think for themselves!
How do you know I am supporting Hillary? How do you know I was not an Edwards supporter? How do you know I have not already voted?
Stop assuming and liberate your mind! That is unless you are employed by the opposing candidate and automatically like a robot start spewing hate and blame against Hillary making baseless claims of typical rhetoric!
WTF EVER!
Get a life!
Your ignorance does not change the facts! So spew hate and blame all you want!
Truth Seeker @ 23:
And furthermore, because if I was bored enough to read your shit I might as well give you some:
I am not yelling at anyone!
Take it easy on the '!' key idjit!!! On the innertubes that's yelling!!!!!
SO's ALL CAPS ROOKIE MORON!!!!!
Besides, You'll wear out the '!' key on too many keyboards and whoever hired you for 'Great Internet Opportunity' will fire you before you pay for the dent you put in your mom's Kia.
I just wanted to make it clear I am independent!
Don't you mean in Depends, retard? (mom's Kia remark still pertinent)
#19-Some people do stay up later than others you know!
Who do you think is talking back to you, dumbass. The little Gulliver's steno pool in the 'puter thingy screen?
I didn't crawl out of any septic tank!
Well, I can only assume you're waiting for it to fill up so you can just roll out you lazy POS(if you don't know, ya better ax somebody).
If you would like, I can post the same thing bright and early in the morning, afternoon, or evening!
See #25, asshole, and lay off the meth for awhile.
Domino @ 13:
I have to say that Scheider's performance in "All That Jazz" was absolutely one of his finest. Glad to see you mentioned it here considering the fact that he will mostly be remembered for "Jaws"
Still does not change the facts! I will still get my message out, so go harass someone else! You are not going to bully me anywhere! Nice try! Your disgusting hatred just reveals exactly what you are! NOTHING!
Truth Seeker @ 30:
Wild guess.
Truth Seeker @ 30:
What an amazing coincidence. I must be prescient. Now it's back to work on rocket science and brain surgery.
lafin gas @ 16:
he was badass in that film...
Truth Seeker
Is that Rovian for Lie Spreader? Just asking!
Hi fiver, backatcha 8-)
will check back AM
"Last word, freak." - Melvin Udall
out
The Rovian Lie Spreader
Note the handy centre partition the prevent the migration of lies from the right chamber to the left.
http://aggie-turf.tamu.edu/aggieturf2/calculators/dropspreader.gif
The Rovian Lie Spreader/ 2nd. attempt.
Note the handy centre partition used to prevent the migration of lies from the right chamber to the left.
http://aggie-turf.tamu.edu/agg.....reader.gif
For those really big lies like coward or religious affiliation, black babies or weapons of mass destruction the pros prefer the corporate "broadcast" spreader.
http://extension.missouri.edu/explore/images/eq0383art03.jpg
If there is a rupture, bush is going DOWN.
Truth Seeker @ 35:
But you're just sharing the facts. LOL! There's a place called "Above top secret" you'd probably like. It's made for the tinfoil hat set.
Don't drop an article in and scream "it's the facts" when it's one ridiculous unsubstantiated article. If you have an ounce of sense you know no one is going to take one article at face value and believe it as is.
Truth Seeker @ 33:
Well, after dicking around with your link, I finally got it to work. So one woman's opinion is fact? I didn't see any facts, or proof in the entire article. What I read was a conspiracy theory opinion piece. Got any facts to back up that opinion piece?
The obamatrons are destroying this website.
Daily Reading pt 1...
Obama Surpasses Clinton in Numbers of Pledged Delegates With Weekend Sweep -- A BuzzFlash Editor's Blog
- http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/editorblog/046
Obama is Now the Official Winner in Maine. He Sweeps Four States and the Virgin Islands This Weekend. Not Only Did Obama Grab Every Contest on Saturday and Sunday, He Swept by Huge Margins.
- http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/
Bush Eliminates Funding for Reading Is Fundamental’s Historic Book Distribution Program Serving 4.6 M Children
- http://www.rif.org/about/press/reinstate_rif.mspx
"President Bush’s proposed budget calling for the elimination of Reading Is Fundamental’s (RIF) Inexpensive Book Distribution program would be devastating to the 4.6 M children and their families who receive free books and reading encouragement from RIF programs at nearly 20,000 locations throughout the U.S.Reading Is Fundamental, Inc.founded in 1966, motivates children to read by working with them, their parents, and community members to make reading a fun and beneficial part of everyday life.
Why do the Republicans hate education? Simple...they want a slave labor force to rule over...
Americans Demand Health Reform - http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/node/735
Consumer Reports Health did a survey on American's views on health reform that confirms we have now reac
Daily Reading pt 2...
Americans Demand Health Reform - http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/node/735
Consumer Reports Health did a survey on American's views on health reform that confirms we have now reached the point where the majority favors reforming our health care system. But the more disturbing aspect of the survey is that public's perception of what is driving the high price of healthcare is different from reality.
Philip Roth: 'Bush Is Too Horrendous To Be Forgotten' - http://freeinternetpress.com/story.php?sid=15258
German news magazine Der Spiegel recently interviewed American author Philip Roth. Except: SPIEGEL: What will remain of the current pres,Bush? Could he be forgotten once he leaves office? Roth: He was too horrendous to be forgotten. There will be an awful lot written about this. And there's a lot to be written about the war. There's a lot to be written about what he did with Reaganism, since he went much further than Reagan. So he won't be forgotten. Someone has said he's the worst American president we've ever had. I think that's true.
Global Corporatocracy Update: Venezuela: President Hugo Chavez on Sunday threatened to cut off oil sales to the United States in an "economic war" if Exxon Mobil Corp. wins court judgments to seize billions of dollars in Venezuelan assets. - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/10/AR200802...
The office of Vice President Dick Cheney is seeking to block the release of videotaped depositions given by two aides who witnessed a physical encounter between an Iraq war opponent and Cheney. - http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_8220304
As the clock ticks down on George W. Bush’s presidency, his administration is eager to forge an agreement with Iraq to secure a long-term U.S. presence there. Last November, Bush and Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki signed a joint declaration of principles, and they expect to sign a bilateral agreement this summer. Although the administration has kept the details of the agreement close to its vest, it has made one thing clear: It won’t submit the agreement to Congress for approval.
- http://www.law.com/jsp/dc/PubArticleFriendlyDC.jsp?id=1201601142729
Occupation for profit....backdoor deals with a Big Oil created puppet 'government'....locking us into our 'addiction to oil' brought to you by the first ever Big Oil president
Daily Reading pt 3...
Cafferty: Why are Young Voters so Energized? - http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/02/08/young-people-revved-up-for-...
As the BuzzFlash Editor's Blog Has Noted, It Could Come Down to the 26 Edwards Delegate Votes. Ergo, this story, "In light of the secret Edwards-Clinton pow wow last week in Chapel Hill, Clinton's pro-Edwards comments yesterday in Lewiston, Maine, become that much more interesting. NBC News also confirmed that Obama will meet with Edwards there tomorrow." - http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/10/653700.aspx
Clinton campaign manager out: "The campaign of Sen. Hillary Clinton announced today that Patti Solis Doyle was out as campaign manager. Chicagoan and long-time Clinton loyalist, Solis Doyle will be reassigned to a new position in the campaign." - http://weblogs.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/blog/2008/02/clinton_cam...
Writers Guild asks members to ratify contract, end strike - http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/TV/02/10/hollywood.labor.ap/index.html
GOOD NEWS! We'll be able to see Dems back on the air (TDS/Colbert Report), and shows with intelligent writing....don't ever underestimate how important it is to have writers out there dropping subtle hints about societies problems...picking up the concept of 'editorials/commentary' that have been dropped by the MSM infotainment kingdoms...
This Week's Top Ten Conservative Idiots - http://journals.democraticunderground.com/top10/324
Check out the picture on #3....saws it all....."If you liked Bush, you'll love McCain"...
Bush's Best Buds Update: A federal judge has temporarily blocked Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the former Saudi ambassador to the United States, from removing real estate sales proceeds from the United States pending resolution of a class-action lawsuit. - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080210/ap_on_go_ot/bandar_suit;_ylt=AiqggAv...
"Creationists Seek Foothold in Europe." - http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory?id=4267074
Rib bones, living in belly of whale for 3 days, walking on water, water to wine, Noah & 2 of every animal including 'baby dinosaurs', etc, etc..... Do I really need to continue????
Daily Reading pt 4...
Ding Dong...another wicked witch is dead: Ron Paul Cuts Staff - http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/02/viva-ron-paul-r.html
Great mock, paper, scissors!
My religion has perfectly prepared me for the 15 th century. Unfortunately, I'm living in the 21 st century. See "there will be blood" a great line from the Eli Sunday minister character when forced to utter convincingly for the almighty buck, "I am a false profit, and God is a superstition."
My belief is like the cleric in the 14 th century, Pascal, who is credited for the math theory of probability. When question about his religion and existence of God, Pascal stated four probables 1. There is a God and my religion is true, I live that way I am ready for eternal blessings in the afterlife (rapture). 2. I live my religion with honesty and willingness to do good. I am wrong. Have the longest sleep like Plato thought, but at least I've been part of a solution, not a problem. 3. I've lived a life of dishonesty, selfishness, not loving, and impure. I die. Go for the big sleep. No heaven (rapture)or no hell for me, I've been a problem to others, no ones solution. 4. I live like # 3, and find out the myth was really the gospel (truth). There is Satan and God. Opps, eternal damnation.
For me I believe, I want to believe. It is the 'road less traveled,' but the best road I know.
Oh yeah, impeach Cheney and Bush they are living in probable # 3 or # 4.
People don't seem to realize that the Rature† has already happened, you missed it. You and everybody you've ever known or known about didn't make the cut. Sorry.
My nightly prayer: "God, could you please Rapture these idiots already and get them the F--- off my planet?"
Am I seeing things or did Barak Obama win a grammy ????
Field 19 — Spoken Word
Category 79
Best Spoken Word Album (Includes Poetry, Audio Books & Story Telling)
* The Audacity Of Hope: Thoughts On Reclaiming The American Dream
Barack Obama
[Random House Audio]
My mother and her church members have been waiting for the rapture since 2000. Y2K was supposed to wipe us out. They want to feel justified for keeping this idiot in power by subsribing to the belief that they themselves are the chosen ones. But the rapture hasn't come yet and they are starting to get a little jumpy. Could it be that they are wrong?
Domino @ 13:
More thoughts on Scheider:
Recently became an outspoken critic of the Iraq war. And other notable roles: I remember the public outcry over "the government invading our privacy" when the movie "Blue Thunder" came out and everyone saw all the incredible surveillance technology onboard that chopper (see through walls and listen in on conversations.)
And a personal Scheider fav of mine that is often overlooked: "2010". :)
I thought 9/11 was the rapture.
Proud2bHumble @ 1:
Great entrance! (And good advice.)
im nether a clinton or obama supporter but im wondering since i feel the repigs dont intend to let go of the presidency or the power they have garnered if! the plan that rove has came up with is really martial law ! suppose obama wins the democratic nomination , and the super deligates give the nomination to clinton, could thier not be an upriseing in the black communities simmular to thoes in watts and the aftermath of martin luther kings murder? many blacks from the inner city started burning buildings and commited looting and killings in thier citys , as it happened in my home town ive seen first hand this happen, it put my city under a cerfew and its possible if that happens thier will be martial law declared and no elections held letting bush remain in office and starting a war between the whites and blacks in america , just speculation !
I didn't realized so many people would be pissed off that I came home. Maybe I should go back.
ww @ 53:
Thanks for that. I don't want to go where these people are.
As an atheist, I admit it does bother me that there is no firery pit awaiting the the murderous thugs that hijacked our country, and that most of them will die comfortably in their beds after living to be very old and wealthy.
Religion has never been more than the power elite's prefered method of crowd control, a way to keep the oppressed from finally killing them all and taking their stuff. I sincerely doubt that any world leader actually believes in a judgement day, because if they really did, they'd all be cowering in a cave somewhere, afraid for their immortal soul for all the crimes they committed.
Just had my taxes done by a friend of mine who is an IRS agent (good way to be sure everything passes muster). She said that the economic stimulus package is only an advance against future tax returns, and will have to be declared as income. the entire amount will be deducted from future tax returns until the entire amount is paid back. The only group that is actually going to get a give-away will be business and corporate America as they will be receiving tax credits. And the people who could most use a break will get little or nothing.
Amberson @ 32:
Damn straight. All That Jazz is a must-see. I don't particularly like musicals or dancing films but I LOVE that movie. Roy Scheider is a big reason. He ruled.
Funny Stuff bluegal!
Truthseeker - I love a good conspiracy theory, but that article really didn't seem to have any facts. How about a smoking gun?
Forced testing in English in Illinois
According to this article, No Child Left Behind is forcing the Illinois State Board of Education to require ISAT achievement testing in ENGLISH ONLY or lose "millions -- if not billions" in federal aid.
The Chicago school system has offered to PAY to let kids take the test in other languages.
This clusterf*ck will cause schools to be labeled as failing under No Child Left Behind and they will not get funding where it is needed most.
http://www.wbbm780.com/State-Testing-In-English-Upsets-Bilingual-Schools...
jonesy @ 65:
http://www.andy.m.wood.btinternet.co.uk/london.jpg
NOW do you believe it ?
uncle joe mccarthy @ 3:
So the question is ..
Is it now SAFE to go back in the water ?
Is Obama A Republican Plant?
Truth Seeker @ 11:
Well besides Pennsylvania having a closed primary, I find it odd it begins raving how Rove is supposedly manipulating for Obama in this opinion piece. While it then closes with praises of super delegates who will "insure" the Democratic nominee is actually be determined by Democrats. That and going on how Howard Dean and the DNC need to stay out, without any mention of the DLC, makes this article's analysis and objectiveness a bit questionable.
Brad @ 7:
by now you should know that when the chimp says something always assume the opposite after reading "Bush on the couch" I can only say that the whole administration is sick
If there is a rapture there are going to be a lot of bible thumpers left behind but I guess they can still worship in there million dollar + churches and rail against whatever menace of the day is.
Dante needs to make up another level of hell for the likes of bushco and this administration
I also hope The Rapture happens soon. That would mean that (1) the rest of us could finally live in peace and (2) we'd get all that stuff the Rapturees went deep into debt for. It would also mean the Rapturees would stiff the credit card companies. That too would be a good thing.
I want another Ted Rall comic. LOL This one was corny.
I think on January 21, 2009 at 11:59 PM I'll come as close as I'll ever be to experiencing it It won't be rapture but it'll feel pretty damn good to see this A-hole gone.
Dear YouTube, Can We Solve This Problem?
actor212 @ 69:
Actor, knock it off. We know you Clintonistas are a little cranky today, what with Obama beating the Clintons in 6 contests over the weekend -Washington, Nebraska, the Virgin Islands, Louisiana, Maine and the Grammys, and it sucks that Hillary had to fire her campaign manager, but really, please lay off the cheap mudslinging... m'kay? And I'll promise not to taunt or post any links to any Clinton scandals today... but today, only, so as to let you lick your wounds a bit. Thanks!
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