Dan Abrams Punks Rep. Kingston - Where's YOUR Flag Pin?
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Feb 27, 2008 4:15pm
Jamie covered Republican Rep. Jack Kingston's smearing of Senator Barack Obama for being unpatriotic because he refuses to wear a lapel flag pin -- all while not wearing one himself. Last night on Live with Dan Abrams, the host calls Kingston out for once again labeling Obama unpatriotic while he himself was NOT wearing a flag pin.
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Abrams: You're not wearing a lapel pin, are you?
Kingston: I will wear one and I have worn one. I'll bring one to your next show.
Abrams: But you see my point. I had no idea you were going to show up without a lapel pin, but it seems kind of absurd that you're saying that Barack Obama's patriotism should be questioned because he's not wearing a lapel pin and then you come on the show not wearing one.
Kingston: Well Dan, I'm not following that at all.
Say, what? Kingston glosses right over Abram's challenge, saying it's OK to be a hypocrite on this issue simply because it's a good tactic to use as it gets a rise out of Democrats. He also defends the juvenile use of Obama's middle name, once again justifying the behavior because it pisses of the people on the left. Abrams did a great job of making Kingston look like the nut that he is and shows how ridiculous this whole line of smears really is. I think the GOP is going to find swiftboating a tad more difficult in '08 than in years past.
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Kingston = douche bag
"Well Dan, I'm not following that at all."
Sadly, I'm sure he didn't.
What a moron.
Poor old Obama.
He sure gets picked on.
This Kingston guy seems like a good looking fellow, but his intelligence quotient is severely lacking. He is about as dumb as you can get. Or at least he acts that way. Fake ass Christian is what some people call them.
This is the sort of thing the press can get excited about.
Lying us into war - not quite worth a serious inquiry.
Apparently, Kingston wants to BE pinned. By a Senior. Or to the mat.
let's see. Obama w/o flag pin=Unpatriotic.
Kingston w/o flag pin=Patriotic
All together now:
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I look forward to seeing Mr. Kingston pilloried on FOX for his spurious contempt of the American Flag, made in China, tm.
Kingston is way too cool a name to waste on this rokit siantist.
Have these simpletons actually reduced patriotism to wearing a pin? Sad.
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lol Dan punked that bitch big time!
This sap Kingston,...'Defends the juvenile use'.... etc etc... Yea... Just a whole lot of 'juvenile' behavior being floated about during this election...Like turds floating in a unflushed toilet bowel... A spectacle to be sure... But not a goddamned bit of substance to any of it.. Blah blah blah, where's his pin? Where's his sense of patriotism... Fuck you Kingston! If it was up your ass you'd know...asshole!!!! JD
I dunno, call me crazy, but if this is all the Republican machine has on Obama, then he might as well be sworn in next week, because no one is gonna pay attention to those kind of attacks.
Assclown.
I've said it before but soon republican whack job neo-cons are soon going to be judging someone's patriotism by the amount of muslims they've killed, just the other day i saw an interview with Dan Ellsberg and some asked if he;d been n the military and if so did he ever kill anyone, as if that was a barometer of his patriotism.
I'd be embarassed if I were from his district. People losing their jobs and homes and that shitbag is worried about inane banter, such as middle names and flag lapels.
Does he realize he share's the same as Jack the Ripper?
Andy K @ 13:
Succinct, and to the point
where's dave schuster?? enough already. I want abrams and schuster to have a show together,, it'd be so sick!
Jack: "Well Dan, I'm not following that at all."
Dan: "Well, Jack, that's because you're a moron and a charlatan."
love it!
So he essentially admits he's a bigot?
Way to go, shitfuck. Have fun not being re-elected.
The A-Hole-In-Chief and his puppetmaster wear the flag pins all the time, but they have committed treason, bankrupted the treasury, & subverted the Constitution every chance they get. I think that the country is fed up with "flag pin patriots". F 'em!!!
miss_kitty @ 16:
Ya know, I typed a few paragraphs first, then edited down to...well, assclown.
Glad to see Abrams back in action. Finally someone to play real Hardball besides Olberman.
God, I just watched this again and realized how utterly grating this cockstain's voice is.
YEEEE-HOOOO! WE DON'T WANT ANY AY-RABS IN THE WHITE OFFICE!
Every time I start to think that the American public is smarter than these people think then I remember that about 60 million people voted for Bush in 2004. The first caller on Sam Seder's replacement show for Randi Rhodes today was a woman who because she knew that Obama refused to ware a lapel flag, and refused to put his hand over his heart during the national anthem, and she saw a picture of Obama in a turban just like the terrorist, she felt that he must be a member of Al-Qaeda. I don't trust the American voting public one bit.
He said they bring up all this silly shit about names and pins and pledges just to get on the nerves of the people on the left. Like kids taunting other kids. I call bs on that. I think they do it cause they are just too damned stupid to do anything else. He came to that show knowing this would be the subject of discussion and didn't wear his own damned flag pin. I rest my case.
Andy K @ 13:
Well said.
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Holy shit! What an embarrassment (part deux) for this panty stain! HA!!!!! LOL!!!!!
Ms. Kingston - you do your fellow Repubs proud!
Hey, go easy on Jack! He's been effected by the lead in those Chinese made lapel pins.
Jesus, I've been WAITING for someone to ask this tool where his flag pin is.
Technically true, massively easy IS better than incredibly easy.
However,the fact that a clown like Kingston can actually say this publicly without it immediately been shut down shows that the road to reason on TV & political debate is very, very long indeed.
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Gosh, that Rep Kingston is quite the charmer, a southern gentleman indeed. Hmm... who is it that he reminds me of. Oh yeah, David Duke, former leader of the KKK.
One reason people shouldn't wear flag pins is it goes against the flag code, which says the flag should not adorn clothing except as a patch worn by military (doing this from memory, I don't remember all the exceptions). You're being disrespectful to the flag if you wear as a pin.
Republicans = Lapel Pin Patriots
William @ 15:
Like you said.
Some people want to be leaders, some people want to be obstructionists.
The question asking head was weak!
I would have liked to see someone like George Galloway asking the questions!
So following Jack's logic, it would okay to build a website like, GeorgeWBush.Pedophile.com
Because someone on the right would be upset that someone on the left was saying the President loves to fuck kids. That would be lots of fun wouldn't, Jack?
Hey Dan. It was the national anthem, not the pledge of allegiance. Cripes.
Shame on you for saying yes, senator, I would wear a lapel pin, instead of telling him to go fuck himself.
"I'm not necessarily associating you with the far right." What?? Aren't you listening to your own frikkin interview. Kingston is as big a neocon stooge as there is.
Oh gosh, I saw this last nite.
It was the most RIDICULOUS interview of a LOSER Congressman I have ever seen. If anything, it helped me understand the IDIOTS in the RepubliCON party.
As he says, he is loving it just rattling Democrats because he knows it works.
Shouldn't we be ignored this clown?
This stuff is just stupid republican bashing. More hatred, smart ass smearing and
vitriol. All too typical of republicans. I almost don't even notice such bull these days.
But, about this lapel pin thing...First, how hollow and empty and meaningless this
is. How sad for the soul of the person who thinks they are 'doing something' by
wearing a pin, like the 'yellow ribbons' on the automobile, the 'support the troops'
yard signs, the obligatory 'thank you for your service' muttered at every military
person who appears in public.... it is all so, dare I say, .... crass.
I am glad that Obama freed us from the compulsion to wear a pin or otherwise
engage in empty symbolic gestures and reaffirmed that patriotism can be
expressed with words or (like McCain) deeds of sacrifice.
If you remember...Colbert punked his ass too..Kingston was talking about how religious he is and Colbert asked him to recite the 10 commandments...of course he could't do it..Hard to believe people are this stupid. Reminds me of that old John Prine song.."Your Flag Decal Won't Get You Into Heaven Anymore......""
Handsome Pete @ 33:
[Emphasis added]
Yeah, uhm flag code....Is one being disrepectful to the flag or the code? Suppose someone is completely unaware of the flag code, and believes they're honoring the flag by wearing a pin. If the intent is to honor, then, well, there's no disrespect.
IMO, the autors of the flag code are pompous authoritarians. And they disrespect the Constitution by attempting to stifle the freedom of expression guaranteed under the 1st Amendment. And there's probably someone out there who'd like to limit my right to wear my 1st Amendment propellered-beanie.
Banter?
Sort of like, "If you have a Southern accent, you're a racist."
Hey, don't get all agita, it's just banter.
Typical southern bottomfeeder he can't get his head out of the shit long enough to see what he is even doing. What an ignorant electorate they have down there in that great state , even they should be embarrassed about this blithering idiot...
"Everyone in a public office is wearing one and then this guy comes along and doesn't wear one"
Dan should have asked, so are you wearing one because everyone else is or because you are patriotic? And if everyone jumped off a cliff yelling God Bless America, would you?
This isn't highshool, this is elementary school
I Am A Banana @ 12:
The hell they won't. People voted assclown Kingston into office, because he stands for Traditional American Values, including Racism and Jingoism. Logic and good sense have nothing to do with it.
The GOP will find swiftboating more difficult in '08 IF they try to do it on shows like this and Countdown. It's still gonna fly on O'Reilly, H&C, and as tidbits in the nightly news broadcasts.
LOL.
"You're not wearing your pin"
"I don't understand..."
The fucking retards that actually vote for these people should never ever be allowed to vote again. What utter morons.
One of Bill Maher's favorite guest.
Now, talk about an issue that I don't care about - whether or not someone wears a flag pin. Patriotism is like any other attribute (like family values) - actions speak louder than words (or flag pins).
Standing up to a bully. Who'd a thunk it?
Scooter @ 42:
Actually, that was another dumb Georgia congressman named Lynn Westmoreland who couldn't name all ten of the commandments even though he cosponsored a bill to place the Ten Commandments in the House of Representatives and the Senate. He also sponsored a bill where the Ten Commandments could be displayed in courthouses in a historical setting. You probably know Kingston from his many appearances on "Real Time" when he says stupid things time and again. Unfortunately, most of the voting public in both Georgia and next-door neighbor Alabama aren't much smarter than these two dolts. I know because I've lived in both places.
Flag Lapel Pin Definition: An unnecessarily ostentatious demagogic piece of jewelry used by scoundrels to identify themselves to other scoundrels.
Does it also amaze you that it takes a profoundly negative dynamic to unite the GOP: hatred of Obama; hatred of the New York Times, etc. They have no unifying ideals, they hate their representatives for presidential office. This is and has always been their driving force. Democrats are uniting behind positive movement, positive candidates, and a force that advances American society.
Beef Steak @ 37:
In the MSM such brutal honesty would have you unemployed.
He was genuniely incredulous at Kingstons stupidity/hypocrisy but its so transparently phony they can't even hide it anymore.
Kingston: Well Dan, I’m not following that at all.
We don't need any witnesses. Kingston admits he doesn't understand plain english.
Is he retarded, or just stupid?
The GOP can't tell the difference.
Lets face it, when you a pathetic track record 7 years running, what other tactics do you have left to sway the masses...Smear, smear, smear!
And what better person to peddle this crap but Jack (yes I am as stupid as I sound) Kingston.
Kingston has the integrity of a sand castle at high tide.
He's a Repukelicker, ergo a lying hypocrite.
We Georgians should be so proud..to have an IDIOT like this represent our state. He's begging, BEGGING, ney TAUNTING!!, I tell ya', for someone to cream-pie him in public!
Peter G @ 55:
# 389, lol and a good one. ;-}
Catchya later.
The interesting thing is all this jingoistic crap was the whole substance of the repub '04 and '06 campaigns (freedom fries, for god's sake!) and at that time the 'press' took it very seriously. Since it is still what keeps the winger base going, the repubs continue with it but have known, since '06, that it is not working with most people anymore. So, on a larger stage guys like Kingston try not to repudiate themselves (though they have quietly abandoned the lapel pins when not at KKK rallies) by saying that " ...it's just a little banter back and forth..." and it is only the "…left's hyper-sensitivity" that is making a big deal of this and that he really wants to talk about substantive issues. Well, L-f’in’-OL, Really! It is so, so sad that it has taken the ‘press’ 5 years to point out just how absurd this jingoism is. I can easily image this interview taking place in ‘04 and Kingston, wearing a lapel pin the size of Texas, pointing out Abrams lack of patriotism for not displaying one and Abrams weasling that just forgot or it went to the cleaners with his other suit. How the worm turns.
It's funny that the Republicans manage to make these absurd arguments with such a Jesus-lovin' smile on their faces no matter how ridiculous they sound.
Elegantly simple, well-executed.
Stupid ego maniac, so eager to get in front of a camera, couldn't see it coming. HAHAHA!!
This buffoon did the same nonsense on Bill Maher's shoe. Word for word. And guess what, the wingnut didn't have one on that night either! I don't know how Maher didn't nail him on it. Bunch of double talking idiots.
This GOP talk about lapel (pledge) pins reminds me of the facist Douglas C. Neidermeyer in the movie Animal House.
"What's that on your chest mister?.....A pledge pin sir.....A pledge pin! on your uniform!!!!"
What a bunch of crap.
http://resources.bravenet.com/audio_clips/movies_tv/animal_house_-_a_ple...
Proud2bHumble @ 62:
Off to Lousiville KY for an environmental trade convention. When I'm back I shall expect our noble C&Ler's to be batting 500 (McCan'tthinkstraigts that is) Ta
mother fucker.
what grown up in this day and age puts his hand on the heart for a nonbinding pledge of allegiance that includes a phrase to an invisible proxy Daddy? and if someone defends the pledge, then why is the military having such a hard time recruiting dumbasses to go fight for the corporations? shouldn't all these loyal tears-in-their-eyes blue blood douches be protecting the Homeland (nazis have copyrighted that phrase, pay up the royalties, Neocons!)?
To paraphrase John Prine, "your flag lapel pin won't get you into heaven anymore."
What?!? You're not following that, yet go around casting dispersions on Obama for not wearing one. Kingston is such a lying douche bag.
This idiocy is already angering me enough. I "can't wait" to see what the next 9 months is going to be like. Its like America is having a right-wing smear baby!
RueMorgue @ 20:
My god I love the word shitfuck.
Andy K @ 43:
There is another way of looking at this. You could say that someone who honors the flag would respect it enough to learn the flag code. (I don't care, but I wouldn't argue with someone who felt this way)
After all, the point of the criticism is that Obama is not meeting some unprescribed patriotic norm. Therefore, if he is merely following the actual real norm, how can he be criticized?
We should all be so crazy!
I Am A Banana @ 12:
I saw this when it was on and it was hilarious! Who knew Dan Abrams was such a firebrand and calling Mr. Kingston out for being a hypocrite. I wish more of the media would question the self-righteous, pretend-patriotism that so many of the right wing wankers are guilty of. Message to Mr. Kingston: Maybe you should worry about your own job as a congressman instead of commenting on the patriotism of others you know nothing about.
Who does this guy think he is? Rethugs like him live in never, never land.
Didn't life feel more secure when you were a toddler and all the adults around seemed smart to you? As you grow older most of us slowly realize that idiots are running the world. It is quite a shock and is unpleasant.
One thing is for sure: this election is getting very interesting. Each day a new level of ridiculousness is added with the republicans desperately scurrying about spreading their evil rhetoric. Americans (and many others) are not buying anymore.
George looked a little worried and unwell at his press conference today. His facial tics and expressions are certainly telling. I wonder what Cheney is up to these days. Shudder.
If it hasn't already been said, remember that Kingston is the genius who said that people need to get out and work 2, 3 jobs to take care of their families and then when the 5 day Congress work week was put in effect, complained that Democrats don't care about families.
How anyone can vote for this moron is jaw dropping. Go to his site and send him an email about how you feel. It's easy.
Just another example of a misdirection. Guess what? We're all falling for it. On a "political" blog no less.
There are far more worrysome issues to discuss and deal with than who is and who isn't wearing a lapel pin. I thought these issues were for the main stream media to discuss, and the real issues were for the blogs?
I guess were losing the information war after all.
What he's really getting at is, "Look, I'm white, so I don't have to wear my American flag to show that I'm American. We all know that terrorists are colored, and this guy's name even sounds like a terrorist's name, so he has to prove to me and the rest of the God-fearing white folks that he's not in with the enemies and is going to blow up the White House once he gets elected by wearing an American flag on his lapel."
You might expect this kind of rationale from a trailer-trash sister-fucker in some creepy backwater village that remains frozen in the deep Reconstructionist South, but not from an educated Representative of Congress.
Jeez this guy is dumb as a box-o-rocks.
Jethro Tull @ 81:
It's not about the lapel pins- it's about the hypocrisy.
Is this Rick Santorums little brother?
rondo @ 83:
You're giving him too much credit, and insulting rocks.
LOL
That congressman reminds me of a church youth pastor.
I keep expecting him to put his arm on my back and start rubbing it.
Andy K @ 84:
Photoshop a Scarlet-H, for his lapel: "Hypocrite".
Anonymous @ 88:
Here's his lapel pin.
Kingston is challenging Beck as the poster boy for right-wing stupidity. Congrats, numbnuts.
What Kingston meant is he CAN'T follow that at all.
Kingston is a hack, but not even an effective one.
"Kingston: Well Dan, I’m not following that at all."
Hmm...maybe because you're a jack-ass, you stupid idiot!
Bob KASPRZAK hates rethuglicans and wimpocrats @ 85:
He is definitely a big ol' pile of Santorum.
Yeah, Kingston and Westmoreland are a couple of beauties...there are some people in this world that are smart...and some people that are dumb...and some people that just think they're smart - that's what I've come to believe about virtually every Repug Congressmen from Georgia...certainly these two. Ben was right, it wasn't Kingston that got the Big Ten Commandments question from Colbert wrong, it was Westmorland. But it was Kingston that was the first on The Colbert Report when he started his thing about featuring Congressmen around the country. There was a reason Kingston was first. It was because he was the perfect foil for Colbert's humor. It took the RNC a year or more to figure out that Colbert was stretching their legs around their heads before the word went out to stop agreeing to be the show. Apparently, Kingston still doesn't get it...he keeps skinnin' his ignorance on national TV and nobody can stop him. Dumbass peckerwood.
As for the Repugs, they were so stupid they even invited Colbert to host that Washington Press dinner a couple of years ago. They actually thought he was 'one of them'. I suspect that they may be wising up lately in that the reason they're calling off the dogs on the Obama attacks is that he's just too damn smart for them. Every time they pull one of these lameass criticisms out of their asses, Barack just shoves it right back in and rattles it around a bit. I've had, and still have, misgivings about some of Obama's positions, but one thing is for sure, no matter who he's paired against - politician or pundit - he's a hellovalot more clever than they are and they soon find it out.
I don't know what's more annoying, Kingston's hypocrisy
or his voice. Perhaps it's both. What a total piece of shit he is!
If there is anything that is like nails across a chalk board it is Kingston's nasally voice. It's clearly the last refuge right who has their panties in a bunch and it isn't to make liberals mad. It is to talk about anything but what an utter failure their party has turned out to be. When the only they got right in 8 years is the Do Not Call Registry wouldn't you want to talk about the mole on Obama's face or whatever?
WTF are you talking about, Kingston?
For some reason, it "strikes a chord" with the left? It's just banter and you're having fun with it?
See, it's all just a big ol' game to these assholes. Accusing people of being traitors, making up blatant lies, putting innocent people in jail, ruining careers... Golly gee, what fun!
Be honest, Jack-off, it strikes a chord with your own angry base of flag-waving, bible-thumping hatemongers. That's why you do this crap.
He's using it to pin his spincter shut in case he's 'in committee' with Larry Craig.
lol... Indeed.
So Kingston.. Questioning someone's patriotism is just "banter" used to ruffle feathers? I guess patriotism isn't that big a deal then.
RueMorgue @ 20:
You forget he's from Georgia. All the other shitfuck's down there will re-elect him because HE IS a bigot.
bamboozled @ 82:
If KKKingston would have just told Abrams that he left his flag pin on his Klan suit, no one would have questioned him.
mario @ 66:
Smart move by Maher...Let the idiot make a further fool of himself and show just
how bigoted he and his followers are.
He's not wearing enough flair.
I think I'll stick my hand right into your pocket, extract your wallet, and when you ask me WTF I think I'm doing, I'll just blink, smirk, and say, "I don't follow."
That's all you have to do, as a repuglican, to DO ANYTHING YOU WANT. Just do it, and say, "I don't follow that," when you are called on it.
It's working.
piltdown @ 105:
Thank you for the opening!
Flair.
So, let me get this straight... Barack doesn't wear a flag pin made in China (possibly tainted with lead?) and is not patriotic enough (what ever that means)?
....Kingston doesn't wear a flag pin from China, but he in no way should not be considered a patriot?
The differences?
Color of one's skin?,
location of one's representative district? South Vs. North,
Republican vs. Democrat?
Or quite possibly, are they just throwing everything against the wall about Obama trying to see if ANYTHING will stick?
I would agree, if this was swiftboating, but it's not. This is just another lame attempt to make something out of nothing. The actual swiftboating will come later, and will be much, much worse (yet somehow dumber).
The flag pin thing is just so fake.It reminds me of the SS pins in WWII.It`s like it`s part of a uniform for the brain dead.
This Kingston guy;is he the same one who was whining about having to work a five day week once the Dems took over the House after the rethugs had it down to three for the last several yrs.?What a dork!.
Symbolism is good. Flag stamps should appear on letters UPSIDE-DOWN to denote a nation in distress, even a conquered nation, overrun by morons, and a resurgence of Hitler's Germany right here in der "Homeland" (the new word for "America" and "United States"--it should be capitalized).
Clearly, we have an encroaching dress code in the Homeland to go with the new lexicon. EXAMPLE: Americans kept safe in the Homeland: REALLY REALLY GOOD. Americans kept safe off native soil, say, Iraq: OBVIOUSLY UTTERLY WITHOUT SIGNIFICANCE, SYMBOLICALLY SPEAKING.
Oh, I'm just going NUTS here on the left, they have me unable to tell my head from my hind end! I feel so dumb and defeated by the smarter, righter people of the last remaining dregs, the sainted 19%...
Dan said it all. There's nothing else to say.
Sounds like Mr. Kingston needs an ENEMA. Maybe it will help clear his head.
Barack's "explanation" about the flag pin was ANYTHING BUT convoluted. It was exactly the same as my own reason for having put away the flag pin long ago, and we each arrived at identical reasons independently, along with millions of other Americans: the FLAG PIN is a symbol of cheering collusion with Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rice and support for the criminal war in Iraq. The flag pin says "RA RA RA." Most of us are done with that. We might all like to have our flag back, but it's been appropriated as an ugly symbol waving in residential front yards and adorning clothing as a chintzy pin. (Actually, the ones worn by our hypocritical politicos in both parties are probably jeweler-made, expensive pieces, not like the poor little pin I wore.)
We don't need our president to be our cheerleader. We've already had that, and this month, 79% of us reject and denounce him, Yale pom poms and all. ("Cheerleader" was in fact an unfortunate choice of words, there, congressman. LMAO)
Ah Jack a perfect example of most americons .........
Andy K @ 13:
The worst part is, this assclown thinks it's a game, to questions someone's patriotism over whether or not they wear some shitty pin made in China anyway.
I served in the military. I used to fly my flag every national holiday, but with the exception of Memorial Day and Veterans Day, I stopped flying my flag until George Bush is no longer in the White House. I will not wear a flag pin for the same reason. I have more respect for veterans wearing their Honorable Discharge pin than I ever will for these Repugnican flag-pin-pukes because those veterans are the REAL patriots.
I worked with a guy, who was only one in the office to wear an American flag pin on his suit coat. This guy was the biggest phony lying cheat in the company. He thought wearing this pin would help his image.
every time I see bush and his cronies with the pin on their label, I just feel disgusted.
It's not just "banter" as that hillbilly shithead Jack Kingston says. He (and the rest of the RepubliCONS) knows damn well that this kind of shit plays very well with southerners and the senile, nose-picking, drooling members of the American Legion. We have to challenge this shit, because there's an awfully big block of moron-Americans who base their votes specifically on bullshit like this.
Flag protocol to actually be wearing an American flag as a decoration. You have to have a patriotic organization specifically to be exempt. The flag is supposed to be only hung tethered on one side so that it can fly free.
Here is the actual code;
"
The Flag Code is quite specific about where to wear it. Section 8j of the Flag Code [see below] reads:
No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart.
"
>> That ain't you, right wing punditry!
So, while the flag pin and these iron-on patches are a cute little novelties, as long as we want to pretend to be ultra-patriotic, we might as well follow the protocol. And that means; the flag is not to be worn as a decoration, period unless you are one of the groups exempt from this protocol. It is not to be strapped as a decal on the side of a car -- it is supposed to fly free. Get it? Good. Of course, there is no legal penalty for failing to meet these protocols -- much like the real laws the Republicans flout every day. Only, less official.
Section 8d. reads, "The flag should never be used as wearing apparel."
http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagetiq.html
Now let's do something about Walter Reed and perhaps a real military scholarship fund and get these folks out of Iraq. I really could give two cents about a stupid emblem when actual people are having to deal with actual jeopardy. America will only be great, as long as we treat our people good, not march in formation and saluting figureheads and figurines -- that sounds too totalitarian for this Citizen.
Love to just hit this idiot in the face with a water balloon right in the middle of his Nth iteration of the "lapel pin" issue.
Wot eh dick.
I love how this freak thinks that the notion that it strikes a nerve with the left makes it a good issue to push. Missing the point, dick! It's annoying, not an aspect of proper debating skills and you aren't scoring points, the bloody infant.
Let's see how crazy he gets when Obillary is president. Take away all of Kingston's sharp instruments and remove the bathroom doors just in case he really melts down.
Follow me, follow me. Say no more, nudge nudge, wink wink.
http://kingston.house.gov/ContactForm/
Dear Congressman Kingston,
I just finished watching your performance on MSNBC's Live with Dan Abrams where you pushed your hollow accusations about Senator Obama's "patriotism."
Well, Congressman, your definition of "patriotism" is obviously much different than mine. You and many of your Republican colleagues apparenty quantify patriotism by one's level of idolatry towards a piece of cloth. I, on the other hand, quantify it by one's level of respect and service for his or her fellow Americans.
What I found most disturbing is the fact that you regard such slanderous accusations as nothing more than a harmless little game, and you do it because, "for some reason, it strikes a chord with the left." (In other words, it's a bit like repeatedly yanking a little girl's pigtails on the playground, right Jack?)
If you fail to understand how accusing any fellow American of being unpatriotic (and, essentially, siding with the enemy) can possibly be considered offensive and incredibly disrespectful, then I suggest you resign from Congress and hand your seat over to a someone with more common sense.
I'm sure he does not have a yellow ribbon magnet on his limo either....freaken hypocrite.
"cmon Dan Abrams loosen up bro., let the frat boys enjoy their adolescent penis fencing.
After all it's not like we have anything serious to worry about.........phffft!
Instead of a flag pin, Rapepublican Rep. Kingston should wear the stack of thousand dollar bills he received for each of his votes supporting genocide in Iraq.
:headexplode:
Damn Scooter you beat me to it :) Here's the lyrics to the chorus for those too young to remember this from the days of 'Nam
But your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
They're already overcrowded
From your dirty little war.
Now Jesus don't like killin'
No matter what the reason's for,
And your flag decal won't get you
Into Heaven any more.
Barack HUSSEIN Obama.
It's the man's name.
If he doesn't want people to say it, then he should GET IT CHANGED.
The secret of the pin
Isn't flown like a flag
I carry it behind
This little badge
What says...
Bell Boy,
Gotta get running now
Bell Boy
Keep your lip button down
Bell Boy,
how do you feel kingston, running at someones heel
This was not Kingston being punked. This was Kingston being an idiot. On my blog, Buckin' Fig, I have clips of Kingston on Real Time bringing the lapel pin up, being called out on it by a viewer and this Dan Abrams clip above. He had 5 days in between Real Time and Abrams.
framecop @ 129:
Frankly, the fact that you right-wingers mention his middle name every chance you get, just shows how childish and desperate you are. And it's embarrassingly obvious to everyone.
So, this tool has a great idea of patriotism.
What a waste of oxygen.
How many lies per minute was that? He had three in his first sentence. And that voice, it reminds me of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_ioyofP-iA
Jack A-hole Kingston. That's his middle name. Honest.
Handsome Pete @ 33:
Yup. But tell that to all the knuckle heads who've never served in the military. Worst beating I EVER received was when I hung an American flag in my room as a decoration.
Colbert punks Jack Kingston
http://www.comedycentral.com/colbertreport/videos.jhtml?collectionId=135896
something tells me these bullshit tricks aren't going to work this time.
Kingston is a grinning weasel who thinks the hicks in his district are dumb enough to fall for this shit.
Come to think of it, they did vote for him...........nevermind.
Repeatedly saying your opponent's name is a no-no. Politics is advertising, and the first rule of advertising is not to speak the name of your competitor. That's why every product is touted as better than "the leading brand" and every politician refers to their "opponent." The wisdom of the Repubican's new strategy will become evident in November when people go into the booth not knowing who the hell this guy John McCain is and vote for the guy who's name they recognize. I don't feel comfortable putting the future of our country in the hands of a total stranger; I better vote for Barack Hussein Obama, I know him..
I posted about this very thing a few months back when some other sancitmonious asshat started the lapel pin thing. I illustrated it with a photo of Bush on 9/11 in the classroom...NOT WEARING A FREAKIN' LAPEL PIN!
For all of you who feel so strongly that none of this crap is working or is going to make any difference. Thom Hartmann the other day told a story of being in an airport in between flights. He went into a bar to wait. The subject of Obama came up and a man said that he could never vote for Obama because he was a Muslim and took his oath of office on a Koran. Out of the 8 people in the there Thom noticed that most were bobbing their heads up and down in agreement. He said before he left he thinks he convinced a couple of people that the story was false. The Republicans will continue to say it over and over. New allegations will come up along the same lines and will be repeated over and over. At some point people will start to think that there must be something to all of this because there is so much of it. How many people today believe that Al Gore said he invented the Internet? If you think this stuff doesn't work you haven't been paying attention.
RayC is right.... this shit is everywhere and it won't go away.
I don't know what else I can add to this except that Rep Kingston is a good advert for aborting substandard fetuses.
The fact that even one human being voted for him is one too many. Something's seriously wrong with our country when this buffoon has a government job. I'm physically ill just looking at that putz.
Kingston is the definition of a right wing putz. His whole argument is Obama wants to help Americans (with his expensive programs) and yet he is unAmerican. Dubya has done nothing for average Americans except screw them again and again and Kingston would tell you he's a fine American.
That's what is wrong with the Right Wing...they hate America and Americans (they hate us for our freedoms) while they claim to hold the Patriotic high-ground.
If they had any morals or values I would say they should be ashamed of themselves, but you have to know the difference between Right and Wrong before you can be ashamed of your words and actions.
RayC @ 141:
Here's the problem. Those of us who know better need to educate those who spout the BS and those who follow the loudest asshole in the room. No more Mr. or Miss Nice Guy. STAND UP FOR TRUTH AND REASON! And if that doesn't work, a good, swift kick to the weasel's wedding tackle works, too.
Lord Balto @ 143:
All Republican fetuses (feti?) are substandard...it's because they have the genes of their Republican parents (putting them right behind the 8 ball to begin with) but I wouldn't say we should abort all Republican fetuses because they might (just maybe) grow up to be a real American who helps make the world a better place.
Instead I say we should wait until their about 16 (ok 18 just before the first time they vote) and see if they are a decent human being or if they should be retroactively aborted.
Mike @ 116:
Make a statement on July 4th and fly your flag upside down.
You cannot be believed, Meletus, even, I think, by yourself.
odanny @ 148:
An upside down flag is a sign of distress. Perfect for a situation like this.
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