I like the "not afraid" theme, given the last eight years.

loved it! very powerful!

Sorry this is long but this is an open thread so I wanted to get some sane people to take a look at something I received. This latest piece of Rovian slime showed up in my email inbox. I have no idea where it originated, but I’m assuming it’s some propaganda started by the McCain campaign or the Swift Boaters. It will make lightning rounds around the internet I’m sure. Who wants to help debunk this trash?

Let me repeat: These are not my words….this email was sent to me. For some reason, it didn’t end up in my junk mail.

=========================================================

“Wish I knew who Senator Bob is…I like the way he thinks…

After long and serious thought, I have decided to endorse Senator John McCain for President. I have always voted for the person and have not voted for anyone because some political party was telling me who I should vote for.

We all know the choices by now and, that said, I do believe that the process of selecting a chief executive is deeply flawed. The words “money” and “special intersts” come to mind, among many others.

Here’s the way I see it:

Barack Obama, you are a fine public speaker. You are also an extremely liberal Senator from the State of Illinois, which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a child of that system.

You have finally insulted my intelligence far beyond my capacity to tolerate your insults. It has nothing at all to do with your skin color. As a matter of fact, it would b e so COOL to finally have an African-American for President. What a great statement that would be to the entire world that we are indeed the greatest country on earth!

But, unfortunately, General Colin Powell is not running, and YOU are NOT the man for this job !

Barack baby, you want me to believe that you have never heard the sermons of your own pastor, the Right Reverend “God Damn America” Jeremiah Wright. It is a matter of record that this has been your church for over 20 years. It is a matter of record that you were married there by this very pastor, and that your children were baptized there.

The good Reverend saw fit to visit Khadafy in Libya with you and to give a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, of all people.

We have all now seen excerpts of his sermons all over the airwaves by now. And you have publicly stated that this man IS your “spiritual mentor”.

BUT, your pastor is NOT the reason I am NOT voting for you. His words were disturbing enough, but it is your own HUGE church congregation, seen jumping, hooting and howling to his words in the background that disturb me the most. And please don’t tell me you attended church there and never once heard a “discouraging word” in the 20 years you atte nded there. Don’t tell me, that in addition to the good reverend, that you are now not having anything to do with all those other people seen hooting and howling out in the audience in the background of his fiery tirades.

Even Oprah Winfrey got disgusted and walked out. I am no Oprah fan, but still she did the right thing.

Now YOU look me in the eye and ask me to believe that you never heard such language in all the years you attended there ! This is like me telling you that I attended dozens of Klan rallys and never once heard the “N” word. Yep. And Bill Clinton “did not inhale”.

Yes, Mr. Obama, we all have friends who have said stupid things that embarrassed us, but NOW you have asked me to believe something that is so incredibly stupid that you are telling me that I am just stupid enough to believe you. THAT is the main reason that I will never vote fo r you. I am deeply sorry, that in a county teeming with enormously talented African Americans who would make a good President, that the political system has chosen YOU. You are a pathetic and plastic excuse for an American, who will not even salute the Flag during the Pledge of Allegiance. God forbid you ever get near the Oval Office.

Now, did I mention Bill Clinton ?

AH YES ! This brings us to MRS. WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, who this candidate really is, in spite of all the other names she may care to call herself. This “feminist” piece of work of course would like to be referred to as MS. and we all know who wears the pant suit in that family.

MS. Clinton, (sugar), it is just as depressing to realize that there are dozens of women who would also make great Presidents. But, fortunately, the horrible state of the selection process has selected YOU. Ms. Cl inton, I’m sorry, but you could not tell the truth if we waterboarded your worthless ass !

Still you play the role of the “embarrassed but dignified noble wife”. What utter malarky ! I am not voting for you for a world of reasons, but the main one is the same as my not voting for Senator Obama. You persistently insult my intelligence. It COULD be conceivably possible that you did not know about Monica Lewinsky, extremely remote, but possible if we stretch our imaginations a bit. But you turn around and then ask me to believe that you also did not know about Paula Jones and the legion of other women who were chewed up and spit out by your lecherous excuse for a husband. Puleese turn off this broken record !!!

But let’s set aside your hubby’s flagrant pecadillos. The real reason I will never vote for you is that I don’t think the country can survive EIGHT MORE YEARS of Whitewater, Travelgate, Filega te, Sandy Berger stuffing his socks with classified intelligence, Janet Reno’s goon squad, and the myriad other corruptions that seem to stick to you like your ugly face. So our former President can’t keep his dick in his pants. The REAL issue is that he committed perjury under oath when he lied about it and the pathetically-attempted coverup that followed.

Like you, he is totally incapable of telling the truth. He could not do it if you tortured him, and in voting for you, we would get the BOTH of you, all over again. The same folks who could have taken out Osama Bin Laden over 3,000 dead Americans ago !

And please stop telling me that you have “8 years of experience” to lead us. You were the freakin’ first lady already, not the Commander in Chief. Jeez ! The sum of your “experience” is that of the most worrisome and incompetent meddling in the history of the White House. You even cursed your pit iful staff and the Secret Service agents who were and still are unfortunately charged with risking their lives to protect your worthless, thieving hide, and all at the expense of other people who have to work for a living.

Your single pathetic platform is to finance the illegal drugs, alcoholism and bad habits of the very lowest and most irresponsible freeloaders in America and to then “garnish the wages” (your own words) of every law-abiding and hard-working American to pay for it. This disaster you refer to as “Universal Health Care”. Where have you been the last 30 years ? Did you not see that socialism is a failure wherever it has been tried ? Did you not notice that the Soviet Union has collapsed since it gave no reward to those who worked the hardest for the fruits of their own labors to pay for those who will not ??

It is interesting to see all the dead bodies that you and your hubby have left in your wake. Suicides, mysterious deaths, cover-ups that make Richard Nixon look like a rank amateur. The utter contempt and unbelievable arrogance of some of your strongest supporters, most notably the recently resigned and disgraced Governor Eliot Spitzer, the epitome of hypocritical and malevolent arrogance gone wild, one of your most ardent, wealthy and powerful political supporters. A man the news media refuses to admit IS a “super delegate” in your own political machine, a fine example of your own “adopted” state of New York. No wonder you moved there to run for Senator ! The environment there is perfect for the likes of you !

Yes, I would vote for a woman, but I will NOT vote for YOU !

Which leaves us with Senator John McCain.

John, you are a flawed man. You ar e a bit old, a bit looney, and you have a notoriously bad temper. This perfectly qualifies you, in my humble opinion, to lead us for the next eight years. I WANT your trembling hand on the nuclear button.

Think about it.

We have Kim Jong IL, Chavez and Ahmadenijad all running around like lunatics, threatening America and threatening to plunge the world into nuclear Armageddon. We have Putin and the Chinese blustering and rattling their sabres at us. I want John McCain in the Oval Office and I want him to be really pissed off at all these other nut jobs around the planet.

John, once you are elected, I want you to go into the Oval Office and throw one of your perfect FITS. Jump up and down and throw something through a plate glass window. Rip the drapes down and foam at the mouth a bit. And I want the whole thing on camera so that Ahmadinejad can see it. I want ALL of these “world leaders” to lay awake at night and to break out in a cold sweat every time they think of messing with the United States of America.

I want the nuclear button sitting right next to the alarm clock on your night stand. I want pictures of this to be sent to Iran, Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, and those other assholes in the sheets, the Saudis.

On the domestic front, poor John did try and reach across the aisle to the opposition in a desperate effort to compromise and to get the Congress to do something. You may not agree with his efforts, but at least he TRIED. For all his efforts, all he got handed to him was his head in a basket. The liberals are pissed at him and the conservatives are pissed at him. Just my kinda guy.

I predict that John will select Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate. Good choice. I want a JEW w hose memory of the Holocaust is still fresh in his mind and who is royally pissed off at all of these towel-headed morons in the Middle East to be the next in line if something should happen to John. Shalom, Vice President Joe. One heartbeat from the Oval Office.

Finally. John McCain knows on a most personal level what it is to suffer horrible torture for years and to see others die, right in front of you, for their love of America. When you ask him about it, he will tell you that what he did was “nothing special”. Even more incredibly, he states that ANY American who truly loves his country would do exactly the same as he did in that situation. You and I will have a hard time believing that, but the real point is that John McCain believes that about the “average American”, and that, dear friends and neighbors, is why I will cast my one poor ballot for on election day for John McCain — warts and all.

God Bless America,
Senator Bob"
===================================================

That commercial was lame by comparison to the others. There are some really good ones I voted on yesterday. I think I only gave one of the 10 I watched 5 stars all across

Ooh! Ooh! This commercial is very close to something I proposed to the Dean campaign back when, especially w/ a bunch of very different sorts of Americans saying "I am Howard Dean." So naturally, I think it's a great concept for Obama, too.

After spending about an hour voting on these, I had to give these talking head/finish each other's sentence spots, one "star" for originality. It seemed like about 50% of them used that method.

Does everyone we listen to have to be mixed race now?

Hillary’s PA Win May Lead to Historic Compromise on ‘Co-Presidency’

I guess it's forced political advertising.

I hate that every time I hit the refresh tab it starts all over again!

Gas is now being stolen. Some Texans don't like the border fence, either.

solid @ 6:

Sorry this is long but this is an open thread so I wanted to get some sane people to take a look at something I received. This latest piece of Rovian slime showed up in my email inbox. I have no idea where it originated, but I’m assuming it’s some propaganda started by the McCain campaign or the Swift Boaters. It will make lightning rounds around the internet I’m sure. Who wants to help debunk this trash?

Let me repeat: These are not my words….this email was sent to me. For some reason, it didn’t end up in my junk mail.

=========================================================

“Wish I knew who Senator Bob is…I like the way he thinks…

After long and serious thought, I have decided to endorse Senator John McCain for President. I have always voted for the person and have not voted for anyone because some political party was telling me who I should vote for.

We all know the choices by now and, that said, I do believe that the process of selecting a chief executive is deeply flawed. The words “money” and “special intersts” come to mind, among many others.

Here’s the way I see it:

Barack Obama, you are a fine public speaker. You are also an extremely liberal Senator from the State of Illinois, which has a long and rich history of political corruption of the first magnitude. You are indeed a child of that system.

You have finally insulted my intelligence far beyond my capacity to tolerate your insults. It has nothing at all to do with your skin color. As a matter of fact, it would b e so COOL to finally have an African-American for President. What a great statement that would be to the entire world that we are indeed the greatest country on earth!

But, unfortunately, General Colin Powell is not running, and YOU are NOT the man for this job !

Barack baby, you want me to believe that you have never heard the sermons of your own pastor, the Right Reverend “God Damn America” Jeremiah Wright. It is a matter of record that this has been your church for over 20 years. It is a matter of record that you were married there by this very pastor, and that your children were baptized there.

The good Reverend saw fit to visit Khadafy in Libya with you and to give a lifetime achievement award to Louis Farrakhan, of all people.

We have all now seen excerpts of his sermons all over the airwaves by now. And you have publicly stated that this man IS your “spiritual mentor”.

BUT, your pastor is NOT the reason I am NOT voting for you. His words were disturbing enough, but it is your own HUGE church congregation, seen jumping, hooting and howling to his words in the background that disturb me the most. And please don’t tell me you attended church there and never once heard a “discouraging word” in the 20 years you atte nded there. Don’t tell me, that in addition to the good reverend, that you are now not having anything to do with all those other people seen hooting and howling out in the audience in the background of his fiery tirades.

Even Oprah Winfrey got disgusted and walked out. I am no Oprah fan, but still she did the right thing.

Now YOU look me in the eye and ask me to believe that you never heard such language in all the years you attended there ! This is like me telling you that I attended dozens of Klan rallys and never once heard the “N” word. Yep. And Bill Clinton “did not inhale”.

Yes, Mr. Obama, we all have friends who have said stupid things that embarrassed us, but NOW you have asked me to believe something that is so incredibly stupid that you are telling me that I am just stupid enough to believe you. THAT is the main reason that I will never vote fo r you. I am deeply sorry, that in a county teeming with enormously talented African Americans who would make a good President, that the political system has chosen YOU. You are a pathetic and plastic excuse for an American, who will not even salute the Flag during the Pledge of Allegiance. God forbid you ever get near the Oval Office.

Now, did I mention Bill Clinton ?

AH YES ! This brings us to MRS. WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON, who this candidate really is, in spite of all the other names she may care to call herself. This “feminist” piece of work of course would like to be referred to as MS. and we all know who wears the pant suit in that family.

MS. Clinton, (sugar), it is just as depressing to realize that there are dozens of women who would also make great Presidents. But, fortunately, the horrible state of the selection process has selected YOU. Ms. Cl inton, I’m sorry, but you could not tell the truth if we waterboarded your worthless ass !

Still you play the role of the “embarrassed but dignified noble wife”. What utter malarky ! I am not voting for you for a world of reasons, but the main one is the same as my not voting for Senator Obama. You persistently insult my intelligence. It COULD be conceivably possible that you did not know about Monica Lewinsky, extremely remote, but possible if we stretch our imaginations a bit. But you turn around and then ask me to believe that you also did not know about Paula Jones and the legion of other women who were chewed up and spit out by your lecherous excuse for a husband. Puleese turn off this broken record !!!

But let’s set aside your hubby’s flagrant pecadillos. The real reason I will never vote for you is that I don’t think the country can survive EIGHT MORE YEARS of Whitewater, Travelgate, Filega te, Sandy Berger stuffing his socks with classified intelligence, Janet Reno’s goon squad, and the myriad other corruptions that seem to stick to you like your ugly face. So our former President can’t keep his dick in his pants. The REAL issue is that he committed perjury under oath when he lied about it and the pathetically-attempted coverup that followed.

Like you, he is totally incapable of telling the truth. He could not do it if you tortured him, and in voting for you, we would get the BOTH of you, all over again. The same folks who could have taken out Osama Bin Laden over 3,000 dead Americans ago !

And please stop telling me that you have “8 years of experience” to lead us. You were the freakin’ first lady already, not the Commander in Chief. Jeez ! The sum of your “experience” is that of the most worrisome and incompetent meddling in the history of the White House. You even cursed your pit iful staff and the Secret Service agents who were and still are unfortunately charged with risking their lives to protect your worthless, thieving hide, and all at the expense of other people who have to work for a living.

Your single pathetic platform is to finance the illegal drugs, alcoholism and bad habits of the very lowest and most irresponsible freeloaders in America and to then “garnish the wages” (your own words) of every law-abiding and hard-working American to pay for it. This disaster you refer to as “Universal Health Care”. Where have you been the last 30 years ? Did you not see that socialism is a failure wherever it has been tried ? Did you not notice that the Soviet Union has collapsed since it gave no reward to those who worked the hardest for the fruits of their own labors to pay for those who will not ??

It is interesting to see all the dead bodies that you and your hubby have left in your wake. Suicides, mysterious deaths, cover-ups that make Richard Nixon look like a rank amateur. The utter contempt and unbelievable arrogance of some of your strongest supporters, most notably the recently resigned and disgraced Governor Eliot Spitzer, the epitome of hypocritical and malevolent arrogance gone wild, one of your most ardent, wealthy and powerful political supporters. A man the news media refuses to admit IS a “super delegate” in your own political machine, a fine example of your own “adopted” state of New York. No wonder you moved there to run for Senator ! The environment there is perfect for the likes of you !

Yes, I would vote for a woman, but I will NOT vote for YOU !

Which leaves us with Senator John McCain.

John, you are a flawed man. You ar e a bit old, a bit looney, and you have a notoriously bad temper. This perfectly qualifies you, in my humble opinion, to lead us for the next eight years. I WANT your trembling hand on the nuclear button.

Think about it.

We have Kim Jong IL, Chavez and Ahmadenijad all running around like lunatics, threatening America and threatening to plunge the world into nuclear Armageddon. We have Putin and the Chinese blustering and rattling their sabres at us. I want John McCain in the Oval Office and I want him to be really pissed off at all these other nut jobs around the planet.

John, once you are elected, I want you to go into the Oval Office and throw one of your perfect FITS. Jump up and down and throw something through a plate glass window. Rip the drapes down and foam at the mouth a bit. And I want the whole thing on camera so that Ahmadinejad can see it. I want ALL of these “world leaders” to lay awake at night and to break out in a cold sweat every time they think of messing with the United States of America.

I want the nuclear button sitting right next to the alarm clock on your night stand. I want pictures of this to be sent to Iran, Russia, China, Venezuela, Cuba, Libya, Syria, Pakistan, and those other assholes in the sheets, the Saudis.

On the domestic front, poor John did try and reach across the aisle to the opposition in a desperate effort to compromise and to get the Congress to do something. You may not agree with his efforts, but at least he TRIED. For all his efforts, all he got handed to him was his head in a basket. The liberals are pissed at him and the conservatives are pissed at him. Just my kinda guy.

I predict that John will select Senator Joe Lieberman as his running mate. Good choice. I want a JEW w hose memory of the Holocaust is still fresh in his mind and who is royally pissed off at all of these towel-headed morons in the Middle East to be the next in line if something should happen to John. Shalom, Vice President Joe. One heartbeat from the Oval Office.

Finally. John McCain knows on a most personal level what it is to suffer horrible torture for years and to see others die, right in front of you, for their love of America. When you ask him about it, he will tell you that what he did was “nothing special”. Even more incredibly, he states that ANY American who truly loves his country would do exactly the same as he did in that situation. You and I will have a hard time believing that, but the real point is that John McCain believes that about the “average American”, and that, dear friends and neighbors, is why I will cast my one poor ballot for on election day for John McCain — warts and all.

God Bless America,
Senator Bob"
===================================================

sounds rovian. bet rove himself votes for obama in nov., give me a couple of more months to break him.

no one's voting mccain, 'cept the kind of kids who like smashing paper mache pinatas.

Paul's Bunions @ 20:

I hate that every time I hit the refresh tab it starts all over again!

turn off the flucking sound!

rustedspear @ 21:

THIS AD IS STUPID. DOES NOT DO OBAMA ANY FAVORS.

HE NEEDS TO ADDRESS ISSUES FAKE AS THEY ARE ABOUT HIS CHARACTER STRENGTH
AND HIS ABILITY TO LEAD.

THIS HIPPIE ONE NATION CRAP DOES NOT HELP HIM.

HIS ADS SHOULD SAY, STRENGTH AND JUDGMENT. THIS ONE DOES NOT.

Did you catch his speech tonight?

I am Snowball, I am legion. I will vote against McCain no matter who the Democratic nominee.

"No endorsement of this ad is implied" From a site that only has Obama ads. Just a teensy bit disingenuous bluegal. It is a good ad though.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE give me an option to mute this advertisement, or shut it the fuck off, when I come to your website!

As an Obama supporter, I don't care for this ad at all - whether I can turn it off or not.

It expresses far too much of a tone of piety.

tyree at 73 @ 26:

Paul's Bunions @ 20:

I hate that every time I hit the refresh tab it starts all over again!

turn off the flucking sound!

I'm using the sound for another program!

First of all, that video is annoying as hell.

EliteLemming @ 28:

Did you catch his speech tonight?

Sorry about earlier. My dull, cranky mind could not comprehend a simple joke.

But anyway, I was going to write something about the speech in the PA section but then it closed so I'll just copy/paste.

"Yeah, there's something to it. He's one of the few people who I can listen to and pay attention to for an hour at a time. Maybe I'm just too sentimental and his hopeful outlook rings too strongly with me, but all the same it just makes me sit back and wonder: If we look back, hell, thirty years racial discrimination was still (and is still) a dominant part of society. To hear not how far we've come, as we still have a long way to go, but rather how close we are (as he makes it sound--that's one of the things I enjoy about his speaking), is a great thing.

Not that he's the perfect candidate, far from it, but his and my policy views click more than Hillary's. And to package that all together with an almost spell-bounding aura seals the deal for me.

Also, one of the things that I loved once finding C&L was being able to discover Republican tactics/slip-ups on a day-to-day basis. To see those employed by a fellow Democrat is nothing new (hey, it's politics), it's simply disheartening."

So the people of Pennsylvania want their children and grandchildren to die in one of Gampy McCain's forthcoming wars?

Interesting.

Ash"Hussy"Williams @ 41:

Paul's Bunions @ 38:

tyree at 73 @ 26:

Paul's Bunions @ 20:
turn off the flucking sound!

I'm using the sound for another program!

Same here.

I can do more than one thing at a time, it's called mutitasking!

In case you haven't heard:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7361446.stm

An Israeli spy, Ben-Ami Kadish, has been providing Israel with information about nuclear weapons, fighter jets and missiles since the 1980s. In March of 2008 he was still making phone calls to his handlers in Israel.

"Those charges stem from a conversation in which Kadish was allegedly told by the Israeli contact to lie to U.S. law enforcement agents and tell them that he didn't remember many of the relevant details. A day later, Kadish lied to FBI agents about his communications with the Israeli worker, the complaint said.

According to U.S. law enforcement officials and various documents, Kadish got in touch with his Israeli contact after Israel agreed in 2004 to secretly acknowledge to American officials that Pollard was not an isolated case, thereby confirming longtime American suspicions that Pollard was not the only American spy working for Israel."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/977076.html

Well it seems that everyone was hoping that the issue would be settled by now and the ghastly problem of Michigan and Florida could be ignored. Now it appears we are all headed for a brokered convention and that luxury has vanished. Suggestions anyone?

Snowball @ 30:

I am Snowball, I am legion. I will vote against McCain no matter who the Democratic nominee.

I am Republican, I will vote against McCain no matter who the Democratic nominee.

When the Freaky Neo-cons are gone then I will go back to hating the Democrats.

Kyle @ 49:

Peter G @ 48:

Well it seems that everyone was hoping that the issue would be settled by now and the ghastly problem of Michigan and Florida could be ignored. Now it appears we are all headed for a brokered convention and that luxury has vanished. Suggestions anyone?

Thank the Clintonistas for President Grampa Simpson.

Dreadful people aren't they. Imagine voting for the person they think would be the best choice for president.

Kyle @ 42:

So the people of Pennsylvania want their children and grandchildren to die in one of Gampy McCain's forthcoming wars?

Interesting.

EchoZulu @ 46:

In case you haven't heard:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7361446.stm

An Israeli spy, Ben-Ami Kadish, has been providing Israel with information about nuclear weapons, fighter jets and missiles since the 1980s. In March of 2008 he was still making phone calls to his handlers in Israel.

"Those charges stem from a conversation in which Kadish was allegedly told by the Israeli contact to lie to U.S. law enforcement agents and tell them that he didn't remember many of the relevant details. A day later, Kadish lied to FBI agents about his communications with the Israeli worker, the complaint said.

According to U.S. law enforcement officials and various documents, Kadish got in touch with his Israeli contact after Israel agreed in 2004 to secretly acknowledge to American officials that Pollard was not an isolated case, thereby confirming longtime American suspicions that Pollard was not the only American spy working for Israel."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/977076.html

Kyle @ 42:

So the people of Pennsylvania want their children and grandchildren to die in one of Gampy McCain's forthcoming wars?

Interesting.

rothschild control of worldwoide economy, fulfillment of john hagee end-time prophecies.

very convenient marriage, don't you think?

and my money's on eternal ed rendell damnation....

Peter G @ 48:

Well it seems that everyone was hoping that the issue would be settled by now and the ghastly problem of Michigan and Florida could be ignored. Now it appears we are all headed for a brokered convention and that luxury has vanished. Suggestions anyone?

I suggest we take a break from all of the BS that the media manipulates us and apparently the voters of Pennsylvania with. Either that or get an investigation of the Diebold scanners they used. I heard that they were already having problems early this morning. I'm not sure if it was voting machines or scanners.

singe @ 55:

New York, New Jersey California, Massachusetts, Florida, Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Texas....

That's pretty good!

Can you name their capitals?

Ever notice that John McCain looks a lot like Col. Tigh from the new battlestar galactica series. Col. Tigh turned out to be one of the cylons. I'm thinking that Hillary is the 5th cylon.

EliteLemming @ 59:

Um... site monitor, if hearing (and/or seeing) a plug for Sen. Obama every time this post reloads isn't an endorsement, it's involuntary subliminal messaging.

You will vote for Barrack Obama...You will vote for change...you will vote for hope...we need $25...write us a check and put your money where your future is...

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 62:

EliteLemming @ 59:

Um... site monitor, if hearing (and/or seeing) a plug for Sen. Obama every time this post reloads isn't an endorsement, it's involuntary subliminal messaging.

You will vote for Barrack Obama...You will vote for change...you will vote for hope...we need $25...write us a check and put your money where your future is...

LOL

*strained* can't donate... must get food... must buy gas...

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 62:

EliteLemming @ 59:

Um... site monitor, if hearing (and/or seeing) a plug for Sen. Obama every time this post reloads isn't an endorsement, it's involuntary subliminal messaging.

You will vote for Barrack Obama...You will vote for change...you will vote for hope...we need $25...write us a check and put your money where your future is...

Not a bad Idea when you think about it. LOL

i liked all the ads that had multiple people saying "my name is barack obama" its a great hook, because it makes us all one in this stuggle

i just wish someone had made a vid saying..."my name is barack hussein obama"

so has the exit polling come out in pa yet comparing urban to rural???

EliteLemming @ 64:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 62:

EliteLemming @ 59:

Um... site monitor, if hearing (and/or seeing) a plug for Sen. Obama every time this post reloads isn't an endorsement, it's involuntary subliminal messaging.

You will vote for Barrack Obama...You will vote for change...you will vote for hope...we need $25...write us a check and put your money where your future is...

LOL

*strained* can't donate... must get food... must buy gas...

Give money to a politician. Oh that's a good one. Hmmmm let me dig though my pockets. Piece of lint...Cigarette lighter... Fake phone number the chick from the coffee stand gave me... Nickel and 2 pennies... Let me dig a little deeper... Oh that feels kinda good... What was I looking for?

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Billy @ 13:

Shame on C&L for forcing this on people.

Let me click on the goddamned thing if I want to see it!!

Just avert your gaze like I did.

No thanks. Those who'd like to hose it via a hosts file can add these -

127.0.0.1 s3.amazonaws.com
127.0.0.1 www.obamain30seconds.org

chuck @ 72:

EliteLemming @ 64:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 62:

EliteLemming @ 59:

You will vote for Barrack Obama...You will vote for change...you will vote for hope...we need $25...write us a check and put your money where your future is...

LOL

*strained* can't donate... must get food... must buy gas...

Give money to a politician. Oh that's a good one. Hmmmm let me dig though my pockets. Piece of lint...Cigarette lighter... Fake phone number the chick from the coffee stand gave me... Nickel and 2 pennies... Let me dig a little deeper... Oh that feels kinda good... What was I looking for?

Can I borrow that lighter, bro?

L.A. Confidential @ 17:

Billy @ 13:

Shame on C&L for forcing this on people.

Let me click on the goddamned thing if I want to see it!!

Just avert your gaze like I did.

No thanks. I just filtered the offending sites.
The first is the source of the video and the
second tried to set a cookie saying that you
have seen it:

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we got a tough fight gang.

it's like urkel vs. an army of vampires.

except obama's a lot cooler than urkel, and these vampires are scared shitless on a day to day basis because they read these threads and they know we're on to them.

onward, amigos! pile on!!

Peter G @ 48:

Well it seems that everyone was hoping that the issue would be settled by now and the ghastly problem of Michigan and Florida could be ignored. Now it appears we are all headed for a brokered convention and that luxury has vanished. Suggestions anyone?

Yes. Please stop pretending you care one way or the other about the voters in Michigan or Florida. Even Hillary never made a peep until after she thought it might be to her advantage. Now, of course, she has deep feelings about their disenfranchisement. How genuine.

Shit there it goes ag...

Yes master, believe in hope master.

Yes master, yes we can master.

fiver @ 82:

Peter G @ 48:

Well it seems that everyone was hoping that the issue would be settled by now and the ghastly problem of Michigan and Florida could be ignored. Now it appears we are all headed for a brokered convention and that luxury has vanished. Suggestions anyone?

Yes. Please stop pretending you care one way or the other about the voters in Michigan or Florida. Even Hillary never made a peep until after she thought it might be to her advantage. Now, of course, she has deep feelings about their disenfranchisement. How genuine.

Actually I care more about winning the election. Let's hear your solution.

I am going to become apolitical and dedicate my life to selling volume control knobs to the less audacious.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 85:

I have this volume control knob on my PC. It works quite well. I recomend them.

A non-believer, persecute, kill the heretic!

Pete&Pete @ 91:

Ok xoites, but politics can be sensitive and people check this stuff at work in privacy not expecting audio unless they hit "Play". Not everyone is sitting in their underwear at home reading this stuff, its just a bad bad thing for a website to do.

Ok, let me get into my underwear.

Paul's Bunions @ 89:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 85:

I have this volume control knob on my PC. It works quite well. I recomend them.

What part of multi-tasking don't you get?

To you my friend i highly recommend The Art of Loving by Eric Fromm who argued quite eloquently about the need to do one thing at a time and to do it well. (I got half of that down pat!)

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 94:

Paul's Bunions @ 89:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 85:

I have this volume control knob on my PC. It works quite well. I recomend them.

What part of multi-tasking don't you get?

To you my friend i highly recommend The Art of Loving by Eric Fromm who argued quite eloquently about the need to do one thing at a time and to do it well. (I got half of that down pat!)

So you can't walk and chew gum at the same time? HAHAHA

chuck @ 72:

EliteLemming @ 64:

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 62:

EliteLemming @ 59:

You will vote for Barrack Obama...You will vote for change...you will vote for hope...we need $25...write us a check and put your money where your future is...

LOL

*strained* can't donate... must get food... must buy gas...

Give money to a politician. Oh that's a good one. Hmmmm let me dig though my pockets. Piece of lint...Cigarette lighter... Fake phone number the chick from the coffee stand gave me... Nickel and 2 pennies... Let me dig a little deeper... Oh that feels kinda good... What was I looking for?

pack of trojans?

(BLEACH!)

Well i think i meant Blech! or how ever it was Charles Shultz spelled it.

xoites (Bitter Before Country Was Cool) defends Constitution @ 101:

I reached into my pocket the other day and felt something good too.

My Passport.

All i need now is a work visa.

Nice! Never thought I'd say it, but looks like there's more fruit to pick in Mexico than here. Arriba!

A gathering of some sort?

;-}

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 104:

A gathering of some sort?

;-}

A red hat meeting in fact. Try the wine.

Wait for it...

Peter G @ 86:

fiver @ 82:

Peter G @ 48:

Well it seems that everyone was hoping that the issue would be settled by now and the ghastly problem of Michigan and Florida could be ignored. Now it appears we are all headed for a brokered convention and that luxury has vanished. Suggestions anyone?

Yes. Please stop pretending you care one way or the other about the voters in Michigan or Florida. Even Hillary never made a peep until after she thought it might be to her advantage. Now, of course, she has deep feelings about their disenfranchisement. How genuine.

Actually I care more about winning the election. Let's hear your solution.

Not really sure why a "solution" is necessary except to bolster the Clinton camp's fading dream. If there is some big groundswell of Florida and Michigan voters lining up behind McCain, it's strange that nobody but Clinton supporters have even mentioned it.

Moreover, if Clinton had a problem with the national party's stance on these early primaries, why didn't she mention it at the time?

odanny @ 8:

That commercial was lame by comparison to the others. There are some really good ones I voted on yesterday. I think I only gave one of the 10 I watched 5 stars all across

I agree. Lame. Don't care for it one bit. Too much of a koom-bai-aah feel to it.

The repukes are going to be off the charts viscious this year. Why? Because they know their bait-and-switch of wedge issues has been sniffed out by the people, and their real aristocratic agenda identified. The dems are going to have to fight back effectively, and this ad doesn't cut-it on that level.

They need to stay with attack ads exposing GOP bullshit, lies, and revisionism. They need the pitbulls attacking Karl Roves crotch type ads.

Thank you C&L for turning off the autoplay!

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 115:

EliteLemming @ 113:

Well fuck it, if everybody's takin' off, I'm takin' a vitamin B shot and spendin' some quality time in the shower.

How'd you know that's what we're all doin? ....Oh, wait... well, come on then.
;-}

Are you guys playin' wifout me? *sniff, sob*

not much goin' on now

fiver @ 110:

Peter G @ 86:

fiver @ 82:

Peter G @ 48:

Yes. Please stop pretending you care one way or the other about the voters in Michigan or Florida. Even Hillary never made a peep until after she thought it might be to her advantage. Now, of course, she has deep feelings about their disenfranchisement. How genuine.

Actually I care more about winning the election. Let's hear your solution.

Not really sure why a "solution" is necessary except to bolster the Clinton camp's fading dream. If there is some big groundswell of Florida and Michigan voters lining up behind McCain, it's strange that nobody but Clinton supporters have even mentioned it.

Moreover, if Clinton had a problem with the national party's stance on these early primaries, why didn't she mention it at the time?

The fact that no one foresaw the consequences of not seating those delegates doesn't mean it isn't a giant problem. They can't be seated as they stand because Obama didn't get a fair shot at them and they can't be ignored because neither the MSM nor the Republicans will allow it. Senator Obama has not made an issue of this (rightly so) because it was hoped that the issue would be resolved before now. If he takes the position at the convention that they shouldn't be seated or that their votes should be allocated then he is going to be in the ludicrous position of having to explain to a lot of people why their primary vote shouldn't count but they should vote for him in the election. The Republicans will have a field day with this. They won't need any asinine distraction issues. He has momentum and cash. If there was a do over in those states he'd have a decent shot at those delegates and a clean launch for the election. The same would apply to HRC and I make no apology for thinking highly of both candidates. If the super delegates make the choice there will be sufficient sour grapes from one camp or another to lose this election. I'm keeping my eyes on the prize. If the elephant in the room isn't dealt with fairly he's going to sit on us.

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 117:

EliteLemming @ 116:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 115:

EliteLemming @ 113:
How'd you know that's what we're all doin? ....Oh, wait... well, come on then.
;-}

Are you guys playin' wifout me? *sniff, sob*

Just came over late at PtG's invite and been catchin up. x is funny tonite :)

He's been on something of a roll on this and other threads. Must be the impending nuptials that have put a spring in his step.

so it wasn't 9% and it wasn't 11% either. what, oh what will the media make of this in the morning?

Peter G @ 122:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 117:

EliteLemming @ 116:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 115:

Are you guys playin' wifout me? *sniff, sob*

Just came over late at PtG's invite and been catchin up. x is funny tonite :)

He's been on something of a roll on this and other threads. Must be the impending nuptials that have put a spring in his step.

Impendance impacting importunate impertinences negating nuptial impotence impossibilities, I dare alliterate.

Peter G @ 127:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 123:

EliteLemming @ 121:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 119:

didn't you read my comments?

yep, ya locked yerself out. Just come in the doggie door, hehe.

Easier said then done for a double x. Thought I was locked out when i just fucked up my password.

I'm sure if you lead the way, he'll follow, lol.

Fuck this shit! I'm gonna get drunk and Ska it up before that's outlawed too. Congrats to the machine, and ganigh ta lockarume rude boys...

And "myiq1/2gumps" can suck my anus...

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 128:

Peter G @ 127:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 123:

EliteLemming @ 121:
yep, ya locked yerself out. Just come in the doggie door, hehe.

Easier said then done for a double x. Thought I was locked out when i just fucked up my password.

I'm sure if you lead the way, he'll follow, lol.

Um the hole is a little bigger now. Will accommodate great danes and maybe a shetland pony.

Peter G @ 132:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 128:

Peter G @ 127:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 123:
Easier said then done for a double x. Thought I was locked out when i just fucked up my password.

I'm sure if you lead the way, he'll follow, lol.

Um the hole is a little bigger now. Will accommodate great danes and maybe a shetland pony.

Are you guys calling me fat?

EliteLemming @ 134:

Peter G @ 132:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 128:

Peter G @ 127:
I'm sure if you lead the way, he'll follow, lol.

Um the hole is a little bigger now. Will accommodate great danes and maybe a shetland pony.

Are you guys calling me fat?

More self referential than accusatory. I weigh in at about 250.

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 135:

Peter G @ 132:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 128:

Peter G @ 127:
I'm sure if you lead the way, he'll follow, lol.

Um the hole is a little bigger now. Will accommodate great danes and maybe a shetland pony.

Probly there already, just missed him somehow.

Certainly looks first rate, possibly even elite.

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 135:

Peter G @ 132:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 128:

Peter G @ 127:
I'm sure if you lead the way, he'll follow, lol.

Um the hole is a little bigger now. Will accommodate great danes and maybe a shetland pony.

Probly there already, just missed him somehow.

That was me on the first attempt at collage, how jew get that?

To Hillary and Bushco,

You're gangstas!

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 143:

EliteLemming @ 140:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 135:

Peter G @ 132:
Probly there already, just missed him somehow.

That was me on the first attempt at collage, how jew get that?

Uncle Ron gave it to me. He says he knows your mom too.

How did you know I was here? I just got off the phone with my little lady in Oregon

Ron @ 144:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 143:

EliteLemming @ 140:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 135:

That was me on the first attempt at collage, how jew get that?

Uncle Ron gave it to me. He says he knows your mom too.

How did you know I was here? I just got off the phone with my little lady in Oregon

Who do ya think told her to hang up?
;-}

EliteLemming @ 145:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 143:

EliteLemming @ 140:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 135:

That was me on the first attempt at collage, how jew get that?

Uncle Ron gave it to me. He says he knows your mom too.

The reunions are huge.

And always at the bottom of the Grand Canyon, why is that?

Ron @ 149:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 146:

Ron @ 144:

Proud2bHumble Hus(in)sein @ 143:
How did you know I was here? I just got off the phone with my little lady in Oregon

Who do ya think told her to hang up?
;-}

She's a lot younger than your mom, prettier too.

And smells great!
;-}