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Sat, 06/21/2008 - 22:09 — Omir the Storyteller (not verified)
I heard of exactly one switch pitcher before. Wish I could remember his name. As I heard the story, he came out throwing right, and the batter got into the right-handed batter's box. Then the pitcher took off his glove and switched to his left hand. The batter called time and switched over to the left handed box. Pitcher switched to right hand. Batter switched boxes. This kept up for a few minutes, thoroughly entertaining the crowd, until the unpire stepped in and told them to knock it off and choose a side.
Also, I posted this in a previous thread, but here goes[Added some stuff, though...]:
If the 22%er’s can get everything they want from the psychotic repukes, tell me why the vast majority cannot get anything they want from the democrats?
Oh, I agree. Hell, I think Obama only wanting to give four grand in tuition for community service is out-of-touch with the majority of us 20-somethings who have to pay the equivalent of a mortgage to attend today’s collegess. But we have to start somewhere. Those fundies didn’t grab their party by the nuts overnight. No, they built up their party into the group of butt-kissing zombies it is today. Unfortunately, we let them do that, without any counter-attack of our own, because we assumed they were just harmless kooks; and that’s really why we’re in this mess today. So, whether we like it or not, Obama is just a first step, not the final step in this progressive movement.
Even if he wins, the battle is not going to end. Look what happened when Clinton won: Consumers and gays got less rights than before, while HMOs and corporations got even more powerful than under Reagan. You can blame "centrists" all you want, but the "apathetic" voters share some responsibility for this mess, too. Gore and Kerry would have gotten bigger majorities which overpowered Bush's machines, if only the people who stay at home chose to do something responsible once every four effing years!
Sat, 06/21/2008 - 22:20 — Matt in Texas (not verified)
I called Obama's phone number, and got the "We can't take any more calls" recorded crap. Then I emailed him, and got the "Thank you, but we can't respond to all emails" crap.
I still think a lot of our well established group here have too many expectations from our presumptive nominee. Folks, we have one hell of a mess to clean up that has been multiplying for over 30 years. It's not going to be easy for anybody. Let's stick together and try to get a fix for future generations.
And for the record, I'm not delusional enough to believe that everything will suddenly be rainbows and puppies, if Obama is elected. That's not why I voted for him in the primaries. I picked him, because he took a stand against the central issue of this decade. Would I like him to give us all ponies, too? Yes, but that's not going to happen, even if it were Kucinich or Nader who was elected President. That's just the way things are right now, unfortunately. We have to work chip away at the old order before we can make real progress. As it is, we finally have a candidate who speaks for a broader segment of voters than in what seems like forever. Roll with it, and don't look back on all the pitfalls along the way.
And for the record, I'm not delusional enough to believe that everything will suddenly be rainbows and puppies, if Obama is elected. That's not why I voted for him in the primaries. I picked him, because he took a stand against the central issue of this decade. Would I like him to give us all ponies, too? Yes, but that's not going to happen, even if it were Kucinich or Nader who was elected President. That's just the way things are right now, unfortunately. We have to work chip away at the old order before we can make real progress. As it is, we finally have a candidate who speaks for a broader segment of voters than in what seems like forever. Roll with it, and don't look back on all the pitfalls along the way.
And for the record, I'm not delusional enough to believe that everything will suddenly be rainbows and puppies, if Obama is elected. That's not why I voted for him in the primaries. I picked him, because he took a stand against the central issue of this decade. Would I like him to give us all ponies, too? Yes, but that's not going to happen, even if it were Kucinich or Nader who was elected President. That's just the way things are right now, unfortunately. We have to work chip away at the old order before we can make real progress. As it is, we finally have a candidate who speaks for a broader segment of voters than in what seems like forever. Roll with it, and don't look back on all the pitfalls along the way.
Sat, 06/21/2008 - 22:34 — Ray Radlein (not verified)
The highest any switch-pitcher had ever made it in the minor leagues, last I remember hearing, was AA ball (although there was at least one major-leaguer who began fooling around with it and got good enough to keep threatening to bust out his off arm some day).
It has happened often enough over the years now that there is an established procedure for switch-pitchers: They can only switch arms between batters, to avoid that precise shuffle. So basically, when you have a switch-hitter stepping up to the plate, the manager and the pitcher decide which way they would like him to bat, and lock in accordingly. If the batter feels like switching around after that, to bat lefty-on-lefty or righty-on-righty, well, then, that's his decision.
One of these days it will happen in the majors, because one of these days just about any thing will happen in the majors, with the likely exception of someone breaking Cy Young's career wins (or losses) record.
Speaking of crap, Joe Lieberman Emperor Porcupine announced he wants to be number two. Bad news, Emperor, you have been number two for some time now. Get ready to get flushed back to the sewer by the voters when your slimy pals and Grandpa Mc Lame get their ass kicked in November.
I called Obama's phone number, and got the "We can't take any more calls" recorded crap. Then I emailed him, and got the "Thank you, but we can't respond to all emails" crap.
So much for "change."
I hate waiting on hold as well, so here you go, courtesy of Alice X:
I called Obama's phone number, and got the "We can't take any more calls" recorded crap. Then I emailed him, and got the "Thank you, but we can't respond to all emails" crap.
So much for "change."
I hate waiting on hold as well, so here you go, courtesy of Alice X:
Speaking of crap, Joe Lieberman Emperor Porcupine announced he wants to be number two. Bad news, Emperor, you have been number two for some time now. Get ready to get flushed back to the sewer by the voters when your slimy pals and Grandpa Mc Lame get their ass kicked in November.
Speaking of crap, Joe Lieberman Emperor Porcupine announced he wants to be number two. Bad news, Emperor, you have been number two for some time now. Get ready to get flushed back to the sewer by the voters when your slimy pals and Grandpa Mc Lame get their ass kicked in November.
Sat, 06/21/2008 - 22:44 — Peter von Nostrand (not verified)
It would seem to me that if you're pitching with one hand (say the left) and then switch to the other hand, you have effectively made a pitching change. Therefore, regardless of what the hitter does you can't go back to the other hand. This matters because switching to the other hand constitutes a pitching change, therefore the batter can change. But that's just me and I don't know what the rule book says and apparently this is something that the rules haven't caught up to yet. Thanks Bud, you still are the worst commissioner in professional sports.
Does this guy throw with the same amount of power from either hand?
It would be interesting to find out, a la switch hitters who have a better average from one side of the plate, but more power from the other. Maybe this guy has better location from one side, but better velocity from the other.
I, too, am an ambidextrous pitcher: I stink from both sides.
It would seem to me that if you're pitching with one hand (say the left) and then switch to the other hand, you have effectively made a pitching change. Therefore, regardless of what the hitter does you can't go back to the other hand. This matters because switching to the other hand constitutes a pitching change, therefore the batter can change. But that's just me and I don't know what the rule book says and apparently this is something that the rules haven't caught up to yet. Thanks Bud, you still are the worst commissioner in professional sports.
Ah, but the "previous" pitcher has stayed on the field, so technically he can "re-enter" the game as a pitcher. (OK, that's enough baseball geekery for me.)
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
He fooled the batter. Any pitcher that can fool the batter has a carreer going.
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June 22, 2008
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It would seem to me that if you're pitching with one hand (say the left) and then switch to the other hand, you have effectively made a pitching change. Therefore, regardless of what the hitter does you can't go back to the other hand. This matters because switching to the other hand constitutes a pitching change, therefore the batter can change. But that's just me and I don't know what the rule book says and apparently this is something that the rules haven't caught up to yet. Thanks Bud, you still are the worst commissioner in professional sports.
Ah, but the "previous" pitcher has stayed on the field, so technically he can "re-enter" the game as a pitcher. (OK, that's enough baseball geekery for me.)
I have a really good counter argument to that, however I have had too much to drink to put it into a lucid position (other than to me.)
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
It would seem to me that if you're pitching with one hand (say the left) and then switch to the other hand, you have effectively made a pitching change. Therefore, regardless of what the hitter does you can't go back to the other hand. This matters because switching to the other hand constitutes a pitching change, therefore the batter can change. But that's just me and I don't know what the rule book says and apparently this is something that the rules haven't caught up to yet. Thanks Bud, you still are the worst commissioner in professional sports.
Ah, but the "previous" pitcher has stayed on the field, so technically he can "re-enter" the game as a pitcher. (OK, that's enough baseball geekery for me.)
This should have been addressed years ago because as I remember there were several players in college that could pitch both left/right in college back then.
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
Uhh, what if the pitcher just threw one across the plate. Could hurt.
And for the record, I'm not delusional enough to believe that everything will suddenly be rainbows and puppies, if Obama is elected. That's not why I voted for him in the primaries. I picked him, because he took a stand against the central issue of this decade. Would I like him to give us all ponies, too? Yes, but that's not going to happen, even if it were Kucinich or Nader who was elected President. That's just the way things are right now, unfortunately. We have to work chip away at the old order before we can make real progress. As it is, we finally have a candidate who speaks for a broader segment of voters than in what seems like forever. Roll with it, and don't look back on all the pitfalls along the way.
Thank you for saying that as well, even though I *heart* ponies (and horses).
We've got to stop from letting the fair-weathered supporters around here from commandeering our push to get the republicans out.
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
No, the batter must be entirely within one batters box.
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
No, the batter must be entirely within one batters box.
Thanks! (Although umps sometimes let them get away with being a little out of it, i.e. slightly back of it.)
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
Uhh, what if the pitcher just threw one across the plate. Could hurt.
Speaking of crap, Joe Lieberman Emperor Porcupine announced he wants to be number two. Bad news, Emperor, you have been number two for some time now. Get ready to get flushed back to the sewer by the voters when your slimy pals and Grandpa Mc Lame get their ass kicked in November.
LIEberman, not only a traitor to his party, a traitor to his country. I still think that Diebold had something to do with his win in Ct.
Could be. But I did get a good laugh about the headline that he wanted to be number two. He is one of the most treasonous, malignant pieces of crap in public service. And that's saying something given that we have George of the Bungle and Dr. Strangelove in our executive branch. I pray that we can repay this modern day Benedict Arnold big time for his treachery.
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
Uhh, what if the pitcher just threw one across the plate. Could hurt.
Speaking of crap, Joe Lieberman Emperor Porcupine announced he wants to be number two. Bad news, Emperor, you have been number two for some time now. Get ready to get flushed back to the sewer by the voters when your slimy pals and Grandpa Mc Lame get their ass kicked in November.
LIEberman, not only a traitor to his party, a traitor to his country. I still think that Diebold had something to do with his win in Ct.
Could be. But I did get a good laugh about the headline that he wanted to be number two. He is one of the most treasonous, malignant pieces of crap in public service. And that's saying something given that we have George of the Bungle and Dr. Strangelove in our executive branch. I pray that we can repay this modern day Benedict Arnold big time for his treachery.
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
Uhh, what if the pitcher just threw one across the plate. Could hurt.
Three balls over the plate about waist high?
Stikeout in one pitch!
Ouch! Sort of like one of George Carlin's 2-way words (words you can sometimes say, sometimes not.)
"Roberto Clemente has 2 balls on him." (OK)
"I think Clememte hurt his balls on that play. He's holding them!" (Not OK)
Yeah, I know, Roberto Clemente - showing my age. But that was in his act many moons ago.
There was also the word "prick."
"Yes, you can prick your finger, but don't finger your prick!"
Sat, 06/21/2008 - 23:14 — Peter von Nostrand (not verified)
I would say that since the pitcher was throwing x handed to the previous batters he has therefore declared that he is an x handed pitcher. If you are going to say that each can switch once, the pitcher declares first and then the batter. I wouldn't disagree with the logic the umpires used, only the choice of who chose first. Pitchers (as far as I know) are announced before hitters, in general.
I would say that since the pitcher was throwing x handed to the previous batters he has therefore declared that he is an x handed pitcher. If you are going to say that each can switch once, the pitcher declares first and then the batter. I wouldn't disagree with the logic the umpires used, only the choice of who chose first. Pitchers (as far as I know) are announced before hitters, in general.
We can be sure if there is not a rule they will make one to keep the game moving. Baseball is slow enough as it is.
I would say that since the pitcher was throwing x handed to the previous batters he has therefore declared that he is an x handed pitcher. If you are going to say that each can switch once, the pitcher declares first and then the batter. I wouldn't disagree with the logic the umpires used, only the choice of who chose first. Pitchers (as far as I know) are announced before hitters, in general.
We can be sure if there is not a rule they will make one to keep the game moving. Baseball is slow enough as it is.
Beyond the shadow of a doubt, baseball is my favorite sport and I couldn't agree more.
Sat, 06/21/2008 - 23:23 — Matt in Texas (not verified)
Hey, Peter, here's one for you: in the case of an intentional walk, how 'bout they just declare it and let the batter go to first w/o having to actually throw 4 pitches?
Hey, Peter, here's one for you: in the case of an intentional walk, how 'bout they just declare it and let the batter go to first w/o having to actually throw 4 pitches?
To me it's kind of like icing in hockey, without the risk of injury. In the case of baseball, I say that they should make them throw the 4 pitches. If you can't play catch and make 4 throws without suffering a major brain freeze you deserve whatever happens. In hockey, since their is the risk of injury, there should be automatic icing.
Is nothing sacred anymore?
We have to leave something for the imagination.
I gotta a feelin I shouldn't be saying this.
somehow I think this will turn on me and bite me on the ass.
That being said, GN Folks,Be well.
Hey, Peter, here's one for you: in the case of an intentional walk, how 'bout they just declare it and let the batter go to first w/o having to actually throw 4 pitches?
To me it's kind of like icing in hockey, without the risk of injury. In the case of baseball, I say that they should make them throw the 4 pitches. If you can't play catch and make 4 throws without suffering a major brain freeze you deserve whatever happens. In hockey, since their is the risk of injury, there should be automatic icing.
Yeah, but it does waste time. Chances of anyone throwing away 4 planned pitchouts is pretty remote, wouldn't you say?
Hey, Peter, here's one for you: in the case of an intentional walk, how 'bout they just declare it and let the batter go to first w/o having to actually throw 4 pitches?
I saw a wild pitch in a case like that and the batter made it to second base. I think they are doing it right.
Is nothing sacred anymore?
We have to leave something for the imagination.
I gotta a feelin I shouldn't be saying this.
somehow I think this will turn on me and bite me on the ass.
That being said, GN Folks,Be well.
Hey, Peter, here's one for you: in the case of an intentional walk, how 'bout they just declare it and let the batter go to first w/o having to actually throw 4 pitches?
I saw a wild pitch in a case like that and the batter made it to second base. I think they are doing it right.
Ok, then. How about a limit on time-outs on the field? You know, so not every person who steals a base can call one? I'd like to hear some other time-saving ideas.
Ladies of refinement in Canada, or handmaidens, leave the stick-handling and pole-raising to the menfolk. We ladies quite often handpick from the handful who have proven themselves proficient in handling such skills handily.
Hey, Peter, here's one for you: in the case of an intentional walk, how 'bout they just declare it and let the batter go to first w/o having to actually throw 4 pitches?
To me it's kind of like icing in hockey, without the risk of injury. In the case of baseball, I say that they should make them throw the 4 pitches. If you can't play catch and make 4 throws without suffering a major brain freeze you deserve whatever happens. In hockey, since their is the risk of injury, there should be automatic icing.
Yeah, but it does waste time. Chances of anyone throwing away 4 planned pitchouts is pretty remote, wouldn't you say?
Yes it is remote. I can only think of maybe 1 or 2 instances in the last 4 or 5 years where something has happened due to actually making them throw the pitches. But if it's from the standpoint of speeding up the game, there are much better ways to do that than intentional walks. IW's happen, maybe at best, 1 out of every 2 or 3 games for the average team (granted they happen more in the NL than the AL, and I see mostly AL games.) It honestly wouldn't bother me either way.
Ladies of refinement in Canada, or handmaidens, leave the stick-handling and pole-raising to the menfolk. We ladies quite often handpick from the handful who have proven themselves proficient in handling such skills handily.
I guess that would make you ladies a Hands On kinda gals
Ladies of refinement in Canada, or handmaidens, leave the stick-handling and pole-raising to the menfolk. We ladies quite often handpick from the handful who have proven themselves proficient in handling such skills handily.
Wow, someone who must know something about me.....
I have a home in Key Largo I rent out, but my long-term renters recently moved out. I will be there sometime this summer to do some general maintenance, but I did live there 1997-2002, and previously from 1989-1992.
To me it's kind of like icing in hockey, without the risk of injury. In the case of baseball, I say that they should make them throw the 4 pitches. If you can't play catch and make 4 throws without suffering a major brain freeze you deserve whatever happens. In hockey, since their is the risk of injury, there should be automatic icing.
Yeah, but it does waste time. Chances of anyone throwing away 4 planned pitchouts is pretty remote, wouldn't you say?
Yes it is remote. I can only think of maybe 1 or 2 instances in the last 4 or 5 years where something has happened due to actually making them throw the pitches. But if it's from the standpoint of speeding up the game, there are much better ways to do that than intentional walks. IW's happen, maybe at best, 1 out of every 2 or 3 games for the average team (granted they happen more in the NL than the AL, and I see mostly AL games.) It honestly wouldn't bother me either way.
Don't forget that part of the game is how fresh the pitcher is. If the pitcher chooses to walk a batter to avoid pitching to him AND save four pitches it seems a bit unfair.
Ladies of refinement in Canada, or handmaidens, leave the stick-handling and pole-raising to the menfolk. We ladies quite often handpick from the handful who have proven themselves proficient in handling such skills handily.
I guess that would make you ladies a Hands On kinda gals
stick handling sounds kinda sticky.
OK I'm gone, no really. I have a long day tomorrow.
no wait, I have a big day tomorrow. no wait
nevermind. gn
Ladies of refinement in Canada, or handmaidens, leave the stick-handling and pole-raising to the menfolk. We ladies quite often handpick from the handful who have proven themselves proficient in handling such skills handily.
The GOP is worried that Barr will be a spoiler candidate. McCain tries to take credit for Obama's suggestion that we clamp down on energy speculators. The flood is causing corn, meat, and dairy prices to go up. Afghanistan needs 6,000 troops.
generally, all the price fluctuations based on or around rumors and not based on actual reports are simply the result of speculation. KO, last Tuesday, gave a detailed expose of the circumstances of the enron loophole, including the fact that it is so broadly applied that food and many other commodities are more subject to speculation than to the actual laws of supply and demand.
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Repeal FISA is now a day old. We have seven bloggers with at least one more in the works and have been visited by 345 unique viewers. Other sites have placed us on their links and people are posting about us independently.
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This site belongs to all of us. Say what you want and even better do what you want to see done.
I am excited with what has occurred in such a short period of time. Please mention the site in your web travels and anywhere else you think appropriate.
The GOP is worried that Barr will be a spoiler candidate. McCain tries to take credit for Obama's suggestion that we clamp down on energy speculators. The flood is causing corn, meat, and dairy prices to go up. Afghanistan needs 6,000 troops.
McCain: ‘I Didn’t Love Evangelicals Until They Held My Nomination Prisoner’
I heard of exactly one switch pitcher before. Wish I could remember his name. As I heard the story, he came out throwing right, and the batter got into the right-handed batter's box. Then the pitcher took off his glove and switched to his left hand. The batter called time and switched over to the left handed box. Pitcher switched to right hand. Batter switched boxes. This kept up for a few minutes, thoroughly entertaining the crowd, until the unpire stepped in and told them to knock it off and choose a side.
Also, I posted this in a previous thread, but here goes[Added some stuff, though...]:
Oh, I agree. Hell, I think Obama only wanting to give four grand in tuition for community service is out-of-touch with the majority of us 20-somethings who have to pay the equivalent of a mortgage to attend today’s collegess. But we have to start somewhere. Those fundies didn’t grab their party by the nuts overnight. No, they built up their party into the group of butt-kissing zombies it is today. Unfortunately, we let them do that, without any counter-attack of our own, because we assumed they were just harmless kooks; and that’s really why we’re in this mess today. So, whether we like it or not, Obama is just a first step, not the final step in this progressive movement.
Even if he wins, the battle is not going to end. Look what happened when Clinton won: Consumers and gays got less rights than before, while HMOs and corporations got even more powerful than under Reagan. You can blame "centrists" all you want, but the "apathetic" voters share some responsibility for this mess, too. Gore and Kerry would have gotten bigger majorities which overpowered Bush's machines, if only the people who stay at home chose to do something responsible once every four effing years!
awesome! too bad he couldn't develope an ambidextrious windup and really suprise some cats!
I called Obama's phone number, and got the "We can't take any more calls" recorded crap. Then I emailed him, and got the "Thank you, but we can't respond to all emails" crap.
So much for "change."
Hey, there's a new slogan!
"Crap you can count on."
I still think a lot of our well established group here have too many expectations from our presumptive nominee. Folks, we have one hell of a mess to clean up that has been multiplying for over 30 years. It's not going to be easy for anybody. Let's stick together and try to get a fix for future generations.
And for the record, I'm not delusional enough to believe that everything will suddenly be rainbows and puppies, if Obama is elected. That's not why I voted for him in the primaries. I picked him, because he took a stand against the central issue of this decade. Would I like him to give us all ponies, too? Yes, but that's not going to happen, even if it were Kucinich or Nader who was elected President. That's just the way things are right now, unfortunately. We have to work chip away at the old order before we can make real progress. As it is, we finally have a candidate who speaks for a broader segment of voters than in what seems like forever. Roll with it, and don't look back on all the pitfalls along the way.
Tequila @ 10:
Who in hell needs a pony anyway.
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A great site for those of you who are 'off the table', like myself.
Ron @ 11:
They're delicious when ya cook 'em just right!
The highest any switch-pitcher had ever made it in the minor leagues, last I remember hearing, was AA ball (although there was at least one major-leaguer who began fooling around with it and got good enough to keep threatening to bust out his off arm some day).
It has happened often enough over the years now that there is an established procedure for switch-pitchers: They can only switch arms between batters, to avoid that precise shuffle. So basically, when you have a switch-hitter stepping up to the plate, the manager and the pitcher decide which way they would like him to bat, and lock in accordingly. If the batter feels like switching around after that, to bat lefty-on-lefty or righty-on-righty, well, then, that's his decision.
One of these days it will happen in the majors, because one of these days just about any thing will happen in the majors, with the likely exception of someone breaking Cy Young's career wins (or losses) record.
Matt in Texas @ 8:
Speaking of crap,
Joe LiebermanEmperor Porcupine announced he wants to be number two. Bad news, Emperor, you have been number two for some time now. Get ready to get flushed back to the sewer by the voters when your slimy pals and Grandpa Mc Lame get their ass kicked in November.www.236.com/news/2008/06/19/i_wanna_be_number_two_joe_lieb_1_7243.php
Matt in Texas @ 7:
I hate waiting on hold as well, so here you go, courtesy of Alice X:
Free internet faxing service from US and Canada: http://faxzero.com/
Obama's fax number (confirmed-mine went through): 202.228.4260.
fastfeat @ 16:
Thanks!
Does this guy throw with the same amount of power from either hand?
bmw 528 @ 15:
LIEberman, not only a traitor to his party, a traitor to his country. I still think that Diebold had something to do with his win in Ct.
bmw 528 @ 15:
This is a concern, because Holy Joe could swing the entire "Connecticut for Lieberman" party vote.
Nice clip. A switch pitcher against a switch hitter...
It would seem to me that if you're pitching with one hand (say the left) and then switch to the other hand, you have effectively made a pitching change. Therefore, regardless of what the hitter does you can't go back to the other hand. This matters because switching to the other hand constitutes a pitching change, therefore the batter can change. But that's just me and I don't know what the rule book says and apparently this is something that the rules haven't caught up to yet. Thanks Bud, you still are the worst commissioner in professional sports.
Mister Anderson @ 18:
It would be interesting to find out, a la switch hitters who have a better average from one side of the plate, but more power from the other. Maybe this guy has better location from one side, but better velocity from the other.
I, too, am an ambidextrous pitcher: I stink from both sides.
Peter von Nostrand @ 22:
Ah, but the "previous" pitcher has stayed on the field, so technically he can "re-enter" the game as a pitcher. (OK, that's enough baseball geekery for me.)
Tossing with either hand adds spice to your life.
seevee @ 25:
Sounds like my sex life.
That was a pretty ugly looking pitch he ended up throwing, if a batter were smart with a switch pitcher he'd make him first make the switch, then stand there with his bat on his shoulder until he was walked
Rodney Dangerfield:
"I tell ya, the first time I had sex I was scared, boy, was I scared.
I was all alone."
Matt in Texas @ 26:
you guys just had to go there,didn't you.
gives new meaning to the term------Five finger discount.
odanny @ 27:
He fooled the batter. Any pitcher that can fool the batter has a carreer going.
McCain could have a conflict brewing
By Ralph Vartabedian, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
June 22, 2008
Hensley & Co., one of the nation's major beer wholesalers, has brought the family of Cindy McCain wealth, prestige and influence in Phoenix, but it could also create conflicts for her husband, Sen. John McCain, if he is elected president in November.
Hensley, founded by Cindy McCain's late father, holds federal and state licenses to distribute beer and lobbies regulatory agencies on alcohol issues that involve public health and safety.
The company has opposed such groups as Mothers Against Drunk Driving in fighting proposed federal rules requiring alcohol content information on every package of beer, wine and liquor.
Its executives, including John McCain's son Andrew, have written at least 10 letters in recent years to the Treasury Department, have contributed tens of thousands of dollars to a beer industry political action committee, and hold a seat on the board of the politically powerful National Beer Wholesalers Assn.
Hensley has run afoul of health advocacy groups that have tried to rein in appeals to young drinkers. For example, the company distributes caffeinated alcoholic drinks that public health groups say put young and underage consumers at risk by disguising the effects of intoxication....
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-hensley22-2008jun22,0,3931241,full.story
Matt in Texas @ 24:
I have a really good counter argument to that, however I have had too much to drink to put it into a lucid position (other than to me.)
odanny @ 27:
Could the hitter straddle the plate (as long as one foot was in each batter's box!) until the pitcher committed to an arm, then step into the appropriate batter's box?
Seriously, anyone know the rule on this? (Damn, I just swore off this stuff.)
Matt in Texas @ 24:
This should have been addressed years ago because as I remember there were several players in college that could pitch both left/right in college back then.
Matt in Texas @ 33:
Uhh, what if the pitcher just threw one across the plate. Could hurt.
Tequila @ 10:
Thank you for saying that as well, even though I *heart* ponies (and horses).
We've got to stop from letting the fair-weathered supporters around here from commandeering our push to get the republicans out.
Matt in Texas @ 33:
No, the batter must be entirely within one batters box.
mudshark @ 29:
Sorry - I was channeling my inner 7th-grader.
mudshark @ 29:
It's out of my hands.
Matt in Texas @ 38:
uh huh, sure.
Peter von Nostrand @ 37:
Thanks! (Although umps sometimes let them get away with being a little out of it, i.e. slightly back of it.)
Ron @ 35:
Yeah, but he'd get first base!
Ron @ 19:
Could be. But I did get a good laugh about the headline that he wanted to be number two. He is one of the most treasonous, malignant pieces of crap in public service. And that's saying something given that we have George of the Bungle and Dr. Strangelove in our executive branch. I pray that we can repay this modern day Benedict Arnold big time for his treachery.
Ron @ 35:
Three balls over the plate about waist high?
Stikeout in one pitch!
bmw 528 @ 43:
I understand he is well hated in some circles.
xoites defends Constitution @ 44:
Ouch! Sort of like one of George Carlin's 2-way words (words you can sometimes say, sometimes not.)
"Roberto Clemente has 2 balls on him." (OK)
"I think Clememte hurt his balls on that play. He's holding them!" (Not OK)
Yeah, I know, Roberto Clemente - showing my age. But that was in his act many moons ago.
There was also the word "prick."
"Yes, you can prick your finger, but don't finger your prick!"
Matt in Texas @ 23:
Yeah. I throw like a very small toddler girl from both sides. :D
seevee, Matt, and mudshark ... the hard truth is, I'm not touching any of those comments with a 10-foot pole ... hehe
calgarylady @ 48:
heh, heh...heh, heh...you said "hard" and "pole".......heh, heh
miss_kitty @ 47:
Be very careful. You may get the attention of the sick minded repugnabt.
calgarylady @ 48:
And I'm not touching them with someone else's 10-foot pole.
I would say that since the pitcher was throwing x handed to the previous batters he has therefore declared that he is an x handed pitcher. If you are going to say that each can switch once, the pitcher declares first and then the batter. I wouldn't disagree with the logic the umpires used, only the choice of who chose first. Pitchers (as far as I know) are announced before hitters, in general.
calgarylady @ 48:
I am not sure that batter could have touched that pitch with a ten foot pole.
Joe Wiczkowski, a ten foot Pole disagrees.
xoites defends Constitution @ 53:
Might just take ten fingers.
Peter von Nostrand @ 52:
We can be sure if there is not a rule they will make one to keep the game moving. Baseball is slow enough as it is.
xoites defends Constitution @ 53:
Wasn't Alexander Graham Belloski the first telephone Pole? (Relax, my Polish grandmother told me that one.)
xoites defends Constitution @ 55:
Beyond the shadow of a doubt, baseball is my favorite sport and I couldn't agree more.
Hey, Peter, here's one for you: in the case of an intentional walk, how 'bout they just declare it and let the batter go to first w/o having to actually throw 4 pitches?
Mac O' Grady used to play on the PGA tour right handed but could shoot scratch as a lefty.
miss_kitty @ 51:
I'm flattered
I think.
seevee @ 59:
And Phil Mickelson is right-handed in everything else; he learned golf as a lefty by mirroring his right-handed dad.
mudshark @ 60:
Well, accounting for "shrinkage"......
Matt in Texas @ 62:
too much :)
Matt in Texas @ 58:
To me it's kind of like icing in hockey, without the risk of injury. In the case of baseball, I say that they should make them throw the 4 pitches. If you can't play catch and make 4 throws without suffering a major brain freeze you deserve whatever happens. In hockey, since their is the risk of injury, there should be automatic icing.
mudshark @ 63:
And I thought the repugnants were liars.
mudshark @ 63:
Is nothing sacred anymore?
We have to leave something for the imagination.
I gotta a feelin I shouldn't be saying this.
somehow I think this will turn on me and bite me on the ass.
That being said, GN Folks,Be well.
Peter von Nostrand @ 64:
Yeah, but it does waste time. Chances of anyone throwing away 4 planned pitchouts is pretty remote, wouldn't you say?
Matt in Texas @ 58:
I saw a wild pitch in a case like that and the batter made it to second base. I think they are doing it right.
mudshark @ 66:
Well, if your ass is less than 10 feet away.....
greg harris who only ever got to demonstrate the skill once. played for the red sox 89-94, and ended his career with the expos...
xoites defends Constitution @ 68:
Ok, then. How about a limit on time-outs on the field? You know, so not every person who steals a base can call one? I'd like to hear some other time-saving ideas.
Matt in Texas - when is Matt in Florida?
Ladies of refinement in Canada, or handmaidens, leave the stick-handling and pole-raising to the menfolk. We ladies quite often handpick from the handful who have proven themselves proficient in handling such skills handily.
Matt in Texas @ 67:
Yes it is remote. I can only think of maybe 1 or 2 instances in the last 4 or 5 years where something has happened due to actually making them throw the pitches. But if it's from the standpoint of speeding up the game, there are much better ways to do that than intentional walks. IW's happen, maybe at best, 1 out of every 2 or 3 games for the average team (granted they happen more in the NL than the AL, and I see mostly AL games.) It honestly wouldn't bother me either way.
calgarylady @ 73:
I guess that would make you ladies a Hands On kinda gals
calgarylady @ 73:
It's not the size, it's the skill of the batter.
Wuzup Hussein Dawk @ 72:
Wow, someone who must know something about me.....
I have a home in Key Largo I rent out, but my long-term renters recently moved out. I will be there sometime this summer to do some general maintenance, but I did live there 1997-2002, and previously from 1989-1992.
Do I know you?
Peter von Nostrand @ 74:
Don't forget that part of the game is how fresh the pitcher is. If the pitcher chooses to walk a batter to avoid pitching to him AND save four pitches it seems a bit unfair.
mudshark @ 75:
stick handling sounds kinda sticky.
OK I'm gone, no really. I have a long day tomorrow.
no wait, I have a big day tomorrow. no wait
nevermind. gn
Ron @ 76:
That's true, but a bigger bat helps.
Matt in Texas @ 77:
Sorry, no --- actually a very odd coincidence.
Carry on.
xoites defends Constitution @ 1:
I just sent out my blast on the site and the challenge.
Tequila @ 2:
generally, all the price fluctuations based on or around rumors and not based on actual reports are simply the result of speculation. KO, last Tuesday, gave a detailed expose of the circumstances of the enron loophole, including the fact that it is so broadly applied that food and many other commodities are more subject to speculation than to the actual laws of supply and demand.
It's a whole new game.