The GOP and the media have a problem with Obama being determined to end the war. The State Dept. is abusing its power by spying on celebrities.
The White House has a problem with detainees being freed, if proven guilty.

Here is real, audacious hope (video) not the ersatz stuff that's been peddled of late. This is a speech by Alaska Democratic Senate candidate Mark Begich. He takes what has lately become a controversial stand even within the Democratic Party: he promises to support and restore the Constitution and prevent government interference in the lives of law-abiding citizens. There's no nuance or parsing here. After the recent disillusionment on the Presidential front, it's heartening to see that there really are Dems out there who are not the captives of lobbyists and wormtongued campaign consultants.

My politician money is now going straight to anti-FISA pols. Not a dime to Obama. Whether he wins or not, we need more and better Congresspeople. I expect Obama will get plenty of cash of the telecoms.

FBI Gets Into the Business, Officially, of Race, Religion and Ethnicity Profiling. 7/3

Although President Bush has disavowed targeting suspects based on their race or ethnicity, the new rules would allow the FBI to consider those factors among a number of traits that could trigger a national security investigation

Kathy @ 6:

My politician money is now going straight to anti-FISA pols. Not a dime to Obama. Whether he wins or not, we need more and better Congresspeople. I expect Obama will get plenty of cash of the telecoms.

he appears to be taking on the calculating ways of the clintons, which made many people uncomfortable.

Naomi Klein on Disaster Capitalism: State of Extortion 7/14

Once oil passed $140 a barrel, even the most rabidly right-wing media hosts had to prove their populist cred by devoting a portion of every show to bashing Big Oil. Some have gone so far as to invite me on for a friendly chat about an insidious new phenomenon: "disaster capitalism." It usually goes well--until it doesn't.

Elizabeth Holtzman: Impeach Bush Now 7/4

According to a top aide, John McCain recently endorsed George W. Bush's right to wiretap American citizens without court approval, despite the clear requirements of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). Clearly, McCain has learned nothing from the past seven-plus years of Bush/Cheney assaults on the Constitution.

More troubling is that he doesn't seem very worried that his position will generate serious criticism. And apparently it has not. The lack of public outcry points to the likelihood that too many Americans are either confused about a President's prerogatives or have been persuaded by the years of Bush's constitutional abuses that a chief executive has the right to violate the law or subvert the Constitution in other ways.

McCain's position and the response to it demonstrate how much the Bush Administration has damaged public understanding of the system of checks and balances that lies at the heart of our democracy. The framers believed that unchecked power, including unchecked executive power, was the greatest threat to our liberties, but too many citizens today perceive that danger as unreal.

Hundreds of Billions of Our Taxpayer Dollars, Thousands of Lives, and Our National Infrastructure Crumbling, All to Subsidize the Profiteering of the Bush/Cheney Oil Swindlers: "Bush administration officials knew that a Texas oil company with close ties to President Bush was planning to sign an oil deal with the regional Kurdistan government that ran counter to American policy and undercut Iraq’s central government, a Congressional committee has concluded."

What would Zeus do? @ 4:

Here is real, audacious hope (video) not the ersatz stuff that's been peddled of late. This is a speech by Alaska Democratic Senate candidate Mark Begich. He takes what has lately become a controversial stand even within the Democratic Party: he promises to support and restore the Constitution and prevent government interference in the lives of law-abiding citizens. There's no nuance or parsing here. After the recent disillusionment on the Presidential front, it's heartening to see that there really are Dems out there who are not the captives of lobbyists and wormtongued campaign consultants.

He's an Alaskan first?

I guess i was looking forward to hearing about a Democrat who was running for a seat in the United States Congress.

Irresponsible Journalism Alert: The Washington Post 7/4

It took more than four months, but something finally beat out the Vicki Iseman story for its sheer chutzpah and utter irresponsibility.

The culprit is this piece from the Washington Post,which alleges that Barack Obama received a "discount" on his 30-year home mortgage when he purchased his house in Hyde Park in 2005. Obama's mortgage rate was 5.625 percent; the Washington Post cites databases stating that the average rate on comparable properties was 5.93 percent.

So Obama's rate was 30 basis points better than the average. However, the amount of the loan and the nature of the property are not the only factors that determine a mortgage rate. Another major consideration is the creditworthiness of the borrower. According to current rate quotes from myFICO.com, a borrower with very good credit can expect a mortgage rate about 30 basis points better than someone with pretty good credit, and a borrower with excellent credit can expect about a 50 basis point discount.

Unless the Washington Post has access to Obama's FICO score -- and unless it has rented an apartment to him, it probably doesn't -- it is missing a pretty important piece of information on what Obama's mortgage rate ought to have been. What was Obama's FICO score? I don't know, but considering that...

* Obama had just gotten a $2.27 million book deal from Random House -- about $1 million more than the value of the mortgage.
* The Obamas each had exceptionally secure jobs that paid them a combined annual salary of about $500,000 per year.
* The Obamas had just sold their condo, on which they had realized a $137,500 profit.
* The Obamas were prominent public figures whose political futures depended in part on maintaining a reputation for responsibility and trustworthiness.
* The Obamas are known to be relatively thrifty and have no credit card debt but substantial savings.

...I would think that the Obamas were exceptionally creditworthy. So indeed, Obama received a "discount" -- the same discount that any borrower in his position would have received.

xoites defends Constitution @ 18:
Yo!

Hmm. Miles of California burning? MSM doesn't think it's that important. All day with Obama scandals. You would think there isn't even two wars going on.

This is Getting Fun. Since the WH Won't Let Anyone with Knowledge of Their Illegal Behavior Testify Before Congress, the House Judiciary Committee is Now Threatening Karl Rove with "Inherent Contempt." To Refresh Your Memories, That means that Capitol Police (as in the real Capitol) Would Seek Rove Out, Arrest Him, and Confine Him in the Basement of the Capitol. We're Not Joking. 7/4

P.D. @ 24:

Hmm. Miles of California burning? MSM doesn't think it's that important. All day with Obama scandals. You would think there isn't even two wars going on.

well, they even read to you whatever the papers are saying about Obama.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 26:

This is Getting Fun. Since the WH Won't Let Anyone with Knowledge of Their Illegal Behavior Testify Before Congress, the House Judiciary Committee is Now Threatening Karl Rove with "Inherent Contempt." To Refresh Your Memories, That means that Capitol Police (as in the real Capitol) Would Seek Rove Out, Arrest Him, and Confine Him in the Basement of the Capitol. We're Not Joking. 7/4

If it is indeed the Capitol Police and not the Seargent At Arms. Rove is in trouble. The Capitol Police are some serious badasses.

xoites defends Constitution @ 27:

Hi Cointelpro!

By the way. Reguardless of the facts, if O bama did it it was bad. If McCain didi it it was good. In fact i understand McCain's mere vicinity causes hostages to be reascued.

wll truthfully, if mcC*nt did anything wrong it's understandable and you're taking it the wrong way. BTW, haven't tasted his barbecued pig yet? what are you waiting for. Have some KKKoolaid with it! Really quenches the thirst.

Besides, what do you believe, me or your lying eyes and ears?

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 32:

xoites defends Constitution @ 27:

Hi Cointelpro!

By the way. Reguardless of the facts, if O bama did it it was bad. If McCain didi it it was good. In fact i understand McCain's mere vicinity causes hostages to be reascued.

wll truthfully, if mcC*nt did anything wrong it's understandable and you're taking it the wrong way. BTW, haven't tasted his barbecued pig yet? what are you waiting for. Have some KKKoolaid with it! Really quenches the thirst.

Besides, what do you believe, me or your lying eyes and ears?

Didnt McNasty use to do BBQs onboard his ship !?

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 34:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 32:

xoites defends Constitution @ 27:

Hi Cointelpro!

By the way. Reguardless of the facts, if O bama did it it was bad. If McCain didi it it was good. In fact i understand McCain's mere vicinity causes hostages to be reascued.

wll truthfully, if mcC*nt did anything wrong it's understandable and you're taking it the wrong way. BTW, haven't tasted his barbecued pig yet? what are you waiting for. Have some KKKoolaid with it! Really quenches the thirst.

Besides, what do you believe, me or your lying eyes and ears?

Didnt McNasty use to do BBQs onboard his ship !?

actuall, they were at at least one of his homes. they really happened and the arizona press refuse to participate.

What the Hell? Almost no reporting of the flood which destroyed our farmland. California burning. Limpballs saying the people are SO MUCH better than then the Katina victims because they weren't begging for water. What an outrage! The flood victims were better prepared! New Orleans was slammed by a Catagory 5 Hurricane! What the Hell!

Fun and games with FISA, no reason for retroactive immunity for scumbag F-word telcos.

Though the ruling does not directly consider this question, it does hint at how Walker, who was appointed by George Bush Sr., would be likely to rule on the merits. If FISA provides a real and binding limit on the surveillance power of the executive, after all, then it is hard to avoid the conclusion that the NSA's secret program of warrantless surveillance was indeed illegal. "If we get standing," predicted Eisenberg, "we win."

But Kurt Opsahl, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation who is litigating those cases, notes that the ruling "undercuts one of the talking points" that Democratic leaders have advanced as a rationale for endorsing the pending bill.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 35:

xoites defends Constitution @ 30:

catherine crier on "VERDICT/ABRAMS"
Verdict: Frog-Marching Rove @ C&L

jonathan turley on countdown

Countdown: Harriet Miers, Inherent Contempt, Pat Tillman & Executive Privilege

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 40:

Fun and games with FISA, no reason for retroactive immunity for scumbag F-word telcos.

Though the ruling does not directly consider this question, it does hint at how Walker, who was appointed by George Bush Sr., would be likely to rule on the merits. If FISA provides a real and binding limit on the surveillance power of the executive, after all, then it is hard to avoid the conclusion that the NSA's secret program of warrantless surveillance was indeed illegal. "If we get standing," predicted Eisenberg, "we win."

But Kurt Opsahl, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation who is litigating those cases, notes that the ruling "undercuts one of the talking points" that Democratic leaders have advanced as a rationale for endorsing the pending bill.

More on that here.

xoites defends Constitution @ 37:

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 33:

xoites defends Constitution @ 30:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 26: If it is indeed the Capitol Police and not the Seargent At Arms. Rove is in trouble. The Capitol Police are some serious badasses.

Yes serious bad asses, witness their arresting the Code Pink grannies for merely reading the Constitution aloud in a DC park.

Yes, they do arrest protesters. They have to if they want to stay hanging with their crew.

Seriously, if a Capitol Police Officer told me to get out of his way and i had no reason not to i would jump!

It was rather touching to see steroidal Capitol police dragging grannies off to the wagons on Youtube.
Makes one proud to be a taxpayer when justice and the suppression of the Constitution is carried out like this.

another string of C&L threads on Inherent Contempt

Ron @ 47:

Hey everybody, post this on every blog you visit this weekend.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-independence-2007.html

Hey, I already did that last week! what gives? you been updating?
:<[)

Peter G @ 49:

Bozo (Larry Harmon) is dead. Sigh.

that's a bozo nono!

Hmm! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080704/ap_on_el_pr/mccain_trade;_ylt=AhPXTz... It certainly isn't intelligent design.

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 46:

xoites defends Constitution @ 37:

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 33:

xoites defends Constitution @ 30:

Yes serious bad asses, witness their arresting the Code Pink grannies for merely reading the Constitution aloud in a DC park.

Yes, they do arrest protesters. They have to if they want to stay hanging with their crew.

Seriously, if a Capitol Police Officer told me to get out of his way and i had no reason not to i would jump!

It was rather touching to see steroidal Capitol police dragging grannies off to the wagons on Youtube.
Makes one proud to be a taxpayer when justice and the suppression of the Constitution is carried out like this.

When you spend a lot of time protesting in DC you get to know the cops. You also better know the laws you are breaking. You will be arrested if you break the law. That is one of the consequences of having the courage of your convictions.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 45:

xoites defends Constitution @ 41:

P.D. @ 38:

What the Hell? Almost no reporting of the flood which destroyed our farmland. California burning. Limpballs saying the people are SO MUCH better than then the Katina victims because they weren't begging for water. What an outrage! The flood victims were better prepared! New Orleans was slammed by a Catagory 5 Hurricane! What the Hell!

Welcome to news as show biz. It is not here to inform or advise; only to spin.

My son and I watched the movie: "Wrong is Right!", starring Sean Connery, today. I showed my son the absolute parallels between the movie and today's media and government.

Its called 'Man with the Deadly Lens' in the UK, rather good film.

If you like that then you will love 'Whoops Apocalypse' 1982 British TV satire series.

Bloomberg: "The dollar's 41 percent drop against the euro during Bush's term writes the economic epitaph of an administration that set out to restore American preeminence. Instead, Bush heads to Japan next week for his final international summit with diminished leverage as Russian and Chinese influence grows." The ultimate disgrace for a Republican: Bush wrecked the dollar. 7/4

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 59:

xoites defends Constitution @ 56:

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 46:

xoites defends Constitution @ 37:

It was rather touching to see steroidal Capitol police dragging grannies off to the wagons on Youtube.
Makes one proud to be a taxpayer when justice and the suppression of the Constitution is carried out like this.

When you spend a lot of time protesting in DC you get to know the cops. You also better know the laws you are breaking. You will be arrested if you break the law. That is one of the consequences of having the courage of your convictions.

So what law is broken when somebody reads the Constitution in a public place ?
Is reading it silently illegal, or maybe loud enough that the squirrels can hear !

Give me the details and i can probably answer your question. I think i already know the answer.

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 59:

xoites defends Constitution @ 56:

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 46:

xoites defends Constitution @ 37:

It was rather touching to see steroidal Capitol police dragging grannies off to the wagons on Youtube.
Makes one proud to be a taxpayer when justice and the suppression of the Constitution is carried out like this.

When you spend a lot of time protesting in DC you get to know the cops. You also better know the laws you are breaking. You will be arrested if you break the law. That is one of the consequences of having the courage of your convictions.

So what law is broken when somebody reads the Constitution in a public place ?
Is reading it silently illegal, or maybe loud enough that the squirrels can hear !

How about loud enough a bug can hear and I don't mean insect.

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85827&videoChannel=1

last surge brigade out by end of july

xoites defends Constitution @ 61:

Ron @ 47:

Hey everybody, post this on every blog you visit this weekend.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-independence-2007.html

.

Ron, for you.

Fan f**kingtastic! Thanks Xiotes.

They have a law in DC called Unlawfull Entry. It comes in two parts. The first part deals with entering a property unlawfully. The second part is "Failure to Quit."

If a lawfull representative of a property in DC asks you to leave and you fail to leave they can arrest you for unlawfull entry. The maximum penalty is six months.

I know this because i have been arrested for thi four times at the White House between 1974 and 1990. The lawfull representatives in my case was the Secret Service. Of course what i was actually diong was protesting.

You are quite welcome, Ron. :)

Arrested For Reading The Constitution

Much to the chagrin of Neo-Con trolls who attempted to skew the events seen in the video by claiming the Code Pink group were heckling parents of slain U.S. soldiers, one of the five arrested was an Iraq veteran herself.

"Screw you, anonymous coward. I served my country honorably and proudly - and with my head, not my knees. Dissent is patriotic. If you want to work for a king, go flip burgers," retorted one individual in response to Neo-Cons who tried to justify the arrests on Internet messageboards.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 73:

xoites defends Constitution @ 70:

They have a law in DC called Unlawfull Entry. It comes in two parts. The first part deals with entering a property unlawfully. The second part is "Failure to Quit."

If a lawfull representative of a property in DC asks you to leave and you fail to leave they can arrest you for unlawfull entry. The maximum penalty is six months.

I know this because i have been arrested for thi four times at the White House between 1974 and 1990. The lawfull representatives in my case was the Secret Service. Of course what i was actually diong was protesting.

did your lawyer explain why that particular law was chosen for charging you? I am sure other laws were available, depending on the number of people involved.

This what happens to every protester who goes through the tour and sits down or stands on the lawn to pray or read a statement. Also if you climb the fence to protest. Six months is a long time and not enough to get parrol, so if you end up getting that sentence you do it all.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains,
jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier.

the centuries roll on, nothing changes.

Sorry, i meant parole.

xoites defends Constitution @ 80:

Sorry, i meant parole.

remind me next time to be more nitpicky.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 79:

xoites defends Constitution @ 76:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 73:

xoites defends Constitution @ 70: did your lawyer explain why that particular law was chosen for charging you? I am sure other laws were available, depending on the number of people involved.

This what happens to every protester who goes through the tour and sits down or stands on the lawn to pray or read a statement. Also if you climb the fence to protest. Six months is a long time and not enough to get parrol, so if you end up getting that sentence you do it all.

that's why it's the charge du jour.

Well it is the standard charge. It is the harshest thing they can throw at you. My secret is to plead guilty. I have never been sentenced to an hour of jail time.

Ron @ 83:

Xiotes, it is anniversary time isn't it. We 1st started communicating a little over a year ago.

happy annibloggerversary.
do you two need a moment alone?

xoites defends Constitution @ 84:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 79:

xoites defends Constitution @ 76:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 73:

This what happens to every protester who goes through the tour and sits down or stands on the lawn to pray or read a statement. Also if you climb the fence to protest. Six months is a long time and not enough to get parrol, so if you end up getting that sentence you do it all.

that's why it's the charge du jour.

Well it is the standard charge. It is the harshest thing they can throw at you. My secret is to plead guilty. I have never been sentenced to an hour of jail time.

so they allow plea bargain or is the judge simply not a hard-ass?

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 86:

Ron @ 83:

Xiotes, it is anniversary time isn't it. We 1st started communicating a little over a year ago.

happy annibloggerversary.
do you two need a moment alone?

No, carry on. No presents except in cash.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 86:

Ron @ 83:

Xiotes, it is anniversary time isn't it. We 1st started communicating a little over a year ago.

happy annibloggerversary.
do you two need a moment alone?

gets like a Yahoo chatroom in here sometimes ;)

ferrofluid (Obama 08) @ 75:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 69:

karl @ 66:

http://www.reuters.com/news/video?videoId=85827&videoChannel=1

last surge brigade out by end of july

kind of a crock since they are being re-deployed to Afghanistan.

Did you see the 'news' today, US units in Afghanistan are getting a 4th July pressie, longer tours of duty.

AFGHANISTAN
Coalition Military Fatalities By Year
Year US Other Total
2008 67 57 124 <----- ON PACE FOR RECORD YEAR
2007 117 115 232
2006 98 93 191
2005 99 31 130
2004 52 6 58
2003 48 9 57
2002 49 20 69
2001 12 0 12
Total 542 331 873

Fatalities By Country

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 88:

xoites defends Constitution @ 84:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 79:

xoites defends Constitution @ 76: that's why it's the charge du jour.

Well it is the standard charge. It is the harshest thing they can throw at you. My secret is to plead guilty. I have never been sentenced to an hour of jail time.

so they allow plea bargain or is the judge simply not a hard-ass?

I have been arrested about 30 times in DC for Civil Disobedience. I have attended the trials of hundreds of other people who have as well. A lot of people plead not guilty and try to get the reason they were protesting entered into evidence in their defence. This never works. And i mean NEVER! So why you were arrested is not allowed to be discussed. The facts of the case are introduced with the pictures and arrows and i have never met a blind judge in DC so those folks always are convicted.

However by now the judge is a little pissed off at them because of all the motions and attempts at statements that he considers besides the point.

However.

If you plead guilty as i always do the judge always asks me why? I get to explain myself, he understand and says have a nice day. In fact, in one case back in 1979 a judge told me that if i ended up in his courtroom for the same reason he would throw the case out of court.

WSJ: Allies of Sen. John McCain have found new loopholes in the campaign-finance law he helped write -- and they're using them to reel in huge contributions to help him compete with Sen. Barack Obama.

Kathy @ 6:

My politician money is now going straight to anti-FISA pols. Not a dime to Obama. Whether he wins or not, we need more and better Congresspeople. I expect Obama will get plenty of cash of the telecoms.

you go girl they cant shut us up forever! ptttttth

swampfox @ 100:

Kathy @ 6:

My politician money is now going straight to anti-FISA pols. Not a dime to Obama. Whether he wins or not, we need more and better Congresspeople. I expect Obama will get plenty of cash of the telecoms.

you go girl they cant shut us up forever! ptttttth

They sure as hell are trying though, aren't thry?

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 101:

xoites defends Constitution @ 96:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 88:

xoites defends Constitution @ 84:
so they allow plea bargain or is the judge simply not a hard-ass?

I have been arrested about 30 times in DC for Civil Disobedience. I have attended the trials of hundreds of other people who have as well. A lot of people plead not guilty and try to get the reason they were protesting entered into evidence in their defence. This never works. And i mean NEVER! So why you were arrested is not allowed to be discussed. The facts of the case are introduced with the pictures and arrows and i have never met a blind judge in DC so those folks always are convicted.

However by now the judge is a little pissed off at them because of all the motions and attempts at statements that he considers besides the point.

However.

If you plead guilty as i always do the judge always asks me why? I get to explain myself, he understand and says have a nice day. In fact, in one case back in 1979 a judge told me that if i ended up in his courtroom for the same reason he would throw the case out of court.

Me once arrested. Since there were a bunch of us the judge knew what it was all about - case after case. On the promise of never doing it again, the general case was suspended. if any of us showed up in front of him again, he said he'd look 'harshly' on it. there was great latitude in the sentencing rules., but i think the most egregious case would have netted 30 days and would have to have involved a physical resistance to the police, which did not happen.

Most people think that this is not a police state. I beg to differ.

karl @ 103:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/03/washington/03fisa.html

this judge says the president can't trump the constitution....x check it out.......

Yes. I wrote about that at about 2AM.

xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

What they usually do in court with protesters is try to intimidate the shit out of them. The judge and the prosecutor knows they are not criminals. They just want to stop them from protesting. They often put conditions on things such as promises to not be rearrested. I was in a courtroom with Dick Gregory. When the judge told him he would be given probation if he promised not to get arrested for the next six months, Dick Gregory said, "How can I promise that? Your Honor, I am black!"

By the way. Dick Gregory stood his ground and refused to promise. The judge gave him probation anyway.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080702/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/mexico_police_torture

private u.s. security co. teaching torture down in mexico

xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

What they usually do in court with protesters is try to intimidate the shit out of them. The judge and the prosecutor knows they are not criminals. They just want to stop them from protesting. They often put conditions on things such as promises to not be rearrested. I was in a courtroom with Dick Gregory. When the judge told him he would be given probation if he promised not to get arrested for the next six months, Dick Gregory said, "How can I promise that? Your Honor, I am black!"

A supreme wit, brilliant man. I met him once on a campus visit and it was like talking to a very wise and caring father. the experience was compelling. the depth of it set in later. the humility, righteousness and brilliance should be experienced firsthand.

Oops. Fat Tire.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 112:

xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

What they usually do in court with protesters is try to intimidate the shit out of them. The judge and the prosecutor knows they are not criminals. They just want to stop them from protesting. They often put conditions on things such as promises to not be rearrested. I was in a courtroom with Dick Gregory. When the judge told him he would be given probation if he promised not to get arrested for the next six months, Dick Gregory said, "How can I promise that? Your Honor, I am black!"

A supreme wit, brilliant man. I met him once on a campus visit and it was like talking to a very wise and caring father. the experience was compelling. the depth of it set in later. the humility, righteousness and brilliance should be experienced firsthand.

I had the honor of being arrested with him. It was the friendliest group of "ordinary" criminals that night i ever had the pleasure to serve with. :)

calgarylady @ 117:

Why thank you, Ron, xoites, and CIP. Ron, I've just been keeping a low profile. I did do some serious partying earlier in the week with our little national holiday, however! One must be patriotic, you know.

Ah, nothing like a brewsky on a hot night. Hey, it's almost the Fourth of July. Party time !

I wish i had a black arm band. I would wear one all day if i did.

Ron @ 119:

calgarylady @ 117:

Why thank you, Ron, xoites, and CIP. Ron, I've just been keeping a low profile. I did do some serious partying earlier in the week with our little national holiday, however! One must be patriotic, you know.

Ah, nothing like a brewsky on a hot night. Hey, it's almost the Fourth of July. Party time !

We can't go visit our famlies across the state because of the price of gas. Never happened before in my life.

That really sucks!

xoites defends Constitution @ 116:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 112:

xoites defends Constitution @ 105:

What they usually do in court with protesters is try to intimidate the shit out of them. The judge and the prosecutor knows they are not criminals. They just want to stop them from protesting. They often put conditions on things such as promises to not be rearrested. I was in a courtroom with Dick Gregory. When the judge told him he would be given probation if he promised not to get arrested for the next six months, Dick Gregory said, "How can I promise that? Your Honor, I am black!"

A supreme wit, brilliant man. I met him once on a campus visit and it was like talking to a very wise and caring father. the experience was compelling. the depth of it set in later. the humility, righteousness and brilliance should be experienced firsthand.

I had the honor of being arrested with him. It was the friendliest group of "ordinary" criminals that night i ever had the pleasure to serve with. :)

congratulations, now wipe off that beer mustache.

LibertyLover @ 121:

I want to wish all my fellow DFH's and even you lurking Conservatives out there a very happy 4th of July. One thing that I think that we can agree on is that even with all of it's faults that we still live in an awesome country and even if we don't agree, then at least we have the freedom ( for now, anyway ) to continue to say so.

And I'd like to say Thank you so much to the very wise men of Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, et al who took the steps they did to begin a very grand experiment. Mr. Franklin, we are doing oh so very much to try to keep it...

Democracy is a 24/7 thing. Keep he faith, baby.

Peace.

Keep passing this along.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 122:

xoites defends Constitution @ 116:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 112:

xoites defends Constitution @ 105: A supreme wit, brilliant man. I met him once on a campus visit and it was like talking to a very wise and caring father. the experience was compelling. the depth of it set in later. the humility, righteousness and brilliance should be experienced firsthand.

I had the honor of being arrested with him. It was the friendliest group of "ordinary" criminals that night i ever had the pleasure to serve with. :)

congratulations, now wipe off that beer mustache.

I will have you know that i am not into alcohol abuse!

I am a very tidy drinker.

Media's blind ambition feeds public's hunger -- and we all get sick
July 3, 2008
By Gregg Doyel
CBSSports.com National Columnist

Somebody's to blame for this crap, and as soon as I figure out who that is, I'll be all over them. That's a promise.

Until then, I'll do the same thing everyone else seems to be doing: I'll read about Madonna and New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez. But I'll dislike myself for it. And I'll wonder what the hell happened to the media I used to love.

even in sports, the media sux

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 128:

Media's blind ambition feeds public's hunger -- and we all get sick
July 3, 2008
By Gregg Doyel
CBSSports.com National Columnist

Somebody's to blame for this crap, and as soon as I figure out who that is, I'll be all over them. That's a promise.

Until then, I'll do the same thing everyone else seems to be doing: I'll read about Madonna and New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez. But I'll dislike myself for it. And I'll wonder what the hell happened to the media I used to love.

even in sports, the media sux

Geeze, Cointelpro. You are asking me to read an article saying i should not be paying attention to something i am already not only not paying attention to, i was not even aware of it. Celebrity crap really annoys me.

WIMBLEDON, England -- The inevitable became the actual. The match that seemed destined is the match that will be played. Venus Williams against sister Serena in the Wimbledon final. They're elated.

It's tremendous! These two are something when they are on their games. saturday morning, I will be enjoying breakfast at wimbeldon with my son. amazing!

calgarylady @ 129:

xoites, I feel silly asking this, but what do you mean by black arm band ? ps, Happy Fourth of July, officially.

Please don't ever feel silly asking me a question. The only silly questions, the only stupid questions are those left unasked.

A black arm band is a sign of mourning in some cultures (just try finding one in America).

I think that the Declaration of Independence is dead as is the Constitution. I could be wrong, but that is how i feel.

Wearing a black arm band on the Fourth of July would seem very appropriate to me.

xoites defends Constitution @ 134:

calgarylady @ 129:

xoites, I feel silly asking this, but what do you mean by black arm band ? ps, Happy Fourth of July, officially.

Please don't ever feel silly asking me a question. The only silly questions, the only stupid questions are those left unasked.

A black arm band is a sign of mourning in some cultures (just try finding one in America).

I think that the Declaration of Independence is dead as is the Constitution. I could be wrong, but that is how i feel.

Wearing a black arm band on the Fourth of July would seem very appropriate to me.

As X knows, I revised it.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-declaration-of-indep...

http://www.thestreet.com/s/youll-pay-if-you-give-up-us-citizenship/newsa...

if you give up your u.s.citizenship.....it's going to cost you

xoites defends Constitution @ 137:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 135:

bateman @ 131:

If Richard Pryor were still with us, he'd be with us.
Funniest motherfucker ever.

Celebrate Independence Day, use your 1st amendment rights.

he and carlin. both could make you laugh, think and feel. imho

If those two had ever gotten together and did a collaborative act they would have made it illegal. It would have brought down the government.

I'd pay a lot of depleted american dollars to have seen that.

xoites defends Constitution @ 139:

karl @ 138:

http://www.thestreet.com/s/youll-pay-if-you-give-up-us-citizenship/newsanalysis/financial-advisor-forum/10423687.html?puc=_htmlbtb

if you give up your u.s.citizenship.....it's going to cost you

I had a friend who renounced his Citizenship in protest to the Vietnam War. He also refuses to pay taxes. This should make his life interesting.

it's like a bill for divorcing america.

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 142:

xoites defends Constitution @ 139:

karl @ 138:

http://www.thestreet.com/s/youll-pay-if-you-give-up-us-citizenship/newsanalysis/financial-advisor-forum/10423687.html?puc=_htmlbtb

if you give up your u.s.citizenship.....it's going to cost you

I had a friend who renounced his Citizenship in protest to the Vietnam War. He also refuses to pay taxes. This should make his life interesting.

it's like a bill for divorcing america.

Can't you just get a separation?

Ron @ 144:

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 142:

xoites defends Constitution @ 139:

karl @ 138:

I had a friend who renounced his Citizenship in protest to the Vietnam War. He also refuses to pay taxes. This should make his life interesting.

it's like a bill for divorcing america.

Can't you just get a separation?

If you have a passport. How long do you have to wait to get one?

Goodnight, Cointelpro. Be well. :)

CoIntelPro for Pronktastic Democratic Party Victory Over SCLM and DIEBOLD! @ 142:

xoites defends Constitution @ 139:

karl @ 138:

http://www.thestreet.com/s/youll-pay-if-you-give-up-us-citizenship/newsanalysis/financial-advisor-forum/10423687.html?puc=_htmlbtb

if you give up your u.s.citizenship.....it's going to cost you

I had a friend who renounced his Citizenship in protest to the Vietnam War. He also refuses to pay taxes. This should make his life interesting.

it's like a bill for divorcing america.

You know what is interesting is that the US Government tries to force people with dual citizenships to renounce one of their citizenships. It's a total violation of international law; but, the US Government tries nonetheless. They send threatening letters and most people just throw them in the trash. The US Government also tries to do some weird thing where you have to have a permission note from your kids other parent to leave the country on vacation. Under international Law a valid passport is all your kid is supposed to need. The US Government also tries to make the airlines report it when Americans travel from one overseas country to another. It really does suck to be a US citizen and travel abroad. Anybody from any other nation doesn't have to worry about their government harassing them overseas.