November 27, 2009 07:45 PM
Calling Fox News Quality Control: Pie Charts Are Supposed to Add Up to One Hundred
As TPM reported earlier this week, FOX News management has said heads would roll for on-screen "errors" like running the cover of "Going Rouge" instead of the cover of "Going Rogue" in their programming.
So what quality control agent is doing their pie charts? They add up to 193%, dude. And Sandy points out that 70% of Republicans suffer from BACK PALIN: a pre-existing condition for sure.
That pie chart looks like something out of THE PRODUCERS, where literally hundreds of old ladies each owned at least 25% of "Springtime for Hitler"...
is that what it was all about!
i did not know that - i never could figure any of it out...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Bill O'Reilly is wearing a CARDBOARD BELT! And he needs some money to go out and buy a toy.
Maybe the extra 93% represents the percentage of the ballots they plan to stuff in order to "fix" the election ... 'cuz that's the only way the opportunistic media whore is gonna get elected
Who cares this is OLD OLD OLD news about the Noise net work. look these clowns will come up with some BS that says they aren't responsible because they are a entertainment nit wit net work, that takes pride in fact distortion, brsides when you are working against the American Interest who the Hell cares
193%...It's like giving 110% plus 83% more.
is intended to be a factual statement
It's like double plus good or something! LOL!
50 + 143 is a clear majority.
(any random numbers work this formula, as long as it's GOP)
far left loon >.<
and their viewing audience numbers in the 100 Millions........It's that "special" math that Fox always uses to prove how great they are!!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
These nitwits are too stupid to care or be embarrassed.
Beck will spend a whole show explaining how the chart is right.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
The name of the source is wrong -- the polling firm is "Opinion Dynamics," not "Opinions Dynamics." Quality journalism a la the Fox kits!
So thassawhy I did no get any mincemeat yestereve!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Mmmmm mincemeat (with real whipped cream)
far left loon >.<
http://www.soundstagedirect.com/media/herb_al...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Looks like the Cons are making a HUGE comeback!
I knew Palin would enegize the whack-o's but 193% beats my expectations - more than I could ever dream.
They already have WAY more than they need for any election.
WOO HOO!
If 193% doesn't beat Obama then the whole thing is obviously rigged.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Damn Fox. Always wanting a bigger piece of the pie.
Mmmmmmm pie
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
What did I say?
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
My guess is hair pie.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Everybody knows these are the uneducated, Reslug flunk outs, that can only find work at bottom of the barrel, Faux Noise lies.
Are their ratings analyzed on the same computer?
Fox, try a scatter graph and they'll all come flocking.
I thought you put flocking on X-mas trees?
Little too early for that if you ask me.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
you do put flocking on X-file trees.
The flocking is out there..
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
Palin wants to hire the person who was able to fit 193% in a 100% lie . . . er . . . um PIE chart!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
That's Rove's special math.
This is a really sh*tty formatted graphic. Obviouslty done by some dimwit in the "news" dept with no oversight.
To be unfair and imbalanced The pie chart has two sides - front and back - they just didn't show the back part which is the same anyway so why bother.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Graphically speaking, shouldn't any of those numbers show a slice larger than half? I mean, any grade school child could tell you what a effed up graphic this is, and yet it makes air?
this is ridiculous.
All the born again christians got asked twice.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
It still only adds up to 96.5%.
Close, but no cigar.
:)
Oh see? There you go, using REAL math!
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
Maybe they were counting all the dead people.
Dick Cheney: "Deficits don't matter."
Roger Ailes: "Pie charts make me hungry"
Dick Cheney: "Deficits don't matter."
only provided you burn your bridges
Remember, this is Liz Chaney's Dick talking, not a noble statesman or something.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Daffy Duck say
fiscal conservative without spitting?
Roger Ailes: "Pie charts make me hungry"
and rich beyond his wildest dreams.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Haven't you seen Diebold math before?
I'm just astounded that those three are considered the front-runners of the GOP. Talk about pathetic!
"It's like that I know. But things can change tomorrow."
Fox is going "zero tolerance" for on-air production mistakes, I feel it is our duty to make sure EVERY time they do this, it gets widespread coverage. So they'll be no one working there...if of course, they're not LYING about said policy. Now they'd NEVER do that, would they?
In small print:
Said policy does not include labelling corrupt Repubs as Dems.
look out, they'll blame it on saboteurs. Only because it's available - no other reason, like all the other accusations.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
We've just seen a pie chart add up to 193%. Who knows how much Fox thinks zero is?
It's Willie Wonka math:
Willie Wonka: [making a mysterious formula] Invention, my dear friends, is 93% perspiration, 6% electricity, 4% evaporation, and 2% butterscotch ripple.
Mrs. Teevee: [as Mr. Wonka drinks the formula] That's 105%!
Even the space shuttle Challenger could only do 104% at throttle up!
was doing 18 times the speed of light when it blew.
To be fair, this was on CNN.
with the heatshields ...you could bake a pie in ...well ...pretty fast ....
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That your pie would be baked before it was made.
Take that, causality!
Good thing CNN is not our information station since that day Wolf Blitzer ran after a toy balloon for an entire afternoon without telling anyone the balloon was too small to possibly carry away the boy. I remember that well because it was also a busy news day.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
some crazy thing about the price of a postage stamp last week I think ...CNN Fonzied a long time ago ...
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I've done more than that riding my 110cc Honda Cub postie bike.
"Any pie shaped or related pastry-based desert type representation displayed between the hours of 10:00 and 4:00 and 8:00 and 23:00 pm Eastern time, is an EDITORIAL REPRESENTATION of reality and therefore not subject to scrutiny with respect to actual news or factual claims given or implied."
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To use a disclaimer as factual claim.
They'll never notice.
http://www.dannemann.org.uk/images/morans.jpg
"So what quality control agent is doing their pie charts? They add up to 193%, dude."
A LONG time ago, there was a lot of uproar over something called the "New Math" I can't help but wonder if that is how the bozoss at Fox learned their arithmetic.
and they can't count either.
a WAR on PIE! ...
what kind of pie? ... APPLE PIE!
...Communist Nazis hated pie!
Libruls hate America!
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It's time for your pill.
Haldol 20 mg with a Thorazine chaser.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
If I move the letters for libruls around, it always starts with slur.
hiring accountants ... mmmm
I have a feeling someone could slide in and snow those Faux-Turds
for a few $$$ ...
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It's almost a Palindrone: Slur Bil
higher expectations... I mean the IS FuxNoise we're talking about!
Some stuff you can't make up!
The way Obama and the Democratic congress is going the Dems only hope in 2012 will be if Palin gets the GOP nomination.
Huckabee, Romney, heck anybody else will just smoke Barack and those worthless dems!
lol
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
I think you missed the point. Sure if you want to substitute those names as well go ahead.
At 193% - that'd be a winner no matter what or whom.
Unless - Obama can get 194% then . . .
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8...
and
http://www.sefermpost.com/sefermpost/2009/11/...
Some stuff you can't make up!
or fix your 'automated' enforcement measures. that is IF you can find what was deleted. that was stupid.
[It was "sefermpost", though I don't know exactly why it was in there. I could guess, but it would be just that- a guess. I removed the word from the filter, so link away. Site Monitor]
Some stuff you can't make up!
Pies used to be a source of hope and inspiration.
They could only be limited by your imagination.
Who could ever forget that profound rallying cry when things seemed darkest:
Make The Pie Higher!
Those are pretty big boots to fill and Fox is just taking it to the next dimension.
Phantom Districts anyone?
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/jobs-saved-cre...
Though we all know FoxNews is disreputable and really don't need more proof for that, i think this might be a screencap from a local news program not Foxnews. It simply says "FOX", not "Foxnews" in the lower left...and there is a temperature, a la local newscasts.
So maybe when we try to criticize foxnews, we should get it right?
i always seem to get it left.
sitting up in a spaceship
looking down at the earth
you wonder what they are struggling for
what's it all really worth
making tomorrow today
making tomorrow today
make tomorrow
make tomorrow
Reporting on the latest Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll last night on Fox News’ local Chicago affiliate, anchor Byron Harlan employed some funny math in asserting that Sarah Palin is leading the pack for the GOP nomination in 2012:
HARLAN: It looks as if the rogue route is helping Sarah Palin. Her book tour has meant new support. A new Opinion Dynamics poll for 2012 shows her on top when it comes to landing the nomination. Palin is at 70 percent, about a third higher than this past July. Mike Huckabee stands at 63 percent. Mitt Romney’s 60.
Those figures add up to 193 percent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rbyhj8uTT8
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Video of Fox 10 - Fox News affiliate. And referencing their "Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll.
FWIW
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Bluegal, thanks for getting "supposed to" right (pet peeve of mine). It makes the C&L look more professional!!!
Here is a great, simple, reference site for all those pesky little mistakes we all, sometimes, make. I often check it, and have it bookmarked.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/errors.html...
far left loon >.<
didnt make the list ...?
thats teh worst one of all ...
irregardless ...
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You can send him an email. I thank him for taking the time to post was he has.
I checked a few others, like, "suffice it to say," but it wasn't there either. Still, he noted some useful ones!
far left loon >.<
it was just an obvious one that I would have expected to see ..
I work at a Lib. reference desk with undergrads so I will use his list ... its great!
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Didn't take your comment as being critical. There are all kinds of great reference materials on the net. The Blue Book of Grammar (site) is also very useful and usable. (I wasn't taught these things in school.)
far left loon >.<
mmmmmmm...pie.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwirWWnzJKM&fe...
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
I worked in a high-pressure graphics/publishing staff in NYC for a while. Given the current atmosphere about "mistakes" at Fox, I'm sure they'll bag the production worker and give a pass to the responsible higher ups.
This must be is an unintentional mistake, unlike their previous errors which seemed like they were more driven by the network's bias than the result of human error. Putting a "D" upon the latest Repub mired in scandal in those cases would just be chalked up as a happy accident, and perhaps even encouraged.
This time it's easier to point the finger at the worker, whereas in those other instances the gaffes were simply a careless result of implementing their agenda.
really freaked them out ... seems like time
to flood the market with bogus Onion-style news items and fake graphics, run em up the flagpole and see how many of Rupert's flying monkeys salute ...
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I'll bet "going rouge" had them going red. ;)
far left loon >.<
cash cow at the moment ... (or ...cow-moose maybe ..?)
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OOPS! At Fox, we are fucking retarded
It would appear that Bill-O's war on Christmas is to be pre-empted by the war on math (or is it the war on pie?).
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
The Fox fact checkers HAVE done their homework. In the original survey, another 68% backed Ronald Reagan. This figure was removed after the fact checker pointed out there was a small problem with it...
...Ronald Reagan had already served two terms and was therefore ineligible.
WE need a bowling alley for FOX heads to roll down.
They have not even reported on Sarah Palin being Sunflower Leibowitz.
When that story hits, bowling is going o be a growth sport.
Even though the President got 56% of the popular vote, Grandpa and the dumb dangerous bitch actually received 67%.
That horrible Negro stole the election.
yes, had to have stolen the election, but only because that's what the Republicans themselves would have done.
All republicans steal elections because a few democrats might. It's insurance against someone else doing it first.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Faux Fact Checkers.......hahahaha, pushing the envelope of reality so you won't have to!
Can we assume that Faux loves Palin and loathes Romney?
Can we assume that there are no undecideds in the Repug party?......yeah, that one can pass the stench test.
Can we assume that there are no "none of the above" in the party? Whaaaaat? what happened to the tea baggers? I thought that they were so fed up with gooovernment?
'Talk to the hand'
the repubs dont know it but they are advocating darwinism survival of the fittest mentality and materialism and of course individualism.
and most brag about their christian beliefs without realizing it they are anything but christian.
glen beck last night was going on and on and on about the wonderful aspects of individualism.
what bible is he reading?
christianity in america died on the cross as this country is anything but christian. the health insurance debate exposes americans for what they really are.
selfish self righteousness arrogant materialistic war mongers imperialists the list is long.
the best part my generation was taught to fear the communists and even call them evil now who is keeping our failed capitalism afloat? communists. :-)
the new dumbed downed generation is taught to fear the socialists.
this fear is brillant as it works to keep the capitalists enhancing their wealth. reagan was a genius as he hated the middle class and the unions.
both are being eliminated to create a society of haves and have nots. mostly have nots.
had lunch with a friend today and his company is working him 16 to 20 hrs per day seven days a week and if he does not do the work he is replaced by a person from india on a work visa.
his boss is on a work visa and if he fails he fears being sent back.
americans love affair with capitalism is making most of them lower class.and to think most lined up to vote for reagan economics.
oh the price of corp greed.
oh this company tried to get the french to work those kind of hours and the french went on strike and locked the plant manger in his office for three weeks.
and we make fun of the french while we race towards third world status.
dutch was a genius created by ge.
graduates of Beck's University-of-I-Don't-Remember-the-Name . . .
Real Americans don't need that stuff.
But hypothetically, isn't it possible for the chart to be accurate if the question was something like "Choose 1 to 3 candidates you back"?
It would still be pointless but technically accurate, no?
The pie chart is wrong. The end.
far left loon >.<
Edwin is right: If they just showed the numbers they could explain it, but pie charts have to add up. Some graphics person is stupid, some producer was stupid, of course the talking heads are stupid.
But then their audience is stupid so it doesn't matter.
"The pie chart is wrong. The end."
There's a possibility the pie is still somewhat accurate, if the names were considered for both positions on the top of the ticket.
However, that would come from sloppy wording of the initial question, and even then seem to require a separate pie.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I think national polls show palin at 12% or less, and for right now huckabee on top as it should be, when according to them the man should always be on top.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Here's who sarah palin reminds me of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6868F53rgKw
(He's my mentor too).
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
The question probably asked something like "Would you support (insert name here) as the Republican candidate?". In a case like that, you can easily get a total over 100%. After all, you might prefer Palin but would be okay with Huckabee as well.
The problem is that data like that should be shown on a bar chart (or equivalent).
looks like the GOP is getting in touch with their Stuart Smalley side. I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it people like me!
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
More and more Teabaggers are claiming they're the MAJORITY. Now I see why. They get to add funny,
Apparently, they're still using the same math that got Bush elected in 2000.
...is that on Planet Wingnuttia, 100% = 193%; 2 + 2 = 5, 10 - 7 = 8; down is up and up is down; and the color of the sky is whatever we tell you it is!
You 'libruls' wouldn't understand.........
Yeah, but . . .
100% means "all", and you can't have more than all of a pie. That's why they call it a pie chart. And . . .
. . . I . . .
. . . i . . .
. . . you . . . you're not even listening. . . are you?
Wingnuttian: Rouge sky, dammit! It's Going Rouge!
I . . . I see . . . rouge sky . . . *sighs and walks away*
"Damn!, they really are making up their own reality over there at Fox."
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