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We wouldn't want anyone to overdo it (and we totally support recovery and sobriety for those who are practicing such). That said, Will Durst has the best of the drinking games:

The first time Barack H. Obama mentions bipartisanship, the last person to pretend to faint has to drink three shots of beer.

This open thread is for the speech (live-stream here) and the Republican "response," which is the main reason we do the drinking game first.

And if you're a totally sober sucker for punishment, there's an opportunity to publicly fact check FOX tonight. You guys deserve a round on the house.

Speech and follow-ups open thread below....

Live Streaming video of the SOTU

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ron's picture

but I don't want to go into coma tonight so I won't join the drinking game. I'll have a couple later.

mudshark's picture

I went and got stocked up just for this.
Health Care........2 shots of beer. Or, 2 big gulps.
Jobs..............2 big gulps of beer.
Friends on the Right. Pound a whole beer.
Bi Partisanship.. a beer the first time, then a beer everytime he says that.
Terrrrrrr . Now we're talking Booze. 1 shot the first time doubles every other time. After 6. Triples.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Liberalicious's picture

need them.

mudshark's picture

I want to see the whole thing. But, I know I'll need a break from time to time.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

ron's picture

drinking that much always make me go in and out of the bathroom too.

Liberalicious's picture
TMI

Thank you for sharing.

;)

Liberalicious's picture

but I'm going to wait for the summary here.....I'd rather not see it through the Corporate media's filter...and even just a straight video feed of it would probably depress me. So I'll just amuse myself for now.

bushputz's picture

...you should invest in one of these...

http://www.stadiumpal.com/

Liberalicious's picture

Far TMI.

;)

jhunter99844's picture

He said "clean coal" and offshore drilling. Fuck that!

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

and new nuke plants. WTF?

Truth_Critic's picture

Study the symptoms not the virus...

ron's picture

we tried the bi-partisan approach and they said no, so we will move ahead without them.

Mike V.'s picture

it's clear that the Republicans truly hate America based on when they sit on their hands.

AngryGus's picture

....OUR Union is NOT strong!


Cue the Kabuki....

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

I thought bush was dense.

this is supposed to be a refreshingly intelligent sumbeyotch. fucking amazzingly dense. I'd like to see the nielsen ratings on that speech. maybe no one listened. that would be welcome as an announcement.


Some stuff you can't make up!

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

what a piece of schitt.

I did not listen to the fucking speech. not one syllable.

did anyone follow the dlc bullshit? I would have broken my set!


Some stuff you can't make up!

Truth_Critic's picture

The judicial branch gets favoritism?

Amended: Where is Chomsky?


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Evet's picture

..

Edwin's picture

For the speech, the drinking game, or a one/two combo?


far left loon >.<

Candideinnc's picture

I like Keith and his show, but like the rest of the MSM, he is talking about the wrong thing. He and his talking heads are worried about popularity. Is the president popular? Is the Democratic Party popular? They wonder about whether the American people are happy with congress, the thugs or the Democrats. They argue about whether there is too much partisanship.

I don't give a damn, nor do most Americans, about ANY of that. The question that is important is, are the Democrats succeeding ing getting stuff done. And the answer for me and most of the middle class is a big fat NO! I don't care about the 2010 elections at this point. I don't care about Massachusetts. I care about health care and jobs and Medicare, and the rest of it be damned. Ask the American people this question. Which is more important to you: that the president be popular or that he achieve his political agenda? THAT is a question the polsters need to ask.


Candideinnc

Sec_Humanist's picture

for soaring rhetoric, poetical turns of phrase, jingoistic pablum and more evidence that Obama is a corporatist shill. Watered down, neo-liberal "vaporware".


"Secular humanism -- a fearless, realistic world view replete with doubt and scepticism that attempts to attain an unachievable state of equilibrium between and among the human qualities of reason, intuition, imagination, memory, ethics and common sense.

sixandseveneights's picture

FOX has already made a "mistake" by calling a black man Eric Cantor.

sixandseveneights's picture

from an empty suit.

"Hope and Change" is the greatest marketing scam ever perpetrated upon the American people.

I think that supports one of the greatest selling book(s) of all time, at least it sounds similar in theory...


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Liberalicious's picture

Don't we all "hope" that he'll "change"?

Seems accurate to me.

Anais's picture

That was G.W. Bush. He reformed NOTHING and got NO results, except driving this country into two wars and the worst debt and deficits in our nation's history.

Milquetoast's picture

...got reamed by congress today...

...Rep. Mica called him "lame"

(watch turbo timmy get mad)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcSRCXW-79A&fe...


audit-prosecute-incarcerate

Edwin's picture

Great. Me likey.


far left loon >.<

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

they went through this act before.


Some stuff you can't make up!

Truth_Critic's picture

If the Dem's hold the Senate, but Reid loses his election, who takes his seat... Anyone know?


Study the symptoms not the virus...

mudshark's picture

But Feingold would be a good fit. Boxer would be a good fit as well.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Candideinnc's picture

His position is elected by his fellow Democrats.


Candideinnc

sixandseveneights's picture

Would vote for the most spineless amongst them. Feingold and Boxer wouldn't stand a chance.

Liberalicious's picture

that's it's Lieberman!

(ducks)....

Hechicera's picture

The Dems can't go wrong with a good old-fashioned New England moderate Republican.

Ummm.

(ducks too)

Truth_Critic's picture


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Ruffmama's picture

a glass of bubbly....

Ruffmama's picture

looks lovely. Her dress matches Joe's tie.

we see all nite. Hope my acid kicks in soon...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Ruffmama's picture

or his whiter than white teeth.

theWalrus's picture

R.I.P. Howard Zinn

From his last essay in The Nation, last week:

"I think people are dazzled by Obama's rhetoric, and that people ought to begin to understand that Obama is going to be a mediocre president – which means, in our time, a dangerous president – unless there is some national movement to push him in a better direction."

BigIslandDave's picture

Rest in peace, Howard, and thank you for telling the truth about this nation.

BID

BigDaddyMalcontent's picture

"If the gods had intended for people to vote, they would have given us candidates."

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

too few intelligent truthtellers.


Some stuff you can't make up!

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

prophetic


Some stuff you can't make up!

sixandseveneights's picture

Bam needs more sand kicked in face. He's no FDR.

Liberalicious's picture

Please...he needs a good hard swift kick right in the testicles, maybe twice.

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

DLC all the way. we're fucked because he's that fucked up.


Some stuff you can't make up!

AngryGus's picture

Bobble-head!


Cue the Kabuki....

sixandseveneights's picture

arrest that man!

Ruffmama's picture

like he wishes he were playing the drinking game.

Abbybwood's picture

?


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Truth_Critic's picture

BO motions with his hand like Timothy Geithner or vice versa.

Pointing finger/thumb


Study the symptoms not the virus...

"The only thing in the middle of the road is a yellow streak."

Sorry, author unknown to me.

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

I just heard him say: "work with congress".

he's denser than a fucking brick.


Some stuff you can't make up!

glogrrl's picture

roadkill.


“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”

sixandseveneights's picture

He must have had a different kind of bud back stage.

fastfeat's picture

Only about a minute long, but every second is precious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MRykTpw1RQ


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Milquetoast's picture

(loved that guy)


audit-prosecute-incarcerate

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

of truth

thanx


Some stuff you can't make up!

Geronimo.'s picture

Republicans suck.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

attack Obama.


Some stuff you can't make up!

Ruffmama's picture

he made a funny!

sixandseveneights's picture

Orangeman Boehner is oranger than usual. Somebody tell Linus I found the great pumpkin!

fastfeat's picture

GE has designed a special lamp for him.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

WVMJ's picture

LOL

WVMJ's picture

The Boehner great pumpkin pie in the face.
It's no disgrace.....

mudshark's picture

With all the tax cut talk.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Ruffmama's picture

Harry is sleepy

Truth_Critic's picture

?


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Mar Del Zur's picture

I'm tired of his speeches. It's been a year now. Do something that matters. Lead.

Quebec-observer's picture
Lol

One year in, with a plate full of the results of 8 years of deregulation gone wild, rampant imperial militarism and fearmongering; from the outside, Obama looks pretty good. He made sure the world economies wouldn't all collapse in the trail of the US subprime bubble bursting; he ratcheted down the macho posturing rhetoric; he's trying to mend fences and extend ties with other countries. He's not great, not the miracle the ads were promising, but considering the hand he was dealt to start with, he's not doing too poorly.

Liberalicious's picture

on THIS side of the border...

;)

Quebec-observer's picture

well, on the bright side, if I was beaten up by some angry freebaggers, my convalescence wouldn't cost me a dime :)

Hechicera's picture

they any relation to freeballers? I'd run.

mudshark's picture

And they don't look too happy about it.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Pete Seattle's picture

when he follows his pretty words with action.

sixandseveneights's picture

in the opposite direction.

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

he's forming his own commission. then he'll give the bill to Baucus.


Some stuff you can't make up!

mudshark's picture

In 2 more years. If he turns this around, would you vote for him again?


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Ruffmama's picture

nt

Pete Seattle's picture

considering he has done little to nothing to turn it around in the first year.

but sure, if he starts to keep some campaign promises:
FISA
DOMA
DADT
HCR (single payer or at least public option)
etc.
then I will vote for him again.

. we'll see.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

mudshark's picture

There goes 2 beers.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

mudshark's picture

I'll run out before 1/2 time


What is your conceptual, continuity?

stronger...

OK, sounding good again--BUT haven't we heard all this stuff like 15-18 mos ago????


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

WVMJ's picture

They are really getting a workout,with all that up and down and up and down.
If you're listening to your iPod clap your hands

Ruffmama's picture

trains!

WVMJ's picture

MAGLEV: From Natches to Mobile, From Memphis to St Joe, all aboard you're on the Chattanooga MAGLEV

WVMJ's picture

From Natches to Mobile, From Memphis to St Joe, all aboard you're on the Chattanooga MAGLEV

WVMJ's picture

Skip

Rich H's picture

sit on there hands when he offers tax cuts to the middle class, clap when he announces a jobs program, back on there hands when he says investing in community banks in order to lend to small business.

Damn man, they don't even know what they stand for. Or what they don't stand for.

Obama tossed 'em a herring...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Geronimo.'s picture

Thank God George Bush is Gone. Now prosecute them for their Crimes.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

BigIslandDave's picture

The union is NOT strong.

The Republicans don't want to work with you, Barry; they want to DESTROY you and the country.

An empty suit full of lofty rhetoric. It's getting harder and harder to watch and listen to him.

BID

One of our political motto's in here in Chicago is "to reward your friends, and punish your enemies." We have long memories here.

That is the only way Obama will get respect from Repukes and the arch-Democrats.

Neoatg's picture

But America wishes it was 2nd place. In most things were on the 2nd page of the list.

Truth_Critic's picture

Some people don't like that word.


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Geronimo.'s picture

Republicans love their oil corporations.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

Trantorian's picture

Where are Nancy's pom poms?


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

sixandseveneights's picture

I don't know about the other one.

Edwin's picture

They all look like sycophants.


far left loon >.<

mudshark's picture

I think he's telling it like it is.
Some people will have a bigger wish list. But that's all it is.
A wish list. I know people will hate this next comment.
But, He did inherit a disaster.
And to right that disaster, He has to do things that are, at the very least, unpopular.

I'm still willing to give him time.

Just imagine what we'd be talking about if that was McCain up there right now.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Ruffmama's picture

nt

Liberalicious's picture

We probably would not be ALLOWED to talk, as this site would have been shut down.

AngryGus's picture

Hope flavored beer?


Cue the Kabuki....

mudshark's picture
No.

I change from time to time.
I think he's telling it like it is.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

Pete Seattle's picture

that McCain would have been a much bigger disaster.
and I still know that I voted for the right person given the choices.
and you're right, he did inherit a huge disaster.

but my problem remains the various campaign promises he has done a 180 on.

sixandseveneights's picture

of the compromised and crooked global warming deniers.

MarkusR's picture

Regarding the comments on AGW?

project's picture

republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

sixandseveneights's picture

we get it :)

WVMJ's picture

Opticalrectitus. Head up your ass, resulting a shitty outlook.

Sticksman's picture

...the comment about the clean energy industry. No shiiiite. There's no reason NOT to do it...unless you're a coal or oil company.

scruzman's picture

bipartisanship. What was it again...4 shots of scotch?...be right back...

Abbybwood's picture

I wonder if when he finally gets around to the healthcare reform legislation if he'll bother to mention that CHINA will have a universal health care system by 2011 that will include everyone and that will cover dental/vision and mental health on top of other care???

http://www.prospect.org/csnc/blogs/ezraklein_...


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

sixandseveneights's picture

by Joe Biden's tie.

Rich H's picture

education - quit pretending you do!

Truth_Critic's picture

"To penetrate and dissipate these clouds of darkness, the
general mind must be strengthened by education."

[Thomas Jefferson]

Amended:

"If we have to give up either religion or education,
we should give up education."[William Jennings Bryan]


Study the symptoms not the virus...

Geronimo.'s picture

Prosecute those guilty of war crimes. End torture. End waterboarding. Ensure Human Rights and restore the Bill of Rights.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

.....but no matter how much he sells out to them, they will never, ever support him, and will undermine him at every turn....

Odds are Glenn Beck will compare this speech to a Hitler speech...

I hate to say it,but Obama should have been more like GW Bush, in ramming through legislation without giving a damn what the opposition party thought...

Barack Obama = Jimmy Carter

A well intentioned, but naive 1 term president...

BigIslandDave's picture

He's a one-termer -- barring a remarkable turnaround that I don't see happening.

BID

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

as any fucking corporatist.


Some stuff you can't make up!

sixandseveneights's picture

"Gimme the pearl onion"

mudshark's picture

That's a no brainer. It's amazing how the right hate the idea of an education. If you came from a lesser financially fortunate family.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

sixandseveneights's picture
Yea

notice how the Dems stood up and the Rethugs stay seated when he talked about Education

mudshark's picture

If their lives depended on it.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

sixandseveneights's picture

as they've proven.

pantherq's picture

CNN camera panned them.

Rich H's picture

the people sitting next to Lieberman, did they pull they short straw?

scruzman's picture

Dems put superglue on Rep seats beforehand.

Ruffmama's picture

more likely to be dems....and they can't stand and clap or Rush will cremate them tomorrow.

sixandseveneights's picture

will accuse them of cozying up to the Commmies.

Tom Servo's picture

hence the right wing contempt for intellectuals, and the right wing admiration for idiots like Joe the Plumber and Sarah Palin (for the simple fact they are stupid).....

sixandseveneights's picture

and spot on

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

anyone smart enough to figure them out.


Some stuff you can't make up!

Ruffmama's picture

health reform.....

MarkusR's picture

I want a black cape!

sixandseveneights's picture

"By the time I'm finished speaking tonight......Americans will be knocking slabs of bullshit off their shoes"

mudshark's picture

With the GOp. He's puttin it to them. He's making them look like obstructionist fools.


What is your conceptual, continuity?

sixandseveneights's picture

camera's on me.

Mitch McConnell.

Geronimo.'s picture

Legalize Hemp. Hemp Milk. Hemp Oil and Fuel. Help the Economy.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

People???

And he wants us to let him know what it is??

Okay. Extend Medicare to everyone.

There.


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Ruffmama's picture

"bring back Bush"?

Pete Seattle's picture

the hugs and sloppy kisses.

sixandseveneights's picture

at the Golden Globes.

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